Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Misogyny

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Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Misogyny

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:59 am

Leader's Suicide Reveals Frightening, Violent, Organized Misogyny Movement
The suicide brought attention to an underworld of misogynists whose furies include the family court system, domestic violence laws and false rape accusations.
March 20, 2012

After 10 years of custody battles, court-ordered counseling and imminent imprisonment for non-payment of child support, Thomas James Ball, a leader of the Worcester branch of the Massachusetts-based Fatherhood Coalition, had reached his limit. On June 15, 2011, he doused himself with gasoline and set himself on fire just outside the Cheshire County, N.H., Courthouse. He was dead within minutes.

In a lengthy “Last Statement,” which arrived posthumously at the Keene Sentinel, Tom Ball told his story. All he had done, he said, was smack his 4-year-old daughter and bloody her mouth after she licked his hand as he was putting her to bed. Feminist-crafted anti-domestic violence legislation did the rest. “Twenty-five years ago,” he wrote, “the federal government declared war on men. It is time to see how committed they are to their cause. It is time, boys, to give them a taste of war.” Calling for all-out insurrection, he offered tips on making Molotov cocktails and urged his readers to use them against courthouses and police stations. “There will be some casualties in this war,” he predicted. “Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.”

For people who associate the men’s and fathers’ rights movements with New Age drum circles in the woods, the ferocity of Ball’s rhetoric, the horror of his act, and, in particular, the widespread and blatantly misogynistic reaction to it may come as something of a revelation. When the feminist Amanda Marcotte, a bête noire of the men’s rights movement, remarked that “setting yourself on fire is an extremely effective tool if your goal is to make your ex-wife’s life a living hell,” a poster at the blog Misandry.com went ballistic. “Talk about the pot calling the kettle black,” he raged. “She is evil and such a vile evil that she is a disease that needs to be cut out of the human [consciousness] just like the rest of the femanazi ass harpies.”

It’s not much of a surprise that significant numbers of men in Western societies feel threatened by dramatic changes in their roles and that of the family in recent decades. Similar backlashes, after all, came in response to the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement, and other major societal revolutions. What is something of a shock is the verbal and physical violence of that reaction.



Ball’s suicide brought attention to an underworld of misogynists, woman-haters whose fury goes well beyond criticism of the family court system, domestic violence laws, and false rape accusations. There are literally hundreds of websites, blogs and forums devoted to attacking virtually all women (or, at least, Westernized ones) — the so-called “manosphere,” which now also includes a tribute page for Tom Ball (“He Died For Our Children”). While some of them voice legitimate and sometimes disturbing complaints about the treatment of men, what is most remarkable is the misogynistic tone that pervades so many. Women are routinely maligned as sluts, gold-diggers, temptresses and worse; overly sympathetic men are dubbed “manginas”; and police and other officials are called their armed enablers. Even Ball — who did not directly blame his ex-wife for his troubles, but instead depicted her and their three children as co-victims of the authorities — vilified “man-hating feminists” as evil destroyers of all that is good.

This kind of woman-hatred is increasingly visible in most Western societies, and it tends to be allied with other anti-modern emotions — opposition to same-sex marriage, to non-Christian immigration, to women in the workplace, and even, in some cases, to the advancement of African Americans. Just a few weeks after Ball’s death, while scorch marks were still visible on the sidewalk in Keene, N.H., that was made clear once more by a Norwegian named Anders Behring Breivik.

On July 22, Breivik slaughtered 77 of his countrymen, most of them teenagers, in Oslo and at a summer camp on the island of Utøya, because he thought they or their parents were the kinds of “politically correct” liberals who were enabling Muslim immigration. But Breivik was almost as voluble on the subjects of feminism, the family, and fathers’ rights as he was on Islam. “The most direct threat to the family is ‘divorce on demand,’” he wrote in the manifesto he posted just before he began his deadly spree. “The system must be reformed so that the father will be awarded custody rights by default.”

The manosphere lit up. Said one approving poster at The Spearhead, an online men’s rights magazine for the “defense of ourselves, our families and our fellow men”: “What could be more ‘an eye for an eye’ than to kill the children of those who were so willing to destroy men’s families and destroy the homeland of men?”

‘The Homeland of Men’

The men’s rights movement, also referred to as the fathers’ rights movement, is made up of a number of disparate, often overlapping, types of groups and individuals. Some most certainly do have legitimate grievances, having endured prison, impoverishment or heartrending separations from genuinely loved children.

Jocelyn Crowley, a Rutgers political scientist and the author of Defiant Dads: Fathers’ Rights Activists in America, says that most men who join real (as opposed to virtual) men’s rights groups aren’t seeking to attack the family court system so much as they are simply struggling to navigate it. What they talk most about when they meet face to face, she says, are strategies to deal with their ex-partners and have better relationships with their children.

But Molly Dragiewicz, a criminologist at the University of Ontario Institute of Technology and the author of Equality With a Vengeance: Men’s Rights Groups, Battered Women, and Antifeminist Backlash, argues that cases in which fathers are badly treated by courts and other officials are not remotely the norm. The small percentage of divorces that end up in litigation are disproportionately those where abuse and other issues make joint custody a dubious proposition. Even when a woman can satisfactorily document her ex-husband’s abuse, Dragiewicz says, she is no more likely to receive full custody of her children than if she couldn’t.

The men’s movement also includes mail-order-bride shoppers, unregenerate batterers, and wannabe pickup artists who are eager to learn the secrets of “game”—the psychological tricks that supposedly make it easy to seduce women. George Sodini, who confided his seething rage at women to his blog before shooting 12 women, three of them fatally, was one of the latter. Before his 2009 murder spree at a Pittsburgh-area gym, he was a student — though clearly not a very apt one — of R. Don Steele, the author of How to Date Young Women: For Men Over 35. “I dress good, am clean-shaven, bathe, touch of cologne — yet 30 million women rejected me over an 18 or 25-year period,” Sodini wrote with the kind of pathos presumably typical of Steele’s readers.

Other movement adherents have forsworn sex altogether, or at least romantic relationships and marriage; the acronym they use for themselves is MGTOW, for “Men Going Their Own Way.” “If you are willing to marry a woman — any woman — in the West then you must also be willing to become the next murder-suicide story when she threatens to file for divorce, steal your kids out of your life and extort you for every current and future dollar you will ever earn,” wrote one commenter at The Spearhead. “If a man kidnapped your children, stole your home, your wallet and your bank account, you’d be more than willing to kill him in self defense. Why is it any different when ex-wives do it with the full force of the law behind them?”



