The Collapse of Preconquest Consciousness

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The Collapse of Preconquest Consciousness

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:49 am

This is from the central section of a long and fascinating essay by the anthropologist E. Richard Sorenson. His account of the collapse stands alone (it should have classic status), but it's his description of the "preconquest consciousness" preceding it that makes this section so plausible, and so painful to read.

I'm posting it here as a kind of indirect reply to some of the things being said in another thread about "intelligence" versus "religion".

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Collapse of Preconquest Consciousness

The time-of-troubles in New Guinea was regional. In smaller preconquest isolates such disorders were sometimes confined to single tiny islands, even villages, even segments of the village population (e.g., teenagers often seemed particularly susceptible). Nonetheless in all cases the subtlest affect exchanges faded first with intuitive rapport going into irreversible collapse much later.

After loss of intuitive rapport, the sensually empathetic instincts governing sociosensual nurture became cruder and were less often on-the-mark. In large regions a grand cultural amnesia sometimes accompanied this collapse. Whole populations would forget even recent past events and make gross factual errors in reporting them. In some cases they even forgot what type and style of garments they had worn a few years earlier or (in New Guinea) that they had been using stone axes and eating their dead close relatives a few years back. Initially I thought they were dissimulating in an effort to ingratiate or appear up-to-date, but rejected this thought almost immediately. They were simply too unassuming and open in other respects for such a theory to hold up. And when I showed photographs I’d taken a few years earlier, they would brighten up, laugh, and eagerly call their friends as they excitedly began relating their reviving recollections.

The periods of anomie sometimes alternated with spates of wild excitement leading to a strange mixture of excess and restraint.19 It was during such disorders that abstract concepts of rights, property, and possession began emerging. So did formal names for people, groups, and places. These were then used argumentatively in defense of rights, property, and possessions. Negative emotions were applied to strengthen argument. Eventually they became structural aspects of society. As the art of political manipulation emerged, the selfless unity that seemed so firm and self-repairing in their isolated enclaves vanished like a summer breeze as a truth-based type of consciousness gave way to one that lied to live.

A similar type of turmoil and transformation began occurring on small islands in the eastern Sea of Andaman somewhat after the Vietnam War.

South East Asia was then rapidly developing economically, and the dazzling scenery, fine beaches, and crystal waters of many of those islands attracted an explosively abrupt tourism trade. As it gathered pace, the intuitive rapport that was still extant on many islands first began to waver, then to oscillate. In some cases a half-way house adjustment would occur, and then another, both without serious psychological disability. However, in cases of accelerated change, a whirlwind psychological debility would sometimes suddenly break loose. The following, abstracted from my field notes, is a firsthand description of one such case:

I’m out, back from the Andaman where I’ve just been through an experience I’ll not soon forget. Only by pure chance did I happen to be there when their extraordinary intuitive mentality gave up the ghost right in front of me, in an inconceivable overwhelming week. I’m almost wrecked myself, in a strange anomie from having gone through that at too close a range, and from staying up all night too many times to try to understand just what was going on. I never was much good at keeping research distance, always feeling more could be learned close in. And I’d come straight into the Andaman from two months of tantric philosophical inquiry in a Tibetan monastery. Perhaps that tuned awareness up a notch too much.

There really was no way to have predicted that, just after I arrived, the acute phase of their ancient culture’s death would start. To speak abstractly of the death of a way-of-life is a simple thing to do. To experience it is quite another thing. I’ve seen nothing in the lore of anthropology that might prepare one for the speed by which it can occur, or for the overwhelming psychic onslaughts it throws out. Nor does my profession forewarn of those communicable paroxysms that hover in the air which, without warning, strike down with overwhelming force, when a culture’s mind gives way.

Yet this is just what happened when the traditional rapport of those islands was undone, when the subtle sensibility of each to one another was abruptly seared away in a sudden unpredicted, unprecedented, uncognated whirlwind. In a single crucial week a spirit that all the world would want, not just for themselves but for all others, was lost, one that had taken millennia to create. It was suddenly just gone.

