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Re: The comedy thread

Postby barracuda » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:15 pm

Thanks to Montag's introduction there, I think I'm starting to like Katt Williams.

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Re: The comedy thread

Postby Jeff » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:28 am

Still on my Stewart Lee bender.

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Re: The comedy thread

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sat Nov 27, 2010 11:53 pm

You might have seen this one before Jeff, but it's my curent favourite routine of Stewart Lee's. Some of the subject matter could be offensive or upsetting to some members here (jokes about paedophilia) while other parts might not make much sense due to cultural differences or whatever. But it's great. Long, as I said. A two-parter.

He does a lot of his trademark stuff in this one: - deconstructing his own performance as he performs it, deliberately testing the tolerance and goodwill of his own audience, and being really funny in a deceptively understated way.

It helps if you know in advance that Glasgow has long been known in Britain (or at least in Glasgow) as "the comedian's graveyard" due to the hard, often hostile reception which is generally given to acts who have got lazy or tired by the time they arrive.

Some comedians make an attempt to ingratiate themselves with the audience.
Stewart Lee did this instead:



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Re: The comedy thread

Postby Jeff » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:48 am

Brilliant, thanks!

Lee has a piece in The Independent today on the business of comedy:

Stewart Lee wrote:In 1993, after David Baddiel and Rob Newman became the first comics to play Wembley, Janet Street-Porter declared comedy "the new rock'n'roll". Like the naïve pop bands of yore, in whose soiled footsteps we trod, young stand-ups like myself hit the road in transit vans full of lager to embark on expensively promoted tours from which we saw little, if any, of the takings. In this respect at least, comedy was the new rock'n'roll. Today, the death of recorded music and the tyranny of The X Factor means that even rock'n'roll is no longer rock'n'roll, just a stringy facsimile made of cat guts, navel fluff and hair gel. If this travesty is rock'n'roll, then stand-up comedy could be too, for latterly it's equally adept at fleecing vulnerable people out of hot-dog money in cavernous barns.

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There's a deeper argument to be had here about whether the stand-up comedian, who shares anthropological roots with the holy fools and tricksters of myth, should even be a success. Aren't we supposed to be outside society, looking in, poking fun?



http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co ... 45510.html

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Re: The comedy thread

Postby Allegro » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:22 am

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Re: The comedy thread

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:22 am

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Allegro... what... What did I just watch?

I... I don't know... what's happening anymore. Compared to that video, the fact that there is a man currently in existence called Baba Booey seems almost self-explanatory - like the most natural thing on earth. I not understand.

Jeff, that was a great little article - he's right, a lot of performers (not just comedians) seem to be operating behind a kind of unofficial pay-wall now, and won't put on any kind of show (or even reveal any personality at all) unless they've seen the takings beforehand. Everybody's acting like they're James Brown, but less talented. They don't even try to be interesting or funny in interviews anymore, unless it's a major show and they've got product to promote, which is kind of pathetic.

More folk like Tom Waits is what we need - on top of all his other talents, he's one of the best comedians I've ever seen, and he puts a bit of craft and effort into it as well, while still coming across natural. of course, this was on Letterman. Maybe he doesn't bother for lesser shows - but I bet he does:

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Re: The comedy thread

Postby Allegro » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:37 am

AhabsOtherLeg wrote:.
Allegro... what... What did I just watch?

I... I don't know... what's happening anymore… I not understand. [Refer.]
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How could it be any clearer? :eeyaa

Think of it as a soup, Ahabs, as, a little bit of somethin’ for everyone. Besides all the-beauty-of-art in that, what is it?, a cartoon? Okay, bedsides all the-beauty-of-art in that cartoon, there stood Carl Sagan. A little science and religion, a little philosophy, a little ufology. Who could ask for anything more?

When you find such a find as that cartoon, where else to put it? I ask myself. Into the RI fire pit?

Love Stewart Lee and Tom Waits (here, too, but I’ m guessing you already knew that :bigsmile ).
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Re: The comedy thread

Postby 82_28 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:55 am

barracuda wrote:Thanks to Montag's introduction there, I think I'm starting to like Katt Williams.



As one may imagine, I am diggin' this Katt Williams cat too. That's the way I talk when I get worked up! That shit was motherfucking funny!
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Re: The comedy thread

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Re: The comedy thread

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Re: The comedy thread

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Re: The comedy thread

Postby barracuda » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:53 pm

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Re: The comedy thread

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Re: The comedy thread

Postby Allegro » Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:50 am

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    VIMEO NOTES BY BRADLEY HOWARD. This is a film clip I produced, directed and edited for Brisbane comedy performer Kat Mandu and her single Jesus Ain't Coming Back. WARNING: it does contain content that some people may find offensive so if that is you, please do not watch, but if you have a sense of humour, enjoy.
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