Britain to expel Mossad's man in London

[seemslikeadream]

Britain to expel Mossad's man in London over Dubai assassination
Mossad's representative at the Israel embassy in London is being expelled over the use of cloned British passports in the killing of a senior Hamas commander in Dubai, the Telegraph has learned.

By Rosa Prince, Political Correspondent
Published: 10:43AM GMT 23 Mar 2010

Pictured L to R, (top row) allegedly are Mark Sklur, Daniel Marc Schnur, Philip Carr, (bottom row) Stephen Keith Drake, Gabriella Barney, and Roy Allan Cannon. Photo: Dubai Police
Foreign Secretary David Miliband is due to address Parliament on Tuesday afternoon on the issue.
A government official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment ahead of the statement, says Britain will expel one Israeli diplomat. Sources disclosed that the individual is Mossad's London representative.

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Ron Proser, the Israeli Ambassador to London, was summoned to the Foreign Office on Monday to be told the results of an inquiry into the murder of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh, whose body was discovered in a luxury Dubai hotel room on January 20.
Several members of the team suspected of killing him were found to be travelling on passports cloned from documents belonging to British citizens living in Israel. Other passports had been stolen from Irish, German, Australian and French citizens.
A senior Israeli diplomat would be expelled as a mark of the “anger” within the Government that British passport holders had been put at risk as a result of the operation.
Mr Miliband has pulled out of an event at the Israeli Embassy this afternoon, where he was due to be the guest of honour at a "housewarming party" to mark the the opening of its new building in Kensington, central London.
A ministerial statement to be made to Parliament on Tuesday will formally name the Israeli security services as responsible for the cloning of up to 15 British passports, which were copied after being taken away by airport officials.
The statement will say that it proved impossible to confirm definitively whether Mossad, the Israeli secret intelligence service, was responsible for the operation, with suspicion also resting on the Military Intelligence Directorate.
But the probe had determined for certain that the passports were cloned when British citizens passed through airports on their way into Israel, with officials taking them away for “checks” which lasted around 20 minutes.
Foreign Office sources expressed frustration that there was little more that could be done to “punish” Israel over the affair.
A number of those whose passports were stolen had dual British and Israeli nationality.
They include Gabriella Barney, 23, and her father Michael, 54, along with Daniel Marc Schnur, 32, Roy Allan Cannon, 62, Stephen Keith Drake, 54, Mark Daniel Sklar, 30, and Philip Carr, 35.
A number of the innocent passport holders have expressed concern and upset that their identities were used for the assassination of a senior Hamas commander, which was carried out by a team of at least 23 operatives.
Israel has refused to confirm or deny any involvement in the audacious murder, insisting that it has a “policy of ambiguity”.
The suspects, including a number of women, were filmed on security cameras strolling through hotel lobbies disguised as tourists wearing tennis clothes.
They followed al-Mabhouh to his hotel room, where he was found suffocated hours later.

[AlicetheKurious]

Maybe I'm too cynical, but so what if one diplomat is expelled? It's happened before, and for the same reason, with no lasting effects at all.

On the other hand, one can only hope (probably in vain) that British, unlike American politicians, get fed up with the routine of wiping the spit off their faces and calling it a gentle, refreshing rain. (Imagine British parliamentarians calling Israelis "dogs"...or getting away with any of the crap those zios are so used to getting away with).

Rightist MKs: 'British are dogs, who are they to judge?'

After Britain accuses Israel of cloning passports used in Mabhouh assassination, threatens to expel Israeli diplomat, MK Arieh Eldad compares British to dogs: 'Who gave them right to judge us on war on terror?'

Amnon Meranda
Published: 03.23.10, 13:36 / Israel News

Members of Knesset were outraged with Britain's accusations against Israel over the assassination of a Hamas official in Dubai and its threats to expel an Israeli diplomat from London over the stolen passports affair. MK Arieh Eldad said on Tuesday that the British were behaving hypocritically and compared them to dogs.

Eldad also gave an interview to the British Sky network, and said that a British diplomat should be expelled in response, "maybe the military attaché". British media has been covering the crisis since Tuesday morning.

When asked of the comparison, Eldad said, "I was just quoting what was said in Latroun 62 years ago. I think the British are being hypocritical and I do not wish to insult dogs here, since some dogs show true loyalty. Who gave the British the right to judge us on the war on terror?"

The National Union MK addressed the Passover haggadah, as passed down to him from his father, the late Lehi leader Yisrael Eldad. "When my father held the seder in Latroun before 500 prisoners he read Chad Gadya (One goat song sung at Passover) to the British prison commander. And the question was posed: If the goat is righteous, then the cat is evil, then the dog is righteous, then the stick is evil – and in the end it turns out that, heaven forbid, God Almighty is evil. What is the answer he gave to the Briton? The answer was that 'the goat may be righteous, the cat may be evil, but you are the dog. You Briton. Who gave you the right to judge?'"

Eldad's fellow party member Michael Ben-Ari was asked if he agrees with the comparison and said, "Dogs are usually loyal, the British may be dogs, but they are not loyal to us. They seem to be loyal to the anti-Semitic establishment.

"Unfortunately, the Israeli government and Israeli diplomacy play into their hands. We have learned that a dog must be called by its name. This is anti-Semitism disguised as anti-Zionism."

On the other hand, Chairman of the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee MK Tzachi Hanegbi (Kadima) said Israel should refrain from responding to the crisis with Britain. "I believe that Israel's abstaining from giving any kind of response at the height of the Dubai crisis was right. Now that the height of the crisis is behind us, it is certainly all the more logical to refrain from making matters worse."

He added, "Over the years, Israel has adopted a policy of not responding to allegations made against it in such matters. This is sometimes used to accuse Israel of things it has nothing to do with."

