Simulist wrote:Pierre d'Achoppement wrote:Here's a 2hr+ video debunking David Icke from a christian perspective...
Hmm. If it were a truly "Christian perspective," he might try to "debunk" his own holey (hole-filled, not holy) beliefs, before debunking those of others — no matter how ridiculous theirs may seem to him (and in fact are).
Otherwise it's like a fat guy pointing the finger at another fat guy, and saying, "Damn! You're fat."
Whenever I see "X debunked !!! " an image of Richard Dawkins looking smarmy flashes into my head and I want punch myself in my WOO-filled Third Eye to get rid of it.
Anyway, back to the OP
One of the people I have been delving into recently is Dr Karla Turner (RIP) and she seems to have occupied that Jeff Wells-ian spherical field between poles of intuition and rigour.
The findings that she had indicated that non-human control of human perception was regularly at work in encounters.
For example one CE a subject had seemed to be with a beautiful 'Nordic' woman - who moved to embrace the guy and turned into something hideous (and Reptoid) that left claw marks down his chest.
AFAICR Icke puts forward the idea that "Reptilians" inhabit a kind of 'parallel world' that gives them access to this one.
I think it is more interesting to think of them (if existing) as either:
Quite physical and from here OR = Life inside the earth
Quite physical and NOT from here OR = Visiting / interacting non Earth species
Purely non physical = Standard Angelic / Demonic / Astral entities
or considering if they dont exist, there is a different conversation a Meta level about the dynamics and flow and objects and relations of the nebulous yet human endeavor known as
conspiracy theory...
Phrases such as "lower four dimensional" shows up as meaningless - what are these four dimensions? space? space/time?...