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Postby rrapt » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:31 pm

That is a good point. You'll notice that I didn't mention reptiles in my last post, though I may have had a reptilian image in my head as I wrote.

Here's the thing; I have read in other places that certain of these alien species, including the one intent on capturing Earth for its own use, have no concept of empathy; pain, death, misfortune of other beings bothers them not a whit. And that is where I see these humanoid psychopaths fitting right in.

No I don't include reptiles like lizards and snakes and cute box turtles in this class of remorseless beings.
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Postby brainpanhandler » Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:44 pm

Joe wrote:Thanks for the links. Unfortunately wiki doesn't give details as to which language.


No doubt I am being dense, but I mean to point out that MANDA is the aboriginal language referenced.

See link: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=zma
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Postby brekin » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:15 pm

Keep bickering humans, all is going according to plan. :D

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Postby philipacentaur » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:19 pm

Useful resource, brainpanhandler. Thank you. J., check out the link there for the Romani dialects: Indo-European, Indo-Iranian, Indo-Aryan, Central zone, Romani
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Postby brainpanhandler » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:58 pm

As it turns out there is also this:


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Manda, the sinister serpent god of Mu
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http://www.angelfire.com/ego/g_saga/godzillapics.html
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Postby brainpanhandler » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:14 pm

Anyone,

Has a poll been conducted on reptilians on the RI board?

How come people don't do more polls? And how come so few people respond? I've been tempted more than a few times to start polls.
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Postby philipacentaur » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:18 pm

brainpanhandler wrote:Anyone,

Has a poll been conducted on reptilians on the RI board?

How come people don't do more polls? And how come so few people respond? I've been tempted more than a few times to start polls.


I've started a few and they've produced some interesting, if not typically frustrating discussions.
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:51 pm

Like I said, if Icke had been using the word "Satanic and evil spiritual heirarchies, non human inter dimentional intelligence" there wouldnt be such a knee jerk reaction to "Reptillians".

Thats the issue, people like to zero in on a buzzword(Reptillians) and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

David Icke not only fortold 9/11, but was one of the very first para politic researchers to expose it in 2001. His World's Biggest Secret, while tinged
with possible disinfo, touched upon what has *clearly* been going on for awhile...from the Dutrox case to the Franklin Coverup: Elite child sacrifice cults.

All the hate against Icke is unwarranted, as what meme specifically does he promote that upsets people so much?

§ê¢rꆧ wrote:The unfortunate thing in my perspective is that the rest of my co-workers could not see the difference between David Icke and, say... Peter Dale Scott. In fact they had ONLY heard of Icke and none of the more rational conspiracy research. There is much truth to this muddying the waters stuff.


I consider both heroes, and Scott and Icke are some of my top researchers and speakers.

But yeah, most "coworkers" in the world consider questioning anything we've been told to be heresy almost.
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Postby philipacentaur » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:57 pm

I wrote:
8bitagent wrote:If David Icke flat out had been using the word "Satanic" and "evil spiritual heirarchies" instead of "shape shifting lizardmen reptiles from alpha dimension 4" I wonder if people would be less prone to laugh?


I don't think it's funny at all, but if he did opt for those terms the discussion would be a bit different. He would probably also blend into an extant genre of propaganda too much for anyone to even notice.


In other words, a wise move from a marketing standpoint. Distinguish oneself from the herd.
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Postby jingofever » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:27 pm

brainpanhandler wrote:Anyone,

Has a poll been conducted on reptilians on the RI board?

How come people don't do more polls? And how come so few people respond? I've been tempted more than a few times to start polls.


Not strictly reptilian, although this covers it. A weak turnout but not everyone here is keen on this voting fad.
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Postby American Dream » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:30 pm

Here is an excerpt from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke


Contact with the spirit world

In his online autobiography, Icke writes that, in March 1990, while he was a national spokesperson for the Green Party, he received a message from the spirit world through a medium,[12] (video) identified by The Guardian as Betty Shine, a medium from Brighton.[13] She told him he was a healer who had been chosen for his courage and sent to heal the earth, and that he had been directed into football to learn discipline. He was going to leave politics and would become famous, she said, writing five books in three years, and one day there would be a great earthquake, and the "sea will reclaim land," because human beings were abusing the earth.

