Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby 17breezes » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:24 pm

JackRiddler wrote:In such a case it is an unexpected thought that the husband would hold an impromptu press conference at their front door. (I'm presuming there was a small media swarm waiting for anyone to go in or out.) You can't tell for sure but the writing suggests he was unruffled and willing to tell what he and Bishop talked about on the phone.

Homework?!


With 4 kids with you waiting to go to church, homework seems an admirable concession to make to the media.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby JackRiddler » Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:48 pm

breezes, you may have a point there.
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Re: Breaking - BishopJFKBishopJFKBishop

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:58 am

Spooks have a knack for keeping an eye out for people with the right NAME/keyword and using them to generate 'propaganda of the event'-decoys. Like "BISHOP."

1993? The Assassination Records Review Board was gearing up to spend 1994-1998 releasing Warren Commission/HSCA records due to public outcry over Oliver Stone's movie, 'JFK.'

BISHOP is one of the most important names in the JFK-murdered-by-CIA'-cover up.
It was the codename for the CIA's Western Hemisphere Division Chief, David Atlee Philips, when he was spotted with Lee Harvey Oswald by anti-Castro Cuban, Antonio Veciano.

YouTube - Oswald & Bishop
"Alpha 66's Antonio Veciana tells of seeing Oswald with his CIA case officer " Maurice Bishop" in Dallas in September 1963."
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:12 am

This latest story from ABC News is nothing but 3 pages of excuses for Bishop's behavior. Yet, not one single person is expressing any shock or remorse. No one is sorry for what she's done. Apparently, it's the rest of the world's fault.

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Accused Alabama Shooter Fought With Neighbors, Told Family She Was Stalked

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/shooter-am ... 839&page=1

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BTW: Who were the victims? Seems no one's saying much about them.
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Re: Breaking - BishopJFKBishopJFKBishop

Postby nathan28 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:44 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Spooks have a knack for keeping an eye out for people with the right NAME/keyword and using them to generate 'propaganda of the event'-decoys. Like "BISHOP."

1993? The Assassination Records Review Board was gearing up to spend 1994-1998 releasing Warren Commission/HSCA records due to public outcry over Oliver Stone's movie, 'JFK.'

BISHOP is one of the most important names in the JFK-murdered-by-CIA'-cover up.
It was the codename for the CIA's Western Hemisphere Division Chief, David Atlee Philips, when he was spotted with Lee Harvey Oswald by anti-Castro Cuban, Antonio Veciano.

YouTube - Oswald & Bishop
"Alpha 66's Antonio Veciana tells of seeing Oswald with his CIA case officer " Maurice Bishop" in Dallas in September 1963."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YRHh4mOofk



Are you trying to say that Bishop's shooting spree is a fabrication? And a fabrication, at that, to cover up a single murder from fifty years ago?
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:28 am

DoYouEverWonder wrote:This latest story from ABC News is nothing but 3 pages of excuses for Bishop's behavior. Yet, not one single person is expressing any shock or remorse. No one is sorry for what she's done. Apparently, it's the rest of the world's fault.

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Accused Alabama Shooter Fought With Neighbors, Told Family She Was Stalked

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/shooter-am ... 839&page=1

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BTW: Who were the victims? Seems no one's saying much about them.


"I suspect somebody in that meeting room was probably an antagonist and I would like to know who that was." (said Bishop's father-in-law, Jim E. Anderson Sr)


Anderson Sr. said that in the past Bishop had "voiced concerns" over her safety on campus.

"Huntsville is not a very friendly community in certain specific areas," he said. "I have a gut feeling that she may have had a weapon for stalkers."

"I don't know if she would have shared that with [her husband] or not," said Anderson Sr. "It was an off the cuff remark to me about someone in her campus neighborhood she had to keep an out eye out for."

Anderson Sr., 71, said that his immediate worry was for the "safety of the family," not knowing who might be "revengeful."


Ochberg, who has studied mass shootings, said female shooters are rare, but he admits, "mothers have done tragic things. They have killed their kids."

"In general being a woman and a mother makes you more in tune with your feelings, more nurturing and sympathetic," said Ochberg. "I believe men are from Mars and women are from Venus, but some women are from Mars."


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http://www.uah.edu/colleges/science/bio ... culty.html

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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:18 am

http://www.wral.com/news/national_world ... y/7044120/


Survivor: Ala. prof in slayings shot methodically

By GREG BLUESTEIN
Associated Press Writer

Posted: 10 minutes ago

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — A survivor of an Alabama university shooting said the professor charged in the attack that claimed
three lives methodically shot the victims in the head until her gun apparently jammed and she was pushed out of the room.