Some take an inordinate interest in extremely young women, or fetishize what they see as the ultra-feminine (read: docile) characteristics of South American and Asian women. Others, who have internalized Christian “headship” doctrine, are desperately seeking the “submissive” women such doctrine celebrates. Still others are simply sexually awkward, and nonplussed and befuddled by society’s changing mores. The common denominator is their resentment of feminism and of females in general.

“It’s ironic,” the feminist writer Amanda Marcotte observes. “These [misogynist Web] sites owe their existence to feminism’s successes. At some point in the last couple of years, the zeitgeist hit a tipping point where female power — Hillary Clinton’s, Rachel Maddow’s, even Sarah Palin’s — stopped being questioned. Being sexist has become less acceptable than it used to be. This makes some men particularly anxious.” At the same time, of course, domestic violence and sex crimes are much more likely to be prosecuted than they were even a decade ago. Shelters, social services and legal aid are more available to most battered women than in the past.

But some experts argue that men’s rights groups have been remarkably successful. The groups, says Rita Smith, director of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, “have taken over the way courts deal with custody issues, particularly when there are allegations of abuse,” largely by convincing them that there is such a thing as “Parental Alienation Syndrome” (PAS). (PAS is a supposed clinical disorder in which a child compulsively belittles one parent due to indoctrination by the other — frequently leveling false allegations of abuse. It is not recognized as a clinical disorder by either the American Psychiatric Association or the World Health Organization.) Citing studies that show that false domestic abuse accusations against men are far less common than men’s groups and PAS enthusiasts claim, Smith says the groups nevertheless have “been able to get custody evaluators, mediators, guardians ad litem and child protective service workers to believe that women and children lie about abuse.”

Threats and Abuse

One kind of abuse that is undeniable is the vilification of individual women on certain men’s group websites. The best example of that may be Register-Her, a registry of women who “have caused significant harm to innocent individuals either by the direct action of crimes like rape, assault, child molestation and murder, or by the false accusation of crimes against others.” The site was set up by Paul Elam, the blogger behind A Voice for Men, less than two weeks after Ball’s suicide. “If Mary Jane Rottencrotch decides to falsely accuse her husband of domestic violence in order to get the upper hand in a divorce,” Elam boasted on his Internet radio show, “we can publish all her personal information on the website, including her name, address, phone number … even her routes to and from work.”

Under a headline reading, “Why are these women not in prison?” the site features photos and information about some 250 alleged malefactors, including notorious women like Lorena Bobbitt and Tonya Harding, although Elam hasn’t made good on his threat to publish home addresses or phone numbers. Many of those listed received prison sentences for various crimes, but large numbers were acquitted in court, while others were never accused of any lawbreaking. A well-known feminist, for example, is listed for “anti-male bigotry,” which is compared to racism.

Elam’s site can be frightening to its targets. In one case, he offered a cash reward to the first reader to ferret out a pseudonymous feminist blogger’s real name. In another, Elam singled out a part-time blogger at ChicagoNow who describes herself as a “vegetarian park activist with two baby girls.” The woman’s mistake was to write about her discomfort with male adults helping female toddlers in the bathroom at her daughter’s preschool. The blogger conceded that she was being sexist, but wrote that “I’d rather be wrong than find out if I’m right.”

After the woman was listed, she was widely attacked on men’s movement sites. “I don’t always use the word ‘cunt’ to describe a woman,” one poster raged, “but when I do it’s because of reasons like these.” Shocked, the “Mommy blogger” took down her original post and apologized for her “demonization of men.”

It wasn’t enough. “You targeted fathers, and just fathers,” Elam rebuked her. “It strikes me that you have never really been held to account for any of your actions in life. It is quite likely that the concept of complete, selfless accountability is just completely foreign to you.” Over at the Reddit Mens Rights forum, another poster fumed: “This entire episode should be a warning to all those male hating feminists out there who believe that they are safe screaming their hate messages on the web. Finally, they are held accountable for their hate messages and finally the rest of the world will find out exactly what type of depraved people they really are.”

Amanda Marcotte, who is a prime Register-Her target, writes about men’s rights activists less than she used to. That’s not because she doesn’t take them seriously — they introduce too many “anti-woman, anti-child, pro-abuse, pro-rape ideas into the public discourse” not to — but because “they’re so doggedly mean. It becomes frightening after a while.” Marcotte says the registry may incite violence against its targets, especially because many angry male activists are active abusers. “They interact with their ideological adversaries online,” she says, “much as they do with their spouses and children: ‘I’ll give you something to cry about!’”



“I don’t know if Thomas James Ball ever visited this site,” Elam wrote on his blog when he started Register-Her. “What I do believe is, though, that he, if convinced to stay alive, would have been a hell of a soldier in this war.”

Soldiers in the War

The first shots in this so-called war on feminism were fired 22 years before Tom Ball’s suicide. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lépine, a troubled 25-year-old computer student, strolled into the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal, Canada, carrying a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife. He walked into a classroom, ordered the men to leave, and lined the women up against a wall.

“I am fighting feminism,” he announced before opening fire. “You’re women, you’re going to be engineers. You’re all a bunch of feminists. I hate feminists.”

By the time he turned the gun on himself, 14 women were dead and 10 were wounded; four men were hurt as well. The suicide note in Lépine’s pocket contained a list of 19 “radical feminists” he hoped to kill, and this: “I have decided to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker. … They want to keep the advantages of women … while seizing for themselves those of men.”

Today, that kind of rage is often directed at all women, not only perceived feminists. “Women don’t need the powers-that-be to get them to hate and use men,” the blogger Alcuin wrote recently. “They have always used men; maybe they have always hated us too.” Added another blogger, Angry Harry: “There are now, literally, billions of dollars, numerous empires, and millions of jobs that depend on the public swallowing the idea that women need to be defended from men.”

“A word to the wise,” offered the blogger known as Rebuking Feminism. “The animals women have become want one thing, resources and genes. … See them as the animals they have become and plan … accordingly.”

And many are quick to endorse violence against women. “There are women, and plenty of them, for which [sic] a solid ass kicking would be the least they deserve,” Paul Elam wrote in an essay with the provocative title, “When is it OK to Punch Your Wife?” “The real question here is not whether these women deserve the business end of a right hook, they obviously do, and some of them deserve one hard enough to leave them in an unconscious, innocuous pile on the ground if it serves to protect the innocent from imminent harm. The real question is whether men deserve to be able to physically defend themselves from assault … from a woman.”