When Icke told the Green Party leadership what he had experienced, he was banned from speaking at public meetings on their behalf.[11] In 1991, after a trip to Peru, he wrote Truth Vibrations, an autobiographical work which summarized his life experiences up to that point, with an emphasis on his recent spiritual encounters. He began to wear only turquoise and on March 27, 1991, held a press conference to announce: "I am a channel for the Christ spirit. The title was given to me very recently by the Godhead."[14]

In an interview on the Terry Wogan show that year, he announced that he was "the son of God,"[12] and that Britain would be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes. His statements were met with laughter and ridicule from the studio audience, derision in the press, and suggestions that he was mentally ill. Icke later said that he had been misinterpreted by the media. According to Icke, he used the term "the son of God" "... in the sense of being an aspect, as I understood it at the time, of the Infinite consciousness that is everything. As I have written before, we are like droplets of water in an ocean of infinite consciousness."[15]

After being widely ridiculed, he disappeared from public view. He has written that, for several years, he was unable to walk down the street without people pointing and laughing, and that this experience helped him find the courage to develop his controversial ideas, because he was no longer afraid of what people thought of him. He told Jon Ronson:
“ One of my very greatest fears as a child was being ridiculed in public. And there it was coming true. As a television presenter, I'd been respected. People come up to you in the street and shake your hand and talk to you in a respectful way. And suddenly, overnight, this was transformed into 'Icke's a nutter'. I couldn't walk down any street in Britain without being laughed at. It was a nightmare. My children were devastated because their dad was a figure of ridicule."[16] ”

Conspiracy writings

Icke has published at least 20 books outlining his views, a mixture of New Age philosophy and apocalyptic conspiracism. American political scientist Michael Barkun, in a 2003 study of conspiracy theory subculture, writes that Icke is "the most fluent of conspiracy authors, which gives his writings a clarity rarely found in the genre."[17] His talent for communicating with people led The Observer to call him "the Greens' Tony Blair."[18]

Icke's core ideas are outlined in four books written over seven years: The Robots' Rebellion (1994), ... And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001). The basic conspiracy theory is that the world is controlled by a network of secret societies referred to as the "Brotherhood," at the apex of which stand the "Illuminati" or "Global Elite." [19] The goal of the Brotherhood is a world government, a plan that Icke says was laid out in the anti-semitic hoax, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which Icke says are really the revealed plans of the Illuminati. Icke, in common with many other conspiracy theorists, says the methods of these conspirators include control of the world's economies and the use of mind-control techniques.[19]

The Global Elite controls the Brotherhood and the world using what Icke calls a "pyramid of manipulation,"[19] consisting of sets of hierarchical structures involving banking, business, the military, education, the media, religion, drug companies, intelligence agencies, and organized crime. At the very top of the pyramid are what Icke calls the "Prison Warders," who are not human.[20] He writes that: "A pyramidal structure of human beings has been created under the influence and design of the extraterrestrial Prison Warders and their overall master, the Luciferic Consciousness. They control the human clique at the top of the pyramid, which I have dubbed the Global Elite."[20]

Icke cites the Holocaust, the Oklahoma City bombing, and the September 11, 2001 attacks as examples of events financed and organized by the Global Elite. British journalist Simon Jones writes that, according to Icke, "Ordinary people are being massively duped into believing that the ordinary course of world events are the consequence of known political forces and random, uncontrollable events. However, the course of humanity is being manipulated at every level. These individuals arrange for incidents to occur around the world, which then elicit a response from the public ('something must be done'), and in turn allows those in power to do whatever they had planned to do in the first place."[21] Icke refers to this as problem-reaction-solution,[22] a variation of Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel's "Hegelian Dialectic".

Reptilian humanoids

In 1999, Icke wrote and published The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World, in which he identified the extraterrestrial Prison Warders as reptilians from the constellation Draco.[23]They walk erect and appear to be human, living not only on the planets they come from, but also in caverns and tunnels under the earth. They have cross-bred with humans, which has created "hybrids" who are "possessed" by the full-blooded reptilians.[24] The reptiles' hybrid reptilian-human DNA allows them to change from reptilian to human form if they consume human blood. Icke has drawn parallels with the 1980s science-fiction series V, in which the earth is taken over by reptiloid aliens disguised as humans.

