Obama's first evil act as president

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Postby barracuda » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:03 pm

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Postby teamdaemon » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:15 pm

professorpan wrote:Conventional wisdom (for whatever that's worth) is that it can't just be shut down without first figuring out how the prisoners are going to be tried and other not-so-unimportant details. Makes sense to me that it needs to be carefully and correctly.

But he (Obama) did make a promise to shut down Gitmo, and this is a first step to ending the extrajudicial military trials.

But of course, Obama is evil and a liar so this must be some kind of ruse.


I do think hes an evil liar, and I also think this is just PR and damage control for the powers that be. For example, there is the issue of "Will they stop torturing?" I think we can all agree that that's a silly question and that they will absolutely not stop torturing. Closing Gitmo will leave every other black hole they've ever used, which is probably where most of the torturing goes on anyway.

I mean, "evil liar" is pretty strong, but I think its still probably the best thing to call him.
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Postby Trifecta » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:20 pm

barracuda wrote:I thought he was gonna close that shithole day one.


Clever that spin stuff ... but, as long as Pan is happy in his ignorance, that's cool.

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Postby Seamus OBlimey » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:20 pm

Fucking hell! Give the guy a chance..

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Postby Nordic » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:30 pm

those photoshops are hilarious
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Postby StarmanSkye » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:31 pm

Goddamnitt Seamus ...

That's the fucking FIRST thing that gave me a seriously good chuckle ... in hell maybe a week already.

Damn Good! I owe ya!

Priceless...

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Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:39 pm

Barak "Aitch" Obama has just acknowledged the quaintly old-fashioned Geneva Convention AND stated the ballsachingly obvious without making a single grammatical error or even an unwisely unambiguous statement about release-dates. Therefore, like all sane human beings, I want to want to have his baby.

The prospects are golden, for everyone except cynics.
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Postby Seamus OBlimey » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:03 pm

Nordic wrote:those photoshops are hilarious


They are but I can't take credit, they're from B3ta

Check out the Hudson bay one downpage..

Skye, nice to know I put a smile on your face but you owe me nothing. I'm sure I get a lot more from your posts than you do mine. You are a Star, man.

Let's hope the real criminals are tried soon but my fingers are aching from too much crossing.
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Postby chlamor » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:19 pm

Mr. Obama promised to bring "change" to Washington, DC.

Unfortunately, Obama appointed Hillary Clinton to be his Secretary of State, and, as a result, set the new administration on the same course Hillary Clinton would choose--immediately return the Clinton administration to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

This assertion is not as far fetched as one would think, because virtually every major appointment to the Obama administration is a former Clinton associate. All the appointments, moreover, are Beltway insiders.

For example, Rahm Emanuel, a former Clinton advisor, is Obama's Chief of Staff.

Obama’s National Economic Council, Lawrence Summers, was Clinton's Treasury Secretary.

Bill Richardson, Clinton’s UN ambassador and energy secretary, is Obama's commerce secretary.

Bill Clinton's lawyer, Eric Holder, is Obama’s choice for attorney general.

Rounding out the list of former Clinton officials who are members of the Obama administration we find former State Department official Wendy Sherman; former Deputy Secretary of Defense John White; Defense Secretary William Perry; Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. In addition, we also find Michael Froman, who served as Rubin’s chief of staff; Peter Orszag is director of the Office of Budget of the White House and Christopher Edley, who served the Clinton administration and is married to a former Clinton deputy chief of staff.

Per Arthur Silber, but which should be painfully obvious to anyone with the intellectual acumen of a sponge:

Any individual who rises to the national political level is, of necessity and by definition, committed to the authoritarian-corporatist state. The current system will not allow anyone to be elected from either of the two major parties who is determined to dismantle even one part of that system.

WhatsoEVER he does do, he will do nothing that would interrupt or jeopardize or cast doubt upon the existing structures.

Guantanamo represents only 1% of the secret TORTURE prisons around the globe where the USA DOES practice TORTURE. Diego Garcia, Bagdad, Jordan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and many others are not mentioned in the main stream media and it does not make part of Obama’s PR program.

The number one priority among many number one priorities facing President Barack Obama should be investigating and arresting the criminals in the Bush administration.

By saying he is looking forward and not at the past gives a green light to all future presidencies who wish to trample the constitution, lie us into wars, torture, scoff at the rule of law, turn their backs on the Geneva Conventions.

This just goes to show that our politicians are in a elite club, an exclusive institution and that in most instances,regardless of party or crimes committed will always protect the institution.

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:13 pm

For my money, chalmor just pwned the thread.

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Postby ninakat » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:32 am

chlamor, I found some of those parts above from various posters at this link in the comments section -- 14. being a key one. They're all great points, but since they aren't all original with you, a link seems appropriate. Thanks.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:44 am

Actually Seamus Wins the Internet.

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Postby wintler2 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:13 am

barracuda wrote:The terrorists have won.

Good. Is it too early to apply for a job in their administration?

Unless you mean the terrorists in suits, getting to retire with their pensions, in which case Bad, and i take personal responsibility, knew i should have got those Hang Bush Now bumperstickers printed.
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Postby RocketMan » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:44 am

Guantanamo represents only 1% of the secret TORTURE prisons around the globe where the USA DOES practice TORTURE. Diego Garcia, Bagdad, Jordan, Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and many others are not mentioned in the main stream media and it does not make part of Obama’s PR program.


This is a very important point. The Bush administration has set the bar so low that any small concession to common decency is now seen as a massive shift. To my knowledge the rendition program is still ongoing and the secret torture centers operational. Of course the mainstream media considers this issue settled and passé. Lawrence Summers and Timothy Geithner are beholden to Wall Street financiers (not to mention Summers' distrubing statements while at the head of Harvard regarding women's intelligence etc.), national security adviser James Jones is a tried and true proponent of American world dominance, Robert Gates is Robert Gates nd Zbigniew Brzezinski is doing lord knows what in the basement.

The whole propaganda triumph is made complete by the notion that to express suspicion towards power now that Obama is the nominal person in power is self-defeating "cynicism", a notion that seems to have currency even among otherwise critical and open-minded people.
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Wake up, sheeple!

Postby professorpan » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:16 am

Oh, dear, when will the sheeple open their eyes to the Barack psyop? His evil reign continues:

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/us/po ... f=politics

Obama to Shut Guantánamo Site and C.I.A. Prisons

Published: January 21, 2009

WASHINGTON — President Obama is expected to sign executive orders Thursday directing the Central Intelligence Agency to shut what remains of its network of secret prisons and ordering the closing of the Guantánamo detention camp within a year, government officials said.

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A blatant PR stunt that will in no way make anything better, yes, chlamor? Ninakat? Hugh?

We need to stop this man before he accomplishes the further unraveling of our country by closing CIA prisons and making torture illegal again. The horror!
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