Two explosions at Boston marathon finish line

[Jerky]

Pfff... that second video looks like reasoned, informed commentary rather than unbridled, unthinking hate. And, considering what we've learned since... pretty much spot on. Or am I missing your point?

. when do you guys in the US think this will start officially:

September 11th 2001

[justdrew]

perspective...

(lots of pics atl ink)
http://theskiesbelongtous.com/the-story/
THE STORY

In an America torn apart by the Vietnam War and the demise of sixties idealism, airplane hijackings were astonishingly routine. Over a five-year period starting in 1968, the desperate and disillusioned seized commercial jets nearly once a week. Their criminal exploits mesmerized the country, never more so than when the young lovers at the heart of The Skies Belong to Us pulled off the longest-distance hijacking in American history.

A shattered Army veteran and a mischievous party girl, Roger Holder and Cathy Kerkow commandeered Western Airlines Flight 701 as a vague protest against the war. Through a combination of savvy and dumb luck, the couple managed to flee across an ocean with a half-million dollars in ransom, a feat that made them notorious around the globe. Over the ensuing years, their madcap adventures on the lam would involve exiled Black Panthers, African despots, and French movie stars.

Yet The Skies Belong to Us is more than just an enthralling yarn about a spectacular heist and its bittersweet aftermath. It is also a psychological portrait of America at its most turbulent, and a testament to the madness that can grip a nation when politics fail.

also...

[Jerky]

Godzilla help me, I kind of agree with her. Judging by her public statements, that Tsarnaev (BLEEP) is one sick (BLEEP)ing piece of work.

Here's a nice eight-minute hate for ya:

[Simulist]

Judge Jeanine Pirro could be reading Lao Tzu on the teleprompter, and she'd still sound like she's lying.

[justdrew]

oh why subject yourself to that gawbagge

[barracuda]

What seems to be an eyewitness to the death of Tamerlan Tsarnaev at 11:35 in this video:



Also:

Katherine Russell DNA, Fingerprints Do Not Match Fragments Of Boston Marathon Bomb

[slimmouse]

Some serious analysis from 21st Century wires Patrick Henningsen regarding both the Boston attacks and the bigger global picture;

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/20 ... 130428.php

This led me in turn to his website, which also looks somewhat informative. this being his latest offering regarding Boston,

As more insights into the life and death of dead Boston Bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev continues to unfold, based on the available evidence – it’s becoming more and more obvious that he was either an FBI and/or CIA informant (or both), who was chosen to be set up as a fall guy, or patsy for the Boston Bombings. In this instance, he would also have needed a “handler” – someone who could help to steer and influence his day-to-day decision making. That person could be someone was very close to him. This leak appeared on Brasscheck TV’s Facebook page a few days ago:

“CONFIRMED: Katherine Russell (alleged bomber’s wife) is granddaughter of Richard Warren Russell, Skull and Bones member and entrepreneur in the energy industry.


PHOTO: Like his Uncle Ruslan, Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s Islamic convert wife is connected the highest levels of US intelligence.

Russell’s obituary lists Warren King Russell II as son – and that’s Katherine’s emergency room doctor father.

That means wife had family spook connections as well as husband Tamerlan (Uncle Rusla). And both had fast, dramatic and uncharacteristic conversions to a perverted form of Islam favored by the gangster family that runs Saudi Arabia and works hand in hand with our spooks.

What does a massive coincidence like this mean?

You tell me. All I can do is report the stuff no one else seems to be able to get around to. (Nice in-depth front page article today Washington Post on the “mystery” of Tamerlan that breathes a hint of none of this.)

Katherine reportedly wanted to join the Peace Corps. Maybe she actually joined the agency the Peace Corps is a cover for…”

The CIA is well-known to be a family agency that includes “legacies” in extremely key, or sensitive positions. Katherine’s character in the Tsarnaev story should be looked at more closely, even if, for reasons still yet unknown, she is being completely ignored, and totally unchallenged by the mainstream media. Was she the driving force behind his alleged jihadism, or was she merely keeping a close eye on him?

I would be good for America to know more about Katherine Russell. Her mere presence in this story is an anomaly in itself – one which does not add up at all.

