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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:24 pm

Throughout the length and breadth and Egypt, a grassroots campaign has been bringing activists into poor neighborhoods and rural villages to counter the media's lies, especially for those who don't have access to the internet or satellite tv. It's called "Kazeboon" (Liars). The location of the events are announced on Twitter and Facebook a few hours before, and people meet at the appointed time and place and begin to march, their numbers swelling as they go along. Then, once they reach the targeted neighborhood, they show videos that provide evidence of the junta's and the government's crimes directly to the people. This campaign has been very successful. Despite the constant threat of attack (and some actual violence) by police, soldiers and the regime's thugs, the sheer number of participants and witnesses has made it very difficult to attack them effectively.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Allegro » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:27 am

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Hello, Alice. If this video and statement from women occupying Wall Street is a repeat, then I'm glad to do so!

    Female Activist | Verdict has shamed military
    — Posted 3 weeks ago on Dec. 27, 2011,
    2:52 p.m. EST by Occupy Wall St

    A solidarity statement from the Women Occupying Wall Street to our Egyptian sisters. We send our strongest support and solidarity to the thousands of women in Tahrir Square and across Egypt protesting the unacceptable violent assault of women protesters by the military. We are troubled, shocked, and outraged at images of a woman protester being beaten and stripped in the streets.

    Systematic targeting, marginalization, silencing, and violence against women by anyone, especially the military authorities entrusted to protect us, are unacceptable.These tactics are brutal, criminal and dishonorable. We share your anger.

    We recognize the brave women of Egypt and women around the world who risk their lives to protest unjust systems. Women are powerful and essential forces in revolutions. Your power and courage are incredibly inspiring to all women.

    We send solidarity and encouragement to you in this honorable fight to protect women’s rights. We join you in outrage and support your fight for peace and justice. We stand united with all women of Egypt.

    United, we will never be defeated.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:44 am

January 25th: One year since the start of the Tahrir Square occupation that overthrew Mubarak.

My thoughts with Alice and the people of Egypt.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby crikkett » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:56 am

^^ mee too
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby crikkett » Wed Feb 01, 2012 4:13 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2012/02/ ... &seid=auto

More Than 70 Dead in Egyptian Soccer Pitch Invasion
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CAIRO (Reuters) - Seventy-three people were killed and at least 1,000 injured on Wednesday after a soccer pitch invasion in the Egyptian city of Port Said, a health ministry official said, in an incident that one player described as "a war, not football."

"This is unfortunate and deeply saddening. It is the biggest disaster in Egypt's soccer history," deputy health minister Hesham Sheiha told state television.

Violence at football matches across north Africa has increased significantly since political unrest sweeping across the region began more than a year ago.

Wednesday's trouble flared at the end of a match when Port Said team al-Masry beat Al Ahli, one of Egypt's most successful clubs, 3-1.

Live television footage showed fans running onto the field and chasing Ahli players. A small group of riot police formed a corridor to try to protect the players, but they appeared overwhelmed and fans were still able to kick and punch the players as they fled.

"This is not football. This is a war and people are dying in front of us. There is no movement and no security and no ambulances," Ahli player Mohamed Abo Treika told his club's television channel.

"I call for the premier league to be cancelled. This is horrible situation and today can never be forgotten."

State television reported that Egypt's football federation had indefinitely delayed premier league matches.

Another match in Cairo was halted by the referee after receiving news of the violence in Port Said, prompting fans to set parts of the stadium on fire, television footage showed.

(Reporting by Ali Abdelatti and Dina Zayed; editing by David Stamp)

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:49 pm

Today was a massacre, by far the biggest, but still another in a long line of massacres in the reign of terror that Egypt has endured under the SCAF since the removal of Mubarak.

The target was the football Ultras, who have heroically rushed to defend the revolutionaries from police and army attacks. They've been the most effective and brave defenders every time the regime uses its terror tactics, and this is the regime's revenge against them, using the usual combination of plainclothes officers and paid thugs.

Also, just yesterday the Minister of Interior went before the new parliament to insist that the State of Emergency under which Egyptians are deprived of their legal rights, is necessary to preserve order and prevent chaos. Public pressure on the parliament to use their legal power to nullify the State of Emergency has been enormous. Yesterday the Minister of Interior used words to describe the need for the State of Emergency. Today, the SCAF and its regime used deeds to terrorize people into acquiescence.

