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This mislabeling the map of New York thing has to be a subversive ploy to keep people watching.
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AlicetheKurious wrote:HE'S GONE!!!!!!!
HE'S GONE!!!!!!!
ioerror Jacob Appelbaum
Find all of Mubarak's and members of the now fallen regime's assets. Work to freeze them and try all of them for crimes against humanity.
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@ioerror Mubarak has property in California, around hollywood but unable to find address
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@ioerror Mubarak has property in California, around hollywood but unable to find address
AlicetheKurious wrote:HE'S GONE!!!!!!!
HE'S GONE!!!!!!!
Do it!!! Do it!!! Do it!!ThomasRHart Thomas Gerhardt
@ioerror US government must immediately follow Switzerland's example and freeze all of #Mubarak's assets. That money is blood money!
That's 620 BILLION US dollars, which is over three and a half trillion Egyptian pounds. That's roughly 1/6th of the US Federal budget and about 16 months of Egypt's GDP. If frozen and returned to Egypt, it would be $7500 for every man, woman and child in the country. It's also 9 times any other figure I've seen mentioned for Mubarak. It might be real, but I have to be a little skeptical.
But if it is real, holy shit!
Posted by: Graham | Sunday, 06 February 2011
Fake or not, this very well explains the mechanism of money making. It says someone made an investment in the YEAR 1976!!!
So the Barclays International Bank in 1976?? Well, many things used to have different names back in 1976.
It is useful to have a look at the system in which it works
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_%28finance%29
And "FACE VALUE" international deposit is just that. Nobody says "real value"
In other words, if you promise me not to ask return of lended money for 35 years, I can easily sell you 620 billion USD bonds for 55 billion dollars OR LESS. That is the depreciation of real value of money. If it was investment instead, it could have the return of say 10% a year, it would be 22 billion dollars in 1976.
However, the Swiss company exists and the man signed there does too, and he is an expert on international relations, wears a BEARD and comes from a nation said to have very skillful hands!
I simply DO NOT WISH TO KNOW MORE. Even if it is faked, it all makes sense, even if the real investments are in hotels, luxury resorts, yachts, etc. you name it.
We know of the London palace the young one owns. If there is more - good for them. No envy from me!
And I would not want to be in his skin walking around in his city!
Posted by: Gustaf | Sunday, 06 February 2011
These companies are "operating" from
27 Lauriston Street, Edinburgh, EH3 9DQ
Phone: +41-79-6259670 (this is a Swiss Mobile Phone)
Fax: +44-207-6811959 (Efax no.).
These companies are "directed" by
Lord Richard Cummings, Chairman
Dr. Urs Schneider, Director
2. Dr. Urs Schneider (SIGNATORY ON SKR)
05-21-1964 born in Stein am Rhein/CH
President of
Charles Lafitte (Schweiz) AG
Zum Zollikof 6
CH-8260 Stein am Rhein
The company is officially cancelled (Commercial Registry
Switzerland, Tagebuch Nr. 314 vom 02.03.2005)
3. See no. 1 above: Morgan et Fils Ltd.
Urs Schneider represents
Morgan & Son Limited
Registered in Scotland
Registered Number SC 252147
Phone: +41-79-6259670
Fax: +44-207-6811959
(same numbers as for Caledonian Banking Group - see
no. 1 above)
This company is still registered for
Morgan & Son Limited
27 Lauriston Street
Edinburgh EH3 9DQ
Comapny No. SC252147
(same address as for Caledonian Banking Group -
no. 1 above)
Just for your information?
So 1st document bank and signatory are real things AND I see no obvious mistakes.
Regardless it is widely known that Mubarak has great wealth whilst his people struggle daily.
Posted by: Kelly | Sunday, 06 February 2011
Kelly you beat me by a minute!
http://www.offshorealert.com/message_bo ... 2&page=249
I was going to post that too.
But that is not all!!
The British FSA lists the Caledonian Banking Group as a money laundering operation - well I do consider all unauthorised banks to be money laundering operations!
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/pages/Doing/Regul ... rnet.shtml
Simply, even if the sum of 620 billion USD seems to be a way off (still, where would one get 10-30 billion USD in 1976??) All the stones fit into each other, this simply looks real!
Posted by: Gustaf | Sunday, 06 February 2011
I is widely known that swiss companies with foreign CEOs, etc. starting with the ECO* or *TRADE or INTER* are money laundering operations primarily serving customers who are statesmen too.
So if these documents are fake, they are dome with real people and real companies which already deal with very real money laundering operations, that includes the Barclays Bank - support for Zimbabwe dictator, funny arms trade, etc.
I just wish this was a joke. I really do.
Posted by: Gustaf | Sunday, 06 February 2011
Ecotrade Invest AG on Google Finance. Looks like it existed for a few months back in 2009:
http://www.google.com/finance?q=ETR:EKY
(Given the temporary nature of this company, it would agree with the theories of a money-laundering holding company)
Caledonian Group website:
http://www.caledonian.com/index.php?pageId=75(Compare the crest on the website with what's on the document, it is very close)
AboveTopSecret.org is currently doing a full analysis on the authenticity of these docs:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread659855/pg1
Posted by: Sam | Monday, 07 February 2011
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"I can confirm that Switzerland has frozen possible assets of the former Egyptian president with immediate effect," spokesman Lars Knuchel said soon after Mubarak bowed to 18 days of mass protests. "As a result of this measure any assets are frozen for three years."
He did not say how much money was involved or where it was.
Assets belonging to Mubarak's associates would also be targeted so as to limit the chance of state funds being plundered, the ministry said. Mubarak and his associates would be prevented from selling or otherwise disposing of property, notably real estate.
In recent years, Switzerland has worked hard to improve its image as a haven for ill-gotten assets.
It has also frozen assets belonging to Tunisia's former president Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali, ousted by popular protests last month, and Ivory Coast's Laurent Gbagbo, who has refused to step down after an election which the outside world says he lost.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/ ... 3820110211
Nordic wrote:Plutonia wrote:Quote:
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@ioerror Mubarak has property in California, around hollywood but unable to find address
I'll gladly deliver a bag of shit to that place, if anyone can find the address.
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