The SPECTACLE IS PERMANENT (Formerly a Gary Webb thread)

[theeKultleeder]

Uhm, please nobody hate me for this, but one of the reasons I signed up here is because I appreciate Hugh's theories.

Me too. He is a paradox.

He is endlessly fascinating but quickly boring.

I like his gems. They are worth the whole trip.

[brownzeroed]

Hey Couldbe.

1) Welcome to the board.
2) Sorry if my goofy retort hit you. Put it in the "friendly fire" category. Totally unintentional.

...he seems to be completely correct that history and ideas get co-opted by the ptb's.

3) I don't think anyone here would disagree w/ that. I think the sticking point is on the execution. I have no personal issues w/ Hugh whatsoever. In fact, dare I say... I enjoy his company. I'd be lying if no one ever said some of my conclusions were off-center. Hugh, I sincerely mean this.
4) I'm am a proud (PROUD) proponent of the 1st Amendment, the Magna Carta, John "the animal" Locke, etc. Say whatever you like.
5) Feel free to disagree w/ me anytime. I encourage it.
6) Assume, unless noted otherwise, I'm saying it with a smile on my face. Think of me as the guy you shoot shit with at the bar. I'm a camera man by trade, so an authority on Deep Politics I am not...

[8bitagent]

Aw yes, the good ol 1990's, where "conspiracy theories" were mainstream and ok to talk about: JFK, aliens/UFO/roswell/Area 51/men in black,
CIA-drugs, Vince Foster/Mena, etc.

But ever since 9/11...anything above WMD lies-Blackwater shenanigans-election fudging is "taboo" and "crazy talk"

THANK GOODNESS people like Naomi Wolf has fully come out for 9/11 truth, if anything to wake the left from their absolute slumber.

The Gary Webb story is tragic. How many whistleblowers and people exposing this sort of stuff have been "found dead"?

Terrence Yeakey, a top cop in OKC about to expose the bombs he saw..
Gary Webb, who made the CIA-crack meme mainstream
Danny "Octopus" Casalaro
Mark Lombari, the first to connect the ISI-Bush-bin Laden meme

Look how many people have died surrounding the Franklin Coverup case.
Even the former director of the CIA William Colby and the lead prosector died when trying to expose it.
A high level government coverup that even Hunter S Thompson and Duncan/Blake were researching.

My issue is that the CIA-drugs story gets limited hang out reception,
as it gets turned into a "well the CIA let some contras fly cocaine to America, but we needed to fight the commies...and well the senate cut off black op funding"

When the REAL story is since the damn 50's the CIA has been tied to drugs, be it MK Ultra/Artichoke, or Vietnam era smuggling.

I mean look at Plan Columbia and post US invaded Afghanistan, or Noriega, Barry Seal, etc.

The mainstream LOVES a good scandal...Clinton BJ, Enron, Plamegate, Watergate, Iran Contra, etc

Oooh, but when it comes to shattering pilars of paradigms...9/11, drugs, etc...oh no, that's "crazy" to try and expose.

I have very little respect for so called "people on the left" who say 9/11 was merely Osama and 19 guys, and no outside funding.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Seriously, Hugh.

bz has earned the right to be pissed for the carnival you brought to his thread.

What "carnival?" You're getting very superficial, Jeff. This is a...discussion board?
Oh, everytime you see me put up a movie reference you are going to act like I'm starting a food fight?
(Hey. Rein in your 'moderator,' Pan. He's more offensive than Doodad, ok?)

I've brought info directly off the pages of Webb's 'Dark Alliance!'
And I've added to and developed it. Oh, my apologies. I didn't just post an emoticon.

Re: Parry. I am NOT putting up the full page of analysis of some of his distortions I documented and wrote for another Project Censored attendee so as not to threadjack.
But Webb was trashed and ruined by CIA and it is worth noting where Parry dodges and gives them cover.

Repeat. Webb was trashed and ruined by CIA and it IS worth noting where Parry dodges and gives them cover. Gawd damn right.

And I took the time and trouble to talk PERSONALLY to Parry one-on-one
after his odd comments on a panel to find out what he knows vs what he will say.
I found out he know stuff he doesn't say. Repeatedly.

So don't treat me like someone who doesn't do what Pan likes to call "honest research."