Earlier, it was reported that Britain plans to formally announced that Israel was behind the cloning of British passports used in the assassination of Hamas man Mahmoud al-Mabhouh. It was also reported that an Israeli diplomat is to be expelled from London, with Foreign Secretary David Miliband scheduled to give a statement on the matter at 3:30 pm GMT Tuesday. Link

[17breezes]

Actually you should be heartened by the fact that the British are ready to punish even though it is "impossible to prove." Isn't that an Anti-zionist's wet dream?

[AlicetheKurious]

Isn't that an Anti-zionist's wet dream?

Speak for yourself, you vulgar little person. One day the abomination that is the zionist state will be forced to make real restitution for all the suffering it has inflicted on millions of innocent people. That's not a dream, "wet" or otherwise. That's a promise.

[norton ash]

I think 17breezes' avatar is a picture of his/her Zionist wet brain.

[17breezes]

I think 17breezes' avatar is a picture of his/her Zionist wet brain.

So what's your opinion on this Chuckles? Innocent until thought to be guilty? Is that good enough for you too?

[norton ash]

They're booting him out, not jailing or executing him.

Massive retribution based on suspicion is more Mossad-style.

[17breezes]

They're booting him out, not jailing or executing him.

Massive retribution based on suspicion is more Mossad-style.

Ok I'll put you into the innocent until thought guilty column along with Alice.

[Nordic]

He'll just get a new fake passport and come right back.

[AlicetheKurious]

Oh, yeah, I forgot: the passports weren't forged. That implicates, not just the Mossad, but a Mossad mole within Britain's Passport Office. Investigating that would open a can of worms. Pressure mounts. Throwing out a functionary in the Israeli embassy defuses the situation, bolsters the illusion of the British government's independence. Limited hangout.

[hava1]

interesting development. When New Zealand booted the last "identity thieves", at least one of them landed in Visa Credit Card CEO position, in Israel, to "show" who is the boss. I assume, this guy will be demonstratively positioned. And sooner rather than later, some israeli clients will suffer the consequence of reckless and criminal management (as happened with VISA, and you can read about their bizarre problems, with VISA international,if u care to google, natrually there is porn industry involved and what not)l.;

Alice, again, you miss the link. I think if u want "real restitution", lets start with making Mossad assume responsibility WIThin ISRAEL to its presently identified Israseli victims. (I am still waiting for canada to carry the torch of law, and make "restitutions" to me a propos the "passposrt wars"). the UK HAS to support those dual (israeli UK) individuals whose passports were nicked, to sue the Mossad, and set the door opened for others. It will do good to the climate of assuming responsbility, namely, accountability. Which is alien, so far, to those organization's mentaility.

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Alice, i was curious to know the word in Egypt about the arrest of Yotam Feldman over there. any juicy stuff ?

[AlicetheKurious]

Alice, i was curious to know the word in Egypt about the arrest of Yotam Feldman over there. any juicy stuff?

Honestly? Nobody cares, as far as I can tell. I'll pm you later with the Israel-Egypt related news that is getting a lot of attention around here.

[hava1]

oh ok. You know that journalist is the son of Avigdor Feldman, the former human rights lawyer (also lawyer of Vanunu) who turned into the great defense attorney of sex offenders and pedophiles ? (now representing Katzav, the former President, charged with rape).

Anyway, i thought something was on the media w that, but perhaps its an anecdot.

Back go this thread. Haaretz filed a "query" to the attorney general here, re the legality of the passport scam (*from local pov), considering the damage to innocent owners of identities. iN ADDITION, and oddly, within same letter, they added a question whether it is lawful for an intel operative to withhold information about his (her too) job, from spouse. Follow up, a case of local Shabak op who married a settler lady, to infiltrate the settler community, made 7 children w her !!! and was then exposed. Lady sued the state, and issue is now relevant. Given the fact that Haaretz found those two issues related, i assume some of the failed assassins ALSO falsely lured spouses for "cover", which is more than just common here, its a plague.

That could also apply to Mossad ops marrying various "locals" abroad, to gain status and cover. Legally speaking, this is rape by state.

[AlicetheKurious]

Haaretz filed a "query" to the attorney general here, re the legality of the passport scam (*from local pov), considering the damage to innocent owners of identities.

Why are you so sure they are innocent? Some people are questioning how the Mossad could be sure none of them would be traveling on those dates. How hard could it be for the Mossad to find dual citizens willing to have their identity "borrowed" for such a purpose? Were they willing accomplices who balked when it went sour, when their names were broadcast all over the world and put on an international wanted list? I'm not saying they were complicit, just wondering.

BTW, that's interesting, about Feldman. He's being described only as "an Israeli journalist", nothing about his other relationships. Certainly that puts the story in a new light.

[hava1]

1. i don't think all or most of them were complicit, and i think thats the general view accross the lines. The way to make sure they dont travel at same time could be very intrusive and unpleasant for those involved. Just to name one, recently added bizarre law that allows creditors, even for minute debts (such as unpaid phone bill) to prevent debtor from exitting Israel , other ways are possibly making them "tied up" (illness, work, problems accidents,etc.). that should be sorted out now, i hope. There is at least one previous case of israeli canadian who claimed that mossad made threats, to get him to agree to such, and he petitioned canadian ambassador, and received help. Matter is known, and Israelis who maintain their citizenships , certainly do not want to lose them this way, so I think you are , and other are as well, willingly prefer to place "all of them" in one basket, make all israelis one and the same.weve been through that too many times.

2. Yes, i suspected the son was "held" to place pressure on lawyer-father, in legal matters. could have been israelis tipping off egypt border patrol. bit of a conspiratorial view, but given that father lawyer had to plead with Shimon Peres to release son....that would be possible.