When she is called on to do the talk show circuit, or when her book deal goes live – America will be listening very closely to her story for sure.

Much more at the link

http://21stcenturywire.com/2013/05/04/t ... nnections/

[seemslikeadream]

thanks...maybe that's why the fingerprints weren't her's

[FourthBase]

Guys by every means, please keep posting new information.

But, also, perhaps now would be a good time to re-read the whole thread.
I posted that the information about Katherine Russell was confirmed several pages ago.

Page 1, then 2, then 3, then...each page...until, what, now...123?

[Hunter]

Friday, May 3, 2013
By Greg Palast from Vice.com UK

[Astana, Kazakhstan] Following the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001, I received documents marked "SECRET" from the files of the FBI's Washington field office. The information in those files will make you sick.

[Click through to get a free download of the film Bush Family Fortunes, which contains the fascinating background to this story.]
When the bombs went off at the Boston Marathon, I grabbed those FBI files – and a plane for Kazakhstan, bullying cameraman Rocco D into joining me. [Rocco, no fool, won't let me print his full name.]

After we landed, word came that two Kazakh teens, friends of the bombers, had been arrested by Boston police and, yesterday, charged with hiding evidence of the bombers' guilt.

Here in Astana, Kazakhstan's capital, televisions everywhere run endless loops of the bombs going off at the Boston Marathon, the screams, the blood, the victims... and the questions.

And first question: How do a couple of wholesome Call-of-Duty-playing American kids get the idea they should murder and mangle their neighbors to avenge the Muslims of Chechnya—whom the victims probably couldn't find on a map?

The second question: How did America's trillion-dollar intelligence apparatchiks wave off warnings from Russia about one of the bomber's connections to the Chechen militants?

The answer regarding the intelligence failure is, to paraphrase the famous journalist Yogi Berra: it's amazing what you don't see when you don't look.

And that's related to the how young Muslim-Americans came to kill other young Americans over Chechnya.

According to the secret memo, long before the Boston bombing, even before the September 11 attack, the FBI shut down an investigation of a group that ran a summer camp in Florida for America's Muslim teenagers.

No, we shouldn't be spying on Islamic campers. However, besides the usual swimming and soccer, these youngsters were encouraged to join the Chechen jihad. The kiddies were treated to videos praising Chechen bombers (who seized a school and hospital then killed their hostages). The group also produced an educational film praising, "that compassionate young man, Osama bin Laden".

Hey, it was a family affair. Camp Jihad was run by the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), whose operation just outside Washington DC was directed in the US by a man the FBI called "ABL" – Abdullah Binladden, Osama's brother.

When the Kazakh friends of the Boston bombers were arrested, I went back to that "SECRET" memo. It fell into my hands in November 2001, just two months after that "compassionate young man" Osama killed thousands in my office building (I once worked at the World Trade Center).

Why would my own government spike an investigation that might have saved lives in New York in 2001 [and in Boston in 2013]?

My producer at BBC Television called the FBI. They did not deny the authenticity of the secret documents. Well, then, if the US government has evidence someone may be illegally recruiting killers for Chechnya (as well as the Bosnia war), why in the world would you shut down the investigation and hide the findings?

The official answer was even more chilling than the secret memo itself. The FBI spokesman told us at BBC:

"There are lots of things only the intelligence community knows and that no one else ought to know."


Well, what else are we not supposed to know?

We got the answer on November 9, 2001, when I received a call at BBC's Newsnight desk in London from a US intelligence agent via a "clean" phone. The spook confirmed that, beginning as early as 1995, the CIA and other US spy agencies were told to stand down from investigating the bin Laden family in both the US and in France.

Several insiders repeated the same story: US agencies turned a blind eye to the bin Laden-terrorist-Chechen-jihad connection out of fear of exposing the US government's half-assed—and half-illegal—support for these terrorists.

Our government gave ABL a pass (and safe passage back to Saudi Arabia) because Presidents Clinton and Bush were more than happy that our Saudi allies were sending jihadis to Afghanistan, then, via WAMY, helping Muslims to fight in Bosnia then, later, giving the Russians grief in Chechnya.

