More Proof Why Yelling "Nazi" Isn't Helpful

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Postby Searcher08 » Thu May 15, 2008 6:27 pm

unaltered wrote:
Searcher08 wrote:You mean all the way... to nomo and back?

Do you consider this a fascist hate site?

If so, I suggest you contact the site owner Jeff Wells, with documented instances of anti-Semitism and order him to include it in the terms and conditions and tell him if he doesnt, this PROVES he is a hate-filled VIRULENT anti-Semite and you will arrange for the ADL to prosecute him and send him to jail.


It's not the site which is repeating fascist, hate site talking points; merely individuals and few at that. I certainly have never seen Jeff do so.


For Jeff to allow anti-Semitic individuals to have a platform on this site to spew forth their hate-filled views indicates this IS a hate site and ergo Jeff is a VIRULENT anti-Semite and that indicates that the site should be shut down and he should be prosecuted under Canadian hate crimes law.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu May 15, 2008 6:30 pm

1. "Nazism" is a complex charge, as we're seeing today. Many accuse Israel of being Nazis. But then you see neo Nazis who adore Hitler, and many Islamic extremists in Europe joining up to spread hatred. Nazis and Islamic extremism have long been not only interlocked, but the tools of the globalist elite to divide and spread hate

2. Many people don't truly see what's going on in Iraq or Iran.
Its "US lied, then screwed up to go to Iraq"
or "US is going to attack Iran"

The truth of the matter is more complex, and shocking. I see evidence the US is secretly working with Iran, especially in Iraq(much to the chagrin of Saudi Arabia, who is in bed with the US)

US is in bed with Pakistan, whom Israel is secretly in bed with; meanwhile Israel funds India. This is how the NWO works. All interlocking.
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Postby sunny » Thu May 15, 2008 6:32 pm

unaltered wrote:It's not the site which is repeating fascist, hate site talking points; merely individuals and few at that. I certainly have never seen Jeff do so.


You ARE accusing Jeff of allowing anti-semitism on his site.

We are an anti-fascist site above all. Hatred of Jews is not permitted and individuals who have shown such hatred have been banned numerous times in the past.

I want to know NOW-who SPECIFICALLY on this site are you, nomo, orz et al accusing of anti-semitism?

I want names. I want specific citations of the comments, with links.

Otherwise, cease and desist with this constant barrage of hateful accusations.
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Postby Searcher08 » Thu May 15, 2008 6:40 pm

sunny wrote:
unaltered wrote:It's not the site which is repeating fascist, hate site talking points; merely individuals and few at that. I certainly have never seen Jeff do so.


You ARE accusing Jeff of allowing anti-semitism on his site.

We are an anti-fascist site above all. Hatred of Jews is not permitted and individuals who have shown such hatred have been banned numerous times in the past.

I want to know NOW-who SPECIFICALLY on this site are you, nomo, orz et al accusing of anti-semitism?

I want names. I want specific citations of the comments, with links.

Otherwise, cease and desist with this constant barrage of hateful accusations.


I'm really pissed with this, sunny
As someone with Jewish family, who has actually put *himself* between a Rabbi who was about to get the shite kicked out of him by a group of four NeoNazi thugs on the Tube in London (btw the ONLY incident of anti-Semitism I have ever witnessed in London), frankly hearing these whiny Zionist propagandists spew their ill-disguised Uber-Zionist crap -

I would like to make an suggestion to the rules
1 This board is not a racist site and people who smear ANY race are not welcome here. Any member who has detected racist or anti-Semitic posts is asked to contact a Moderator, with a link
2 Anyone who says another member is a racist or anti-Semite will be expected to provide a reference to that. If they do not supply a link, they will have the option of apologising or being suspended.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu May 15, 2008 6:40 pm

It's downright frightening how anti Jewry has spread worldwide, from the
far left and moderate left to the far right.
Neo Nazis, Muslim extremists, Intellectuals, Nobel Peace winners, anti war groups, heads of state in England, Germany, etc.

It almost feels like the global NWO has engineered Israel to be focus for everyone's hate, while making them oppress the Palestinians. It's all part of the end times plan:

1. Capitalize on anti Jewry in WW2 to paramount status through Nazi Germany and Muslim Brotherhood/Grand Mufti forces.

2. Use the destruction of the Jews through bombing and the holocaust to
get the West to create the new state of Israel

3. Get Israel from the Ringworm experiments to brutal enslavement of Palestinians to be the poster child of evil

4. Change anti Jewry to be shielded by "criticism of Israel"

5. Flame the flames of extreme anti Jewry in the Muslim, Intellectual, Far Right, and Moderate Left and Far left, as well as the regular Right.

