1 in 5 believe aliens walk among us

[elfismiles]

for a great movie along these lines too few have seen: Hombre mirando al Sudeste aka Man Facing Southeast

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hombre_mirando_al_sudeste

E.L.F. INFESTED SPACES - JOURNAL OF POSSIBLE PARADIGMS
Issue 2, Fall '94

Man Facing South East
reviewed by SMiles



This film has gone long unnoticed by those who most need to see it: UFOlogists and anomalists alike (see Ed Conroy's Report on Communion). Argentina's brilliant director, Eliseo Subiela, has created a stirring piece of cinema in the tradition of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and The Man Who Fell To Earth. In Subiela's film, we meet a man named Rantes who claims to be an extraterrestrial. Rantes interns himself in the local sanitarium, where he interacts with the head psychiatrist. Both men try to change the other's perception of reality; the psychiatrist tries to heal Rants of his delusion, and Rants tries to heal the psychiatrist of his unhappiness.

Released in 1986, the film deals with many of the themes found in the UFO/contactee literature. Rantes claims to be on a mission to save the meek, who have been brutalized and institutionalized by human civilization. He says that he is a physical, living, holographic projection sent from his home planet. He exhibits qualities of the Christ, including compassion, leadership, and telekinesis. The patients begin to follow him like a saviour. All the while, every test shows that Rantes is both physically and psychologically healthy, save for claiming to be from another planet.

The plot thickens when a woman friend of Rantes' shows up during visiting hours, and a romance ensues between this woman and the psychiatrist.

You owe it to yourself to seek out and view this foreign masterpiece which searches the psyche of humanity for that capacity which we consider most human: compassionate action.

http://www.elfis.net/elfol2/mfserev.html

[justdrew]

[Nordic]

Wasn't K-PAX, starring the appropriately named Kevin Spacey, sort of like this movie? Was this a remake of Man Facing Southeast?

[justdrew]

Wasn't K-PAX, starring the appropriately named Kevin Spacey, sort of like this movie? Was this a remake of Man Facing Southeast?

the author of k-pax claims to have known nothing of Man Facing... but the story in general and some shots seem like total steals to many. including me.

[Joe Hillshoist]

BTW, there are possibilities in addition to the actual extraterrestrial visitation in form (alien), one of course is through incarnation/birth in a human body and another that one hears about is the 'walk in', a case where a human soul relinquishes its exclusive rights associated with its body to allow the spirit of extraterrestrial origin to unite with it and thereby take possession of a fully functioning adult human form.

This 'walk in' concept comes from the idea of an avatar (Sanskrit..avatara) whereby the spiritual consciousness of a Divine entity unites with the human soul generally for the purpose of intervention in a crisis that has developed on the physical globe of the Earth planetary system. Jesus is an example of an avatar in this tradition.

Yeah but is that "alien" or extraterrestrial?

The avatars, and the spiritual forces that inhabit and control them, or inspire and motivate them ... in what sense are they "extraterrestrial". Their existence is bound up with and dependent on earth, and in a real sense they are the applications of something in a specific spacetime - earth at that moment. They are the manifestation of stuff that belongs everywhere, not just to some different specific spot in spacetime.

The use of "aliens" in this OP isn't along those lines imo, its more along the lines of "alien infiltrators".

That doesn't mean "avatars" couldn't pose as aliens to achieve their own ends tho. That's kind of the impression I get about that film smiley and drew mentioned.

It really happened just like that! 2005

Yeah man, weird shit abounds. I dunno whats going on with that sort of weirdness. Sometimes, at a good party, especially when people are tripping and making good music, the "walls" between imagination and reality start to get very thin. At things like burning man this can effect a huge area. Not saying those things don't exist independent of our imaginations either, but its those times when its easier to focus attention on them. Thats my impression of them anyway, but really wtf knows?

They could be here hiding in places or plain site, and only "come out" at burning man et al cos people are more likely to be either cool with meeting them, or able to put the experience into "drug induced hallucination" box.

Not to mention its usually easy to entice wasted people into dark quiet areas at those events then eat them.

[Ben D]

BTW, there are possibilities in addition to the actual extraterrestrial visitation in form (alien), one of course is through incarnation/birth in a human body and another that one hears about is the 'walk in', a case where a human soul relinquishes its exclusive rights associated with its body to allow the spirit of extraterrestrial origin to unite with it and thereby take possession of a fully functioning adult human form.

This 'walk in' concept comes from the idea of an avatar (Sanskrit..avatara) whereby the spiritual consciousness of a Divine entity unites with the human soul generally for the purpose of intervention in a crisis that has developed on the physical globe of the Earth planetary system. Jesus is an example of an avatar in this tradition.

The avatars, and the spiritual forces that inhabit and control them, or inspire and motivate them ... in what sense are they "extraterrestrial". Their existence is bound up with and dependent on earth, and in a real sense they are the applications of something in a specific spacetime - earth at that moment. They are the manifestation of stuff that belongs everywhere, not just to some different specific spot in spacetime.

Big subject Joe, and if I understand your comment correctly, am in complete agreement. According to the esoteric traditions with which I'm familiar, there are seven spheres associated with a planetary system such as Earth, but only the physical one on which humans live is unique to time and space as is understood by conceptual thinking processes of the human mind/brain. The other six extend beyond the spacial limits of physical earth and actually interpenetrate other planets in a way that when it comes to the 7th and highest (most subtle) sphere, there is only one and it is common to all of the solar systems planetary systems, and whose consciousness which is omnipresent within the whole of its star system is known conceptually to human consciousness as the Solar Logos, Solar Deity, etc..

