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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:24 pm

I had to post this video. I just found it on The Arabist and it shows the sequence of events. It's in Arabic, but the visuals speak for themselves (one very graphic image -- skip 3:53 to 4:11 if you're squeamish. Yes, those are the brains of a man crushed by a tank):



The chants during the march:

"El-Shaab Youreed Esqat el Moushir" -- The People Want the Downfall of the Field-Marshal!

"Kyrie Eleison" - a prayer

"Selmeya!" - Peaceful!

When the tanks first come, a woman screams, "What are they doing?"

At 5:16, the old man says:

My name is Ibrahim Azzouz. They ambushed us. They let us continue until we reached the Radio and Television building and suddenly there were army divisions, I don't know where they came from. They began to shoot and shoot into the people at the front, and then we found the sticks coming down on us and bang, bang, bang, we fell to the ground. Afterwards, the armored trucks came, weaving from left to right and plowing into the people. Some had their heads crushed and others were split in two. Horrible! The army! The army that's supposed to protect us, runs us over?


The man at 5:56 is shouting:

We are the sons of one nation, people! We are brothers! Calm down, have patience! Patience! Patience!


The young man on the floor at 6:45 is screaming, "My daughter! My daughter!"

At 6:51, the man with the bloody face says his name, which I can't make out, then:

From Ezbet el-Nakhl (a poor suburb of Cairo), brother of Mina, whom they laid to sleep and put to rest inside there. Who put him to rest? The terrorist Tantawy, the Field Marshall, not another Tantawy. He put him inside. But he's blind, because if he'd seen the ones who came before him, the ones who are thrown in prison, he would have learned a lesson. But the day will come and God will take His revenge. And not just on him, but on all of them. As for me, I want to go out so they can grind me up like the people out there.


The final scenes are from the funeral, where the mourners chant: "The people want the downfall of the Field-Marshal!"
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:30 pm

Statement of the US Embassy in Cairo:

We are deeply concerned by the violence between demonstrators and security forces in Cairo October 9, which resulted in a number of deaths among both sides. We express our condolences to their families and loved ones. We note Prime Minister Sharaf's call for an investigation, and appeal to all parties to remain calm.

Contrary to press reports, the U.S. has made no offers to send troops to protect Coptic places of worship in Egypt. Link


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:08 pm

A good Socialist analysis:

    ...This most deadly crackdown of the military junta against protesters so far comes amidst a massive wave of strikes and protests in the last weeks. Since the end of Ramadan, hundreds of thousands of workers—including teachers, public transportation workers, doctors and industrial workers—have been on strike demanding higher wages, better working conditions and social equality.

    During the strikes and protests, workers also demanded the fall of the military junta. It is widely seen as an extension of the Mubarak regime, intent on continuing the anti-democratic and anti-social policies of the former dictator, who was forced out of office by mass protests on February 11.

    The renewed protests have sent shock waves through the Egyptian ruling elite, with spokesmen of the bourgeoisie warning of “another revolution” and demanding an end to strikes.

    What is happening in Egypt now “is very reminiscent of 2 and 3 February,” noted Randa Abul Azm, a journalist with the satellite channel Al-Arabiya. In those days the Mubarak regime also cracked down on independent media and worked together with thugs during the infamous “Battle of the Camels” to clear protesters from Tahrir Square. One female protester told Al Ahram Online that the “army is treating us the same way Mubarak treated protesters during the revolution.”

    The junta is working hand-in-hand with its supporters in the official parties and “independent” trade unions to stop the strikes and bring the situation under control. While the military try to forcibly break up the strikes, leaders of the Independent Teachers Union and the Independent Union of Public Transport Workers have called off mass strikes—even though the junta had refused to make any concessions.

    Most of Egypt’s bourgeois parties signed a deal with the SCAF for a “schedule for the remaining tasks yet to be accomplished during the transitional period.” The document states that the military will keep power at least until the end of 2012, contradicting the generals’ initial pledges to stand down after six months to free the way for democratic elections.

    The current deal aims to prop up the junta, though more Egyptians are hostile to Mubarak's generals in the SCAF than ever before.

    In recent weeks the junta has continuously tightened its grip on power and stepped up its violence against protesters and strikers. It began to apply an anti-strike and protest law and announced an extension of the emergency laws; scores of protesters have been arrested, sent to military trials and reportedly been tortured by police and military forces.

    The massive violence of the military unleashed on Sunday is a warning to the Egyptian working class: the junta is preparing even greater violence to crush the revolution. The attempt to incite sectarian strife between Copts and Muslims has been repeatedly used by the Egyptian bourgeoisie to distract from the class struggle.