Finally, all the SCAF's machinations to fob off the Egyptian people with a faux "democracy" while holding all the reins of power have failed. The SCAF and the Muslim Brotherhood tried to scare people into staying home and cowering, via an absolutely massive campaign to persuade people that joining last Wednesday's demonstration against the SCAF would be suicide. There would be bombs, they said, not to mention a plot to set the country on fire, and terrorist cells. Stay home and "celebrate" on tv. This was the people's response to the SCAF and their partners, the Muslim Brotherhood last week:




The video was shot early in the day across the Nile from downtown, and shows people streaming across Kasr el Nil Bridge towards Tahrir Square. What it doesn't show is that all the streets of downtown were packed nearly solid, and that all the major roads leading to Cairo were filled with marchers coming from every major suburb, some reaching Tahrir late in the afternoon, when it had become impossible to get in.

It wasn't only Tahrir Square either; there were also large demonstrations all over Egypt, and a very similar dynamic characterized all of them. The message couldn't have been louder and clearer: the revolution continues, as strong as ever; it, rather than the fraudulent elections, reflects the true will of Egyptians; and nothing and nobody can stand in its way.

Right now, the revolution is demanding that the SCAF immediately step down and hand over all its political authority to the only elected body, the Parliament, until presidential elections can be held. It's a surprising demand on the surface, because the Speaker represents the Muslim Brotherhood, who are rapidly becoming as unpopular as the SCAF, but it's actually quite clever: if the Muslim Brotherhood refuses in the face of such a widespread demand, it exposes itself as a stooge or a cynical partner of the hated SCAF. If it accepts, then it will turn the SCAF against it, and thus will become much, much weaker without the support of the powerful military junta and the police state it heads.

Right now we're surfing channels and I'm also following on the internet. Nobody here is fooled by the attempt to portray this as a football riot. Though the Muslim Brothers are making themselves scarce, an impressive number of members of the Parliament are openly and powerfully accusing the SCAF of perpetrating this massacre and pledging to ensure that they are held legally as well as politically responsible.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby wintler2 » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:53 pm

wintler2 wrote:Is this a hit against the Ultra's?

During the 18-day revolt last year which toppled the regime, Ultras members decided to hit the streets as individuals yet became a full force. And after singing football chants inside stadiums, they began to belt out political chants which got them large public as well as media attention. Later, they were present at demonstrations, assisting and cheering on other protesters and activists in their ongoing battle against the authorities, protecting them from police and army attacks.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2012/1082/sc3001.htm


// on edit: So how can i help, at this distance? i'm guessing, pressure my own government to stop supporting the SCAF.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:59 pm

wintler2 wrote:Is this a hit against the Ultra's?

During the 18-day revolt last year which toppled the regime, Ultras members decided to hit the streets as individuals yet became a full force. And after singing football chants inside stadiums, they began to belt out political chants which got them large public as well as media attention. Later, they were present at demonstrations, assisting and cheering on other protesters and activists in their ongoing battle against the authorities, protecting them from police and army attacks.
http://www.english.globalarabnetwork.co ... -norm.html


Bingo, wintler2. Yes it was, and one would have to be willfully blind to doubt it.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:09 am

wintler2 wrote:So how can i help, at this distance? i'm guessing, pressure my own government to stop supporting the SCAF.


Let's put it this way: your money funds the SCAF to the tune of $1.3 billion annually. Your media is at least as dishonest as ours; check out this dishonest, malicious hit piece in Foreign Policy Ultra Violence: How Egypt’s soccer mobs are threatening the revolution.

Look at the video I posted, of the number of people who came out in Cairo alone last January 25th, to demand their freedom from the SCAF rule. All major media in the US, if they covered the demos at all, described them as "thousands" of Egyptians coming out to demand the removal of the SCAF. "Thousands"? One march, coming from Giza, consisted of at least 150,000 demonstrators who found themselves unable to enter downtown because of the MILLIONS who were already there.