For some, it’s more than just talk. In 2006, Darren Mack, a member of a fathers’ rights group in Reno, Nev., stabbed his estranged wife to death and then shot and wounded the family court judge who was handling his divorce.

That kind of violence continues right up to the present.

In Seal Beach, Calif. last Oct. 12, a day after Scott Evans Dekraai and his ex-wife had been in court to fight over custody of their 8-year-old son (Dekraai had 56% custody but wanted full custody and “final decision making authority” on matters of the child’s education and medical treatment), Dekraai walked into the hair salon where his ex-wife worked armed with three handguns. There, he allegedly shot seven women, six of them fatally; he also is accused of killing two men — the salon’s owner, as he attempted to flee, and a man in a car outside.

Michelle Fournier, Dekraai’s ex-wife, had testified that Dekraai was not taking his bipolar medicine and that he was suicidal and dangerous. If she had survived his rampage, she might have enjoyed having the last word about his propensity for violence. But she did not, becoming instead the latest in a long, sad line of victims of women-hating men



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Jeff wrote:
I don't doubt it. But it makes me wonder what they would want with it.



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Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
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Postby Stephen Morgan » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:30 pm

You are posting piles of bullshit recently.
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:34 pm

Stephen Morgan wrote:You are posting piles of bullshit recently.


please elaborate.....please list the piles of bullshit


I don't call your ramblings piles of shit....even though they just maybe



if you can't find piles of shit I just may call you an asshole Image
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:01 pm

herre I'll make it easy for you just go through this list....remember it's got to be a pile...how far back is lately... anyway? one month? two months? let me know

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Motion by Former Deputy Appears to Implicate WI's Scott Walker in a Conspiracy to Violate Milwaukee Employee Residence Law Will a criminal probe undo the GOP Guv even before a recall?... Guest blogged by Ernest A. Canning What is it with Republicans and residency laws? Recently, in covering the con...

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Remarkable Russian Petroglyphs http://www.pasthorizonspr.com/wp-conten ... sia870.jpg Jan Magne Gjerde records petroglyphs on plastic sheeting. (Photo: Jan Magne Gjerde) SUNDAY, MARCH 18, 2012 | FEATURED, NEWS By: Hanne Jakobsen, ScienceNordic Artefacts are usually displayed ...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Executives from Chevron, Transocean Held in Brazil
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Executives from Chevron, Transocean Held in Brazil - Common Dreams staff Brazil has barred 17 executives from Chevron and Transocean from leaving the country while an investigation over charges for an oil spill is underway. BBC: Brazilian prosecutors say they will bring criminal charges against 17 ...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Insider Trading 9/11...Unresolved, by Lars Schall 3/21/12
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Forum: General Discussion Topic: Top Ceo And Bankers Jumping Ship In Large Numbers?
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Don’t Let the Door Hit You on the Way Out by David Macaray / March 20th, 2012 In the wake of the 2008 financial meltdown, one of the arguments you heard Republican economists and Wall Street executives repeatedly use to defend the obscene amounts of money being paid investment bankers and hedge fun...

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DHS Turns Over Occupy Wall Street Documents to Truthout Tuesday, 20 March 2012 19:18 By Jason Leopold, Truthout Note: Documents are uploading now. Stay tuned.... Did the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) advise local law enformcent officials on how to respond to the nationwide Occupy Wall Stree...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Misogyny
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Leader's Suicide Reveals Frightening, Violent, Organized Misogyny Movement The suicide brought attention to an underworld of misogynists whose furies include the family court system, domestic violence laws and false rape accusations. March 20, 2012 After 10 years of custody battles, court-ordered c...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: American Soldier(s) Massacre 16 Afghan Civilians
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Afghan Villagers Were Threatened by US Troops Ahead of Massacre Witnesses: Troops Lined Up All Men From Mokhoyan, Told Them They'd 'Pay' by Jason Ditz, March 20, 2012 | Print This | Share This | Antiwar Forum The incongruous stories surrounding the March 11 massacre on Afghan civilians in two villa...

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U.S. Military US Coverup. Probe Finds Not One - But up to 20 US Soldiers implicated in March 11 Panjwai massacre. By Les Blough, Axis of Logic. Bashir Ahmad Naadimon, Pajhwok Afghan News Axis of Logic. Pajhwok Afghan News. RT News. Tuesday, Mar 20, 2012 Yesterday we reported that U.S. Staff Sgt. Ro...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Top Ceo And Bankers Jumping Ship In Large Numbers?
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Forum: General Discussion Topic: Bank of America is a “raging hurricane of theft and fraud”
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Forum: General Discussion Topic: Israel Begins Deportation of South Sudanese Refugees
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Published on Monday, March 19, 2012 by The Real News
Israel Begins Deportation of South Sudanese Refugees
Despite renewed conflict and UN warnings, Israel begins deporting South Sudanese asylum seekers.

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Obama signs Executive Order allowing for control over all US
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The Rising Tsunami of the Police State Posted on March 19, 2012 by SurvivalWoman Saturday night, March 17. Dateline 8 PM PDT. I received an email from a reader alerting me to the Executive Order — National Defense Resources Preparedness signed by President Obama on March 16. To tell the truth, I th...

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Israel Killing Wrong Iranian Scientists? March 19, 2012 A suspected Israeli-sponsored assassination campaign has claimed the lives of five Iranian scientists supposedly linked to the country’s nuclear program. But the evidence implicating some scientists in nuclear research may be as murky as the s...

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The Slaves That Time Forgot Ireland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants. The majority of the early slaves to the New World were actually white. From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and another 300,000 were sold as slaves. Ireland’s ...

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Irish Classic Is Still a Hit (in Calfskin, Not Paperback) By EAMON QUINN Published: May 28, 2007 DUBLIN, May 27 — For a manuscript written 1,200 years ago and revered as a wonder of the Western world practically ever since, little is known about the Book of Kells and its splendidly illustrated Gosp...