    Just a few weeks before the Egyptian Revolution began on January 25, a bomb attack was carried out against a Coptic church in Alexandria, killing over twenty people. There are many indications that the Egyptian secret services, working with extremist Salafi groups, were behind the attack.

    Western governments have largely passed over the Egyptian junta’s Sunday massacre in silence. They all regard the Egyptian junta as the backbone of capitalist rule and the main defender of their imperialist interests in Egypt and throughout the region. Their silence shows that they back the junta’s criminal acts, just as they backed Mubarak.

    Only last week US Secretary of Defence and former head of the CIA Leon Panetta met Field Marshal Tantawi in Cairo. According to media reports, Panetta praised “the council's ability to bypass all obstacles during the transitional period.”

    According to the Washington Post, Panetta was “full of praise during his visit,” saying: “I really do have full confidence in the process that the Egyptian military is overseeing. I think they're making good progress.” Link
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Nordic » Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:10 am

I just wanted to say "thank you", Alice, for letting us know what's really going on. I really have nothing else I can say, it's all so incredibly sad. There are no words.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby IanEye » Wed Oct 12, 2011 7:59 am

yeah, what Nordic said. Thanks....
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Peachtree Pam » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:38 am

Thank you, Alice, for your invaluable insight and courage.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:18 pm

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Once again I am grateful to you for these informative, straight-to-the-meat, passionate and detailed reports. Wow. Where else can one find such reporting on Egypt in English? (Thanks for the site recommendations too. I drop in on some of those.)

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Simulist » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:38 pm

Thanks, Alice. You're a gift.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:51 am

This is a surprisingly good report from "60 Minutes", maybe you've all seen it. My only objection is to the reporter's little speech from 10:40 to 10:55, in which he reveals his rather appalling ignorance of modern Egyptian history. "There's never been a revolution in Egypt"!!

In the past century (more or less) alone, there have been three important popular revolutions, all of which provided a deep well-spring of inspiration for the January 25th, 2011 revolution. First, the Urabi Revolution in 1881, driven by the people's desire to be free of British and French imperialist domination and of the Western-dominated monarchy, which was only defeated when the British invaded and occupied Egypt militarily in 1882. Then there was the 1919 Revolution led by Saad Zaghloul, which failed to end the British military occupation, but did force the British to withdraw most of their troops and to grant Egypt "limited independence". Then, of course, there was the 1952 Revolution, which began as a military coup by junior officers and evolved into a revolution when it ended the monarchy and established Egypt as a republic, was embraced by the people and instigated wide-ranging economic and social reforms.

The Egyptian people lack neither brave and committed revolutionaries nor the deep desire to be free, as the reporter would have learned had he bothered to inform himself. The legions of political activists who have and continue to face torture, assassination and imprisonment to this day in order for their people to live free in their own land, amply testify to this.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:47 am

Downtown last night, Muslim and Christian Egyptians gathered on short notice to mourn the martyrs of "Black Sunday" and to call for an end to military rule. I don't have time to translate now, but I think the images speak for themselves.

I'm off to Tahrir Square today, and will let you know if there's anything to report.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby beeline » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:28 pm

Alice....any thoughts on this?


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Worldview: Arab Spring in Cairo gives way to November chill

Trudy Rubin, Inquirer Opinion Columnist

CAIRO - The massive crowds of rebellious youths have long since left Tahrir Square, which is jammed again with honking cars and trucks stuck in endless gridlock.

Egypt's revolution is stuck in gridlock, too, trapped by a standoff between seculars and Islamists. The Egyptian military is worsening the tensions. As elections approach, the generals are trying to ensure they will continue their dominant role even after the voting.

Why have things gone so wrong? I asked three leaders of the Tahrir revolt - whom I had interviewed during the heady days of the Arab Spring.

Their answers, and their stories, illustrate how much has already changed in Egypt - and the difficulty of predicting how the revolution will end.

Surgeon Shadi El Ghazali Harb, 32, raced home from London when the Tahrir Square revolt began. He soon became the head of a liberal youth group and one of the coordinators of the demonstrations. In February, as we sat in a Cairo café frequented by political activists, he insisted that liberals and social democrats must join one big coalition to "fight back the Muslim Brotherhood" at the polls.

Ghazali Harb told me he intended to run for parliament on that coalition ticket. He also said his biggest fear was that a new constitution would fail to remove Article II, the 1980 proviso that makes the principles of Islam "the source" of legislation.