Epidemic sleeplessness, frenzied dance throughout the night, reddening burned-out eyes getting narrower and more vacant as the days and nights wore on, dysphasias of various sorts, sudden mini-epidemics of spontaneous estrangement, lacunae in perception, hyperkinesis, loss of sensuality, collapse of love, impotence, bewildered frantic looks like those on buffalo in India just as they’re clubbed to death; 14 year olds (and others) collapsing on the beach, under houses, on the pier, in beached boats as well as those tied up at the dock, here and there,into wee hours of the morn, even on through dawn, in acute inebriation or exhaustion. Such was the general scene that week, a week that no imagination could have forewarned, the week in which the subtle sociosensual glue of the island’s traditional way-of-life became unstuck.

To pass through the disintegrating social enclaves was to undergo a rain of psychic blows, a pelting shower of harrowing awarenesses that raised goose flesh of unexpected types on different epidermal sites along with other kinds of crawlings of flesh and skin. There were sudden rushes, both cold and hot, down the head and chest and across the neck, even in the legs and feet. And deep inside, often near the solar plexus, or around heart, or in the head or throat, new indescribable sensations would spontaneously arise, leave one at a loss or deeply disconcerted.

Such came and then diffused away as one passed by different people. Sensations would abruptly wash in across the consciousness, trigger moods of awe, or of sinking, sometimes of extraordinary love, sometimes utter horror. From time-to-time nonspecific elemental impulses arose just to run or dance, to throw oneself about, to move. All these could be induced and made to fade and then come back, just by passing through some specific group, departing, and then returning, or by coming near a single friend, moving off and coming back. That this was possible so astonished me that I checked and checked and checked again.

Such awarenesses, repeatedly experienced, heap up within the brain. Eventually the accumulation left me almost as sleepless and night-kinetic as they had become. I did discover that with body motion, mind becomes less preoccupied within itself, therefore less distressed. With kinetic frenzy mind-honor lessens very much. But it left them exhausted during the day, somnambulant, somewhat zombie-like. When night returned, the cycle would re-begin, as if those nocturnal hours, when they would otherwise be sleeping, were the time of greatest stress.

Though the overt frenzied movements could be observed by anyone, the psychic states that so powerfully impelled them were not easily detectable to outsiders. It seemed as if one had to have some personal rapport within the lifeway before the mental anguish could be sensed. Then it would loom, sometimes overwhelm. One Westerner looking casually on said, ‘How exotic to see these uneducated types staying up throughout the night, dancing strangely, relating to each other in nonproductive ways. This place must be an anthropological paradise: Tourists happening on the scene thought it a fillip to their holiday. Intimacy and affection seem prerequisite to connecting with these inner surges of human psyche, even overwhelming ones.

Eventually I retreated, mentally exhausted, cognitively benumbed, emotionally wrung out. I tried to thwart that siege (when I finally recognized it for what it really was) by getting key people out. A useless foolish gambit; for no one would leave the spot, as if they were welded to it, as if it held some precious thing they very greatly loved, which they neither would nor could abandon.

When the mental death had run its course, when what had been was gone, the people (physically still quite alive) no longer had their memory of the intuitive rapport that held them rapturously together just the week before, could no longer link along those subtle mental pathways. What had filled their lives had vanished. The teensters started playing at (and then adopting) the rude, antagonistic, ego-grasping styles of the encroaching modern world, modeled after films and then TV. Oldsters retreated into houses, lost their affinity to youngsters, who then turned more to one another, sometimes squabbling (which did not occur before).

It seems astonishing that the inner energy of such passings is so undetectable to minds not some way linked to the inner harmonies and ardors of the place. Research-distance yields abstractions like ‘going amok,’ which could have been easily applied that week, or ‘revitalizing movement,’ which also could have been (in a perverse kind of way). It seems that only by some mental coalescence with the local lifeway can one access its deeper psychic passions, not just those of adolescence, but graver ones like those which for a time were released in inconceivable profusion, when the collective subtle mind of the islands, built up over eons, was snuffed out.


Similar processes, perhaps not always so dramatic, seem to occur when any domineering or abstractly focused alien culture (whether Western, Sinic, Indic, or Islamic) impacts on a preconquest people. To the degree that the in-depth readjustment requires new relationships between the awareness and manipulation centers in the cerebral cortex and the centers of emotion in the mid and lower brains, they represent physiological as well as psychological change and therefore raise important questions about the promise and condition of the state of humankind.