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Resistance Builds to NATO's Threat of Permanent War and Nuclear Dominance Sunday 18 March 2012 by: Bernardine Dohrn and Bill Ayers , Truthout | Op-Ed Demonstrators protest against NATO in Strasbourg, France, April, 2009. (Photo: Jos van Zetten) The leaders of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization ...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Palestine to Submit 20 Sites for UNESCO World Heritage Site
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Palestine to Submit 20 Sites for UNESCO World Heritage Site Nomination By Heritage on the Wire Fri, Mar 09, 2012 Ancient historic sites such as the Church of the Nativity, the Old City of Hebron and the Qumran caves where the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, to be included. On its first day as a full-f...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Israel’s Willing Executioners: AIPAC Invades Washington
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Israel’s Willing Executioners: AIPAC Invades Washington by James Petras and Robin Eastman-Abaya / March 17th, 2012 A Week of National Humiliation From March 4th to March 9th, 2012, 13,000 militant Israel Firsters, took over “political Washington”1 and imposed a foreign regime’s (Israel) political a...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Is ICC Verdict a Wake-up Call for War Criminals
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The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say) By James Bamford Email Author March 15, 2012 | 7:24 pm , Surveillance http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/wp-con ... nter_f.jpg Photo: Name Withheld; Digital Manipulation: Jesse Lenz The spring air in t...

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Gunboats, Super-Torpedoes, Sea-Bots: U.S. Navy Launches Huge Iran Surge By Spencer Ackerman Email Author March 16, 2012 | 11:55 am | The Navy practices a mock boarding operation on the U.S.S. Princeton in the Middle East, 2010. Photo: U.S. Navy Fifth Fleet Sending more aircraft carriers to the wate...



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Forum: General Discussion Topic: Obama signs Executive Order allowing for control over all US
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President Obama signs Executive Order allowing for control over all US resources Kenneth Schortgen Jr On March 16th, President Obama signed a new Executive Order which expands upon a prior order issued in 1950 for Disaster Preparedness, and gives the office of the President complete control over al...

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Hy-Brassil: Irish origins of Brazil By Roger Casement (1 September 1864 - 3 August 1916) Edited by Angus Mitchell (*) The name Brazil could only have come to the Portuguese from the Celtic legendary name applied to the 'islands of the blessed', the Tír na nÓg of the land of the setting sun, which t...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Is ICC Verdict a Wake-up Call for War Criminals
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Forum: General Discussion Topic: Whistleblower: BP Oil Platform Faces Present Imminent Danger
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I buried my heart in a willow tree You came along, gave it back to me Now we’re creatures of the night, we set each other free Run away with me UHcYiOsO3a4 Published on Saturday, March 17, 2012 by Common Dreams Whistleblower: BP Oil Platform Faces 'Present and Imminent Danger' Whistleblower claims ...

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http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n67/ ... stpat6.jpg 6VWPzsPqcHQ Published on Thursday, March 15, 2012 by Common Dreams The Real Irish American Story Not Taught in Schools by Bill Bigelow "Wear green on St. Patrick's Day or get pinched." That pretty much sums up the Irish Ame...



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Jeffrey Sachs: Population Controller? (VIDEO) Laura Flanders on March 16, 2012 - 4:20 PM ET In a March 1 op-ed in the Washington Post Columbia economist Jeffrey Sachs made his pitch to be the next president of the World Bank promising to “lead the bank into a new era of problem-solving.” John Cavan...

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Defining ‘human’ – new fossils provide more questions than answers The origin of the human species remains one of the most fascinating and difficult topics of modern science. One of the main reasons for this is a continuing lack of agreement about how we should define ourselves. In other words, wha...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: American Soldier(s) Massacre 16 Afghan Civilians
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Afghan killing suspect Staff Sgt. Robert Bales is Lake Tapps resident After five days cloaked in military secrecy, the soldier suspected in a massacre of 16 Afghan civilians has finally been identified, adding a critical detail to the still-sketchy portrait just beginning to emerge. After five days...

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The Lariam Factor Was Staff Sergeant Shooter On Dangerous Malaria Drug? by MARTHA ROSENBERG Few remember the grisly summer of 2002 when four Fort Bragg soldiers’ wives were murdered within six weeks of each other and the malaria drug, Lariam, widely prescribed to troops deploying to Afghanistan and...

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Up to 20 US troops behind Kandahar bloodbath - Afghan probe Published: 16 March, 2012, 11:33 Edited: 16 March, 2012, 17:53 U.S. armoured vehicles are parked outside a US base in Panjwai district Kandahar province, March 11, 2012 (Reuters / Ahmad Nadeem) TAGS: Conflict, Military, Afghanistan, USA An...

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Published on Friday, March 16, 2012 by Common Dreams Ex-US Officials Face 'Material Support' Probe for Terror Links High-ups in US political establishment expose hypocrisy by ignoring federal law they championed http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commo ... age/arti...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.
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Wisconsin GOP to Lose Senate Majority Before Recall Begins State Sen. Galloway to resign, leaving Senate split By Patrick Marley of the Journal Sentinel Updated: 11:06 a.m. Pam Galloway Madison - State Sen. Pam Galloway, who faces a recall election this summer, plans to resign from the Senate short...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Bank of America is a “raging hurricane of theft and fraud”
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Matt Taibbi: Bank of America is a “raging hurricane of theft and fraud” Matt Taibbi speaking at an Occupy Wall Street day of action, February 29th, 2012. He wrote this article for OWS, and passed it out to the crowd. It’s an informative and urgent call to action for Americans from all walks of life...

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GOP: Old, white and in trouble, poll says Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich trade opinions during the CNN Southern Republican Presidential Debate at the North Charleston Coliseum in North Charleston, S.C. (Michael Reynolds / EPA / January 19, 2012) By David Lauter Mar...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: The War on Women
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Evidence Builds That Meditation Strengthens the Brain http://images.sciencedaily.com/2012/03/120314170647.jpg ScienceDaily (Mar. 14, 2012) — Earlier evidence out of UCLA suggested that meditating for years thickens the brain (in a good way) and strengthens the connections between brain cells. Now a...

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Tom Corbett, Pennsylvania Governor, On Ultrasound Mandate: Just 'Close Your Eyes' 2m2AawMJzvU Georgia Republican Compares Women to Cows, Pigs, And Chickens By Adam Peck on Mar 12, 2012 at 4:40 pm Republican Georgia State Representative Terry England A speech from a Georgia Republican state represen...


