Time for a different outlook ?

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Time for a different outlook ?

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:33 pm

<br> For a while now, Ive been working with some pretty amazing people, who have taught me much and fast.<br><br> They have given me a basecamp from which I can introduce many to the realities behind the illusion that is their own previously concieved vision of reality - Namely that "Al kayeeda" are the bad guys who did 9/11, 7/7 et cetera. <br><br> I am also able to ably demonstrate to them that their entire history is a virtual lie to boot, and initiate in many cases a radical mindshift, which whilst being naturally disturbing to people to begin with, is slowly shifting hearts and minds to our side. They in turn of course tell their friends, and the chinese whispers process begins. <br><br> [At this point Id like to say "big love" to the "other side". I mean of course the "Al kayeeda done it, we're actually the good guys, 'long live the haves' brigade. No offence intended folks <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> ]<br><br> The strong underlying theme to much of this work however ( ably assisted by accompanying reading ) regards the fundamental aspect of how energy and consciousness actually works, and how best to harness our often desperate desire to change the mass of humanities' collective lot, in the most constructive and thus effective and speedy way.<br><br> It would appear that one of the most negative emotions is anger. This coupled with fear, and guilt, maintain us all in a relative state of paralysis. Many people understand much of this here. In an intelligent arena such as this, many have spoken of how archons feed on such emotions, and that we "create" such demons ( if you like ) through our negative emotions.<br><br> I feel that I now understand such seeming intangibles ( to many people ) much better, and am 100% satisfied that this is the way much of the world works <br><br> For anyone who doubts any kind of existence of such hidden workings, it is worthwhile reminding ourselves, that we actually "see " around 10% of what is going on around us, and hear even less - making us effectively practically blind and deaf <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Given the above facts therefore, perhaps a way to speed up what in my view is actually an inevitable demise of those who wish to both control us, and keep us in ignorance is not perhaps to focus our (negative ) emotions on "them " anything like as much.<br><br> That isnt to say that we ignore what they do, or keep ourselves uninformed of their mischief. <br><br> However, rather than drive ourselves into fits of rage, fear and despair over their deeds, we need to focus our energies perhaps on those who suffer, and focus a collective sense of empathy ( love ) towards those people, and animals, and Trees, and even plants ( yes, plants have consciousness too ) that are caught up, and being destroyed in much of this madness.<br><br> This to my way of thinking is a much more positive way of bringing about the inevitable changes to our world today ?<br><br> I think the term is 'accentuate the positive' <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Stay tuned meanwhile folks. Some long promised alternatives to shortly follow <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :hat --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/pimp.gif ALT=":hat"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Different outlook

Postby rapt » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:55 pm

Yes Slim, I have been warned by those close to me that my anger is getting out of control (even though I deny this)...but your point is well taken, as the results of my anger (if it indeed exists) are immeasurably small, compared to the good that comes from "accentuating the positive." Hey I do that too. Will do more!<br><br>One might feel that one's small contribution to the positive is not near enough in view of the onrushing crimes we see pouring over us, which makes it harder to settle for less. Thanks for the push though; I will try harder.<br><br>Now please tell us more about these "pretty amazing people." I feel shortchanged here.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Time for a different outlook ?

Postby eric144 » Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:56 pm

I agree with a lot of this, especially the anger, but <br><br>"Given the above facts therefore, perhaps a way to speed up what in my view is actually an inevitable demise of those who wish to both control us"<br><br>My view is simply that they've to all effect won already. You know when you're playing chess, you have only a pawn left and the opponent has two rooks and a queen, forget winning, it won't happen.<br><br>The Iran war and bird flu are enough to get world war III well under way with no protests from anyone. I'm looking for acceptance of the inevitable rather than 'accentuating the positive' .<br><br>One day, they will lose, but only if they trip themselves up REALLY badly.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Time for a different outlook ?

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:07 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>My view is simply that they've to all effect won already. You know when you're playing chess, you have only a pawn left and the opponent has two rooks and a queen, forget winning, it won't happen.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> So much for accentuating the positive <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> I would just ask you meanwhile, to think about this. <br> The people who run the show today, are the same gang whove been doing this throughout the ages. Thousands of years of essentially the same bunch sticking it up the rest of humanity. In short, Weve never had more than a pawn and ignorance- before now.<br><br> Their greatest control mechanism of course has <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>always been the media.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. This isnt anything of a recent phenomena. Theyve always controlled that too, and of course changing any of this isnt gonna take place in five minutes.<br><br> Nonetheless, Protect that which we now have, and watch the fires of truth grow beyond their remit. <br><br> Oh- and look into proxy servers <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Rapt - more on my buddies soon enough <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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hail

Postby Homeless Halo » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:21 pm