This week, the doctor-activist said he had decided not to run, because he believed the military would still retain the real power after forthcoming elections.

The new parliament is supposed to choose a committee that will write a new constitution. But the military fears that the Islamists will win a majority and will remove the constitutional provisions that guarantee the military's power. So the generals are trying to promulgate rules that ensure that the new parliament will be toothless - and that civilians can't control the military's power, or budget.

Like many liberals here, Ghazali Harb is torn. He, too, fears the Islamists. But he says the revolution that toppled a military dictator will be a failure if it doesn't establish civilian rule.

And he bemoans the fact that the Tahrir Square youths were unable to translate their triumph into practical political terms. "We were too concerned with demonstrations rather than building an organization," he says. "We could not get ourselves together and stand as a united front before the Islamists and the old elite."

Mohammed Abbas, 26, a business administration grad of Cairo University, was one of the young Muslim Brothers who defied his elders by joining the Tahrir revolt and working closely with liberals and leftists. In February, he told me the Muslim Brotherhood was too resistant to change. Later that spring, the Brotherhood expelled him and about 50 other young activists from the movement.

This was clearly painful for Abbas. However, he has moved on. I interviewed him in the offices of his new political party, Al Tayyar (The Current), part of a coalition that represents the spirit of Tahrir Square. "We found a third way between secular and Islamists," he said. His coalition includes leftists, social democrats, and religious youth.

He said his Tahrir experience taught him how to "get into conversations with people totally different from myself and even admit the other might be right." But he fears that the values of Tahrir are being dissipated because of the clash between seculars and Islamists. The only way to soften that clash, he says, is through fair elections. The military's plan to cramp the parliament, he says, will only make those divisions worse.

Hossam Bahgat, the dynamic executive director of the Egyptian Initiative for Personal Rights, told me in April that the Tahrir experience had taught Egyptians how to change their own lives. This week he told me, "It's like a different planet and a different era since April."

His gloom is fed by the military's arrest of prominent bloggers and the strong reemergence of the secret police, who are intimidating media and civil society organizations. They are also sending thousands of Egyptians to military trials.

"They are basically building a military regime to replace Mubarak's police state," says Bahgat. He believes the only way to tame the Islamists is through elections that pull them into the system. Suppressing them, he says, will only re-create the tensions that led to revolution.

"The spirit of Tahrir is still there," he says, "but the transition is blocked, so we will face the same demons as under Mubarak." The military's attempt to create stability by force, he says, will sow the same seeds of instability that brought the Mubarak regime down. I fear he's right.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:28 pm

beeline wrote:Alice....any thoughts on this?

...The military's attempt to create stability by force, he says, will sow the same seeds of instability that brought the Mubarak regime down. I fear he's right.


So do I. Few people doubt that the upcoming elections will be a fiasco, and very possibly marked by serious violence. Between the absolute military dictatorship, and the Islamists who enjoy unlimited funds from the Gulf monarchies and endless indulgence from the same military junta that is busily targeting and annihilating the revolutionaries, it's getting ugly. The youth, the workers, the peasants and the unemployed are just as disenfranchised as they were under Mubarak. Corruption remains rampant, and there has been no purge of Mubarak's police state, which includes agents planted in the media, universities, local administrators and in the public and private sector. The media is being stifled, sometimes by force. The regime is using the same sectarian incitement that Mubarak used, to divide and rule. Grave human rights violations are still being perpetrated by the police and now by the military police as well. The Prime Minister and his government are stubbornly in place, with various ministers answering widespread calls for their resignation by claiming that they offered their resignation to the Armed Forces Council, "but it was rejected". That hasn't stopped them from initiating new talks with foreign lenders to dramatically increase Egypt's foreign debt by around $35 billion (Egypt's total foreign debt is currently around $30 billion).

The anger is palpable and growing among large sectors in the society, especially the young people, who have become highly politicized and militant and who are more determined than ever to free this country from dictatorship and oppression in any form, regardless of the cost to themselves.

This is what the Obama administration describes as the military dictatorship's "good progress" overseeing the transition to democracy.

The country is being hijacked, and the mood is tense as we head into winter. The situation couldn't possibly be less "stable". Any predictions at this point would be premature -- there are too many flash-points and any one of them could set off an eruption with unknown consequences.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:53 pm

BTW, Alaa Abd El Fattah is the brother of activist Mona Seif, who was featured in the "60 Minutes" video I posted earlier. Both his parents are long-time champions for freedom and human rights. His mother is the heroic Leila Seif, about whom I posted much earlier in this thread.

