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AlicetheKurious wrote:11:11, I'm not "shilling" for Islam. I'm "shilling" for the principle that people who don't know what they're talking about, should either inform themselves or shut the hell up about other peoples' religion.
It's ironic. I have a big group of women friends who get together once a week, at somebody's home for a day of talk and laughter and lots of food. No topic is off limits, and the discussion sometimes gets very loud and heated, which is not surprising, given the diversity of our backgrounds.
A couple of weeks ago, the subject of Palestine came up, and one of the women said "the Jews" when she meant Israel. I got in her face, and the discussion turned to the difference between religion and ideology. By the time we were finished, she had realized how offensive and unfair it was to confuse the two. Unlike you, she admitted that she knew too little about Judaism to make a judgment, and promised to distinguish between the actions of criminals, and the faith they happen to belong to. Never once did she accuse me of being a "shill for Judaism", but then again, her mind was not as poisoned by hate propaganda as yours seems to be.
Perhaps you're a vegan, so from your point of view, anyone who eats meat is participating in "the murdering of innocent animals". Maybe I'm wrong, and you single out Islam for prescribing a specific method of slaughter. Maybe you don't know that the Muslim "halal" and the Jewish "kosher" methods are almost identical.
That, unlike most Western practices, the "halal" method is specifically designed to be humane, and ensure that the animal suffers as little as possible. That "the sacrifice" does not refer to "weirdos" who "slash the throat of an innocent animal, in the name of a deity", but to someone who buys a sheep, or cow, pays a butcher to slaughter it, to distribute its meat to the poor, who otherwise could not afford to eat meat.
As for stoning, cutting off of hands, and so on, such practices are as shocking and barbaric to me as they are to you and, indeed, to the overwhelming majority of Arabs and Muslims, who would never dream of putting them into practice.
Only someone very ignorant, or very malicious, would insist on blaming all Muslims for the actions of a few, isolated fanatics. As a Christian, I do not accept that I be lumped in with the likes of your president, the Rapture crowd, the Christian Zionist kooks, nor judged for the actions of your raping, murdering, torturing, occupying representatives in Iraq.
If someone wants to call those monsters criminals, that's fine with me, because that's what they are. If someone starts attacking them for being Christian, then, guess what? I'll defend Christianity against such ignorance and injustice. Then, I guess, I'll be a "shill" for the Christian religion...
robert d reed wrote:This place don't make sense to me no more, cont'd.
http://www.muzzlewatch.com/?p=112
professorpan wrote:For Christ's sake, must the word ZIONIST get thrown into any discussion of neocons -- as if Israel is the only subject that drives their perverse quest for global hegemony?
How about:
ELITE WHITE GUY OUT TO RULE THE WORLD
PRIVILEGED MALE OUT TO RULE THE WORLD
MONOTHEIST OUT TO RULE THE WORLD
CONSERVATIVE ASSHOLE OUT TO RULE THE WORLD
MILITARIST HAWK OUT TO RULE THE WORLD
ANTI-HUMANIST PECKERSNIFF OUT TO RULE THE WORLD
BOW-TIE SPORTING RIGHT-WING DICKHEAD OUT TO RULE THE WORLD
Oh, wait -- his name is Cohen. That's a Jew name.
Has he been added to the list, dbd?
The Israeli Zionists are indeed behind not only the so-called neocons, but the whole "Christian Fundamantalist" movement in this country, not to merntion some real nasty Nazi-like torture and mind control on American children to create a fifth column of Cult-backed Mossad agents in this country. They have spent a generation planning and implementing their Zionist Cult-based take over of this country.
Also, Mohammed Atta worked for the CIA/Mossad as a double agent.
(I know this because he was one of the people I met when I was working for them (Mossad) in Egypt.
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