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Postby ZeroHaven » Sun Aug 21, 2005 4:55 pm

thanks antaristo - apparently I've got <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/gravity_speed_030107.html" target="top">old news</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> in my head. The speed of gravity has not been conclusively measured.<br>Hardly surprising considering you can't just turn it on and off in a lab (yet).<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>RollickHopper - is the reverse just as true?--do "vibrations" from other sources influence our behavior?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br>That's astrology.. from my experience i'd say yeah it does.<br>That also touches upon how magnetic fields and all sorts of radiation influences the crap out of human brains and bodies. (maybe that's why u had to suddenly take a dump <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> )<br>If someone says they're 'all powerless' against their own self then u slap em good! That's just lazy and defeatist.<br><br>that Ligotti guy must've read the same thing I did ages ago. people's brains are wired to try and achieve happiness. if you were happy all the time you'd have no goals, no reason to continue, you'd just sit on your butt all day and be happy all the time. technically that'd be insane. <br><br>people who think like I do don't want to go to heaven. after like, a few hundred years of happiness and everything being wonderful, wouldn't you get freakin BORED? that's one way to explain why an 'omnipotent' or 'ominiscient' being would make this mess we call our world.. we're probably wonderful entertainment. Let's all go screw up and keep the god(s) happy! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br> <p><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a239/ZeroHaven/tinhat.gif"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--></p><i></i>
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Re: correction +

Postby slimmouse » Sun Aug 21, 2005 7:52 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>people who think like I do don't want to go to heaven. after like, a few hundred years of happiness and everything being wonderful, wouldn't you get freakin BORED?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> I guess that depends.<br><br> What if it felt like the first day of being in love for the rest of eternity, or that feeling of a sense of achievment, or the kind of feeling that brings tears of joy to the eyes.<br><br> You must know the one <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>I have often walked down this street before<br>But the pavement always stayed beneath my feet before<br>All at once am I several stories high<br>Knowing I'm on the street where you live</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br> i could easily handle an eternity of such emotion <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Perhaps this is where it gets interesting with regards to Bush and co. These guys with less advanced reptillian brain stems are probably the Spocks of the Universe, for whom emotion is limited.<br><br> Unlike the good Dr however, these dudes get their kicks, not from feelings of love, but those of dominance and control. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 8/21/05 6:07 pm<br></i>
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Re: correction +

Postby antiaristo » Sun Aug 21, 2005 8:43 pm

slim,<br>They don't need to be any different to the rest of us.<br>It's all in the training.<br>They send their children away to boarding school as soon as possible.<br>It's all in the training....by degrees. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: correction +

Postby slimmouse » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:38 am

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>They don't need to be any different to the rest of us.<br>It's all in the training.<br>They send their children away to boarding school as soon as possible.<br>It's all in the training....by degrees<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->. <br><br> For some reason, I just cant get out of my head Dianas comments about the Royals- as recorded in live interviews prior to the 'accident'.<br><br> Was she simply speaking metaphorically in suggesting that they werent human ? <p></p><i></i>
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Reptiles

Postby antiaristo » Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:44 pm

Slim,<br>The truth is that neither you nor I know the answer to that question.<br>But my point is that it is not necessary to appeal to the supernatural.<br>I can account for satanic behaviour by exposing human beings that imitate satan by using archaic secret powers over the legal process. I can account for magical spells by exposing how the wicked old witch of Windsor used that control of the law to cast her spells. I can account for reptilian behaviour by means of training – first at boarding school, thereafter within Scottish Rite Freemasonry – in how to be inhuman.<br><br>My experience of American boards is that there are (more than) two subjects that are taboo: the Queen and the Talmud. If one tries to talk about the latter one is flamed and then ignored. If you try to talk about the former you get some poor inadequate going on about reptiles, just to show how clever they are.<br><br>Don’t get me wrong. I’ve experienced the miraculous. I have no doubt whatsoever that we are not alone.<br><br>But I’m trying to inform others. Like you I’m trying to wake people up. I do what works. I have found that you must lead them, bit by bit. If you start off by asking them to accept the extraordinary they will switch off. So I try to be as prosaic and internally-sufficient as possible (that’s why I read neither Skolnik nor Icke)<br><br>BTW She also said he was German!<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: correction +

Postby DrDebugDU » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:07 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>For some reason, I just cant get out of my head Dianas comments about the Royals- as recorded in live interviews prior to the 'accident'.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>You mean the remark of the family being lizards. Yes, it stunned me as well and made me rethink Icke, however it doesn't matter. Just like animals share the same planet and have similar emotions and feelings, aliens and reptilians are bound to be similar. So even if the Windsors are not humans, they are subject to the same world and the same laws of nature. <br><br>And if the stories of aliens amongst us are true as well then it still doesn't make any difference, because even though their experience of the world may be different, they are subject to the same laws of nature like any human and any animal.<br><br>P.S. on edit:<br>It was also strange to realize that the day of Diana was killed was the day of Feast of Athena. So it was a symbolic day as well <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 8/22/05 3:25 pm<br></i>
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Diana's comments