Re: Nell.
In 1994 the truth of CIA cocaine smuggling was not common knowledge and the frickin' CIA-Washington Post took the trouble and risk of pretending to debunk Terry Reed's story about carrying out CIA covert activities in Nella!

Because Reed had a very damaging book out FOUR YEARS before Gary Webb did.
And he outed a sitting president and former president for drug smuggling.

There it is right there on page 114 of Gary Webb's 'Dark Alliance.'
(Oh- sorry for that "carnival." Anybody else actually footnoting Webb's work here? No.
Have another emoticon.)

Here's Reed's book-


Reed even produced a video during 1994 if I've got a copy dated January, 1995.

So the opportunistic Hollywood-ification of a play with the keyword, "Nell," in it (eiAe) was a perfect chance to dilute this dangerous association, especially since the play/movie was a 'backwoods' setting.

This OPPORTUNISTIC use of narratives is done all the time. Decoys aren't always generated from scratch. Genuine articles that fit the bill are used whenever possible for plausible deniability and the additional effectiveness of cultural integrity.

Like Alice Walker's 'The Color Purple' getting CIA-Spielberg-ed to cloak the LIHOP of Pearl Harbor's broken Japanese Purple code.

Steven Spielberg had already covered up Pearl Harbor's LIHOP when in 1979 he made the farcical movie '1941.' This was the very same year that President Jimmy Carter ordered declassification of many Pearl Harbor documents thereby risking visibility of that cover-up again.

So CIA-Spielberg did it again in 1985 when he hyped the sincere Alice Walker's product and made Oprah a permanent decoy trigger for 'The Color Purple' instead of Pearl Harbor's broken Purple code.

And I think we know how this led to 9/11.
BTW, did you know that a certain...Captain Kirk...is prominent in the cover-up of the LIHOP of Pearl Harbor?

Is anyone else seeing the pattern yet? I will keep adding to the count....

To come back to CIA COCAINE-
Spielberg used Saturday Night Live's John Belushi as the star of '1941' and then Belushi seems to have been finished off with the equivalent of a 'hotshot' by an informer just before he was going to make a movie where an FBI agent is the drug dealer.

According to Alex Constantine, there was going to be a drug set-up publicity bust of Belushi, Robin Williams, and Robert DiNiro but it didn't happen.

Once the soon-to-be-too-hot-politically Belushi was as dead as Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, and John Lennon and thus a new poster child for 'counterculture's self-destructive excess,' a certain Naval Intelligence officer named Bob Woodward took time out from writing about politics as a leading Mockingbird in 1984 to write 'Wired: The Short Life and Fast Times of John Belushi' and hype the image of the drug-riddled slob who just couldn't help himself in a youthful atmosphere of un-Reaganesque permissiveness.

What perfect timing to have a moral outrage decoy for Ollie North and Vice President Bush's cocaine smuggling and death squads, ay?

Jeff, if all you're going to is roll your eyes every time I mention the equivalent of gravity in psy-ops culture, the creation of linguistic decoys in pop entertainment...yikes.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Gary Webb describes how in 1994 a Washington Post reporter wrote a dismissive disinfo article on Terry Reed's claims in his book, 'Compromised,' to have been training "would-be Contra pilots at a clandestine airstrip near Nella, Arkansas."

1994-

1992-

Writing credits for Nell: Mark Handley(play"Idioglossia")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioglossia_(play)

Idioglossia is a play by Mark Handley about a girl who grows up without modern culture to teach her how to speak. It was first preformed in 1992 at the George Street Playhouse in New Brunswick, New Jersey. [1] The title comes from the medical term Idioglossia meaning an idiosyncratic language that few speak, and associated with Cryptophasia.

[edit] Summary

In the deep back country, a local boy discovers that a semi-paralyzed hermit has died. Local police and a doctor are taken to her primitive cabin, and discover a seemingly half crazed women who speaks only in unintelligent babbles. At first, the woman is declared a wild child, and protective services needs to know if she is capable to live on her own. A linguist is called in to observe the woman to see if they can learn to speak her language. After intense lessons, the researchers learn that the woman's name is Nell, and that her distinctive speech is due from her mother (the hermit) being paralyzed on one side on her face, and from twin speech from her now dead sister.

Yeah, I saw that before you did, eiAe. So what?