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Forum: General Discussion Topic: Plastic-Eating Fungi Found in the Amazon
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PLASTIC-EATING FUNGI FOUND IN THE AMAZON MAY SOLVE WORLD’S WASTE PROBLEM By Emma Hutchings on March 7, 2012 http://cdn.psfk.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... -fungi.jpg A group of students and professors from Yale University have found a fungi in the Amazon rainforest that can degrade and utilize ...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Is ICC Verdict a Wake-up Call for War Criminals
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Is International Criminal Court verdict a wake-up call for war criminals? ICC's first verdict a landmark decision By Daniel Schwartz, CBC News Posted: Mar 15, 2012 12:50 AM The treaty that created the International Criminal Court came into force almost ten years ago, on July 1, 2002. The treaty, th...

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In the Noble Name of Freedom, Arizona Says No Slutty-Slut Pills For You Unless We Say So by Abby Zimet http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commo ... 00x451.jpg The latest insanity in lady news comes from Arizona, where the state Senate passed a measure g...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Human fossils hint at new species
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Human fossils hint at new species By Jonathan Amos Science correspondent, BBC News http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/5 ... ople_5.jpg Scientists say the specimens display features that are quite distinct from fully modern humans The remains of what may be a previou...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Bruce Springsteen’s Irish Wake
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MARCH 14, 2012 Bring Out Your Dead Bruce Springsteen’s Irish Wake by HARRY BROWNE “They think they have purchased half of us and intimidated the other half… but the fools, the fools, the fools! — they have left us our Fenian dead, and while Ireland holds these graves, Ireland unfree shall never be ...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Game hunt for sacred white buffaloes riles Native groups
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Game hunt for sacred white buffaloes riles Native groups By Kari Huus, msnbc.com A big-game hunting ranch in Texas faced a stampede of criticism this week when Lakota Indians noticed that the business was offering a White Buffalo Hunting Package for $13,500, Indian Country Today Media reported. Whi...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Invisible Tsunami of Rising Sea Levels Put US Coasts at Risk
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'Invisible tsunami' of rising sea levels puts US coasts at risk, expert says By msnbc.com staff and news services For the nearly 5 million people who live along the U.S. coasts from Maine to the Gulf of Mexico and the West Coast, rising seas fueled by global warming have doubled the risk of so-call...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Michael Hossack Doobie Brothers Drummer
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returns home 7TcQtUCs6nM Hossack's not on this album...but it's my favorite Doobie he's on this one.... I just might pass this way again pEGihRom2pY Michael Hossack, 65, Doobie Brothers Drummer By / The Associated Press Published: March 13, 2012 Michael Hossack, the drummer for the Doobie Brothers d...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: We Need to Grow Our Souls-Building Next American Revolution
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Grace Lee Boggs: 'We Need to Grow Our Souls' Boggs: The "secret to visionary organizing" is a "combination of philosophy and activism" - Common Dreams staff At an event to celebrate the work of Grace Lee Boggs, the long-time activist says that "we need to grow our souls&quo...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: SCOTUS' Frankenstein
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A Mighty Big Coincidence: SCOTUS' Frankenstein by Abby Zimet http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commo ... 2854_n.jpg Stunning numbers and visuals from the Center for Responsive Politics on the impact of C...

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, 2 Ex-Senators Say
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oh Jack I just was so jealous that you were ingoring me :lovehearts:


and I used big pictures to get your attention

Forum: General Discussion Topic: Saudi Arabia May Be Tied to 9/11, 2 Ex-Senators Say
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Hey 2012, thanks for this. I reposted here: http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 04#p452604 In an attempt to consolidate in a single thread the new crop of recent foreknowledge and investigative obstruction stories involving the Blee complex, Clarke's voiced su...

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94 House Members Send Letter to Secretary Clinton Calling for Suspension of Assistance to Honduras Submitted by BuzzFlash on Tue, 03/13/2012 - 9:10am. News Releases The following is a news release from the office of Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky WASHINGTON, DC (March 12, 2012) - Today Rep. Jan Schak...

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hey Bob try and get that vid of the plane hitting the Pentagon.....you know they got at least one


Leader's Suicide Reveals Frightening, Violent, Organized Misogyny Movement
The suicide brought attention to an underworld of misogynists whose furies include the family court system, domestic violence laws and false rape accusations.
March 20, 2012

After 10 years of custody battles, court-ordered counseling and imminent imprisonment for non-payment of child support, Thomas James Ball, a leader of the Worcester branch of the Massachusetts-based Fatherhood Coalition, had reached his limit. On June 15, 2011, he doused himself with gasoline and set himself on fire just outside the Cheshire County, N.H., Courthouse. He was dead within minutes.

In a lengthy “Last Statement,” which arrived posthumously at the Keene Sentinel, Tom Ball told his story. All he had done, he said, was smack his 4-year-old daughter and bloody her mouth after she licked his hand as he was putting her to bed. Feminist-crafted anti-domestic violence legislation did the rest. “Twenty-five years ago,” he wrote, “the federal government declared war on men. It is time to see how committed they are to their cause. It is time, boys, to give them a taste of war.” Calling for all-out insurrection, he offered tips on making Molotov cocktails and urged his readers to use them against courthouses and police stations. “There will be some casualties in this war,” he predicted. “Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.”

For people who associate the men’s and fathers’ rights movements with New Age drum circles in the woods, the ferocity of Ball’s rhetoric, the horror of his act, and, in particular, the widespread and blatantly misogynistic reaction to it may come as something of a revelation. When the feminist Amanda Marcotte, a bête noire of the men’s rights movement, remarked that “setting yourself on fire is an extremely effective tool if your goal is to make your ex-wife’s life a living hell,” a poster at the blog Misandry.com went ballistic. “Talk about the pot calling the kettle black,” he raged. “She is evil and such a vile evil that she is a disease that needs to be cut out of the human [consciousness] just like the rest of the femanazi ass harpies.”

It’s not much of a surprise that significant numbers of men in Western societies feel threatened by dramatic changes in their roles and that of the family in recent decades. Similar backlashes, after all, came in response to the civil rights movement, the gay rights movement, and other major societal revolutions. What is something of a shock is the verbal and physical violence of that reaction.



Ball’s suicide brought attention to an underworld of misogynists, woman-haters whose fury goes well beyond criticism of the family court system, domestic violence laws, and false rape accusations. There are literally hundreds of websites, blogs and forums devoted to attacking virtually all women (or, at least, Westernized ones) — the so-called “manosphere,” which now also includes a tribute page for Tom Ball (“He Died For Our Children”). While some of them voice legitimate and sometimes disturbing complaints about the treatment of men, what is most remarkable is the misogynistic tone that pervades so many. Women are routinely maligned as sluts, gold-diggers, temptresses and worse; overly sympathetic men are dubbed “manginas”; and police and other officials are called their armed enablers. Even Ball — who did not directly blame his ex-wife for his troubles, but instead depicted her and their three children as co-victims of the authorities — vilified “man-hating feminists” as evil destroyers of all that is good.

