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Bridge It wrote: Did I read right in that "400" told her to jump out a window?
Fresno_Layshaft wrote:The responses to this article are pretty creepy. Whenever the subject of mental illness comes up here, the reactions are strong and perplexing. Some, oddly, seem fiercely protective of mental illness itself, I don't know how else to describe it. It's strange.
I mean, there was nothing strange or sinister about that story at all. It was just the story of a sick child and her desperate, suffering parents. The illness happened to be schizophrenia, and the only way to treat that is with strong drugs, that nobody wants to give to a child. But what is the alternative? Let 400 The Cat tell Jani to jump out the window?
[The school's founder and executive director, Matthew Israel] has about 230 "clients", full-time students at the Rotenberg Center who are mentally retarded, developmentally disabled with diseases like autism, or have been diagnosed with ailments such as depression, schizophrenia, or conduct disorder.
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Parker [the school's head of programming] has been at the Rotenberg Center for two decades, and bears scars from students who scratched her; she has had her ribs cracked three times. "We witness the tremendous progress that they've made," she says, explaining her longevity. "And I really think it's the GED," referring to the Graduated Electronic Decelerator, the shocking device's technical name.
Some of the scariest students never need the shocks; according to staff members, the mere threat of an electric jolt alone snaps them into shape. Other students actually ask to be wired up, say staff members, because they witness the improvement their peers make and the privileges they earn. But other kids don't have to ask. As Israel and Parker lead their tour of the facility, a staff member walks to the bathroom leading a kid wearing protective mitts. Every few steps the kid stops, shouts something inarticulate, then moves on. Finally, he makes it to the toilet.
"Hmmm," Parker frowns.
"Yes," Israel says, "it might be time for the GED."
Bridge It wrote:
A lot of people here will poo poo the notion, I'm sure, but the general consensus among Roman Catholic exorcists is that persistent animal appearances/visions/delusions is a common a sign of possession. Especially those that "instruct" the individual experiencing the phenomenon to do certain things. Did I read right in that "400" told her to jump out a window?
Penguin wrote:Bridge It wrote:
A lot of people here will poo poo the notion, I'm sure, but the general consensus among Roman Catholic exorcists is that persistent animal appearances/visions/delusions is a common a sign of possession. Especially those that "instruct" the individual experiencing the phenomenon to do certain things. Did I read right in that "400" told her to jump out a window?
Is 'possession' somehow the sole property and expertise of the catholic church?
compared2what? wrote:you're still talking and thinking only about doctors and treatments, rather than the people who have the problem.
MacCruiskeen wrote:Christ alone knows exactly what those medical authorities would have done to William Blake or Emily Bronte. Drugged them out of existence, presumably. There's not a doubt in hell that those blind self-serving quacks would have succeeded brilliantly, one way or another, in preventing them from becoming who they eventually managed to be.
MacCruiskeen wrote:Somebody has to help that child, really. I wish Wilhelm Reich was still alive. Or at least Laing.
I'm going to mail that article to Alice Miller (any port in a storm). It's just fucking outrageous. If that screed can appear in the LA Times without provoking a storm of protest, it's no wonder hardly anyone gives a shit about Guantanamo or Abu Graibh or even the normal US prison system.
OP ED wrote:i am curious about the "schizophrenia" diagnosis.
here in the united states this phrase can mean at least three distinct states. of these three states, only one of them, the organic, hole-in-the-brain sort of scizophrenia is only currently treatable [success ratio] with hardcore chemistry. the other two are, well, not really schizophrenia and can be treated in a number of ways, most of which i'd suggest are things the Psychiatrists i know would treat somewhat less aggressively, especially in a six yr old.
anyone know where we can look at the kid's PET scans?
[which should be a mandatory requisite for this sort of harsh treatment]
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