See my post above where I (for the umpteenth bloody time) pointed out how easy and valuable it is to find stuff to hype into a movie, a virus to market.
And stuff can even be manufactured at a lower level with intention of pumping it up to mass marketed level.

C'mon. You're smart enough to figure that out.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

...he seems to be completely correct that history and ideas get co-opted by the ptb's.

3) I don't think anyone here would disagree w/ that. I think the sticking point is on the execution. I have no personal issues w/ Hugh whatsoever. In fact, dare I say... I enjoy his company. I'd be lying if no one ever said some of my conclusions were off-center. Hugh, I sincerely mean this.
4) I'm am a proud (PROUD) proponent of the 1st Amendment, the Magna Carta, John "the animal" Locke, etc. Say whatever you like.
5) Feel free to disagree w/ me anytime. I encourage it.
6) Assume, unless noted otherwise, I'm saying it with a smile on my face. Think of me as the guy you shoot shit with at the bar. I'm a camera man by trade, so an authority on Deep Politics I am not...

I appreciate anyone who gives enough of a damn to think and even disagree.

I think after seeing enough examples, enough dots, you'll see how they connect as I do.

Here's the principle of keyword hijacking (decoy psy-ops):

Pentagon definition of counterpropaganda-
"Any action taken to minimize the effect of hostile propaganda."

So any keywords that are hostile to power are not allowed to go unchallenged without competition. Benign definitions for those hostile keywords are marketed to supercede or even just dilute the reaction in our minds.

This is both most important and easiest to achieve in young minds, the younger the better. Children have formed a strong sense of in-group/out-group by age 3.

And, coincidentally, the movie-going age bracket also happens to be 14-22. Especially since the Army Research Institute (begun at Harvard in 1916) finds that young men consider joining the military at two ages, 16 and 22.

All this means that hiding goverment crimes like CIA cocaine smuggling from teens and pre-biasing their brains to think of the hot Jodie Foster when they see the keyword 'Nell' instead of Terry Reed training Contras in Nella...works just enough theoretically to make the effort since the same effort is made in zillions of other ways that all add up, like shaving a few votes off in every single voting machine to sway an election.

Now have some more tea and honey.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

The Gary Webb story is tragic. How many whistleblowers and people exposing this sort of stuff have been "found dead"?

Terrence Yeakey, a top cop in OKC about to expose the bombs he saw..

I was just rereading Webb's 'Dark Alliance' and was stunned to finally notice that there was material on pages 331-339 that suggested just why the Federal Building in Oklahoma City was rigged for demolition with the fertilizer bomb being cover.

There were probably materials there that indict GHWBush for IranContra at the very least.

I hope RI readers are reading their books, too.

on edit: adding a page for those who still use books

[CouldBe]

Here's the principle of keyword hijacking (decoy psy-ops):

Pentagon definition of counterpropaganda-
"Any action taken to minimize the effect of hostile propaganda."

There's lots of chatter about search engines being fixed. Keywords can be misappropriated on purpose. Robot programs can be used to bump url's up the food chain. It may be tough to prove complicity by the owners of the search engines. This is not crazy out of nowhere ideas.

So any keywords that are hostile to power are not allowed to go unchallenged without competition. Benign definitions for those hostile keywords are marketed to supercede or even just dilute the reaction in our minds.

There are many ways to dilute any good message on the internet. Someone can write up some good slander. It then gets copied and pasted all over the place. Then even if the original writer gives a retraction, the slander lives on anyways and is easily retrievable through the search engines.

Caches and url's can provide good info. They can be allowed to surface and serve a point, and then at some point they can be deleted, even from the archives.

Good material can be taken off of legitemate sources. Then they can be left up at places like Jeff Rense. Then they get the tainted association with the crazy ufo stories, etc..

There are many ways that psy-ops are working the internet.

This is both most important and easiest to achieve in young minds, the younger the better. Children have formed a strong sense of in-group/out-group by age 3.

Most people don't start questioning things before they are 15-20. My opinion is that it is more difficult for young people to think freely than when we were kids. While we used to play outside, kids today have much more extensive video games. They have the internet. The Vietnam War was bad. But nothing matches the audacity of the current administration. Today's youths are being desensitized in major ways. Say twenty years ago one could time travel to the America of today, we would be like no way Jose. Bush Sr., when he went into Iraq, he set up Huseein to think he could go into Kuwait. See April Glaspie. Today, we have GW and them invading a sovereign nation based on lies. That flies in the face of what the world wars were allegedly for.