A few things.<br><br>First, we "see" FAR less than 10% of the available spectrum. Secondly, we only know that because we CAN detect the things we cannot see. You're talking about something else entirely when you talk about "Archons" and whatnot. Something we do not detect and have no objective validity for. Please do not try to use a limited understanding of optics as an excuse to believe in evil demon lords. <br><br>I'd have to disagree with you about anger. Even the Christ didn't consider Anger to be a bad thing of itself. If anything, I'd wager that a LACK of anger is one of our biggest problems. People wish to bury their heads in the sand and wait on our positive feelings to banish the darkness. As if wanting peace is enough to bring it into being. All the great pacifist leaders were neutralized a long time ago, their revolutions unfinished to this day. Their killers remain unpunished, and to a greater extent, decide the future of the world today. <br><br>eric:<br><br>Won? What did they have to lose? There was no conflict, no war. We lost without ever fighting. "We the people" have spent the last 6000 years in a continual fallback manuever. To change this will require loads more than mistakes on their part, even big ones (they make mistakes every day, but we do nothing to capitalize on their failure). And it will never be accomplished by wishful thinking. They didn't "beat" us, because we never fought back. We marched and sang and prayed for peace, and they laughed at us on the way to bank their profits.<br><br>More dangerous, I think, than the New World Order of Neo-Whatevers egendering policies of continual war, is the so-called opposition that wants me to sit on my hands and calmly discuss these issues, even as the ground I stand on is slowly being overcome with the rising tides.<br><br>Bubble headed leftist ninnies are the real enemy.<br>They equate peace with servitude and grim acceptance of our station. You want me to sit here and send positive energy while they carpet bomb country after country into submission.<br><br>When will you stop praying and start doing something other than talking?<br><br>Where is the line drawn in the sand?<br><br>Good luck trying to convince all your friends of the evils of the establishment. With any luck, they'll be informed before they are interred.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Time for a different outlook ?

Postby eric144 » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:24 pm

As for the media, the British government has a positive mania for getting people connected to the internet, they're certainly not worried about that.<br><br>I'm willing to bet that all many people will be interested in a few months (or may be a year) down the line will be staying alive. Possibly in a quarantined city with soldiers keeping them in like the did in New Orleans, no food, water or electricity. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hail

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:43 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>First, we "see" FAR less than 10% of the available spectrum.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> 3% in fact of the available spectrum. and between 7 and 17% of all things around us, if you wanna get technical. Guess that depends how "aware" we are ? <br><br> We can of course argue the toss about what emotions create which entities and all the rest of it.<br><br> Im rather dissapointed, that as a confirmed Thelemite however, that you dont seem to take Crowley anything like as seriously as he seemed to take himself.<br><br> Anyways. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on some stuff. But assuming you believe like AC did that dark entities do exist in other realms, you might wish to explain their existence ?<br><br> Anger, Fear, guilt and resentment meanwhile are the key blocks to Christ consciousness if you want my opinion. I guess we see things differently there too.<br><br> But love does go a long way. You should see my rubber plant lately ! Go figure lol. <p></p><i></i>
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I certainly hope so.

Postby Homeless Halo » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:44 pm

That would make my decision easier for me. So, I certainly hope they start their detainment/world rule plan soon.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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indeed.

Postby Homeless Halo » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:47 pm

I have no problem with someone believing in demons.<br><br>Indeed, I've spoken to several demons myself.<br><br>However, I took issue with the reference to newtonian opticks as evidence for the existence of demons, etc.<br><br>You won't see me trying to explain how demons exist, because I have no evidence to present, only speculations, which I believe only muddle the issue at hand.<br><br>And as a Thelemite, I might add, what you think Crowley believed and what I think he believed are likely not the same thing.<br><br>Depends on where you get your information from.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hail

Postby eric144 » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:49 pm

Halo<br><br>Excellent stuff, nothing to disagree with. <br><br>There was a true story going around after 9/11 about these amazingly brave German kids who stood up to Hitler. We were prompted to take inspiration from them. Unfortunately they they were shot - dead.<br><br>"When will you stop praying and start doing something other than talking?"<br><br>I won't because I am actually genuinely too afraid to write to my MP here in Airstrip One (UK) because I KNOW I will end up on a list of people to watch. MY MP is drafting the Emergency Powers Act which will be a complete military take over in the event of, for example bird flu. I'm sure it will be wildly exaggerated, but they're going to do it both in Britain and the US. Bush has said it.<br><br>"Where is the line drawn in the sand?<br><br>Good luck trying to convince all your friends of the evils of the establishment. With any luck, they'll be informed before they are interred."<br><br>Let's not kid each other on here. <br><br>Try this experiment. Turn 180 degrees from where you are now. Count how many people are following you and let us know. <br><br>Do you think you can fight F16's with your bare hands any better than a Palestinian or Iraqi ? <br><br>Do you think there's a connection between the loss of 380 tons of explosives by the US marines and the Iraqi resistance ? <br><br>How is it that Tokyo was virtually wiped out in one night and the United States lost a war in Vietnam against a bunch of peasants and Saigon, a virtually unprotected city was never destroyed ?<br><br>My point is that they have much more power than they actually display. Sometimes it's profitable to keep fighting. If things got difficult, we would disappear just like the millions the Americans made disappear in South America by proxy.<br><br>6000 years, you're correct and it won't change, people are a combination of hypnotised and sleepwalking.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hail