When the warrant was issued for his arrest, he was in the US participating in the Occupy Wall Street movement, and he chose to return to Egypt and face his accusers. Alaa has been active in the "No to Military Trials for Civilians" movement and upon his arrest, he refused to answer charges or respond to questioning on the grounds that the military prosecutor has no legal jurisdiction over him.

In a truly Orwellian twist, Alaa is being charged with "sectarian incitement" leading up to the massacre of peaceful Coptic demonstrators by the military, and of violently attacking military personnel and taking their weapons. They have no shame, no shame at all.

    After Egypt's revolution, I never expected to be back in Mubarak's jails

    I have been locked up, again on a set of flimsy charges, five years after imprisonment for supporting the judiciary

    Alaa Abd El Fattah
    guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 2 November 2011 11.28 GMT

    I never expected to repeat the experience of five years ago: after a revolution that deposed the tyrant, I go back to his jails?

    The memories come back to me, all the details of imprisonment; the skills of sleeping on the floor, nine men in a six-by-12-foot (two-by-four-metre) cell, the songs of prison, the conversations. But I absolutely can't remember how I used to keep my glasses safe while I slept.

    They have been stepped on three times already today. I suddenly realise they're the same glasses that were with me in my last imprisonment; the one for supporting the Egyptian judiciary in 2006. And that I am locked up, again pending trial, again on a set of loose and flimsy charges – the one difference is that instead of the state security prosecutor we have the military prosecutor – a change in keeping with the military moment we're living now.

    Last time my imprisonment was shared with 50 colleagues from the "Kifaya" movement. This time, I'm alone, in a cell with eight men who shouldn't be here; poor, helpless, unjustly held – the guilty among them and the innocent.

    As soon as they learned I was one of the "young people of the revolution" they started to curse out the revolution and how it had failed to clean up the ministry of the interior. I spend my first two days listening to stories of torture at the hands of a police force that insists on not being reformed; that takes out its defeat on the bodies of the poor and the helpless.

    From their stories I discover the truth of the great achievements of the "return of security" to our streets. Two of my cellmates are first-timers, ordinary young men without an atom of violence in them. And their crime? Armed gangster formations. Yes; Abu Malek alone is an armed gangster formation of one. Now I know what the ministry of the interior means when it regales us every day with news of the discovery and arrest of armed gangsters. We can congratulate ourselves on the return of security.

    In the few hours that sunlight enters the dark cell we read what a past cellmate has inscribed on the walls in an elegant Arabic calligraphy.

    Four walls covered from floor to ceiling in Qur'anic verses and prayers and invocations and reflections. And what reads like a powerful desire to repent.

    Next day we discover, in a low corner, the date of execution of our cellmate of the past. Our tears conquer us.

    The guilty make plans for repentance. What can the innocent do?

    My thoughts wander as I listen to the radio. I hear the speech of the general as he inaugurates the tallest flagpost in the world – which will surely break all records. I wonder: does pushing the name of the martyr Mina Danial as one of those "accused of instigation" in my case break a record in insolence? They must be the first who murder a man and not only walk in his funeral but spit on his body and accuse it of a crime. Or perhaps this cell could break a record in the number of cockroaches in a prison cell? Abu Malek interrupts my thoughts: "I swear by God if this revolution doesn't do something radical about injustice it will sink without a trace."

    This article was written by Alaa Abd El Fattah on 1 November 2011 from cell No 19, the Appeals Prison, Bab el-Khalq, Cairo. It is being published in Arabic by the Egyptian newspaper Al Shorouk and in English by the Guardian. Link
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:30 am

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Hola Alice, i'd like to endorse the appreciation here to and add my own. gracias! be safe.

and then there's this:

Alaa al-Aswany on the people who run things
By Author Issandr El Amrani
Date November 2, 2011 at 8:52 AM

The Egypt Report has translated a recent piece by Alaa al-Aswany in which he imagines a conversation between two senior officials (you can imagine what four-letter acronym they might be a part of). Depressing reading — and you get a better idea of who the two might be at the end.


1: And what ever became of the boy in Tora Prison?

2: Well, the boy’s name is Essam Atta. He had been serving a two-year sentence after being convicted in a military trial. It seems that he smuggled a mobile SIM card inside the prison. He then spoke out to an officer in an annoying way, so the officer put some pressure on him on in order to teach him a lesson. The boy couldn’t endure it, and he died.

1: Be careful, this might become a big case like the Khaled Said case.