The problem is that terrorists are like pigeons – they come home to roost.

As Joe Trento of the National Security News Service, who provided crucial help to our investigation, told me, "It would be unseemly if [someone] were arrested by the FBI and word got back that he'd once been on the payroll of the CIA… What we're talking about is blow-back. What we're talking about is embarrassing, career-destroying blow-back for intelligence officials."

It's utterly unlikely the young Boston bombers were on the CIA payroll, but it's more than likely the elder brother's connections here in Central Asia could be traced back to US-protected killers of years past.

The sleight-of-hand to keep public eyes off the US juicing Chechen terror is almost fun to watch. There's surprisingly little official scrutiny of the media's new heart-throb, Ruslan Tsarni, the bombers' uncle. The Washington Post, praising Uncle Ruslan's "I LOVE AMERICA" schtick, noted,

"[Ruslan's] performance will be sewn into the rotation of TV news from here on out. Later, on MSNBC, Tom Ridge spoke highly of the message of ‘promise and hope' sent by Tsarni."

I would venture to guess that this was not the first time Mr. Ridge, first director of the US Department of Homeland Security, had heard Ruslan's messages. Ruslan founded the Congress of Chechen International Organizations and has lucrative work here in Kazakhstan as a USAID contractor and oil industry lawyer.

There is zero—and I mean zero—evidence that Uncle Ruslan or the CIA hired these two sad-ass kids in Boston to blow up their neighbors. The point here is that the FBI is too concerned about making sure that "no one else ought to know" about our government playing footsie with terrorists—and too unconcerned about the blow-back that blows up in Boston.

* * * * * * * *

Greg Palast investigated terror attacks on the US for BBC TV.

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Greg Palast is the author of the New York Times bestsellers Billionaires & Ballot Bandits: How to Steal an Election in 9 Easy Steps, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, Armed Madhouse and the highly acclaimed Vultures' Picnic, just named Book of the Year on BBC Newsnight Review.

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[Hunter]

Greg making good points as to how many of these terrorists were once on the payroll and used by us when it was to our advantage and even though there is no evidence of Tamerlan being connected, those who trained him very likely were and are connected to US intelligence.

[Hunter]

Must Read, three part series by Mother Jones detailing the FBIs role in helping create terrorists:


http://www.motherjones.com/special-repo ... informants

[MacCruiskeen]

Correct.

BOSTON -- The angry and grieving mother of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects insists that her sons are innocent and that she's no terrorist.

[...]

Tsarnaeva, who lives in Russia's Dagestan region, echoed the boys' father, Anzor, who yesterday said he believed they had been framed.

"It is really, really a hard thing to hear. And being a mother, what I can say is that I am really sure, I am, like, 100 percent sure, that this is a set-up," she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/2 ... 77164.html

Respect.

Evidence implicating the Tsarnaev bros. in Boston Bombing?

If anyone has any such evidence, please post it here [in the Data Dump]. So far, I personally have seen no such evidence anywhere. Not a smidgeon of it.

(Unsubstantiated allegations by anonymous or unverifiable sources do not count as evidence. These include the statements allegedly made by "Danny" [sic], the allegedly carjacked driver, as well as the admissions allegedly made by the person alleged to be Dzhokhar Tsarnaev who is currently being held in a prison hospital by the FBI.)

Thank you in advance.

viewtopic.php?f=33&t=36337

Let's see it.

[Hunter]

The only evidence we have is still pics that they were there at the marathon but even then those could be faked I suppose, they claim to have video evidence but havent released it and I am sure they wont, most evidence will be preserved for trial so we wont see much before then if ever.

[8bitagent]

Tamerlan's wife is the granddaddy of a SandB alumni and well connected figure? Curious.

Btw is it bad that two weeks later Im still seering with that horrific image of the guy who's lower leg was nothing more than literal bone? Thats one of the weirdest injury images Ive ever seen, like
he had a bone pegleg. So horrific. I cant see how people can call that "fake".

And sorry, that "Judge" on Fox...ugh...it aint a lie that other than Napolitaliano, most the people on Fox make your skin crawl.