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:58 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There was a true story going around after 9/11 about these amazingly brave German kids who stood up to Hitler. We were prompted to take inspiration from them. Unfortunately they they were shot - dead.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> No fear there Eric huh ? Or are in fact you trying to shock people into 'active submission' ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> Thanks for the positive contribution. <br><br> As a friend of mine once told me, better a year of life like a lion than the lifetime ( this one anyways ) of a sheep. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hail

Postby eric144 » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:05 pm

Lions spend abou 2/3 of their life asleep by the way. <br><br>Let us know some of your 'lion like' exploits in fighting the New World Order. <br><br>I have some experience of conflict and what I know is that as long as people have enough food and drugs, they don't want ANY hassle from the likes of us.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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indeed.

Postby Homeless Halo » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:07 pm

I didn't mean "fighting" in the vulgar sense of the word.<br><br>That never works.<br>or it hasn't yet, anyway.<br><br>But neither does passive resistance.<br>or it hasn't yet, anyway.<br><br>I favor a new approach as well, but it has nothing to do with thinking happy thoughts and floating away to never never land.<br><br>Insofar as a military police state in america: Possible, but truly not likely. I don't know many soldiers that would have the stones neccessary to fire on american civilians for very long. So I don't see it happening that way. <br><br>Not to mention that there simply isn't enough manpower in our military to fight external threats and do police actions inside this country, as we've recently discovered. Our military machine is in decline. The amount of force we can bring to bear is still greater than any of our closest rivals, but is no longer the trump card we'd all like to think it is. <br><br>Bushco can't instigate a police state without making a huge machiavellian error, one which could prove fatal to any "prince". Pissing off the Nobility. That is, the lower level crooks and cheats who fight over scraps from the big table. They won't let themselves be hurt, and they need us. <br><br>"And well-ordered states and wise princes have, with great dilligence, taken care not to drive the nobility to desperation and to satisfy the people and keep them contented, for this is one of the most important concerns a prince has."<br>Machiavelli, The Prince CH.19<br><br>I think the Shell-Man Bush, and his coconspirators may indeed be foolish enough to do something like that. But their investors aren't. They have the REAL power in this world, and people like me already know where they live.<br><br>Just in case. All the F-16s in the world could not save them from the can of worms such a foolish action would open up.<br><br><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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soldiers

Postby eric144 » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:24 pm

"I don't know many soldiers that would have the stones neccessary to fire on american civilians for very long. So I don't see it happening that way. "<br><br>I don't know any soldiers, then again I dot live in an (already) militarised society like the United States. They would shoot if they thought the people had deadly bird flu for certain and I predict it will happen, soon.<br><br>Hitler created a police state out of the threat of terrorism, they didn't have genetic engineering or he would have used avian flu as well. The British government and WHO are prericting as many as 2o% of people in the world will die and it's in Europe (Romania) already. Once they genetically modify it to be human to human transmissable, it's going to happen.<br><br>The flu will eventually go and wage slavery will continue in a depleted way so the nobility will be happy and if they're not, there's nothing to do against a pandemic anyway.<br><br>American technology is racing ahead of everyone else, not just in weapons but population control, it is a trump card as long as they control space which many people believe was the reason for the 9/11 attacks, an excuse to weaponise space.<br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: hail

Postby slimmouse » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:28 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I have some experience of conflict and what I know is that as long as people have enough food and drugs, they don't want ANY hassle from the likes of us.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br> And the feeling is extremely mutual. I just hope nobody minds being told the truth for a change ?<br><br> Is that OK ? I hope so, cos I think that everyone who wants the truth deserves it right ?<br><br> Might I apologise in advance if speaking the truth is somehow offensive or in any way inconvenient to ya ! <br><br> After all, who in their right mind can object to that ? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> And come to think of it, if that appears offensive or inconvenient, then why bother coming to a place like this, where youre far more likely to get news and opinions that get far closer to the truth than switching the hypnotizer on ?<br><br> Or is this just your idea of keeping informed whilst staying alive ? Or is it your heartfelt concern for any would be dissident such as myself ? Some kind of warning maybe ?<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START >D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/grin.gif ALT=" >D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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