2: Rest assured, we’re making our account of the incident perfect. All the relevant agencies have decisive evidence to prove that the boy swallowed a packet of drugs and died as a result of a drop in blood pressure.

1: Fine, but the reports of Khaled Said said the same thing, and the whole world went crazy.

2: But the world can’t go crazy right now. The people are exhausted, and have become satisfied with anything we do.

1: But if the people are satisfied, why did they rise up and rebel against our legitimacy? Do you actually believe that to this day I don’t understand what happened during the events of last January?

2: Well, your Excellency, I hope you can accept one observation from your student. The reason behind the events of last January was that the security apparatus got it wrong. It allowed the people to gather together, having confidence in its ability to break them up by force. The important thing now is that from the outset we don’t let them gather together. We now are focused on violent preemptive actions in order to prevent demonstrations from even starting.

1: Yeah, we should have hit them stronger. We were mistaken. We thought the Egyptians were all just simple people. I never imagined they could have done something like that.

2: The people are simple, sir. The problem lies in the children on Facebook, they like stirring up problems among the people.

1: These are agents, traitors, only looking to sabotage the country

2: Well, thank god, we have righted our country. I hope that you can rest assured, your Excellency, that the children of Tahrir have lost their popularity in the street.

1: How so?!!!

2: Sir, the situation in Egypt is unbearable. No security, no tourism, no economy. The entire country is in a state of chaos. The community groups are even somewhat against them. Everyday there are strikes, and sit-ins, and thugs, and killings and cut roadways. The Egyptian citizenry has become scared of itself, and of its children.

1: Better…make them learn. The most important thing is that people understand that all these calamities are caused by the children of Tahrir.

2: Of course, the people understand this and have begun to hate them. We’ve exposed them in the media, and we’ve shown the people that they are agents. Now when they go to make a demonstration or a sit-in, you’ll find honorable people striking back at them and handing them over to the military police.

1: These are the real people of Egypt, the ones that need no incitement.

2: I hope, your Excellency, you forget about the events of last January.

1: Are you serious?!! The scenes from last January were terrible. I couldn’t possibly forget them.

2: Sir, believe me. The events of last January are finished forever, and it will never repeat again.

1: Are you sure?

2: It was a short flood that left things unchanged. Politically, we’ll take from it as much as we spent on it. Right now most Egyptians hate what happened last January and they regret it. They hope to return to how things were. The people have started to say “At least in the old days there was security.” All that incitement that occurred last January, they will never fall for that again. They’re divided and split into groups…the Islamists against the Liberals, Salafists against the Copts – Tahrir square is finished. We learned our lesson, sir. The true men in the state security did an excellent job. We know the weak spot of every group, and we’re using it to play with their minds. After a while, their million man Friday demonstrations turned into demonstrations of at most 1000 people.

1: May god bless you.


http://www.arabist.net/blog/2011/11/2/a ... hings.html


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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:42 am

Thank you so much, vanlose. BTW, the translation of that imaginary dialogue is incomplete. The rest of it makes clear that "1" is Mubarak, and, slightly more ambiguously (for obvious reasons) that "2" is Egypt's absolute ruler and head of the SCAF, Field-Marshall Tantawy.

Lately, I've been forced to finally overcome my fear of Twitter and figure out how to use it, because Twitter and Youtube are among the very few sources of real news as it happens, before it's tweaked and twisted beyond recognition. For example, last Monday there was an impromptu march in support of Alaa Abdel Fattah that began with about 200 activists and gathered people along the way from downtown to the prison where he was being held. It quickly swelled to several thousand whose voices echoed throughout the heart of the city. The media unanimously ignored it. In the Egyptian media, there was NO coverage at all of the demonstration. At the same time, echoing the wishful thinking of the pigs in Alaa al-Aswany's imaginary dialogue, all the media was filled with political analysis and commentary observing how Egyptians are no longer participating in demonstrations, that they've become apathetic and disinterested.

Once again, the Mubarak regime's failed tactics are being dusted off and used: on the first day of the January 25th revolution, when close to 50,000 gathered in Tahrir Square, the media was showing scenes of empty spaces and estimating that there were just a few "tens of protesters".

This is last Monday's demonstration, which according to the state media did not occur, and which according to the "independent" media was a small march of "less than a thousand". (with English subtitles):



PS: an interesting note - at around 1:40, I recognized the guy with the white hair and glasses (not the albino guy in the earlier shots). He's a senior reporter and an anchorman for one of the "independent" tv news stations that didn't cover the march.
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