The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

I do not deny that it would't have been a target back then, but what is the point of putting out a game now, when it has been banned for a few decades and is not going to be reallowed?
(fwiw, it was partially banned in 1969 here, and completely banned in 1976).

This is where Jeff Wells bans me from a thread for using science to explain how psyops uses neurolinguistics, thanks to disrupting trolls trying to make the subject a no-go.

So I'll repeat what I posted above about 1962/63 when Carson finally published and a guy named Carson got a famous TV job-

The damning number of CIA-Hollywood movies with the word "bird" in the title that came out all of a sudden is what is NOW being covered up because not only does it give away the social-control-through-media game but this AHA can be re-triggered every time someone sees a bird. Which is why Carson was out-marketed the way she was back when she published.

There are two cover-ups in 'Angry Birds.'
> How psyops works like it did against Rachel Carson in '62/'63
> How 9/11 really happened, not the kamikaze cover story.

[hanshan]

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hanshan wrote:

The Master Game
Seek, above all, for a game worth playing. Such is the advice of the oracle to modern man. Having found the game, play it with intensity — play as if your life and sanity depend on it. (They do depend on it.) Follow the example of the French existentialists and flourish a banner bearing the word “engagement.” Though nothing means anything and all roads are marked “NO EXIT,” yet move as if your movements had some purpose. If life does not seem to offer a game worth playing, then invent one. For it must be clear, even to the most clouded intelligence, that any game is better than no game.
Robert S. deRopp

Agreed. I just don't think that this:

The Glass Bead Game takes place at an unspecified date, centuries into the future. Hesse suggested that he imagined the book's narrator writing around the start of the 25th century.[2] The setting is a fictional province of central Europe called Castalia, reserved by political decision for the life of the mind; technology and economic life are kept to a strict minimum. Castalia is home to an austere order of intellectuals with a twofold mission: to run boarding schools for boys, and to nurture and play the Glass Bead Game, whose exact nature remains elusive and whose devotees occupy a special school within Castalia known as Waldzell. The rules of the game are only alluded to, and are so sophisticated that they are not easy to imagine. Playing the game well requires years of hard study of music, mathematics, and cultural history. Essentially the game is an abstract synthesis of all arts and sciences. It proceeds by players making deep connections between seemingly unrelated topics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Glass_Bead_Game

Has a level dealing with this:

In the game, players use a slingshot to launch birds at pigs stationed on or within various structures, with the intent of destroying all the pigs on the playfield. As players advance through the game, new birds appear, some with special abilities that can be activated by the player.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_birds

This is a chaotic animation to a track from 'Castalia' by Mark Isham



Maybe the meeting point of the two worlds is alluded to by Hesse in this poem, from The Glass Bead Game -

But Secretly We Thirst…

Graceful as dancer’s arabesque and bow,

Our lives appear serene and without stress,

A gentle dance around pure nothingness

To which we sacrifice the here and now.

Our dreams are lovely and our game is bright,

So finely tuned, with many artful turns,

But deep beneath the tranquil surface burns

Longing for blood, barbarity, and night.

Freely our life revolves, and every breath

Is free as air; we live so playfully,

But secretly we crave reality:

Begetting, birth, and suffering, and death.




There is a branch of Pure Maths called category theory, which has always resonated with him as being the nearest thing to the GBG so far. Some folks (affectionately) call it Abstract Nonsense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_nonsense

correct attribution is:

For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have heart, on any path that may have heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel—looking, looking, breathlessly.

while S08 quoted deRopp ( & we referenced Huizinga). & while it's so GBG doesn't level w/ hurling birds at pigs Barra makes a cogent & witty reference (touché).
Barra:

This game was called "Smiter", and here you can see that though the medium of play has changed considerably as technology has advanced, the idea remains the same and the tradition of swineward bird-hurling would seem to be a fundamental, if misunderstood, activity throughout history.

Indeed.

We were always partial to Abstract Nonsense. Lovely Searcher08,
& the allusion is there

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[barracuda]

This is where Jeff Wells bans me from a thread for using science to explain how psyops uses neurolinguistics, thanks to disrupting trolls trying to make the subject a no-go.

Yep.

[brekin]

hanshan wrote:

while S08 quoted deRopp ( & we referenced Huizinga). & while it's so GBG doesn't level w/ hurling birds at pigs Barra makes a cogent & witty reference (touché).

Barra:

Quote:
This game was called "Smiter", and here you can see that though the medium of play has changed considerably as technology has advanced, the idea remains the same and the tradition of swineward bird-hurling would seem to be a fundamental, if misunderstood, activity throughout history.

Indeed.

We were always partial to Abstract Nonsense. Lovely Searcher08,
& the allusion is there

Not sure if I follow you. Not sure if you even
were addressing that to me. But anyways,
you get a thumbs up for your enthusiasm.