Associate professor Joseph Ng told The Associated Press on Tuesday he was one of 12 people at the biology department
meeting Friday at the University of Alabama-Huntsville. He described the details in an e-mail to a colleague at the
University of California-Irvine.

Ng said the meeting had been going on for about half an hour when Amy Bishop "got up suddenly, took out a gun and started shooting at each one of us. She started with the one closest to her and went down the row shooting her targets in the head."
Bishop, a Harvard-educated neurobiologist, was arrested and charged with one count of capital murder and three counts of
attempted murder.

Killed were Gopi K. Podila, the chairman of the Department of Biological Sciences, and professors Adriel Johnson and Maria
Ragland Davis. Two were wounded - professor Joseph Leahy remained in critical condition and staffer Stephanie Monticciolo
was in serious condition Tuesday. The third, Luis Cruz-Vera, was released from the hospital.

Ng said the meeting was held around an oval table. The six people on one side were all shot.

"The remaining 5 including myself were on the other side of the table (and) immediately dropped to the floor," he wrote.
Ng told the AP the shooting stopped almost as soon as it started. Ng said the gun seemed to jam and he and others
rushed Bishop out of the room and then barricaded the door shut with a table.

Ng said the charge was led by Debra Moriarity, a professor of biochemistry, after Bishop aimed the gun at her and attempted to fire but it didn't shoot. He said Moriarity pushed her way to Bishop, urged her to stop, and then helped force her out the door.

"Moriarity was probably the one that saved our lives. She was the one that initiated the rush," he told the AP. "It took a lot of guts to just go up to her."

Ng said the survivors worried she would shoot her way through the door, and frantically worked up backup plan in case she
burst through. But she never did.

"There was a time when I didn't think I'd come out of the room alive," he said. "I don't think any of us thought we'd come out alive."

Investigators haven't commented on a possible motive, but Bishop was vocal among colleagues about her displeasure
over being denied tenure by the university, forcing her to look for work elsewhere after this semester.

Some victims' relatives have also questioned how Bishop was hired at the university in 2003 after she was involved years ago in separate criminal probes. University of Alabama officials were meeting privately to review the files concerning her hiring.

In 1986, Bishop shot and killed her 18-year-old brother with a shotgun at their Braintree, Mass., home. She told police at the time that she had been trying to learn how to use the gun, which her father had bought for protection, when it accidentally discharged.

Authorities released her and said the episode was a tragic accident. She was never charged, though current Braintree
police Chief Paul Frazier questions how the investigation was handled. Frazier said she also fired once into a wall before
hitting her brother, then fired a third time into the ceiling.

Her husband said Monday he had known about her brother being shot, but said "it was an accident. That's all I knew about
it."

An auto mechanic who worked at a dealership near Bishop's home in 1986 told The Boston Globe that Bishop ran in after
shooting her brother, waved a gun and demanded a getaway car.

Tom Pettigrew, 45, recalled that Bishop said she had had a fight with her husband and he was going to come after her, so
she needed to flee. Pettigrew said Braintree police briefly questioned him and several other employees, but authorities
never contacted him again.
Then in 1993, Bishop and her husband were questioned by investigators looking into a pipe bomb sent to one of Bishop's
colleagues, Dr. Paul Rosenberg, at Children's Hospital Boston. The bomb did not go off, and nobody was ever charged.

Anderson defended himself and his wife as innocent people questioned by investigators casting a wide net. He said the
case "had a dozen people swept up in this and everybody was a subject, not a suspect."

"There was never any indictment, arrest, nothing, and then everyone was cleared after five years," he said.

Huntsville police spokesman Sgt. Mark Roberts said his department didn't find out about either of the older cases until
after the shooting on campus. He said police were checking to confirm details of the pipe bomb probe.

Anderson said his wife had practiced at a shooting range not long before the shooting. Anderson said she acted normally
while they were at the range and none of her behavior in recent days foreshadowed Friday's rampage.


"She was just a normal professor," he told The Associated Press during an interview at his home Monday.

Anderson said his wife didn't reveal why she took an interest in guns. He knew she had a gun, but didn't know when or where she got the weapon.
"I really don't know how she got it, or where she got it from," he said.