Postby rapt » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:09 pm

I'd like to read those comments antiariso; do you have a reference I could follow?<br><br>The notion that the British royalty are reptiles fits perfectly with other evidence I have absorbed over the last few years, including plenty of it delivered by yourself a-aristo. You pointed out some time ago that Mrs. Windsor actually has no legitimate claim to the throne; correct me if I have this wrong. If so it is perhaps another of those convenient substitutions into the ruling class that we have seen in history. As a down-home Yankee boy I don't have a good feel for what is legitimate or not as regards the royalty.<br><br>On the requirement that we all, human or not, must follow certain rules, I feel like that is a rather weak attempt to rationalise away the uncomfortable suggestion that there may be aliens among us and that they have non-human objectives, attitudes, powers. As fair and rational as I try to be, I can't help but notice that many of the familiar lead players in this game have decidedly non-human attributes. Plus, they seem to be all working together on some agenda that is perhaps incomprehensible to the rest of us mortals.<br><br>I know, this behavior has been called simple incompetence by some, or mere greedy criminality, but those simple explanations don't wash. Especially now that the cover is blown and ever more desperate moves are made right out in the open. There is a deadline here and these creeps are in danger of missing it. I imagine the punishment for missing the deadline must be quite harsh, given the risks being taken to meet it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: correction +

Postby slimmouse » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:52 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>And if the stories of aliens amongst us are true as well then it still doesn't make any difference, because even though their experience of the world may be different, they are subject to the same laws of nature like any human and any animal.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> But with respect, that simply isnt true. Weve all heard of the term "crocodile tears" - which i can only assume is a reference to an insincere display of emotion, or that a crocodile doesnt have tear ducts. Either way, one might wonder why.<br><br> Where I was thinking there might be some reconciliation however is in the sense that if you can think nothing of blowing up people throughout the ages, on a pile of nothing but sinisterly fabricated deceptions, in order to extend your power base through territory, wealth and exploitation then there <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>must</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> be something woefully lacking in your emotional make up.<br><br> What Im trying to get at I spose, is that just as this thread had hopefully established - The fact that the real image of ourselves is little more than an illusion - So are the "official" facts about the ancients, our own history, our "official" religions and all the rest of it. <br><br> Anti - Remember, this kind of thing has been the MO of the same ruling dynasties for essentially as long as recorded history can document. For recent examples see OKC, JFK, MLK, Gulf of Tonkin, 9/11, WMD etc etc etc - not to mention your own story.<br><br> I respectfully meanwhile, would suggest that no amount of training could ever persuade any caring human being of the merits of such obvious insensitivity. Or perhaps the secret is that they simply ignore that ?<br><br> Are the upper echelons of our society, aliens or shapeshifting reptilians ? My heart suggests yes, whilst my head insists no.<br> But ive had 40 years of having my head pounded with nothing but fabrications and essentially brainwashing - So much for my head. I suppose logic is suggesting to me that with regards to almost any "official" story these days - all bets are off <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rolleyes --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Dark Crystal

Postby RollickHooper » Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:16 pm

Ellie mentioned in another thread that pedophilia isn't about sex but rather it's about power, control--dominion--<br>I suspect men have been raping women and children since, um, women and children were invented . . . so I'm not sure how far we've come morally or spiritually, that we can speak of the PTB as some alien species distinct from ourselves.<br>But I just wanted to post an image here and I don't have the "tools" to do it so you're all invited to click on the link below:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/3108/skeksis.html">www.geocities.com/Hollywo...eksis.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: correction +

Postby DrDebugDU » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:10 pm

> But with respect, that simply isnt true. <br><br>I know it isn't. This is a very difficult subject, because everybody who even doubts whether the royalty, leaders et al. are maybe non-human are automatically branded as extreme conspiracy theorists.<br><br>However like the other people in this story, I do doubt their human nature and do not consider it impossible that they are reptilians or aliens. If they are aliens then it is a fait a compli, so the same must apply to them as to us humans.<br><br>I know that it seems like their agenda is world domination and they have been pretty successful for many centuries in that attempt as well. So successful that royalty cannot be removed by normal means and our framework should always be non-violent, because else we lost the moralty we are attempting to achieve ourselves.<br><br>> if you can think nothing of blowing up people throughout the ages (...) there must be something woefully lacking in your emotional make up.<br><br>The problem is that humans are quite capable of murdering and other crimes without any emotional feel about it. We call them military, police, politicians etc. A portion of those humans will do tremendous evil without any emotional feeling about it, so there are plenty of humans without empathy. In fact most people can be programmed to lose all empathy as shown in the Vietnam war where successful psyops was used to make the soldiers many times more trigger happy than ever before.<br><br>> The fact that the real image of ourselves is little more than an illusion - So are the "official" facts about the ancients, our own history, our "official" religions and all the rest of it.<br><br>It's all an illusion. I couldn't agree more. Since most certainties which we are taught have vanished on close inspection, the alien/reptile issue is bound to contain more truth than we can imagine, however without plenty of real evidence it will be hard to talk about since the overall population isn't ready to accept these truths since they rock the foundation of what they believe. If most people have a hard time accepting 9/11 as MIHOP despite overwhelming evidence then how are they going to feel about aliens? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 8/22/05 6:12 pm<br></i>
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responses