And, coincidentally, the movie-going age bracket also happens to be 14-22. Especially since the Army Research Institute (begun at Harvard in 1916) finds that young men consider joining the military at two ages, 16 and 22.

In the old days, people could see the body bags. Now we have people like Barbara Bush coming straight out telling us we shouldn't waste our minds thinking about the pain of others. Then we see people getting tazed left and right for no reason. Then you have crazy websites saying the don't taser me bro' kid is a psy-op. No. That kid was old school. He was sticking up for what is right by asking John Kerry why there is no impeachment, why did he let the election fraud go unchallenged.

[8bitagent]

The Gary Webb story is tragic. How many whistleblowers and people exposing this sort of stuff have been "found dead"?

Terrence Yeakey, a top cop in OKC about to expose the bombs he saw..

I was just rereading Webb's 'Dark Alliance' and was stunned to finally notice that there was material on pages 332-339 that suggested just why the Federal Building in Oklahoma City was rigged for demolition with the fertilizer bomb being cover.

There were probably materials there that indict GHWBush for IranContra at the very least.

I hope RI readers are reading their books, too.

Whoah, OKC 1995 is referenced as a possible inside job in Gary Webb's book????

whoah

There's this endless debate about 9/11, due to all the converging global players...(was it CIA? neocons? Mossad? ISI? Saudis?) but with
WTC 1993 and OKC 1995 Ive seen enough hardcore proof that both those were provocatuered government sting operations gone "live" on purpose.

Im guessing OKC was done to acclimate people toward the big one, and make the patriot movement look like neo Nazi terrorists.

[sunny]

THANK GOODNESS people like Naomi Wolf has fully come out for 9/11 truth, if anything to wake the left from their absolute slumber.

Whoa, I had not heard that! Do you have a link?

As for Parry, it's quite possible he took a lesson from Webb...(he of the two gunshot wound 'suicide')

Or, maybe it's because his conception of investigative journalism is old school , quite honorable but keeping his writings to what he can prove to himself and within strict parameters. Perhaps it's a simple failure of imagination.

In any case, most journalists whose work we admire, so rare and so precious!, avoid topics like MKULTRA especially if they get any play with msm venues. Yet within the context of their writings is implicit that there is more here than meets the eye. I'm not condoning this avoidance tactic but it must be said that people who are willing to put their careers and their very lives on the line in the pursuit of absolute and explicit deep dark truth are extremely rare in every walk of life. We would like to believe we would behave as we expect and hope people like Parry to behave, but who is to say we actually would?

I take his information as a small piece of the puzzle, essential to the whole but by no means the entire picture. To see what I mean, check out his article on why the Dems might lose in '08. He get's it right that the party has abdicated it's responsibility to hold Bush (Jr. and Sr., in fact)accountable, that they trade overarching principle for the possibility of concessions on domestic programs which they use in an attempt to bribe the base, and that they think they can win if they avoid offending anyone. But he ignores the voluminous evidence of complicity of the Party in much of the criminality that has occured. For a hard hitting and concise picture of the Party, check out the article by chlamor at his blog. It is the truth down to the last syllable. Think of the stink Parry could have raised by putting up such an article!

[IanEye]

Bales of Cocaine - Reverend Horton Heat

Well, I was workin' on my farm 'bout 1982,
Pullin' up some corn and a little carrot, too
When two low-flying aeroplanes, 'bout a hundred feet high
Dropped a bunch o' bales o' somethin', some hit me in the eye...

So I cut a bale open, an' man was I surprised
Bunch o' large sized baggies, with big white rocks inside
So I took a little sample to my crazy brother Joe
He sniffed it up and kicked his heels, said, "Horton, that's some blow!"

Bales of cocaine, fallin' from low-flyin' plane
I don't know who done dropped 'em, but I thank 'em just the same
Bales of cocaine, fallin' like a foriegn rain
My life changed completely by the low-flyin' planes

So I loaded up them bales in my pick-em-up truck,
Headed west for Dallas, where I would try my luck
I didn't have a notion if I could sell 'em there,
But, thirty minutes later, I was a millionaire...