Police have said Bishop had no permit for the gun they believe she used in the campus shooting, and investigators said they
didn't know where she got it. It's unclear if it was the same gun that her husband knew about.

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Associated Press Writers Bob Johnson in Montgomery and

Stephen Singer in Hartford, Conn., contributed to this report.

Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press


so, she calmly and methodically shot 6 people in the head and was then rushed out of the room.
then, she calmly called her husband to come pick her up. never giving him any indication about what had just occured.
she had obtained a gun from some unknown source and recently taking an interest in shooting.
her hubby went to the shooting range with her "recently" and said she acted like a "normal professor".
even knowing her entire past history with guns, including the "accidental" shooting of her brother, her husband didn't have enough conceren about her bringing a pistol into the houshold to even ask where the gun came from, or why she had it, or if it was legally registered.
and they have 4 children in the house, yet he's not concerned.

and note, this repeats the mechanics story about her having "a fight with her husband ".

so, who is this mysterious husband James E Anderson?
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:36 am

^agreed, it's a really weird emerging story.

total vacuum of coverage on victims so far compounds the weird.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:45 am

Saved by Professor MORIARiTY?!
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby nathan28 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:37 pm

elfismiles wrote:Saved by Professor MORIARiTY?!


I take it back, HughManatee. This is too freaking strange to be anything but shenanigans.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Tue Feb 16, 2010 3:41 pm

He said Moriarity pushed her way to Bishop, urged her to stop, and then helped force her out the door.

"Moriarity was probably the one that saved our lives. She was the one that initiated the rush," he told the AP. "It took a lot of guts to just go up to her."

Ng said the survivors worried she would shoot her way through the door, and frantically worked up backup plan in case she
burst through. But she never did.


All they cared about was themselves. So instead of subduing her and calling security, they push her out the door. Then instead of using their cell phones to let anyone know this maniac is on the loose, they work on a backup plan in case she comes back. Oh give me a break.
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby JackRiddler » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:01 pm

This thread is taking a distinctly unpleasant turn.

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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby ninakat » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:05 pm

:shock:

A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was “obsessed” with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.

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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby dbcooper41 » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:24 pm

This thread is taking a distinctly unpleasant turn.


and i've even refrained from posting the link about the illuminati history of braintree.
1909-1913 William Howard Taft, 27th. President of the United States (R) Confirmed Mason. (New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies, William T. Still, pg. 21) Initiated: February 18, 1909. Brother Taft was made a "Mason at Sight" within the Body of Kilwinning Lodge No. 356, Cincinnati, Ohio, by Grand Master Charles S. Hoskinson. His father and two brothers were also Members of this Lodge. Brother and President Taft addressed the Brethren, saying, "I am glad to be here, and to be a Mason. It does me good to feel the thrill that comes from recognizing on all hands the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Man." Brother and President Taft visited the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania on the occasion of a Special Communication held in the Masonic Temple (One North Broad Street), on March 12, 1912. Was a member of the Order of Skull and Bones. In fact, the Taft family which dates back to Braintree Mass. in 1679, helped start the Skull & Bones Order and at least eight Taft's have been in the Order. (Fritz Springmeier, Illuminati Bloodlines) Vice President James S. Sherman, 1909-1912. Unknown Mason status.

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:6c ... clnk&gl=us

or cathy o'brien's opinion(fwiw) about huntsville.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ca ... f&aqi=&oq=

or the fact that she shot her brother, maybe with her mom, or dad, or boyfriend, or husband present on dec 6, 1986. what really did happen in that house on that day?
December 6: St. Nicholas' Day: group rape of children (male and female)"

http://daysofevil.blogspot.com/2009/02/ ... -cult.html

or that huntsville is SAIC's 3rd largest location.
http://blog.al.com/breaking/2009/12/arm ... n_for.html

or that people of color seem to have been way overrepresented as victims in this shooting.
or that she doesn't seem to have a valid CV anywhere online. and neither does her hubby, a "freelance researcher" who seems to work out of his house."
and who can forget about the NAZIs and huntsville.

i don't think any of these things are relevant to this case but, you never know. the holy roller sites are all over the fritz/cathy o'brien mkultra aspects of the shooting.
and you gotta admit she sure acted cool, calm and collected.
it's a weird one!
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Re: Breaking - First ever female rampage killing?

Postby elfismiles » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:40 pm

JackRiddler wrote:This thread is taking a distinctly unpleasant turn.

Yeah, I wonder sometimes!


? :shrug: ?

What specifically are you referring to?
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