[hanshan]

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hanshan wrote:

while S08 quoted deRopp ( & we referenced Huizinga). & while it's so GBG doesn't level w/ hurling birds at pigs Barra makes a cogent & witty reference (touché).

Barra:

Quote:
This game was called "Smiter", and here you can see that though the medium of play has changed considerably as technology has advanced, the idea remains the same and the tradition of swineward bird-hurling would seem to be a fundamental, if misunderstood, activity throughout history.

Indeed.

We were always partial to Abstract Nonsense. Lovely Searcher08,
& the allusion is there

Not sure if I follow you. Not sure if you even
were addressing that to me. But anyways,
you get a thumbs up for your enthusiasm.

yeah was addressing the error you made in attributing the deRopp quote to me
(among other referents & references)
( hope that's clear) great collage, btw (just love this board)
applauded for enthusiasm? (tx) & gotta be a first


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[gnosticheresy_2]

This is where Jeff Wells bans me from a thread for using science to explain how psyops uses neurolinguistics, thanks to disrupting trolls trying to make the subject a no-go.

Yep.

Disrupting trolls being the rest of the board

[Gnomad]

Since this thread went to this direction, here are some older threads about the subject of video games in general, or as a side dish to violence and recruitment + propaganda...

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=25629
Modern Warfare 2 depicts State Sponsored Terrorism?

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18753
6/22 NYTimes: "Hidden Messages in a Video Game"

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21283
Violent video games linked to aggression in children

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17508
Grand Theft misogyny

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13984
British Intelligence Use Online Games To Recruit

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14681
The RI Clusterfuck Video Game(s) of the Year

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=31206
What are you currently installing/playing?
(this one being probably the only positive thread of the above! with tips on good games and software)

[MacCruiskeen]

The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds

1. No, it hasn't.

2. No, it hasn't, not even metaphorically.

3. "The World" (i.e., humankind, goes without saying [why?]) has spent the last seven [in figures: 7] thousand years learning how to farm, learning how to become independent of farming, learning how to extract and process metals from the earth, learning how to make increasingly complex constructive and destructive objects, learning how to bamboozle, conquer and sustainably exploit its more unfortunate members in the service of a self-adoring few, and, in short, precisely not indulging in pea-brained purchasable "imaginative" diversions but in fact observing and altering its given and unavoidable lifelong environment with shocking and (by now) catastrophic effectiveness.

4. What the fuck is "Angry Birds" anyway? That a head of state even knows what the fuck it is says more about our current predicament than anything she could possibly say about it or Pacman or Lady Gaga or Zizek (or crack cocaine, or porn, or Quentin Tarantino), or even about the melting icecaps.

5. "The World has spent 200,000 years playing Angry Birds" is perhaps not the dumbest sentence ever spoken, but it's definitely in the running for the most-untruthful-ever RI thread-title.

6. If "the World" [sic] really had spent the last 200,000 years playing Angry Birds (or pelota, or camogie, or scrabble, or squash), it would certainly
be in much better shape than it is now.


Grrrr. These people really piss me off.

[undead]

Nobody gives a fuck if the CIA designed Angry Birds. There very well could have, but even if it's true that information is irrelevant. People would continue to play Angry Birds even if they knew this to be true. This is an example of a problem that needs to be solved by individuals, instead of being blamed on a convenient scapegoat. Nobody can stop people from wasting time playing cellphone games, except for those individuals who choose to waste their time, or maybe their parents if they are children.

Let's blame the CIA for everything!

Tell a heroin addict:

"You know, the CIA trafficked that heroin into your ghetto in order to keep you subservient to their domination and finance their secret wars at the same time. Take that, CIA!"

"But I'm still addicted to heroin, how does knowing that help me?"

"You don't understand, the CIA controls everything! They designed the cartoon character on your box of cereal!"

"Who cares who designed the cartoon character on my box of cereal? I am addicted to heroin and trapped in a downward spiral of self-destruction."

"Doesn't knowing exactly how the CIA controls everything help you?"

"Help me do what?"

"You know, help you STOP THE CIA FROM CAUSING ALL THE PROBLEMS!"

"No, actually it only makes me feel more helpless in the face of such a colossal and all-powerful oppressor. I fucking know already, man. It's like you're rubbing it in my face. What the fuck do you do, anyway?"

"I tell everybody how the CIA controls the media."

"I see. And do they pay you to do that?"

[uncomfortable silence]

[wintler2]

DDT is still manufactured in India & China apparently, and as it can evaporate from soil and rain down again elsewhere its not like its gone away. The focus on DDT anyway is scapegoating, theres many other very toxic chemicals being produced in very large quantities - and this is the system we're supposed to want to save?

So anyway, this game works by .. throwing pigs to kill birds? Gee that'll engender a respectful relationship to other forms of life, recognising their right to exist outside of their usefulness to human whims .. not.