Bales of cocaine, fallin' from low-flyin' plane
I don't know who done dropped 'em, but I thank 'em just the same
Bales of cocaine, fallin' like a foriegn rain
My life changed completely by the low-flyin' planes

And now I am a rich man, but I'm still a farmer, too
But I sold my farm in Texas, bought a farm down in Peru
And when get so homesick, I think I'm goin' insane,
I travel back to Texas in a low-flyin' plane...

Bales of cocaine, fallin' from low-flyin' plane
I don't know who done dropped 'em, but I thank 'em just the same
Bales of cocaine, fallin' like a foriegn rain
My life changed completely by the low-flyin' planes

Horton Heat, produced by Gibby Haynes.

And, since Gibby knew that the "brown eye sees all" and this thread was started by brownzeroed, I'm gonna drop this one on y'all as well....

Florida

Well, well I been movin' down to Florida.

And I'm gonna bowl me a perfect game.

Well I'm gonna cut off my leg down in Florida, child.

And I'm gonna dance one-legged off in the rain.

Now, they say that Sidney Poitier was a blind man.

And they say that LBJ was a Soviet Jew.

When I go down Florida Way,

They're ain't no kind of sexual healing that I would not, could not,

should

Not do, stick it right here.

Well I been movin' down to Florida.

I'm gonna potty train the chairman Mao.

I'm gonna make the governor write my doodoo a letter, child.

And I'm gonna grind me up a White Castle side out of India's sacred cow.

Well, I been movin' down Florida Way,

And I'm gonna build me the atomic bomb.

Well, I'm gonna hold time hostage down in Florida, child.

Ain't nobody, said ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do. Right here.

By this time I guess you've figured out about Florida.

Drink the muddy water in the Vaseline stain.

They be makin' tadpoles the size of Mercuries down in Florida.

That be tellin' Julio Iglesias what to sing, now.

Now, whoever said that Sidney Poitier was a blind man,

Knew the same of Elvis Presley, too.

When I go down Florida Way,

Ain't nobody, said ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do. Right here.

Well I been goin' down to Florida.

Pole cats lie naked in the Seminole sin.

When I go down Florida Way,

Like Vince, I wanna' win.

Well I went down to Florida.

I got hurt.

I took the children down to Florida.

I stuck the dick down in the dirt.

Get that boy down to Florida.

Give him a switch blade.

Tell him what to do.

[professorpan]

Like Alice Walker's 'The Color Purple' getting CIA-Spielberg-ed to cloak the LIHOP of Pearl Harbor's broken Japanese Purple code.

This proves that you are absolutely, 100%, certifiably nuts.

[Trifecta]

Actually Pan it proves jack shit. The color purple has been associated with Tokyo (formerly called Edo) since ancient times.

Keywords are used in multiple of ways to hide, hinder and obstruct. Keywords are memes that taint human thought processes. Wait until the semantic web goes mainstream, you wont have to keep responding to HMW, just run one of your semantic bot agents.

Spielberg is most certainly a gatekeeper. Not a big jump there. And if you look at how hey have buried LIHOP with pearl harbour you would understand.

IanEye, fantastic sig

[Jeff]

Getting drawn into Hugh's reveries is like entering a madhouse made of cards.

[professorpan]

Actually Pan it proves jack shit. The color purple has been associated with Tokyo (formerly called Edo) since ancient times.

Keywords are used in multiple of ways to hide, hinder and obstruct. Keywords are memes that taint human thought processes. Wait until the semantic web goes mainstream, you wont have to keep responding to HMW, just run one of your semantic bot agents.

Spielberg is most certainly a gatekeeper. Not a big jump there. And if you look at how hey have buried LIHOP with pearl harbour you would understand.

Folie a deux is alive and well, it seems.

Prove to me that "The Color Purple" or Star Trek's Captain Kirk are "keyword hijackings" related a Pearl Harbor LIHOP. Go ahead. I'll give you $250 if you can. Seriously. Prove it and I'll send you a nice check. I'll even send you $20 if you make a plausible argument backed up by facts.

Please.

And how the fuck did we get from Gary Webb to this nonsense? Oh, right. Hugh's inevitable hijacking of topics into his feverish, schizophrenic word salads. Funny how that happens.