Postby antiaristo » Mon Aug 22, 2005 8:13 pm

rapt,<br>I don't have a reference but I can tell you the context.<br>Charles had just taken delivery of a brand new top-of-the-line BMW. It was in the early 90's and he was getting a lot of stick for not buying British.<br>Her comment was "Why shouldn't he have a German car? He's German himself."<br><br>slim,<br>I've watched powerful men squeezed by Freemasonry. They swore certain blood-oaths when they were young men and they were coming home to roost.<br>When you get into Freemasonry you learn to keep your mouth shut, to do what you are told and so you live.<br>I see absolutely no difference between losing your free will and losing your soul, do you? <p></p><i></i>
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reply to zerohaven - heaven boring

Postby electric love » Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:06 am

you guess right, heaven IS boring, zh - heaven is nice when 'the world is too much with us' [wordsworth]' but a little goes a long way - it's like alice in wonderland's cake or whateveritwas - that you nibble one side to get bigger and other side to get smaller - it's nice to have heaven on hand to balance an excess of excitement, horror, etc in life on earth<br><br>but life on earth is an essential part of heaven - it provides the excitement side - 'heaven and earth are ultimately not to be thought of as different' [buddha] -heaven and earth [perfection and imperfection, the realm where everything is homogenised/blended, and the realm where you can bump into things and have accidents] work together as a team to give us the perfection greater than perfection/heaven - bliss till it gets boring on one side, and danger until it gets too freaky - perfect peace, and the b-movie of life - which starts to look good after youve had a bit of the homogenised bliss-union of heaven [like looking at the dazzle-white on tv after the station closes down]<br><br>this is the meaning of the yin-yang sign, the circle with the black swirly half and the white swirly half - the white represents heaven, the black represents earth, and the circle [the marriage of heaven and earth] represents the perfection greater than heaven<br><br>hence the bodhisattva, who shows us the divine in life on earth - when jesus said heaven is at hand, he meant the divine in life - the nonboring side of it<br><br>when youve only experienced earth, you can start to think that all you want to do is get away from it, but five minutes in heaven/homogenised/bliss/union, and you are re-energised to take on life again<br><!--EZCODE CENTER START--><div style="text-align:center"><br>EzCode Parsing Error: face=courier color=fuchsia size=4]EzCode Parsing Error: color=fuchsia size=4]there is no wound that life can give that a short time in heaven/bliss/energy can't cure - so everything is perfect[/font]</div><!--EZCODE CENTER END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Parsing Error

Postby RollickHooper » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:46 pm

antiaristo: "I see absolutely no difference between losing your free will and losing your soul, do you?"<br><br>I've done a lot of reading on Complex Post-Traumatic and Dissociative Disorders in the last few years, and the one thing that hit me like a mule-kick to the gut was that some traumatologists refer to [childhood abuse] as Soul Murder.<br>My interest in the subject arose within the context of a tempestuous relationship with a very damaged woman, a sociopath without a conscience, a liar, a thief, a flim-flammer; so the term Soul Murder hits home because I've seen it.<br>But she grew up under the tyranny of an abusive father and for her, dissociation (and substance abuse) is her idea of "heaven."<br><br>electric love: in my experience there are wounds that cannot be cured by dissociating yourself out of a bad situation. That's probably not what you meant by "heaven/bliss/energy" but even so it's gonna take a full eternity to heal the hurts some of us have received. <p></p><i></i>
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eternity

Postby electriclove » Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:35 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE FONT START--><span style="color:fuchsia;font-family:verdana;font-size:medium;">an interesting point about eternity: it only takes an instant to experience it all, because it is changeless, timeless<br><br>and, about hell: the essence of it is thinking it lasts forever</span><!--EZCODE FONT END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: How big are We - really ?

Postby Nymarya » Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:01 am

slimmouse said:<br><br>"Im seeking some help from the scientists on this forum in this respect to say yeah or nee."<br><br>Does that mean you are looking for the scientists who say "nee!"<br><br>Sorry. Just a Python fan who used to work as a professional proofreader.<br><br>About big vs small...when I was in my teens, I had this idea that planets were actually electrons in the atoms of incomparably huge beings, and that inconceivably small creatures lived on the electrons in our bodies.<br><br>Needless to say, I was one of those humanities types who didn't take physics.<br><br>However, I still like the idea....my own version of the Great Chain of Being.<br><br>For the record, I have never understood why there has to be a prime mover. If "God" can be eternal, why can't the universe? Why go back one more unnecessary step?<br><br>On another blog when we were having a similar discussion I said I believed the earth was carried on the back of an elephant standing on four tortoises but had always been stumped when someone asked me what the tortoises on. Another poster said the answer to give is "It's tortoises all the way down." <br><br>Edited for grammar. <p>=======<br>Oh, I enjoy an egg myself, yes. They don't make good pets, though; you can never get them in at night. <br> ~Doctor Pratt (played by Peter Sellers), "The Wrong Box"</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=nymarya>Nymarya</A> at: 9/19/05 12:03 am<br></i>
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