An interesting tidbit in the Dutroux case.

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An interesting tidbit in the Dutroux case.

Postby drstrangelove » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:01 am

In the hours before they were kidnapped by Marc Dutroux, An Marchal and Eefje Lambrecks had attended the performance of a hypnotist named Rasti Rostelli.

"On the evening of the kidnapping, An and her girlfriend Eefje Lambrecks, who was also murdered by Dutroux, had attended a Rostelli hypnosis show in Blankenberge on the coast in August 1995. Father Marchal initially insisted on Rostelli coming as a witness, because he thought that the girls were still lured by Dutroux under the influence of hypnosis. He also bases this on statements made by friends of An and Eefje, who were on holiday with the girls on the Belgian coast at the time of the kidnapping. According to a friend, who testified in court in Arlon on Tuesday, An “was a tigress when attacked; she would never just go along with a type of Dutroux'. This strengthens Quirynen's conviction that the girls must have been confused or weakened by the hypnosis.

Other friends of the two girls, who had previously been hypnotized, also reported fatigue. An had scolded those friends because they had hitchhiked back from the hypnosis evening to their residence on the coast. 'An would never hitchhike herself', says a friend of the girls. Father Marchal concluded earlier that the show must have confused the girls so much that they just hitched a ride with Dutroux.

However, a Rostelli technical assistant, who was due to appear in court on Tuesday, said the shows "posed no danger whatsoever". The court psychiatrist Deberdt will testify later. He previously stated that participants in a hypnosis show usually return to full consciousness after ten minutes. The jury may also get to see recordings of the show in Blankenberge later.

Rostelli had put the two girls under hypnosis. Both were on stage in Blankenberge for almost two hours. The similarly hypnotized friends say it took them hours to fully recover from the hypnosis."

- https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achter ... ~ba4cce2c/ (google translation of)

A Dutch magazine article on Rasti Rostelli describes that performance(had been filmed).

"Eefje shrinks and remains lying on stage. An runs away screaming and has to be brought back by an assistant. He speaks to her a little later in his lingering, compelling voice: 'You are going to feel everything I do with this doll in your body.' Rostelli smiles his sadistic smile. He hammers the head of the rag doll with a hammer. He puts a stick between the buttocks and kisses the cloth lips. An puts two hands in front of her face and screams something unintelligible. Nobody laughs. He lets An sleep for the rest of the show.
He tells Eefje that she must seduce him. Giggling, she asks Rostelli, "Are you coming to the beach?" Nice and romantic.' Now the audience is laughing. After the show, the security video camera records how An and Eefje wander around the casino in a daze. An eats from an imaginary lemon. Eve rubs her eyes. The same night they probably fall into the hands of child rapist Marc Dutroux."

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"What he(Rostelli) is doing is simply irresponsible,' says Johan Vanderlinden of the Association for Autogenic Training and Hypnotherapy. "His methods always run the risk of resurfacing past trauma and people who have been hypnotized going home emotionally confused."
According to psychologist Piet Vroon, it is not yet really clear what happens in the brain during hypnosis. “One says it's pure role play, with the hypnotized playing along; others believe it goes further.' Vroon believes that hypnotists should at least study their professional literature carefully. Hypnosis as entertainment is playing with fire. It's just not clear what kind of fire is being played with."

- https://www.groene.nl/artikel/rasti-rostelli (google translation of)

Dutroux had induced similar conditions in the two girls rescued from his basement alive.

"The Belgian investigating judge who ordered Marc Dutroux's arrest in August 1996 described yesterday how two young girls hid from their rescuers and embraced their torturer when they were freed."

"When Dutroux escorted police to the specially-built cellar where Sabine and Laetitia were held, they "didn't want to come out" and tried to hide from their rescuers, Connerotte said. They thanked Dutroux. It was absolutely terrible. They kissed him. That shows how much he had conditioned them," he said."

- https://www.theage.com.au/world/girls-b ... dxfqp.html

As one of Dutroux's accomplices explained:

[One day] I asked him why they [An and Eefje] were still with him even though he claimed he had an order. He told me that the people who had placed the order had come, but that they weren't interested in them... Dutroux explained me that he conditioned the girls to be obedient and submissive when they arrived at customers...

- p. 72-73. Cites PV 100.223, August 19, 1996 and PV 100.241, August 22, 1996. via https://isgp-studies.com/belgian-x-doss ... -affair#28

Kind of bizarre given X1(Regina Louf) suffered from DID.

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Re: An interesting tidbit in the Dutroux case.

Postby Grizzly » Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:29 pm

Mostly to bump this thread, but... can also go into Maxwell or JE/ Wexner thread

https://bakedcat.org/george-b-tonks-leslie-wexner-survivor/


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Re: An interesting tidbit in the Dutroux case.

Postby 8bitagent » Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:00 am

If I recall, there were mass anti-governmet protests/riots in Belgium on the streets in the latter 1990s when all this Dutroux case elite abuse was being exposed. Here in America, the media always is quick to call any accusations of this sort of abuse "crackpot conspiracy right wing extremism", citing the 2016 Pizzagate and 2020 Qanon stuff. Yet, time and time again this stuff proves true. Look at 2015 and the "Elm House British MP" and "Jimmy Saville" elite abuse cases. The 80's/early 90's Franklin/Finders and later Belgium Dutroux case may have started it. But the Epstein/Maxwell case was the "red pill" that really opened people's eyes(weird having an elite case of trafficking, with no clients/johns listed) A hypnosis link to the Dutroux case isn't surprising. Across so many seemingly disparate cases, there's a direct link to US army "psy" research(Heaven's Gate to 9/11)
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Re: An interesting tidbit in the Dutroux case.

Postby drstrangelove » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:32 am

There's evidence both the Elm Guest House and Dutroux cases were linked to a blackmail network in Germany. In the next few days i'll post a thread with much more on this but here's a taste of what was being reported back then. Much like the 'Jeffrey Epstein Affair' the coverup always comes after the fact.

"The Ministry for State Security (MfS) of the GDR used child pornography to blackmail influential personalities in Western Europe. That explains the former liaison officer between the former Soviet secret service KGB and the MfS, Wanja Götz (code name "Grigori"), in an affidavit that the Berliner Morgenpost has received. "The blackmailed include politicians, judges and industrialists, some of whom still have influence in western democracies. After the fall of the wall, the former Stasi network turned the secret service into financial interests. Rainer Wolf, the father, played a key role of the still missing Berlin boy Manuel Schadwald", reports Götz, who lives in Berlin.

According to research by the Berliner Morgenpost, the Belgian child trafficker Marc Dutroux, arrested in August 1996 and accused of murdering several girls, also worked for the Stasi at times. "There were indeed indications that such information could be found in the Stasi material that was leaked to the American secret service, the CIA. The Belgian secret service would be well advised to evaluate these documents thoroughly," says Bernd, former intelligence coordinator of the Kohl government Schmidbauer (CDU). During the turning point, the CIA was able to secure extensive material about the espionage department of the MfS reconnaissance headquarters. Because of the explosive nature of the information contained therein, also about Western European politicians, these documents are still withheld from the public."

- https://www.morgenpost.de/printarchiv/t ... tiker.html

Note that the missing boy Manuel Schadwald was most likely killed in a snuff film by British pedophiles in Amsterdam. Germans blamed the Russians for the links back to Germany but i believe this had been the sausage making of the European Union because MI5 had been in on it as well.
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