Bush: Drunk off his ass in China

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Postby freemason9 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:11 pm

thegovernmentflu wrote:This is kind of off-topic, but I can't believe how many people actually buy into Obama. I find the guy inherently unstrustworthy. He seems like a slick soulless phony to me, and his speeches essentially say nothing. Can someone explain to me again why I'm supposed to view this millionaire as a "man of the people"?

And he's a white guy. People tend to forget that many(most? I can't remember the statistic) black people already have caucasian blood in them, so interracial unions usually result in children who are slightly more than 50% white.


He ain't white, cracker. Damn, you white people can't suppress your inbred racism, can you? Now you're blaming Barry-O for not being black enough.

Hell, go vote for McCain, if he fits in more with your beliefs.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:00 pm

^^Yeah, cuz there's definitely only two choices here, and you're familiar enough with the inner workings of that posters mind to judge them. No doubt. Wait, dammit, I just did it, too....there's no escapement from the virus...
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Postby Brighid_Moon » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:03 pm

thegovernmentflu wrote:This is kind of off-topic, but I can't believe how many people actually buy into Obama. I find the guy inherently unstrustworthy. He seems like a slick soulless phony to me, and his speeches essentially say nothing. Can someone explain to me again why I'm supposed to view this millionaire as a "man of the people"?

And he's a white guy. People tend to forget that many(most? I can't remember the statistic) black people already have caucasian blood in them, so interracial unions usually result in children who are slightly more than 50% white.


Excuse me. I'm sorry. Since when does colour have to do with anything? Other than that, you may be right about him not being any more trustworthy than any other. I don't trust any of them.
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Postby 8bitagent » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:05 am

Brighid_Moon wrote:
thegovernmentflu wrote:This is kind of off-topic, but I can't believe how many people actually buy into Obama. I find the guy inherently unstrustworthy. He seems like a slick soulless phony to me, and his speeches essentially say nothing. Can someone explain to me again why I'm supposed to view this millionaire as a "man of the people"?

And he's a white guy. People tend to forget that many(most? I can't remember the statistic) black people already have caucasian blood in them, so interracial unions usually result in children who are slightly more than 50% white.


Excuse me. I'm sorry. Since when does colour have to do with anything? Other than that, you may be right about him not being any more trustworthy than any other. I don't trust any of them.


I have to disagree with governmentflu with Obama, as I actually
greatly like the guy. Whenever I see him interviewed, he comes off as laid back and humorous, and not in that forced way most politicians seem.

Such is why it sucks to see someone whose a genuinely unique likeable guy who may very well mean well, be such a centerpiece for what I can only believe is a well scripted master plan(most likely without him even knowing)
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Postby Perelandra » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:23 am

Pierre d'Achoppement wrote:This is someone drunk, after having lunch with Putin.


I'd love to be drunk, after lunch, with Putin.
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Postby thegovernmentflu » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:06 am

Brighid_Moon wrote:
thegovernmentflu wrote:This is kind of off-topic, but I can't believe how many people actually buy into Obama. I find the guy inherently unstrustworthy. He seems like a slick soulless phony to me, and his speeches essentially say nothing. Can someone explain to me again why I'm supposed to view this millionaire as a "man of the people"?

And he's a white guy. People tend to forget that many(most? I can't remember the statistic) black people already have caucasian blood in them, so interracial unions usually result in children who are slightly more than 50% white.


Excuse me. I'm sorry. Since when does colour have to do with anything? Other than that, you may be right about him not being any more trustworthy than any other. I don't trust any of them.


I think color has a lot to do with this issue. I mean, it's not exactly a stretch to observe that race plays a factor in the candidacy of the first viable nonwhite presidential candidate in American history. I'm just pointing out that it's ridiculous that American society is so racist that black dialect and darker skin are still considered to be the kiss of death to a politician's career.
Obama looks and acts extremely white. If he didn't, his campaign wouldn't have the slightest chance.

I'm a leftist and a vehement anti-racist, but I really don't agree with people who claim that there's no such thing as "acting white" or "acting black". Obviously there's no evidence of anything genetic that makes one race behave differently than another, but there are observable stereotypes that will ring generally true for a large percentage of any particular ethnicity. It's a social issue, not a genetic or racial one.
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Postby freemason9 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:38 am

thegovernmentflu wrote:
Brighid_Moon wrote:
thegovernmentflu wrote:This is kind of off-topic, but I can't believe how many people actually buy into Obama. I find the guy inherently unstrustworthy. He seems like a slick soulless phony to me, and his speeches essentially say nothing. Can someone explain to me again why I'm supposed to view this millionaire as a "man of the people"?

And he's a white guy. People tend to forget that many(most? I can't remember the statistic) black people already have caucasian blood in them, so interracial unions usually result in children who are slightly more than 50% white.