The Western media has been suppressing the overwhelming evidence, including documentary evidence, of massive election fraud orchestrated by the SCAF to fill the parliament with Muslim Brotherhood and Salafist "representatives". There are already more than 500 lawsuits alleging criminal election tampering before the courts, including one that shows how 12 MILLION fraudulent voters for the Islamist parties were added to the list of legitimate voters (only 40 million Egyptians are eligible to vote -- but the official list of voters includes 52 million names, with 12 million repeated between 2 and 30 times in different electoral districts.) And that's not counting the deceased Egyptians who still managed to vote, naturally for the Islamists. Counting only real and living voters, the Islamists could not have obtained more than 30% of the vote, even with the enormous sums of money they spent on their election campaigns and the skewed way the electoral districts were divided, not to mention the fact that according to Egyptian law, political parties based on religion are strictly forbidden.

Watch how the Western coverage underplays how the last week has seen several hostile confrontations between the Muslim Brotherhood and the general public, especially the revolutionary youth. Last January 25th, the millions who took to the streets began by chanting against the SCAF, but within hours, the chants equally condemned the SCAF and the Muslim Brotherhood. The turning point came when the Muslim Brotherhood used massive loudspeakers all over the country to broadcast the Quran to try to drown out the chants against the SCAF, and by the end of the day the people were accusing the Muslim Brotherhood of selling out the revolution for their own selfish goals.

Just three days ago, several marches were organized by women's groups and revolutionary youth to present a list of demands to the new parliament. When they arrived, they found hundreds of Muslim Brotherhood members surrounding the parliament to prevent the marchers from handing over their list of demands, prominent among which was to demand that the parliament exercise its authority to establish independent tribunals to investigate and try the perpetrators of crimes against the Egyptian people during the past year, to nullify the state of emergency, and to immediately relieve the SCAF of all political power. When the Muslim Brotherhood members refused to allow any representatives of the marchers to present their list of demands, the mood turned ugly and a fight broke out, in which around a dozen Muslim Brothers were lightly injured. In the end, Liberal and Leftist members of Parliament came out and accepted the list of demands.

The geriatric, corrupt old fools of SCAF are like cornered rats -- they've committed so many terrible crimes over the past year, that their hold on power has now become literally a matter of life and death for them. But each time, their crimes become more savage, more bloody, and the number of victims escalates. And each time, they dig their graves a little bit deeper. They created a false parliament to represent the people's voice, so millions took to the streets all over the country to speak for themselves. They falsify and distort the news, so the revolution communicates directly with the people using the internet and street media like the "Kazeboon" (Liars) campaign that I described in an earlier post. They use the police and army to attack protesters, so ordinary young men, including the heroes of the Ultras, put their lives on the line to defend them. They try to intimidate and humiliate the families of martyrs, so people flock around them and serve them and glorify them. (I, who have never bowed and kissed the hand of a living person, when I met the mother of Khaled Said, found myself instinctively bending down and kissing her hand, as so many others do.) They say to the bereaved mothers, "You have lost one son, but now all of us are your sons and daughters." And they mean it.

All their schemes have failed, including their devious partnership with the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists, and now they're reduced to trying to simply kill off the opposition. But their opposition is the Egyptian people, over 65% of whom are under the age of 30, and who are driven by a hunger for justice and freedom so deep that nothing can stand against them.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:55 am

Egypt braces for further unrest after football violence

Marches planned to protest against police inaction at al-Ahly football match, where 74 people died

Riazat Butt and Abdel-Rahman Hussein in Cairo
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 2 February 2012 09.09 GMT

Egypt is bracing itself for further unrest following Wednesday night's violence at a football match in Port Said, with marches planned to protest against the police failure to prevent or contain the fighting that left 74 dead and hundreds injured.

Trouble flared after al-Ahly, one of Egypt's most successful teams, were beaten 3-1 by al-Masry. Television footage showed players running from the pitch chased by fans.

A small group of riot police tried to protect the players, but appeared to be overwhelmed and unable to stop fans from attacking players. Fans of both teams then clashed, storming the pitch and dressing rooms, and part of the stadium was set on fire.

Most of the hundreds of black-uniformed police with helmets and shields stood in lines and did nothing as people chased each other, [hmmm, wonder why?]some wielding sharp objects and others hurling sticks and rocks. One officer was filmed talking on a mobile phone as people poured on to the field.

One al-Ahly supporter, Khaled Gad, told the Guardian: "What's upsetting is the huge lapse in security, which I feel is purposeful on the part of the interior ministry and the military."

An al-Ahly official, Hanan Zeini, told the BBC: "I cannot believe these things happened randomly. I don't think so, it was arranged."