This kind of woman-hatred is increasingly visible in most Western societies, and it tends to be allied with other anti-modern emotions — opposition to same-sex marriage, to non-Christian immigration, to women in the workplace, and even, in some cases, to the advancement of African Americans. Just a few weeks after Ball’s death, while scorch marks were still visible on the sidewalk in Keene, N.H., that was made clear once more by a Norwegian named Anders Behring Breivik.

On July 22, Breivik slaughtered 77 of his countrymen, most of them teenagers, in Oslo and at a summer camp on the island of Utøya, because he thought they or their parents were the kinds of “politically correct” liberals who were enabling Muslim immigration. But Breivik was almost as voluble on the subjects of feminism, the family, and fathers’ rights as he was on Islam. “The most direct threat to the family is ‘divorce on demand,’” he wrote in the manifesto he posted just before he began his deadly spree. “The system must be reformed so that the father will be awarded custody rights by default.”

The manosphere lit up. Said one approving poster at The Spearhead, an online men’s rights magazine for the “defense of ourselves, our families and our fellow men”: “What could be more ‘an eye for an eye’ than to kill the children of those who were so willing to destroy men’s families and destroy the homeland of men?”

‘The Homeland of Men’

The men’s rights movement, also referred to as the fathers’ rights movement, is made up of a number of disparate, often overlapping, types of groups and individuals. Some most certainly do have legitimate grievances, having endured prison, impoverishment or heartrending separations from genuinely loved children.

Jocelyn Crowley, a Rutgers political scientist and the author of Defiant Dads: Fathers’ Rights Activists in America, says that most men who join real (as opposed to virtual) men’s rights groups aren’t seeking to attack the family court system so much as they are simply struggling to navigate it. What they talk most about when they meet face to face, she says, are strategies to deal with their ex-partners and have better relationships with their children.

But Molly Dragiewicz, a criminologist at the University of Ontario Institute of Technology and the author of Equality With a Vengeance: Men’s Rights Groups, Battered Women, and Antifeminist Backlash, argues that cases in which fathers are badly treated by courts and other officials are not remotely the norm. The small percentage of divorces that end up in litigation are disproportionately those where abuse and other issues make joint custody a dubious proposition. Even when a woman can satisfactorily document her ex-husband’s abuse, Dragiewicz says, she is no more likely to receive full custody of her children than if she couldn’t.

The men’s movement also includes mail-order-bride shoppers, unregenerate batterers, and wannabe pickup artists who are eager to learn the secrets of “game”—the psychological tricks that supposedly make it easy to seduce women. George Sodini, who confided his seething rage at women to his blog before shooting 12 women, three of them fatally, was one of the latter. Before his 2009 murder spree at a Pittsburgh-area gym, he was a student — though clearly not a very apt one — of R. Don Steele, the author of How to Date Young Women: For Men Over 35. “I dress good, am clean-shaven, bathe, touch of cologne — yet 30 million women rejected me over an 18 or 25-year period,” Sodini wrote with the kind of pathos presumably typical of Steele’s readers.

Other movement adherents have forsworn sex altogether, or at least romantic relationships and marriage; the acronym they use for themselves is MGTOW, for “Men Going Their Own Way.” “If you are willing to marry a woman — any woman — in the West then you must also be willing to become the next murder-suicide story when she threatens to file for divorce, steal your kids out of your life and extort you for every current and future dollar you will ever earn,” wrote one commenter at The Spearhead. “If a man kidnapped your children, stole your home, your wallet and your bank account, you’d be more than willing to kill him in self defense. Why is it any different when ex-wives do it with the full force of the law behind them?”



Some take an inordinate interest in extremely young women, or fetishize what they see as the ultra-feminine (read: docile) characteristics of South American and Asian women. Others, who have internalized Christian “headship” doctrine, are desperately seeking the “submissive” women such doctrine celebrates. Still others are simply sexually awkward, and nonplussed and befuddled by society’s changing mores. The common denominator is their resentment of feminism and of females in general.

“It’s ironic,” the feminist writer Amanda Marcotte observes. “These [misogynist Web] sites owe their existence to feminism’s successes. At some point in the last couple of years, the zeitgeist hit a tipping point where female power — Hillary Clinton’s, Rachel Maddow’s, even Sarah Palin’s — stopped being questioned. Being sexist has become less acceptable than it used to be. This makes some men particularly anxious.” At the same time, of course, domestic violence and sex crimes are much more likely to be prosecuted than they were even a decade ago. Shelters, social services and legal aid are more available to most battered women than in the past.

But some experts argue that men’s rights groups have been remarkably successful. The groups, says Rita Smith, director of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, “have taken over the way courts deal with custody issues, particularly when there are allegations of abuse,” largely by convincing them that there is such a thing as “Parental Alienation Syndrome” (PAS). (PAS is a supposed clinical disorder in which a child compulsively belittles one parent due to indoctrination by the other — frequently leveling false allegations of abuse. It is not recognized as a clinical disorder by either the American Psychiatric Association or the World Health Organization.) Citing studies that show that false domestic abuse accusations against men are far less common than men’s groups and PAS enthusiasts claim, Smith says the groups nevertheless have “been able to get custody evaluators, mediators, guardians ad litem and child protective service workers to believe that women and children lie about abuse.”

Threats and Abuse

One kind of abuse that is undeniable is the vilification of individual women on certain men’s group websites. The best example of that may be Register-Her, a registry of women who “have caused significant harm to innocent individuals either by the direct action of crimes like rape, assault, child molestation and murder, or by the false accusation of crimes against others.” The site was set up by Paul Elam, the blogger behind A Voice for Men, less than two weeks after Ball’s suicide. “If Mary Jane Rottencrotch decides to falsely accuse her husband of domestic violence in order to get the upper hand in a divorce,” Elam boasted on his Internet radio show, “we can publish all her personal information on the website, including her name, address, phone number … even her routes to and from work.”