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http://anthropik.com/vault/sorenson-preconquest/
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Postby Penguin » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:57 pm

Thanks, this was interesting.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:12 pm

Glad you bumped it, Penguin.

Thing about this "preconquest consciousness" (see the earlier part of the essay, which I didn't quote): It reminds me of my own childhood. It reminds me of good football games I've played in. It reminds me of good theatre companies I've worked with. It reminds me of any really good party or dinner-party at an advanced hour.

In other words, it's recoverable, at least temporarily and at least to some extent. "It" being telepathy. Unmanipulative instant non-verbal communication of intent.

Another word for it is "life". Or "love", if you prefer. (But these days, "love" usually implies manipulation.)
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Postby blanc » Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:59 am

very interesting info. McC, thanks for posting
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Postby erosoplier » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:00 am

Thanks very much MacCruiskeen.

Part of me recognises that this is extraordinarily important - this is The Fall he is talking about. But the other part of me sits here like my usual (and increasingly, I often fear) stunned-mullet self, not quite knowing what to do with this information.

Must I go all the way, deep into to the New Guinea highlands to see the consequences of the collapse of preconquest consciousness being played out, I wonder?
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:19 am

erosoplier wrote:Must I go all the way, deep into to the New Guinea highlands to see the consequences of the collapse of preconquest consciousness being played out, I wonder?


I don't think so, erosoplier. You can also observe it in schools and kindergartens, unfortunately. (Decreasingly so, though, at least in this part of the world.) When my own kid started pre-school, I remember being struck by how some - a few - of the other children had dead eyes (I can't put it any other way), even at such a very early age. They just looked broken. And they were invariably the ones who would eventually be diagnosed as either "painfully shy" or "chronically disruptive".
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Postby Searcher08 » Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:27 am

Thank you very much for that, Mac

It left me wondering about the place the tribe was in, and if something had happened in terms of a structure that was there , that had not been before....

This piece resonated with the stories of the communities in 1960's UK who were existing in squalid Victorian era terraced housing, often with outside toilets, no washing machines etc. There was, however, a very strong community spirit, with the kids playing in the street, often under the eyes of the grandparents etc.

The councils then went on a demolition rampage, creating hundreds of tower blocks across the UK. Within just a few weeks of moving into the bright shiny buildings, equipped with washing machines, stunning views etc, the community had fractured - young people became intimidatory, leading to less contact with old folks leading to them staying indoors in what became high-rise prisons....
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:46 am

It left me wondering about the place the tribe was in, and if something had happened in terms of a structure that was there , that had not been before....


Searcher, he's talking about the Andaman islands sometime in the early 70s, and he says:

the dazzling scenery, fine beaches, and crystal waters of many of those islands attracted an explosively abrupt tourism trade.
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Postby Searcher08 » Sat Jun 14, 2008 12:39 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
It left me wondering about the place the tribe was in, and if something had happened in terms of a structure that was there , that had not been before....


Searcher, he's talking about the Andaman islands sometime in the early 70s, and he says:

the dazzling scenery, fine beaches, and crystal waters of many of those islands attracted an explosively abrupt tourism trade.


Sorry, that was really unclear of me. I meant if there had been, for the tribe described, a physical structure that the tribe had to interact with that they had not before - at one extreme a new hotel at the edge of their territory - at the other extreme perhaps a provisions store or garage within the tribes boundaries. It sounds like there are "catastrophe" type phenomenon happening.
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Postby Penguin » Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:19 pm

MacCruiskeen wrote:
I don't think so, erosoplier. You can also observe it in schools and kindergartens, unfortunately. (Decreasingly so, though, at least in this part of the world.) When my own kid started pre-school, I remember being struck by how some - a few - of the other children had dead eyes (I can't put it any other way), even at such a very early age. They just looked broken. And they were invariably the ones who would eventually be diagnosed as either "painfully shy" or "chronically disruptive".


Ive worked with children and yes, I saw it often. Most kids around 5-6, 7 at latest, start to lose that magic glimmer and wonder and touch they have...When they start to integrate the ways of our misshapen world.

