23 wrote:Most of my neighbors, however, are more interested in the Super Bowl this Sunday. Ripe fodder for an engulfing contagion.
OMG that's this weekend? #egypt
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23 wrote:Most of my neighbors, however, are more interested in the Super Bowl this Sunday. Ripe fodder for an engulfing contagion.
Many people said it was not enough just for Mr Mubarak to go. The whole regime must change.
"We will not accept any military men any more," Hani Kedri told me.
"The military has controlled this country since 1952. Enough!"
In other words the protesters will not accept a take-over by the new Vice President of Egypt Omar Suleiman, or any of the other senior military elite.
Nor are many I spoke to keen on Mohamed ElBaradei, the former International Atomic Energy Agency chief, and the man many in the West would like to see take over.
"We do not support ElBaradei," another man told me.
"We have made these events ourselves. We own this. We will choose our own leaders ourselves, not have them imposed on us by others."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
nathan28 wrote:23 wrote:The revolutionaries in Egypt are shedding a positive light on the oft maligned term of anarchism. By effectively evidencing what decentralized self-management looks like, a core component of anarchism.
Exactly, exactly! Like that one character said on Democracy Now, the volunteer traffic directors are better at it than anyone else! I give anarchists a hard time but it's really just tough love.
MacCruiskeen wrote:Many people said it was not enough just for Mr Mubarak to go. The whole regime must change.
"We will not accept any military men any more," Hani Kedri told me.
"The military has controlled this country since 1952. Enough!"
In other words the protesters will not accept a take-over by the new Vice President of Egypt Omar Suleiman, or any of the other senior military elite.
Nor are many I spoke to keen on Mohamed ElBaradei, the former International Atomic Energy Agency chief, and the man many in the West would like to see take over.
"We do not support ElBaradei," another man told me.
"We have made these events ourselves. We own this. We will choose our own leaders ourselves, not have them imposed on us by others."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
tazmic wrote:that's the irony of it: The police went undercover to make the people look like 'anarchists'.
The people self organised to defend against it.
The powers that be are currently tipping their collective hand big time.
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2048: The BBC's Magdi Abdelhadi, outside the presidential residence in the Cairo suburb of Heliopolis, says: "Nationalist songs are being broadcast on state radio, interspersed with communiques. One has just announced that a group of subversive elements trying to come between the Egyptian people and their armed forces have been arrested. The songs and communiques are a reminder of 1960s and 1970s, when Egypt was still at war with Israel. The regime is clearly trying to whip up nationalist sentiment in an effort to convince the public that foreigners are plotting against Egypt. To our right, traffic slows, as a crane lowers massive blocks in front of Hosni Mubarak's residence. It is this part of Cairo that the protesters in Tahrir Square are planning to march to demand that the president step down."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
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2112: Mr Mubarak says the demonstrations have turned from a civilised act to a violent one "controlled by political powers that have poured oil onto the fire"."We have been living very painful days together," he says.
"The events of the past few days require us all - people and leaders - to make the choice between chaos and
stability, and dictate new conditions and a new Egyptian reality."
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2114: The president concludes his address by saying he intends to die in Egypt.
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2118:The tens of thousands of people in Tahrir Square respond to Mr Mubarak's announcement by shouting "Get out!" in unison.
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tazmic wrote:nathan28 wrote:23 wrote:The revolutionaries in Egypt are shedding a positive light on the oft maligned term of anarchism. By effectively evidencing what decentralized self-management looks like, a core component of anarchism.
Exactly, exactly! Like that one character said on Democracy Now, the volunteer traffic directors are better at it than anyone else! I give anarchists a hard time but it's really just tough love.
And that's the irony of it: The police went undercover to make the people look like 'anarchists'. The people self organised to defend against it.
The powers that be are currently tipping their collective hand big time.
MacCruiskeen wrote:2114: The president concludes his address by saying he intends to die in Egypt.
I'm sure millions will be prepared to help him, tonight if necessary.
Jeff wrote:MacCruiskeen wrote:It is a joy to behold, not least because it's come so suddenly and unexpectedly. But sooner or later those demonstrators are going to have to decide how far they will go to eject, not just Mubarak, but the whole pack. It remains to be seen what chance they will have - what chance they will be "allowed" - to institute real (rather than cosmetic) political reforms and achieve real justice, i.e. socialism.
I've been thinking about how I hate being an armchair revolutionary, but also how it seems the time to take the national broadcaster and Interior Ministry.
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