Under a headline reading, “Why are these women not in prison?” the site features photos and information about some 250 alleged malefactors, including notorious women like Lorena Bobbitt and Tonya Harding, although Elam hasn’t made good on his threat to publish home addresses or phone numbers. Many of those listed received prison sentences for various crimes, but large numbers were acquitted in court, while others were never accused of any lawbreaking. A well-known feminist, for example, is listed for “anti-male bigotry,” which is compared to racism.

Elam’s site can be frightening to its targets. In one case, he offered a cash reward to the first reader to ferret out a pseudonymous feminist blogger’s real name. In another, Elam singled out a part-time blogger at ChicagoNow who describes herself as a “vegetarian park activist with two baby girls.” The woman’s mistake was to write about her discomfort with male adults helping female toddlers in the bathroom at her daughter’s preschool. The blogger conceded that she was being sexist, but wrote that “I’d rather be wrong than find out if I’m right.”

After the woman was listed, she was widely attacked on men’s movement sites. “I don’t always use the word ‘cunt’ to describe a woman,” one poster raged, “but when I do it’s because of reasons like these.” Shocked, the “Mommy blogger” took down her original post and apologized for her “demonization of men.”

It wasn’t enough. “You targeted fathers, and just fathers,” Elam rebuked her. “It strikes me that you have never really been held to account for any of your actions in life. It is quite likely that the concept of complete, selfless accountability is just completely foreign to you.” Over at the Reddit Mens Rights forum, another poster fumed: “This entire episode should be a warning to all those male hating feminists out there who believe that they are safe screaming their hate messages on the web. Finally, they are held accountable for their hate messages and finally the rest of the world will find out exactly what type of depraved people they really are.”

Amanda Marcotte, who is a prime Register-Her target, writes about men’s rights activists less than she used to. That’s not because she doesn’t take them seriously — they introduce too many “anti-woman, anti-child, pro-abuse, pro-rape ideas into the public discourse” not to — but because “they’re so doggedly mean. It becomes frightening after a while.” Marcotte says the registry may incite violence against its targets, especially because many angry male activists are active abusers. “They interact with their ideological adversaries online,” she says, “much as they do with their spouses and children: ‘I’ll give you something to cry about!’”



“I don’t know if Thomas James Ball ever visited this site,” Elam wrote on his blog when he started Register-Her. “What I do believe is, though, that he, if convinced to stay alive, would have been a hell of a soldier in this war.”

Soldiers in the War

The first shots in this so-called war on feminism were fired 22 years before Tom Ball’s suicide. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lépine, a troubled 25-year-old computer student, strolled into the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal, Canada, carrying a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife. He walked into a classroom, ordered the men to leave, and lined the women up against a wall.

“I am fighting feminism,” he announced before opening fire. “You’re women, you’re going to be engineers. You’re all a bunch of feminists. I hate feminists.”

By the time he turned the gun on himself, 14 women were dead and 10 were wounded; four men were hurt as well. The suicide note in Lépine’s pocket contained a list of 19 “radical feminists” he hoped to kill, and this: “I have decided to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker. … They want to keep the advantages of women … while seizing for themselves those of men.”

Today, that kind of rage is often directed at all women, not only perceived feminists. “Women don’t need the powers-that-be to get them to hate and use men,” the blogger Alcuin wrote recently. “They have always used men; maybe they have always hated us too.” Added another blogger, Angry Harry: “There are now, literally, billions of dollars, numerous empires, and millions of jobs that depend on the public swallowing the idea that women need to be defended from men.”

“A word to the wise,” offered the blogger known as Rebuking Feminism. “The animals women have become want one thing, resources and genes. … See them as the animals they have become and plan … accordingly.”

And many are quick to endorse violence against women. “There are women, and plenty of them, for which [sic] a solid ass kicking would be the least they deserve,” Paul Elam wrote in an essay with the provocative title, “When is it OK to Punch Your Wife?” “The real question here is not whether these women deserve the business end of a right hook, they obviously do, and some of them deserve one hard enough to leave them in an unconscious, innocuous pile on the ground if it serves to protect the innocent from imminent harm. The real question is whether men deserve to be able to physically defend themselves from assault … from a woman.”

For some, it’s more than just talk. In 2006, Darren Mack, a member of a fathers’ rights group in Reno, Nev., stabbed his estranged wife to death and then shot and wounded the family court judge who was handling his divorce.

That kind of violence continues right up to the present.

In Seal Beach, Calif. last Oct. 12, a day after Scott Evans Dekraai and his ex-wife had been in court to fight over custody of their 8-year-old son (Dekraai had 56% custody but wanted full custody and “final decision making authority” on matters of the child’s education and medical treatment), Dekraai walked into the hair salon where his ex-wife worked armed with three handguns. There, he allegedly shot seven women, six of them fatally; he also is accused of killing two men — the salon’s owner, as he attempted to flee, and a man in a car outside.

Michelle Fournier, Dekraai’s ex-wife, had testified that Dekraai was not taking his bipolar medicine and that he was suicidal and dangerous. If she had survived his rampage, she might have enjoyed having the last word about his propensity for violence. But she did not, becoming instead the latest in a long, sad line of victims of women-hating men






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I was wondering if the Lakota noticed the route of the Keystone back then? :wink:

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.08.12 - 8:04 PM Kucinich: Defeat Has Never Had Power Over Me http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commo ... 00x276.jpg Having lost a brutal primary battle, Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich says he's not sure what he'll do next b...

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Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby Project Willow » Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:25 pm

Do not allow him to put you on the defensive.

The first shots in this so-called war on feminism were fired 22 years before Tom Ball’s suicide. On Dec. 6, 1989, Marc Lépine, a troubled 25-year-old computer student, strolled into the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal, Canada, carrying a Ruger Mini-14 semi-automatic rifle and a hunting knife. He walked into a classroom, ordered the men to leave, and lined the women up against a wall.

“I am fighting feminism,” he announced before opening fire. “You’re women, you’re going to be engineers. You’re all a bunch of feminists. I hate feminists.”

By the time he turned the gun on himself, 14 women were dead and 10 were wounded; four men were hurt as well. The suicide note in Lépine’s pocket contained a list of 19 “radical feminists” he hoped to kill, and this: “I have decided to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker. … They want to keep the advantages of women … while seizing for themselves those of men.”