Loss of natural telepathic empathic abilities, as part of rigor mortis of social conformation. Once I was happy to witness two 4 year olds, a girl and a boy, tell each other after a day nap, how they both had shared the same dream, about each other. Playing in the dream and them explaining with laughing eyes what they did in it.
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Postby erosoplier » Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:42 pm

The trouble is, this thing which we [sense that we] have lost, which we train out of our children, this "participatory mode of being," also seems to be the thing which stops real change from occurring on the political front. We might want the world to wake up, throw Bush in jail, and start telling the MIC how things are going to be from now on, but what stops this from happening is that masses of people are too busy trying to cling on to the hollow shells of participatory-being left to them.

From getting plastered on the weekends, to watching the TV news each evening, participatory being really is still the rule rather than the exception - it's the life that goes on when you thought you were busy making plans. (I mean, why else would people turn up to political rallies, if not to lose their identity in them, while at the same time finding a greater identity?)
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Postby Uncle $cam » Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:15 am

This looks interesting...

perhaps, it needs it's own thread, but it does seem to fit here.

Troubled Times
A short summary of the cultural problems faced by the modern world.


Shattering the Sacred Myths
http://www.evolutionary-metaphysics.net ... times.html

When you have an open debate between conflicting points of view, the defenders of each viewpoint are pressured into presenting their best possible arguments. But those who cannot defend their beliefs have nothing to gain from an open debate. Their best strategy is to silence any opposition whenever their point of view is challenged.

Our world has a long history of political and religious extremists using violence to force their beliefs upon others. Even in the modern democratic world where freedom of speech has become an almost sacred right, this freedom is far from assured when it comes to matters of religion.

The reason why freedom of speech is so important is because the truth is more likely to be discovered if people have an opportunity to listen to every argument and decide for themselves. The only kind of truth that is really worth defending is the kind that can withstand criticism, and the kind that we can believe in without being forced to.

The following may not be true for everybody, but why should we let the truth stand in the way of a good story.

Ancient mythmakers

There was a time in the dark past when peace and prosperity were regularly interrupted by conquest and destruction. Invading armies and bandits raided towns and villages, slaughtering the inhabitants, and sometimes carrying the survivors away as slaves. Revenge was the prevailing form of justice in a world where human life had little value.

Peasant farmers and villagers struggled through hardship to raise their families. They shared stories around the fire at night and sang songs about the adventures of legendary heroes. Their priests held sacrifices and prayed to the gods for plentiful harvests and good fortune in war. Myths about the gods and legends about heroes helped to inspire a common sense of honesty, loyalty, and bravery.

A detailed recording of history began in some parts of the world around three thousand years ago as the development of alphabetic writing allowed written words to flow as freely and with almost as much meaning and emotion as spoken words. The first significant works of literature began to appear in the emerging civilizations of Israel, Greece, Persia, and India.

Alphabetic writing gave innovative scribes an opportunity to rework the best of their old myths and legends and weave them together to form long and detailed national histories and other stories about the origins of humankind and our relationship to the gods.

The great responsibility that weighed upon these ancient scribes was to convince their people to have faith in universal ideas of right and wrong, and to develop in them a commitment to social justice, and a sense of duty to work towards the welfare and survival of the community.

Greek poets wrote that the gods would favor the good while raining misfortune down upon the wicked. Jewish prophets wrote that the god of creation would punish sinners and bring about the destruction of wicked nations. They believed that messengers would continue to be sent to teach them right from wrong.

Persian prophets described the final day at the end of time when the dead would rise up from their graves to be judged for their deeds. The righteous would rest comfortably in heaven and the wicked would be cast into hell to burn for eternity. Hindu scribes demanded obedience by threatening reincarnation as a slave or a farm animal.

In the absence of anything better, these writings offered believable explanations. They gave the struggling farmers and villagers a reason for wholesome living and hope for a better future. The best of these writings survived the hostility of ancient priests and gained the favor of kings. As they were handed down through the generations, they grew in authority to become sacred scriptures.

Religions helped to hold kingdoms and empires together under a common understanding of existence. Those who believed in the myths and embraced the moral lessons would be less motivated by selfishness and more committed to community and family values. Empires might fall into decline, but the minds of the masses would continue to be united by their ancient religious scriptures.