Now a Jewish family in Europe can't go anywhere without being spit on
by people, as somehow in Europe Jews are the accepted target...

WHILE in America, "evil Muslim immigrants" are the target. In parts of Europe, like Germany, immigrant "Pakis" and others are still targets...but we're seeing more and more bridging of the extremist elements of Islamic groups siding with the Neo Nazi brand.

Evil Jew. Evil Muslim. Evil this evil that.

Hate is the tool of the globalists. They use it in corporation/government backed militias to slaughter countless innocents. They use it in China to slaughter Tibetans, as well as Myanmar. They use it in Indonesia.

The global elite is behind all the war, all the impetus of conditions that stir up the hate, all the "Islamic terrorism"...it's total Hegelian dialectic.

Yet people fall into biases...they become so anti Israel, that all they can focus on is hating Israel and the West, without seeing that all governments are evil. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, North Korea, China, etc.

OR they become so pro American hegemony, pro neocon, pro Israel that
the "Muslims" are the biggest threat.

Wake up people. It's all divide and conquer.
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Postby unaltered » Thu May 15, 2008 7:01 pm

sunny wrote:
unaltered wrote:It's not the site which is repeating fascist, hate site talking points; merely individuals and few at that. I certainly have never seen Jeff do so.


You ARE accusing Jeff of allowing anti-semitism on his site.

We are an anti-fascist site above all. Hatred of Jews is not permitted and individuals who have shown such hatred have been banned numerous times in the past.

I want to know NOW-who SPECIFICALLY on this site are you, nomo, orz et al accusing of anti-semitism?

I want names. I want specific citations of the comments, with links.

Otherwise, cease and desist with this constant barrage of hateful accusations.


Zipping my mouth fingers and mind. Hope that helps.
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Postby stickdog99 » Thu May 15, 2008 7:45 pm

Searcher08 wrote:
unaltered wrote:
Searcher08 wrote:You mean all the way... to nomo and back?

Do you consider this a fascist hate site?

If so, I suggest you contact the site owner Jeff Wells, with documented instances of anti-Semitism and order him to include it in the terms and conditions and tell him if he doesnt, this PROVES he is a hate-filled VIRULENT anti-Semite and you will arrange for the ADL to prosecute him and send him to jail.


It's not the site which is repeating fascist, hate site talking points; merely individuals and few at that. I certainly have never seen Jeff do so.


For Jeff to allow anti-Semitic individuals to have a platform on this site to spew forth their hate-filled views indicates this IS a hate site and ergo Jeff is a VIRULENT anti-Semite and that indicates that the site should be shut down and he should be prosecuted under Canadian hate crimes law.

Yes, indeed. And just wait until we bring the Irish ADL in on this!

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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu May 15, 2008 8:15 pm

8bitagent, I haven't read such a pack of horse-feathers since...one of your other wacked-out stabs at 'analysis'.

Just one excerpt:

Now a Jewish family in Europe can't go anywhere without being spit on by people, as somehow in Europe Jews are the accepted target..


Are you talking about the continent of Europe that is on Planet Earth?

If so, have you checked your meds lately?

If you'll condescend to provide a shred of evidence for this one outrageous statement, I'll make a herculean effort to ignore all your other, equally outrageous statements. Ah, who am I kidding. You won't, and I'll still ignore them. Life is too short...

On edit:

Hey, nomo! Look at 8bit's post! Since you're such a keen hunter of hyperbole (even where it does not exist), here's a treat. 8bitagent's posted a big, juicy pile of it. Sic him. Go on, boy.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu May 15, 2008 8:20 pm

Alice, are you saying anti Jewry isnt being preached on satellite tv and mosques worldwide? And Im not talking criticism of Israel or anti Zionism, but "death to the Jews" type stuff.

My point is we see the Western media and average public demonizing Muslims, while overseas the Jews are being demonized...while the US, British and other governments are in bed with both Israel and the most oppressive of Islamic regimes.

Thankfully most Muslims, Christians, and just average folk aren't buying too much into the hateful propaganda from either side...just quite unfortunate people are easily influenced.

See folks, if you condemn all radicalism, not just Zionism...well then you're just a pile of horse feathers:)
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Postby Searcher08 » Thu May 15, 2008 8:32 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:8bitagent, I haven't read such a pack of horse-feathers since...one of your other wacked-out stabs at 'analysis'.