According to Icke, the reptilian group includes many prominent people and practically every world leader from Britain's late Queen Mother to George H.W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Harold Wilson, and Tony Blair. These people are either themselves reptilian, or work for the reptiles as what Icke calls slave-like victims of multiple personality disorder: "The Rothschilds, Rockefellers, the British royal family, and the ruling political and economic families of the U.S. and the rest of the world come from these SAME bloodlines. It is not because of snobbery, it is to hold as best they can a genetic structure — the reptilian-mammalian DNA combination which allows them to 'shape-shift'."[4]

In Tales From The Time Loop and other works, Icke states that most organized religions, especially Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, are Illuminati creations designed to divide and conquer the human race through endless conflicts. In a similar vein, Icke believes racial and ethnic divisions are an illusion promoted by the reptilians, and that racism fuels the Illuminati agenda.

Relationship with the far right

Michael Barkun, Professor of Political Science at the Maxwell School, Syracuse University, writes that Icke has moved aggressively to increase the size of his audience with the use of an elaborate website, by arranging speaking tours in the UK, North America, Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa, and by selling books and videotapes.[25]

Barkun writes that Icke has "clearly sought to cultivate the extreme right," but that the relationship is tense because of the New Age "baggage" that Icke brings with him. Barkun cites the London Evening Standard, which wrote in 1995 that: "uncanny parallels are emerging between Icke's thoughts ... and the writings of senior figures in the armed militia movement in America."[4] Barkun writes that Icke's relationship with militias and Christian Patriots is complex. On the one hand, Icke believes the Christian patriots to be the only Americans who understand the truth about the New World Order, but on the other, he allegedly told a Christian Patriot group: "I don't know which I dislike more, the world controlled by the Brotherhood, or the one you want to replace it with."[26]
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Postby slimmouse » Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:46 pm

[quote="American Dream"]Here is an excerpt from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke



After being widely ridiculed, he disappeared from public view. He has written that, for several years, he was unable to walk down the street without people pointing and laughing, and that this experience helped him find the courage to develop his controversial ideas, because he was no longer afraid of what people thought of him. He told Jon Ronson:
“ One of my very greatest fears as a child was being ridiculed in public. And there it was coming true. As a television presenter, I'd been respected. People come up to you in the street and shake your hand and talk to you in a respectful way. And suddenly, overnight, this was transformed into 'Icke's a nutter'. I couldn't walk down any street in Britain without being laughed at. It was a nightmare. My children were devastated because their dad was a figure of ridicule."[16] ”[quote/]

Ah but the moneys good. Just ask Orz.

Thanks for that article AD

If there is one thing that smacks me in the chops time and time again WRT David Icke, its this;

Why would a guy, who had a top position with the BBC suddenly surrender all of that security to wander around the world speaking to audiences of 2 and 3 people for many years, and be the subject of such fucking ridicule ?

One things for sure, the folks that call him "nuts" on here, wouldnt have half the fucking courage that Icke has displayed.

As for the idea that Icke is frightening "normal" people away from the "conspiracy culture". Thats almost as big a lie as 9/11.

Bah.

Fuck the Icke knockers.
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:01 pm

Ive long been a big alex jones fan, but Icke I find more relaxing to hear and his message of love is good.

The "armed christian patriot millitia" mindset of the 90's, the left wing activists, anti war folks, Icke fans, etc could all be considered in the same boat...since they all talk about a global elite controlling the planet.

I think Icke just comes from more a place of love than confrontation. If Icke's talks in America werent in obscure mountain new age retreats for $200 a pop, I'd love to hear him speak...as his stuff from Brixton Academy on video google I find quite good.

It's just too bad the full length Icke documentaries seem to be creepy half disinfo films by the(from what everyone says) shady Enigma Tv.
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Postby brainpanhandler » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:07 pm

Why would a guy, who had a top position with the BBC suddenly surrender all of that security to wander around the world speaking to audiences of 2 and 3 people for many years, and be the subject of such fucking ridicule ?



Because he's nuts?
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:46 pm

brainpanhandler wrote:
Joe wrote:Thanks for the links. Unfortunately wiki doesn't give details as to which language.


No doubt I am being dense, but I mean to point out that MANDA is the aboriginal language referenced.

See link: http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=zma


I had never heard of it, I think however that its a sub group of this mob.


BTW I think I was being dense. Either way its all good. Nice pick of Mu Manda too.
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