I remember that, I cried when I first read about it and cried again just now. I also remember various posters around here laughing when I said I was frightened that extremely misogynistic views were being tolerated on this board. Well, you know what? When a man routinely uses rhetoric to blank out women's experience, there's no guaranteeing he will always limit himself to the verbal arena.
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby Stephen Morgan » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:35 am

Well I was specifically thinking about the war on women thread and the Irish thread and the planned parenthood and fossils threads, and the bullshit about meditation strengthening the brain, and the thread about the bijou little tribe in the Hindu Kush, which I now see Nordic actually started, my mistake on that one. That one was worse than any of yours, as far as I'm oncerned, with it's Kony 2012-style piquant racism. That's not to say you don't post some good stuff too, mind, you just happen to post a disproportionate amount of irrelevant fluff.

Like the petroglyphs, I'm sure they're very nice petroglyphs, but who cares? Now, petroglyphs like the ones written in Ogham found in New England, that alludes to a mysterious history of contact between continents, it's fascinating stuff, and the same goes for the punic inscriptions from Brazil or the possibile Egyptian remains in Australia, but these are just petroglyphs. They don't show signs of ancient nuclear explosions, or the survival of creatures after they were thought extinct, or the diffusion of culture where orthodox academia says it shouldn't be, they're just carving on rocks surrounded by trees. Maybe if they're been directly under the site of the tunguska explosion they'd have been interesting, but they weren't.

And the war on women thread, I know you're one of those into the feminist malarkey, but I was expecting, maybe, something about mass rape in the Congo or Sudan, something about coltan and evangelical mine-owners or Chinese oil companies or something, not that. Now, I'll agree that birth control ought to be provided, I think it also ought to extend to free condoms, which have even greater health benefits, but I don't think it's a major thing. But it wasn't even about that, that's happening anyway, this Obama mandate for private insurers to provide it as part of all coverage, no the thread was entirely about an idiot calling a student a whore, the archetypal dog-bites-man non-story.

And the rest just get on my nerves, I don't like Planned Parenthood because they started off trying to get rid of minorities, and I don't like the Irish post going on about "English landlords" that were actually Anglo-Irish, which is to say Irish, and often Irish-Irish and that the fault lay with the economic system not a ginger colour bar, and I really fucking hate hippy mumbo jumbo about meditation. I don't care how many open-heart surgeries you've done using only acupuncture as pain relief, you're still an gullible fool.

As for this thread, I'd have liked an article less obviously written by lying idiots. One which doesn't extensively quote Marcotte, most famous for making up extra lies in the Duke rape case, would be a good start. Perhaps one which doesn't associate self-immolation, a traditional extreme protest tactic as used by the likes of Vietnamese Buddhist monks, with Ander Breivik's mass child killing might be nice. Or an argument which didn't rely on unsupported generalisations, sexual shaming and assuming that the most extreme commenter on a blog is the representative of the mainstream of the movement rather than the people he's arguing with.

I would at least have expected a mention of the SPLC denouncing the men's movement as a hate group, as here. I mean if they haven't spotted that they must be horribly ignorant as well as biassed. What might have been enlightening would be if you could have provided an article about some actual link. You know, between a lawmaker and mister flammable, say, or between some actual act of violence and one of the organisations mentioned. But no such thing is forthcoming. I'm a sucker for a conspiracy, you know. Like, say, a secret forum where lobbyists and prominent journalists and child care providers and so on get together to talk about their hatred for the opposite sex, their desire to sexually mutilate four year olds, their plans for a campaign of fored eugenics to make the opposite sex more to their liking, that sort of thing. If you'd been able to show me one of those I'd have been interested. One with someone like the founder of Fathers for Justice, rather than this one which is all feminists. You see, that's how you do it. A proper conspiracy, with proper sinister ends and presented with proper evidence as to it's existence, intent and membership. You want to send that link to the author of the article in the OP, show 'em how it's done.
Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that all was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes, and make it possible. -- Lawrence of Arabia
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:58 am

You are a grumpty fart today.

Given that the Irish thread had lots of Celtic connections I'm sure you know more about Galatians, that that chap St Paul wrote his epistle to...
14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." 15 But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.


Slad is a frickken one person research unit. If you dont like posts, say why, by all means ask politely for a request, but please, FFS, dont moan like Victor Meldrew.

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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:15 am

"Stephen Morgan"



my mission in life has been accomplished...to annoy the fuck out of you

but I may continue to post here so if you'd like to save yourself some grief .....here's a clue asshole ....use it

I believe you did not find piles of bullshit posts in the last month...we could go back longer if you want but for now I just will call you an asshole....I did warn you

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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:18 pm

Stephen, you certainly wouldn't like all the awesome stuff seemslikeadream has been posting down in my beloved UFO and high weirdness subbasement.
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:56 pm

So, speaking as a moderator, what say I delete stephen's comment and all responses to it including this post here and we get back to what is an exceptionally interesting and strange story?

Won't do it without SLAD's OK, but I'd sure like to.
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby Project Willow » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:13 pm

^ OMFG, I can't believe it. I was just about to post this:


There will be no 30 page thread on the anti-woman rhetoric of Stephen Morgan.

Some forms of hatred are just more equal than others.
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:35 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:So, speaking as a moderator, what say I delete stephen's comment and all responses to it including this post here and we get back to what is an exceptionally interesting and strange story?

Won't do it without SLAD's OK, but I'd sure like to.



To tell the truth I was just about to send a pm to a mod about locking or moving this thread to the War on Women thread but as it happens I clicked on Nordic's The Kalash Tribe of Pakistan thread and completely changed my mind....I am sorry Wombat but I believe Morgan's posts should not be deleted in this thread without having to do the same in Nordic's. After what I read there he deserves my response here....if you delete you are covering for him...lettting him get away with this crap over and over and over...his posts should remain so all will know for certain without a doubt where he stands...he's got his right to his opinion and I have a right to mine.....I would say the common practice of warning him would be enough if you feel he is breaking the rules.....but deletion....no way
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:37 pm

Luther Blissett wrote:Stephen, you certainly wouldn't like all the awesome stuff seemslikeadream has been posting down in my beloved UFO and high weirdness subbasement.



Damn you Luther...is nothing sacred around here :P


now I'll be looking over my shoulder down there :shock2:
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:38 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:I am sorry Wombat but I believe Morgan's posts should not be deleted in this thread without having to do the same in Nordic's.


I can respect that, no problem. I was kinda thinking that myself.
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Re: Leader Suicide Reveal Frightening Violent Organized Miso

Postby utopiate » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:48 pm

Jeez SLAD, next time you post, make sure you’re all things to all people. :wink:
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