.."Doesn't knowing exactly how the CIA controls everything help you?"
.."No, actually it only makes me feel more helpless in the face of such a colossal and all-powerful oppressor. I fucking know already, man. It's like you're rubbing it in my face.

That may be your response, but its not the only possible one. Unplug, purge, reboot - there are better operating systems, much lower on the despair & shoot-the-messenger overheads.

[Hammer of Los]

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Marvellous posts by Hanshan, Searcher08 and Brekin. You guys are just great! And undead always rocks.

And I liked that de Ropp fellow too. Master game player eh? And a householder too into the bargain. That is why I am true neutral with chaotic good inclination, like a benevolent druid.

And the glass bead game sounds like Alchemy, or The Revealing Science of God, to me.

Or simply The Way.

I read the summary of Hesse's work on Wiki. That's all I need to know. It very heavily resonated with me to say the least.

I always liked to play neverwinter nights online best, on a heavy roleplay server, where we would create and experience fantastic narratives of our own invention. I used to play online with a great group of very talented and intelligent people.

Ah those were the days. I wish I still had the time to do that, but responsibilities intervene.

Those who say endless diversion is irresponsible are correct.

But I always leavened enjoyment with learning. For without learning, we cannot act with intelligence.

Yet still, I would have been fine in my heaven if I had not looked out of the window and seen all the suffering in the world.

I could be bound in a nutshell, and count myself king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams.




ps I had never even heard of angry birds before this thread. I have no handheld devices. I dont own or use a mobile phone. I'm a sort of techno luddite.

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[Gnomad]

DDT is still manufactured in India & China apparently, and as it can evaporate from soil and rain down again elsewhere its not like its gone away. The focus on DDT anyway is scapegoating, theres many other very toxic chemicals being produced in very large quantities - and this is the system we're supposed to want to save?

So anyway, this game works by .. throwing pigs to kill birds? Gee that'll engender a respectful relationship to other forms of life, recognising their right to exist outside of their usefulness to human whims .. not.

Throwing birds to kill pigs, but yes.

I heard from an acquaintance who worked in Indonesia that there they also still use DDT, for example his hosts would spray the bedroom with it in the evening to kill mosquitoes and other insects before pulling the mosquito netting over their beds...

The latest fad re: poisons seems to be glyphosate, last summer I found out they spray it even on park grass..where people too sit and play. Not to mention it ends up all around. Just so the grass would be nice and homogenous. They tell us it is completely safe, except it turns out not to be so safe after all. Old story.

[MacCruiskeen]

Marvellous posts by Hanshan, Searcher08 and Brekin.

What about ME?

[undead]

That may be your response, but its not the only possible one. Unplug, purge, reboot - there are better operating systems, much lower on the despair & shoot-the-messenger overheads.

That is not my response, that is the response of most of the people out there who are going to believe you when you tell them about the CIA. People who claim to be trying to inform the public should try interfacing with the actual public once in a while, to get an idea of where most people are at, because places like this are not representative of the general public. I think everyone here knows that.

If somebody wanted to inform the public about this, they would choose a public forum instead of a place where everyone knows already. There are probably hundreds of other threads on the subject, but for some reason Hugh feels the need to interrupt conversations with this information, instead of posting to his own threads. He is probably just lonely and wanting attention.

Has anyone here recently tried to inform the ignorant masses of this information in person? Ever try walking up to a person on the street and telling them? What about co-workers? Does anyone have friends or co-workers that need to be constantly reminded of this information, even if they already know?

And I do tell everyone I know that the CIA controls the media, and that they should stop watching television and listening to FM radio. In person. Sometimes you make progress, but progress doesn't come from interrupting their conversations and repeating it ad nauseum. That is an indicator of generally poor social skills, and also a need for social attention which is not being met.

Also, nobody gives a fuck if Angry Birds was invented by the CIA. Even if they knew, they would play it anyway. The problem is that people want to waste their attention and escape from their existence in the real world. It doesn't matter who created the Angry Birds, which I also didn't know existed until I read this thread. People will waste their time on video games, drugs, and whatever else until they realize how they can improve their situation by stopping these habits. And constantly harping about CIA propaganda is not one of those ways.

[Hammer of Los]

Marvellous posts by Hanshan, Searcher08 and Brekin.

What about ME?

It goes without saying that you are great, Mac.

You are like Fionn mac Uail, he of fiery temperament, who ate the salmon of wisdom.*

As for me, I gave up fish when I became vegetarian.

I do see you misattributed my quote to Gnomad.

Who is also marvellous, by the way. And everyone else, including wintler2 is marvellous.




* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Fairy_Tales

ps I am still all for the ludic revolution. Shaking the spear of love in the city, yeah! Revolution for fun!