Huge explosion in Oslo

[barracuda]

It seems he's advising that manicured and PhotoShopped images be ready for distribution after the fact, so the use of these images fits the program outlined here pretty well.

So stickdog, are we to understand that Breivik and Berwick are the same individual?

[stickdog99]

Yes. They are the same pathetic "superpowered lone wolf."

[stickdog99]

Here's the one caveat. Just because this guy wrote this thing and emailed it to everyone as a warning (going against his own supposed advice if you read the document) doesn't mean that he managed to carry the whole thing out on his own.

[MacCruiskeen]

Well, many Scandinavians do speak and even write extremely good English*, but did he really compose that gigantic screed himself? In the various bits of it that I managed to read, the English is not just grammatically flawless but it has the kind of confident fluency that non-native speakers very rarely achieve, especially in writing.

Or is there any indication that he hired a translator, or at least a proofreader?

Why English anyway, especially in a tome the size of Ulysses, if he was such a fanatical Norwegian nationalist and hater of "multiculturalism"?

*e.g. Penguin/Gnomad, Rocket Man, Dradin Kastell, etc., all on this very board. I'd be very curious to hear how they see this. Are there any detectable "Norwegianisms" in his opus magnum at all?

On Edit: OK, I downloaded the whole damn thing and found this on page 15:

It should be noted that English is my secondary language and due to certain security precautions I was unable to have the documents professionally edited and proof read. Needless to say, there is a potential for improving it literarily. As such, consider it a ”first edition draft”. The responsibility falls upon you now as I will, for obvious reasons, not be able to develop it any further.

Any and all individuals with the appropriate skills are encouraged to contribute to a second edition of this compendium by improving and expanding it where needed.

Sincere and patriotic regards,

Andrew Berwick, London, England - 2011

Funnily enough, that "secondary language" blip is one of the few occasions when "Andrew Berwick" actually sounds like a foreigner. It's almost as if he's just remembered to make a point of doing so.

[semper occultus]

[Harvey]

That's about the size of it, but with the technology available at the time, my avatar was a far better job.

[stickdog99]

After thinking about this one thing that sticks out is that if this guy actually wrote this manifesto and meant to follow it, then murdering 80 kids simply does not fit in with what he wrote (although completing multiple operations on the same day does fit in). It is more than possible that he was "assisted" with the second phase of his operation. But maybe he just got amped up on stims and steroids and like any murderous bully on a rampage sought out the targets of least resistance.

[Pierre d'Achoppement]

wonder where he had that "marxist hunter" badge made

[stickdog99]

Well, many Scandinavians do speak and even write extremely good English*, but did he really compose that gigantic screed himself? In the various bits of it that I managed to read, the English is not just grammatically flawless but it has the kind of confident fluency that non-native speakers very rarely achieve, especially in writing.

Or is there any indication that he hired a translator, or at least a proofreader?

Why English anyway, especially in a tome the size of Ulysses, if he was such a fanatical Norwegian nationalist and hater of "multiculturalism"?

*e.g. Penguin/Gnomad, Rocket Man, Dradin Kastell, etc., all on this very board. I'd be very curious to hear how they see this. Are there any detectable "Norwegianisms" in his opus magnum at all?

On Edit: OK, I downloaded the whole damn thing and found this on page 15:

It should be noted that English is my secondary language and due to certain security precautions I was unable to have the documents professionally edited and proof read. Needless to say, there is a potential for improving it literarily. As such, consider it a ”first edition draft”. The responsibility falls upon you now as I will, for obvious reasons, not be able to develop it any further.

Any and all individuals with the appropriate skills are encouraged to contribute to a second edition of this compendium by improving and expanding it where needed.

Sincere and patriotic regards,

Andrew Berwick, London, England - 2011

If this document is real (and I am leaning strongly in this direction at the moment), the guy clearly obsessed over almost every word.

[sunny]

Nothing less than iron-clad proof will convince me this schmuck acted alone.

[stickdog99]

Everyone assuming that there is no way this guy acted alone should read this:

http://www.2shared.com/file/M-s-2fBD/20 ... ofInd.html

[8bitagent]

The emerging story of this double massacre in Norway strikes me as not just deeply horrible but also increasingly weird.

I agree there. It just seems so alien to what we've seen before. And that picture, I keep being reminded if Aaron Eckhart had played the Joker and not Two Face in the Dark Knight.
For some reason I can picture all the details Im reading. But yeah, it's wholly bizarre not just because it turned out not to be a schoolkid with a gun(like a lot of european shootings) or a "jihadist".
The scope is rather huge too, especially for such a small nation and the challenge of getting to the second location. The artificial facebook page too...almost seems like a hollow bookshelf in Batman's study.
It's like one of those psychological thrillers, where nothing seems real except for the killings themselves.

God, the damage to a small society like Norway is going to be staggering. All the parents, families, friends, neighbours, classrooms sharing the same wound of a murdered child, and that's only ground zero of where the psychic fallout begins.

Many of the parents still don't know the fate of their children as I understand it, because a number are still missing or not identified. It's unimaginably horrific. Though it can't bring back the dead or remove the trauma of the survivors and the families, I just hope that all the guilty parties are brought to justice.

It's horrific reading the accounts from survivors and what went down(that we know so far)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43866895/ns ... ws-europe/

Apparently it went on for an hour. He would go up and say "come play with me", and just start shooting. He'd find kids hiding in ditches or behind trees and blast them. And then ran around the island pretending to be a rescue cop and then shot more. And concentrated a lot of firepower on kids trying to swim away. One survivor said he would have drowned had it not been for a rescue boat. I imagine a few kids either wounded or not probably drowned, as even during the summer I can only imagine how cold those Northern European waters are. Pure evil and terror.

[Pierre d'Achoppement]

weird thing about the aquaman pic to me is that he is clearly supposed to be pointing that rifle at some imaginary target but both his eyes are visible and his expression is just a blank. i dont know anything about weapons but if you are pretending to take aim wouldnt you put the whatsitcalled to your eye?

[stickdog99]

More weirdness

[MacCruiskeen]

Color me convinced. I don't think even Hugh Manatee's screenwriters could make this stuff up.

Colour me unconvinced. HM's screenwriters are among the few people with the means and the motive to make such stuff up, not to mention the patience, the leisure and the money.

Reminder: This is a gigantic tome written exclusively in English and published online under the name "Andrew Berwick".

Could it possibly be that our trusted intelligence agencies do not have ready access to many fluent writers of Norwegian? It could possibly be. Fluent writers of Norwegian are kind of hard to find, outside of Norway, and even inside Norway, at least when you want them to write half a million pages of dense propaganda to justify a forthcoming massacre of Norwegian men, women and children.