Sorry for going OT, carry on.

[justdrew]

BTW, there are possibilities in addition to the actual extraterrestrial visitation in form (alien), one of course is through incarnation/birth in a human body and another that one hears about is the 'walk in', a case where a human soul relinquishes its exclusive rights associated with its body to allow the spirit of extraterrestrial origin to unite with it and thereby take possession of a fully functioning adult human form.

This 'walk in' concept comes from the idea of an avatar (Sanskrit..avatara) whereby the spiritual consciousness of a Divine entity unites with the human soul generally for the purpose of intervention in a crisis that has developed on the physical globe of the Earth planetary system. Jesus is an example of an avatar in this tradition.

The avatars, and the spiritual forces that inhabit and control them, or inspire and motivate them ... in what sense are they "extraterrestrial". Their existence is bound up with and dependent on earth, and in a real sense they are the applications of something in a specific spacetime - earth at that moment. They are the manifestation of stuff that belongs everywhere, not just to some different specific spot in spacetime.

Big subject Joe, and if I understand your comment correctly, am in complete agreement. According to the esoteric traditions with which I'm familiar, there are seven spheres associated with a planetary system such as Earth, but only the physical one on which humans live is unique to time and space as is understood by conceptual thinking processes of the human mind/brain. The other six extend beyond the spacial limits of physical earth and actually interpenetrate other planets in a way that when it comes to the 7th and highest (most subtle) sphere, there is only one and it is common to all of the solar systems planetary systems, and whose consciousness which is omnipresent within the whole of its star system is known conceptually to human consciousness as the Solar Logos, Solar Deity, etc..

Sorry for going OT, carry on.

1. quarks, etc making elementary particles
2. electrons, protons, neutrons
3. atoms
4. molecules
5. cellular life
6. multi-cellular life forms
7. the mind/ego self of multi-cellular lifeforms
8. ?
9. god

oh, some other aliens that can walk among us...
see the Perry Rhodan universe...
greatest scifi movie of them all, even surpassing Green Slime...






and I don't know, this might be alien related...
(it's actually more than what it looks like from the freeze frame)


and then there's the series, Gantz, about dead people being captured at the point of death and reconstructed by an alien "police?" drone that then uses them to hunt apprehend/kill illegal alien interlopers on earth. which is only one example of many entertainment products that revolve around the idea of aliens of wide variety living on earth. The Tenchi Muyo series would be another basic example.

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I happen to be, at this time, rereading a book called E.T. 101: The Cosmic Instruction Manual for Planetary Evolution.

Pg. 13 - 16

The New Intergalactic Collegiate Dictionary

Level 1 Words
Look Jane, See Spot Run

Extraterrestrial . . .

One of the multiple reasons this subject has become as convoluted as it has over the years is the attempt by many to advance an agenda by trying to change the meaning of words.

Zoev Jho, the author of the quote from the above referenced book, is just one example of many.

Simulist -- When I first read your response to my post about E.T. 101, I thought perhaps you were losing your sense of humor, because I first read this book back in 2002, and frankly thought it was a joke . . . like someone was being funny. I was only wanting to share the humor here, on this thread.

My mistake.

Little did I know, this was serious business. I'm so embarrassed.

Four Blessings from the E.T. 101 site.

I have now been healed, and am awaiting the joy and abundance to kick-in. >
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[Simulist]

No one here should be embarrassed.

I'm pretty sure I would never have considered this subject "serious business" either, Username, had I not had the sorts of experiences I did as a child such that the nature of reality itself came seriously into question for me.

Since then, during many years spent trying to understand what those experiences were and what they might have meant, I've come across multiple hoaxers, charlatans, the delusional, other genuinely sincere people — and something else: a surprisingly concerted undertaking by proxies of officialdom to manage the larger conversation about this topic in such a way that few intelligent people would ever want to touch this subject! — and even fewer would feel comfortable calling it "serious business."

And that begs the question, "What could possibly be of such importance and 'serious business' about this topic that officialdom would make such an effort about it, as it clearly has?"

If the larger topic of ontology remains of any importance to anyone at all anymore, then this sub-topic should be of absolutely vital interest.

"Latent structure is master of obvious structure," said Heraclitus. It is the "latent structure" that the sub-topic of a possible non-human intelligence (superior to our own) forces us to deal with. For "The Nature of things is in the habit of concealing itself."

[Nordic]

Simulist, if and when you care to share those experiences, we're all ears!

I would love to hear about them.

I saw a UFO when I was about five, for what it's worth. Just sitting on the porch of my house, after dark, and there it went. I went inside and told my parents about it, drew a picture for them, everything, but I'm pretty sure they thought I was just making it up.

[Simulist]

Thanks, Nordic. I appreciate your post very much.

Interestingly perhaps, because of these experiences (I may share some of them at some point in the future), I see the whole "UFO" question quite unconventionally.

That's why I consider Jacques Vallée and Jeff Wells (and I'm not saying this because I'm posting on his site either, by the way) are two authors whose healthy skepticism on the topic permits them to touch the mystery of these phenomena in a useful way, rather than in a usual way that traps the mind in "just another belief system."

Whatever these phenomena really are, they are not something that is essentially (or necessarily) irrational, but meta-rational. (It is the meta-rational character of this which, incidentally, is why I chose the hypercube as my avatar.)