Mohamed Hussein Tantawi, head of the ruling military council, ordered helicopters sent to Port Said to ferry injured team members and fans of the visiting side to a military hospital.

In Cairo on Wednesday night fans gathered outside al-Ahly's ground in the Zamalek neighbourhood as they waited to hear news of family and friends who had attended the match. They were joined by fans of their arch-rivals Zamalek. Chants rang out against the ministry of interior and the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces.

People have been quick to point the finger at the former regime, the police and the army, and claim events were either orchestrated or allowed to escalate. Egyptians are angry that, a year since Hosni Mubarak was driven out, their country is riddled with lawlessness and fighting.

The Muslim Brotherhood, which has emerged as Egypt's largest party in recent elections, said the violence was a message from supporters of the ousted president and accused the army and police of wanting to silence those demanding an end to the state of emergency in the country.

The country's football association has ordered an indefinite suspension of top-tier matches and parliament was due to hold a special session on Thursday to discuss the violence.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby vanlose kid » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:58 am

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby wordspeak2 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:10 am

Wow. SO, Alice, are you saying the riot was 100% instigated by provocateurs? And then there was a total lack of security response, as well....
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:12 am

Eyewitnesses: Police stood idle in Egypt football massacre

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/02/world/africa/egypt-soccer-deaths-color/

While their goons stirred up trouble.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:53 pm

wordspeak2 wrote:Wow. SO, Alice, are you saying the riot was 100% instigated by provocateurs?


Yes. There is so much evidence that this was deliberately planned and executed by the regime and its thugs, at the highest levels. This game was unique in that NONE of the usual security procedures, which are a feature of every single game, were taken. Furthermore, for the first time in the history of football, it so happened that neither the Governor nor the Security Chief of Port Said were in the stadium during a match. Before every game, all the security details and logistics are coordinated between the Governor and the Security Chief, and both are there on duty from the start to finish of every game ever, except this one.

vanlose kid wrote:Trouble flared after al-Ahly, one of Egypt's most successful teams, were beaten 3-1 by al-Masry. Television footage showed players running from the pitch chased by fans.

A small group of riot police tried to protect the players, but appeared to be overwhelmed and unable to stop fans from attacking players.


It's too bad the Guardian neglected to mention that it was the losing visitors that were supposedly attacked by the fans of the winning home team. :tongout

And that officers of the supposedly "overwhelmed" security forces were filmed smiling as the massacre took place.

It so happens that the Ahly is the stronger team, so those who planned this gambled on the fact that they would win, and the attack by the "sore losers" would supposedly make sense.

Furthermore, the sheer number of deaths in such a very short time (just over 30 minutes), and over 1000 injuries including 180 critical cases, suggests that trained, professional killers were at work, not overenthusiastic football fans.

The people of Port Said lined up for hours to donate blood last night, and joined in demonstrations to condemn the attack as revenge against the Ultras by the regime.

None of the parents of the victims (who ranged between the ages of 15 and 28) blame Port Said's football fans. They all accuse the SCAF and the Ministry of the Interior of perpetrating this massacre. And they are right.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby AlicetheKurious » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:07 am

We have a lot more information now, from eyewitness testimony and videos, that helps us to understand why the casualty figures were so high. I'm going out in a few minutes (to a demonstration in Tahrir, naturally), so I'll be brief:

The thugs were equipped with clubs suspiciously like the ones police are issued, which look like big sticks and are made of metal.

They were sent across the pitch to the bleachers where the Ahly Ultras were seated, and police did nothing to stop them. As they ran, they shouted to the regular Port Said fans, "Come on!" so that the regular fans would provide them with cover. Once they reached the bleachers, they began beating the Ultras savagely. The Ultras tried to escape via the only exit from the bleachers where they were. This exit consisted of a staircase which went down towards a short hallway and then a door to outside the stadium. This door is never locked, because it serves as a fire exit.

On this occasion, the fire door was locked. The Ultras found themselves facing the choice of either being beaten to death, or cramming themselves into the staircase. Those who stayed outside had their heads bashed in. Those already in the space were crushed by those trying to get in. Around one thousand of the Ultras were piled up on top of each other, some with only their hand or leg showing. Most of those who died were suffocated by the bodies on top.

It was a horrible, sadistic way for them to be killed. The police stood by and watched. Eyewitnesses outside the stadium said that police guarded the locked fire exit from the outside, ignoring the screams for help.
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