As the centuries passed, corrupt priesthoods maintained an iron grip on power by silencing any ideas that were contradictory to their teachings. Tyrants used religion as an excuse to enslave and destroy. But many common folk were strengthened by their faith, resisting the temptation to descend into savagery. They were inspired to remain honest and caring in an otherwise cruel and deceptive world.

Scientific discovery

Before the year 1450, books were rare and few people knew how to read. Many received their understanding of the world through the teachings of priests. Things suddenly changed with the invention of the printing press in Europe. Writers could now share their ideas with people who previously could not afford to read because they could not afford the price of a hand copied book. Common knowledge grew rapidly as books were made available on a growing range of subjects.

Modern science began in the 1600s with the invention of the telescope and the idea of gravity to explain the motion of the planets around the sun. People were able to see for the first time that the earth was not the center of the universe. Religious explanations would now be increasingly replaced by scientific ones. Some writers began to openly criticize religious beliefs.

Traditional religion suffered its most serious blow in the 1860s with the widespread acceptance of the theory of evolution. Skeptics could now prove that the creation stories contained in the old religious scriptures were nothing more than ancient myths. But not everybody was convinced by evolution. Many supporters of religion feared that if people lost faith in religious myths then they might also lose interest in community and family values.

Science has seriously weakened religion, and now some people claim that only science can show us the truth. But science by itself has nothing inspiring to say about important human values like love, justice, compassion, or goodness. According to a purely scientific view of the world, our loved ones are little more than sacks of protein, and our love for them is just an electro-chemical impulse in our brain.

Science can demonstrate the relative advantage of some types of behavior, but it cannot judge any behavior to be either right or wrong. If we depended only on science to guide our thoughts and actions, then we would have no reason to be caring, sharing, or honest unless we had something to gain. Many of those who believe only in science say that life has no purpose, and that our existence is nothing more than an accident of nature.

Industrial revolution

By the mid 1800s, consumer goods were being mass produced in steam powered factories and shipped around the world by steam powered trains and ships. Steam power was soon replaced by petrol engines and electric motors. A new age of modern conveniences and technological wizardry had begun.

In only a few hundred years, industry has grown to become the most powerful force on the planet, and now the market economy dictates human behavior. Greed and ambition are the driving forces behind success in the business world.

The winners are the corporate raiders who take over the boardrooms of public companies, plundering the assets and pocketing millions at the expense of company employees and small shareholders. The losers are the poor working class families who struggle to buy bread. The least fortunate become victims of debt, unemployment, poverty, relationship breakdown, loneliness, drug and alcohol abuse, and crime. Many workers around the world struggle to earn barely enough to buy food and shelter while they raise the next generation of industrial slaves.

The market economy creates its own set of values. Many of us now judge our progress through life not by the growth of our character or by the maturity of our understanding, but rather by our possessions; by the cars, houses, and luxury items that we obtain. Under increasing pressure to succeed, many workers now sacrifice friendships and family relationships, seeing them as obstacles to the pursuit of a career.

Modern democratic culture

The emergence of democracy around the world has given people the power to protest against oppression. Progressive governments are continually reforming the laws to satisfy the changing needs of the people and provide a fairer system of justice. A new culture has emerged in the democratic world that promotes freedom of choice, equal opportunity, and respect for human rights. And this new way of thinking has resulted in a more caring and tolerant society.

Newspapers, television networks, and other forms of mass media have embraced these new values. And by comparison, some of the old religious morals now seem oppressive and backwards. And while some people, especially the older generations, cling to the old ways of thinking, their children are now learning new ideas about right and wrong from watching commercial television and listening to popular music.

But the entertainment industry is driven by the pursuit of profits without being restrained by any real sense of social responsibility. While celebrating increasing freedom from religious morality, low quality productions compete to stretch the bounds of social acceptability. The mass media has become a reflection of human greed, ego, hatred, and perversity. Some people see the cutting edge of modern culture as being an unashamed glorification of sex and violence.