Excuse me. I'm sorry. Since when does colour have to do with anything? Other than that, you may be right about him not being any more trustworthy than any other. I don't trust any of them.


I think color has a lot to do with this issue. I mean, it's not exactly a stretch to observe that race plays a factor in the candidacy of the first viable nonwhite presidential candidate in American history. I'm just pointing out that it's ridiculous that American society is so racist that black dialect and darker skin are still considered to be the kiss of death to a politician's career.
Obama looks and acts extremely white. If he didn't, his campaign wouldn't have the slightest chance.

I'm a leftist and a vehement anti-racist, but I really don't agree with people who claim that there's no such thing as "acting white" or "acting black". Obviously there's no evidence of anything genetic that makes one race behave differently than another, but there are observable stereotypes that will ring generally true for a large percentage of any particular ethnicity. It's a social issue, not a genetic or racial one.


Yeah, I used to be a "leftist" too. Now, I'm just a liberal . . . the real kind of liberal that believes in gun rights. Liberals believe in the expansion of individual rights and liberties, after all.

I don't even know how to begin when it comes to responding to your race comments, but it's clear that you're a white guy. Barry-O doesn't need to conform to anyone's standards or expectations when it comes to race--that's called "freedom." Get over it, already.
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Postby erosoplier » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:47 am

Perelandra wrote:
Pierre d'Achoppement wrote:This is someone drunk, after having lunch with Putin.


I'd love to be drunk, after lunch, with Putin.


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Postby thegovernmentflu » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:19 pm

freemason9 wrote:Yeah, I used to be a "leftist" too. Now, I'm just a liberal . . . the real kind of liberal that believes in gun rights. Liberals believe in the expansion of individual rights and liberties, after all.

I don't even know how to begin when it comes to responding to your race comments, but it's clear that you're a white guy. Barry-O doesn't need to conform to anyone's standards or expectations when it comes to race--that's called "freedom." Get over it, already.


You don't think that some black people feel just a wee bit offended that they're being pandered to by some rich white guy while simultaneously being assured that he's some sort of historic black savior on par with Martin Luther King?
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:26 pm

So is the "official story" still that Bush does not drink at all anymore, right?
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Postby RocketMan » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:53 pm

Right you are and steady as she goes, Wombaticus. :D

I've come to think of it as a sort of emblem of the propensity of mankind for denial and self-delusion. It ain't just a river in Egypt and you can take that to the bank!
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Postby freemason9 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:31 pm

thegovernmentflu wrote:
freemason9 wrote:Yeah, I used to be a "leftist" too. Now, I'm just a liberal . . . the real kind of liberal that believes in gun rights. Liberals believe in the expansion of individual rights and liberties, after all.

I don't even know how to begin when it comes to responding to your race comments, but it's clear that you're a white guy. Barry-O doesn't need to conform to anyone's standards or expectations when it comes to race--that's called "freedom." Get over it, already.


You don't think that some black people feel just a wee bit offended that they're being pandered to by some rich white guy while simultaneously being assured that he's some sort of historic black savior on par with Martin Luther King?


Listen, I don't know of any so-called "black people" that are offended by Barry-O's skin tone. I'm certainly not offended, but I am offended when folks refer to Bill Clinton as "America's first black president." White people say that all the time.

The people that worry over Obama's skin color happen also to be white.

No, he's not "on a par with MLK." MLK was a spiritual leader; Obama is political. MLK focused on issues of oppressed minorities as related to Christian tenets; Obama focuses on the future of Americans in general, and the world at large.

Believe it or not, governmentflu, a black man CAN be a political leader without being evangelical. He can also be pragmatic instead of revolutionary, and calm instead of enraged.
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Postby bks » Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:24 pm

So did I miss the actual evidence that Bush was drunk/drinking, or is it just not there?

If he was drinking, then there should be pictures/video of him drinking, since there are hundreds of pictures/videos taken of the president at an event like that. Can I please see one?

In fact, I'll be glad to see ANY video/pictures of Bus drinking since 2001. Haven't seem them. Doesn't mean he's sober (as any alcoholic knows), but it does mean that there is no good reason for saying you KNOW he's drinking assuming you've seen him do it himself.
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Postby freemason9 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:26 pm

bks wrote:So did I miss the actual evidence that Bush was drunk/drinking, or is it just not there?

If he was drinking, then there should be pictures/video of him drinking, since there are hundreds of pictures/videos taken of the president at an event like that. Can I please see one?

In fact, I'll be glad to see ANY video/pictures of Bus drinking since 2001. Haven't seem them. Doesn't mean he's sober (as any alcoholic knows), but it does mean that there is no good reason for saying you KNOW he's drinking assuming you've seen him do it himself.


Well, he looks drunk. If I looked like that, I would be drunk, I assure you.
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Postby orz » Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:23 am

Well, he looks like a monkey. If I looked like that, I would be a monkey, I assure you.

:)

Seriously tho he looks pretty drunk.
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