Just one excerpt:

Now a Jewish family in Europe can't go anywhere without being spit on by people, as somehow in Europe Jews are the accepted target..


Are you talking about the continent of Europe that is on Planet Earth?

If so, have you checked your meds lately?

If you'll condescend to provide a shred of evidence for this one outrageous statement, I'll make a herculean effort to ignore all your other, equally outrageous statements. Ah, who am I kidding. You won't, and I'll still ignore them. Life is too short...

On edit:

Hey, nomo! Look at 8bit's post! Since you're such a keen hunter of hyperbole (even where it does not exist), here's a treat. 8bitagent's posted a big, juicy pile of it. Sic him. Go on, boy.



Glad to see all the information about your widely different learning styles has made such a difference, Alice

Do you actually think that new ideas come from analysis?

Neurological and cognitive diversity. Try it sometime. You might like it.
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu May 15, 2008 8:34 pm

Alice, are you saying anti Jewry isnt being preached on satellite tv and mosques worldwide?


First, that's not what you said. Don't try to backtrack now, or I'll revise my opinion of you from "flaky" to "sleazy". You made a specific, outrageous statement that I quoted, and I asked you to back it up. Do so, admit that it was a crazy misrepresentation of reality, or reveal yourself to be a rotten egg.

Second, you've obviously been getting too much of your dis-information from MEMRI. Didn't your mother ever tell you that stuff eats holes in your brain?
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Postby Searcher08 » Thu May 15, 2008 8:47 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:
Alice, are you saying anti Jewry isnt being preached on satellite tv and mosques worldwide?


First, that's not what you said. Don't try to backtrack now, or I'll revise my opinion of you from "flaky" to "sleazy". You made a specific, outrageous statement that I quoted, and I asked you to back it up. Do so, admit that it was a crazy misrepresentation of reality, or reveal yourself to be a rotten egg.

Second, you've obviously been getting too much of your dis-information from MEMRI. Didn't your mother ever tell you that stuff eats holes in your brain?


Try Evening Primrose Oil
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu May 15, 2008 8:51 pm

searcher said:

Glad to see all the information about your widely different learning styles has made such a difference, Alice

Do you actually think that new ideas come from analysis?


Do they come from someone else telling you what to believe via declarative statements of 'fact' (historical and otherwise) based on ignorance, lies and distortions?

Contrary to your assumptions, I'm all for neurological and cognitive diversity: but when it comes to making a case, I do prefer conclusions to be based on logic and solid evidence. Otherwise, we're just, um, pleasing ourselves. You know. :oops:
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu May 15, 2008 8:57 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:
Alice, are you saying anti Jewry isnt being preached on satellite tv and mosques worldwide?


First, that's not what you said. Don't try to backtrack now, or I'll revise my opinion of you from "flaky" to "sleazy". You made a specific, outrageous statement that I quoted, and I asked you to back it up. Do so, admit that it was a crazy misrepresentation of reality, or reveal yourself to be a rotten egg.

Second, you've obviously been getting too much of your dis-information from MEMRI. Didn't your mother ever tell you that stuff eats holes in your brain?


MEMRI, Simon Wisenthal Center, The US government websites, etc are in fact promoting a focus on virulent anti Semetism in Europe. Absolutely, MEMRI along with IntelCenter and all these other military industrial cutouts have a keen interest on pushing the "Muslims=extremists meme".

However, when we look at who is promoting violent hatred of Jews across Europe, it's neo Nazi BNP(Germany) and radical clerics who are German BND, British MI5/MI6 and other intelligence backed assets.

Absolutely there's a heightened climate of intimidation toward Jews in many European countries, to where previously the Pakistani and Turkish immigrants felt it(in England and Germany especially)

When I see images of radical Belgium, British and French clerics and imans taking to streets with megaphones "preaching Jihad", to me that looks like the work of intelligence.
I believe the global elite is fueling the hatred of both Muslim immigrants and Jews, and getting everyone to fight.

I share, deeply, in Alice's much welcomed exposure of the severe crimes against humanity Israel has committed...I'm just hoping Alice can shine that spotlight on other oppressive nations, in both Asia, the Middle East, etc.
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu May 15, 2008 9:01 pm

searcher said:
Try Evening Primrose Oil


Figures. A woman demands logic and facts in an argument, and it must be 'that time of the month'. We're all hysterics, you know, 'hysteria' being derived from the Greek word for 'womb'.

First I'm Mr. Spock, now I'm Scarlett.

Whatever.

8bit, I'm still waiting. Which is it to be: sorry or sleazy?
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