The Internet provides a powerful alternative to government propaganda and corporate media brainwashing. An unrestricted channel of communication has been opened, and now people have cheap instant access to ideas and information that they could never have discovered before. But much of the Internet is like a digital sewer full of unfiltered misinformation and pornography. Some people see it as being symptomatic of the unhealthy condition of modern thinking.

Confusion

Many of those who live in modern societies are now abandoning their traditional religious beliefs and adopting a more materialistic outlook on life. In the absence of any believable explanation for human existence, many now believe that there is nothing worth believing in. Without any purpose or meaning to their lives, many are descending into despair and depression. Without any clear vision for the future of the world, the nations are continuing to prepare for war.

Amid growing fear and anxiety, religious conservatives are gaining political power around the world. They do not want their children growing up without hope for the future, to become another generation whose only sense of self worth is their physical appearance or their possessions, and whose only purpose is to stimulate the pleasure centers in their brains. They do not want their children growing up to become too selfish, confused, and immature to be able to successfully raise their own families.

But for many people, the old religious myths are no longer believable and the old religious morality is no longer acceptable. And ancient religious rivalries are plunging the world into a new age of war and terror. American forces have launched a campaign to democratize the Middle East, while Islamic extremists are waging a holy war against modern democratic values. We wait for the next attack, possibly the detonation of a nuclear bomb. And we watch helplessly as our politicians bumble their way through one world crisis after the next.

Hope

Most of us are still being confused by beliefs that have long lost their value, and there is now a desperate need to provide clearer explanations of the issues that give meaning to our lives.

Like in the days of the ancient mythmakers, recent discoveries and new technologies have provided an unprecedented opportunity to take the best of our existing historical narratives and scientific explanations and carefully weave them together to craft a more enlightened understanding of our existence that is more suitable for the times in which we live.

In the hope of bringing some clarity into this confused world, this book was written to offer a realistic and convincing explanation of our place in the universe, hopefully crafted well enough to restore the faith of those who believe, and to give faith to those who do not yet believe, that our world may be progressing towards a peaceful, prosperous, and rational future.
Suffering raises up those souls that are truly great; it is only small souls that are made mean-spirited by it.
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The Collapse of Preconquest Consciousness

Postby wolf ticket » Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:04 pm

Fascinating and tragic story. A few of his comments raised flags in my mind:

"Only by pure chance did I happen to be there when their extraordinary intuitive mentality gave up the ghost right in front of me . . ."

"I never was much good at keeping research distance . . ."

"There really was no way to have predicted that, just after I arrived, the acute phase of their ancient culture’s death would start . . . "


For me, these comments beg the question whether Sorenson's lack or "research distance" influenced in some way the breakdown he was witnessing.

Just a thought.
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Re: The Collapse of Preconquest Consciousness

Postby alwyn » Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:24 pm

wolf ticket wrote:
For me, these comments beg the question whether Sorenson's lack or "research distance" influenced in some way the breakdown he was witnessing.

Just a thought.


Interesting case of the observer acting upon the observed, if that is so.

Penguin: I've seen that magical place return, as well as be lost. Much depends upon the child, the environment, etc. Much of the useful magicality must be nurtured when young, for this to be the case tho.

My son was/is quite a magical child. We had a very telepathic bond. His teachers used to grow quite attached to him. (He's had some good ones.) We went through a really wretched custody case, and he was put into a local Waldorf school; supposedly they nurture the magical child. (My mother told me at the time it was a fascist school, and I didn't believe her!) I watched a loving, intelligent, awake, aware, artistic child have the dance flattened right out of him. His eyes had that 'dead' look. All in the name of conforming to someone else's 'magical theory'. It was a tragedy of major proportions to me. Everyone else said he was finally 'settling down'.

Happily, I got him into therapy, and, finally, out of that school. The spark came back to his eyes, he is regaining his magical sense, and who knows, he may one day dance again. God knows what would have happened had I not fought tooth and nail to get him out of there. Environment really does make a difference.

Which brings me to my other point. Pre-conquest cultures are bound up in their environment. Post-conquest cultures tend to destroy theirs, with the resultant psychic destruction. I think that one of the ways we can combat this 'post-industrial-disease' is to focus on our environment, specifically, garden and permaculture. It is really hard to not see the magic in life in the middle of a garden.

Just my .02, and hope this isn't too far afield for this post.
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