Bill Clinton on Aliens & the Human Genome

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Bill Clinton on Aliens & the Human Genome

Postby albion » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:08 am

<!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Clinton's worldview: part two<br></strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.financeasia.com/articles/4E718926-9027-7E17-4B7EF9778FE76A1C.cfm">www.financeasia.com/artic...E76A1C.cfm</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>The second part of former US President Clinton's keynote address to CLSA's Investor Forum in Hong Kong this Monday<br><br>[...] <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>From president to president, do you pass along a list of secrets - you know like where's Jimmy Hoffa? What really happened at Roswell? Without giving away any state secrets, is there something that we can all look forward to in the future to read about that you know that we don't know that will make reading the National Enquirer required reading?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>(Laughing and blushing) Well I don't know if you all heard this, but, there was actually, when I was president in my second term, there was an anniversary observance of Roswell. Remember that? People came to Roswell, New Mexico from all over the world. And there was also a site in Nevada where people were convinced that the government had buried a UFO and perhaps an alien deep underground because we wouldn't allow anybody to go there. And uhm… I can say now, 'cause it's now been released into the public domain. I had so many people in my own administration that were convinced that Roswell was a fraud but this place in Nevada was really serious, that there was an alien artefact there. So I actually sent somebody there to figure it out. And it was actually just a secret defence installation, alas, doing boring work that we didn't want anybody to else see.<br><br>So let me give you a serious thing, though. In 2000, I was able to participate with Tony Blair and representatives of the French, German and Japanese and Canadian governments in announcing that we had succeeded in sequencing the human genome. Perhaps some of you have investments in all these bio-development companies and now you know that we cloned Dolly the sheep and apparently they may have cloned a dog. And my own view is that assuming we don't do something stupid like burn ourselves up with the global warming or blow ourselves up with a military conflict that we could have just as easily avoid, I think a lot of these bio-technology issues will be the dominant sort of intellectual and ethical challenges of the lives of those of you who are 10, 20, 30 years younger than I am.<br><br>Because I think that we are going to be able to save peoples' lives that, you know, in my generation couldn't be saved. And we are going to come up against the limits of our own mortality in a way we never could before. And a lot of the things that happen - good and bad - will be stranger than anything ever written in science fiction. But I don't know the answers, which is one reason I would like to live to be 100 just to see what happens. (Laughter)<br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em><br>So that means there's a list? Or no list?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> (More laughter - that drowns out his question.)<br><br>What? What did you say? I don't know what you said, but you should have said, 'There's absolutely no risk of that. Given my misspent youth, I'm lucky to be here now.'<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>What I did say was, is there really no list? Or is there a list?</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>If there is one, I don't know it. The Roswell thing, I think, really was an illusion. I don't think it happened. I mean I think there are rational explanations and I did attempt to find out if there were any secret government documents that revealed things. If there were, they were concealed from me too. And if there were, well I wouldn't be the first American president that underlings have lied to, or that career bureaucrats have waited out. But there may be some career person sitting around somewhere, hiding these dark secrets, even from elected presidents. But if so, they successfully eluded me…and I'm almost embarrassed to tell you I did (chuckling) try to find out.<br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>(Laughter and applause.)</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I do believe, by the way - one more flaky thing - you can also be flaky when you're out of office. I believe that now that we know that there are not hundreds, not millions but billions of other solar systems out there, thanks to the Hubble telescope and what we know about black holes of the universe, and all of that, the dimensions of physics are such that I would be quite surprised if in the lifetimes of people that are no older than 30 years old, we don't discover some form of life in another universe.<br><br>It's pretty clear that there was something approaching elemental life on Mars at one time in the past, based on what we discovered there. So I say that, only to say this: I hope all of you, wherever you live, will continue to support space exploration, whether manned or unmanned, it's not so important, but that we keep doing it. And I'm afraid that there will be a waning interest in it, in the future. I think that's a great mistake. I think we should continue to explore the boundaries of our existence, both into the earth and beyond the skies.<br><br>When I was president we discovered in the bottom of the Amazon River, (we were just a small part of this, but we discovered) two previously undiscovered forms of marine life so deep in the Amazon that they had never been found, in all the efforts of marine biologists.<br><br>So I think that there are a lot of interesting discoveries - biological, on earth and other discoveries in the heavens that those of you who are younger will get to see unfold. You'll have all kinds of problems with them, but on balance it'll be a plus. And it'll make life much more interesting. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Bill Clinton on Aliens & the Human Genome

Postby dbeach » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:24 am

I though the thread said Bill Clinton is an alien..scusa me..<br>billy bob sure can fool the sheeple...<br><br>what a huckster... <p></p><i></i>
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scientific illiteracy

Postby Avalon » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:53 am

"the dimensions of physics are such that I would be quite surprised if in the lifetimes of people that are no older than 30 years old, we don't discover some form of life in another universe."<br><br>Oy vay. Should we maybe go through the steps of discovering life in this universe, or discovering another universe, before we go looking for life in other universes?<br><br>Didn't take many science courses at Oxford?<br> <p></p><i></i>
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"another universe"

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:59 am

That struck me as odd. He <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>should</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--> have known better. Maybe, since he was talking about the "dimensions of physics", he actually meant it in the sense of other dimensions and parallel worlds. <p></p><i></i>
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Parallel worlds?

Postby Avalon » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:06 am

Parallel worlds? The ones where someone killed Ken Starr's grandfather, so he never was born? The one where he got a Nobel Prize for peace for getting blowjobs from Monica?<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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I'll go out on a limb here...

Postby glubglubglub » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:39 am

If he's misinformed re: physics I'm just embarassing myself; I'm dropping the below speculation only b/c I'm assuming he's privy to some inside knowledge and let it slip via his turn of phrase there, either accidentally or on purpose.<br><br>My speculation: if some kind of free(ish) energy and/or antigravity and/or faster-than-light travel turn out to be possible they'll make at least limited travel 'sideways' (between other universes of non-vanishing probability) a reasonable possibility (perhaps b/c the ftl travel will probably involve punching temporary holes from point A to point B or some other such space-time manipulation). If that holds, the odds of 'extraterrestrial' visitors being also from some other universe is probably quite high -- the assumption is the tech enabling ftl travel and/or other 'magical' things makes the sideways travelling possible -- and thus it wouldn't be surprising if our 'aliens' turned out to be 'extradimensional' in some sense, too. <p></p><i></i>
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Very slick, Willie

Postby albion » Thu Sep 15, 2005 1:40 am

I thought this was kind of an interesting progression in that paragraph: <br><br>other solar systems > black holes > dimensions of physics > another universe<br><br>The phrase "the boundaries of our existence, both into the earth and beyond the skies" is curious too. Maybe he 's a hollow earther! <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Anyway, he may have been talking so off the cuff that there's no use parsing it so closely, but what the heck, it beats "I think I may need a bathroom break?" <p></p><i></i>
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