11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby brainpanhandler » Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:04 pm

2012 Countdown wrote:And if in any way you read into my words that the links you posted were somehow something I took issue with (2), this is hardly the case. I was simply replying to a sentence I'd extracted is all. No offense intended, no anti-article or anti-posting of article sentiment expressed.


I didn't take it that way. I was responding to your overly broad characterization of "the way education works these days".


No harm meant or offense intended. Excuse my poor wording and for the attempt at replying to your links.


Zero offense was taken and no apology is necessary. Merely exchanging ideas.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby FourthBase » Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:13 pm

FourthBase wrote:So, the president mentioned P-TECH in the State of the Union!

It's a technical school in NYC, however.

(Ripe for a YouTube edit that inserts P-Tech in his sentences about security and enemies, etc.)

(Could maybe re-arrange and piece together enough to approximate an alt-universe utopian SOTU wherein the president boasts that the real criminals behind 9/11 have finally been brought to justice, or something.)


Person of Interest last night featured a very P-Tech-ish company.

http://personofinterest.wikia.com/wiki/Trojan_Horse

http://www.rickey.org/person-of-interes ... jan-horse/

The recap of Person of Interest – Season 2 Episode 19 – “Trojan Horse”:

Person of Interest returned with a bang tonight. It was a crazy episode; and indeed, one of the least predictable episodes of the entire series. The writers can do no wrong. When I heard that Agent Shaw (Sarah Shahi) was returning to POI, I thought she would be the main focus of the episode. But unlike her previous episode, she played a minor role in this episode.

In the previous episode, Detective Shamansky was found murdered inside of a secluded building. So in an attempt to dig up some answers in regards to Shamansky’s death, Finch (Michael Emerson) visited Elias in prison. Then, Elias spewed out nonsense without answering Finch’s question.

The number was a woman named Monica Jacobs (Traci Thoms) – one of the supervisors at Rylatech. Little did she know that her newest IT Specialist was in fact a genius. (Finch acted as the newest IT Specialist at Rylatech to keep a close eye on Monica). Finch initially thought Monica was a spy; but in actuality, her colleague Justin Lee was a spy. Somebody – who had killed Justin the night prior – also took his lifeless body with him/her. Finch also discovered Justin was using the alias “Justin Lee” and that he was actually working as a spy for the entire Republic of China.

Detective Carter (Taraji P. Henson) asked Detective Fusco (Kevin Chapman) to tail Detective Cal Beecher (Sterling K. Brown). Carter strongly believed that Beecher was in on Shamansky’s death, so Fusco confronted Beecher inside the Men’s bathroom. This confrontation made no difference as Beecher met up with Quinn (Clarke Peters) from HR later that evening. We later find out that Quinn set up Beecher and this ‘set-up’ had gotten Beecher killed. I don’t understand why the writers killed off Beecher’s character. And it sucks big time that he died before Carter had the opportunity to apologize to him. I really wanted to see them together.

Agent Shaw (Sarah Shahi) also returned to the series tonight. I’m glad the powers that be listened to the fans. Sarah Shahi is such a badass actress, and Jonathan Nolan MUST cast her as a Regular for Season 3. She makes the show a lot more exciting. In tonight’s episode, she found a way to climb into Finch’s humble abode (his library), and she also tailed Reese (Jim Caviezel). In Shaw’s previous episode, her own employers killed her beloved colleague in Michael Cole. Said employers are after Cole’s parents as well. Reese was trying to protect Cole’s parents from getting killed.

Let’s get back to this week’s number, Monica Jacobs. She found out that her own personal assistant of two years – Jerome – was a spy as well. When he tried to beat up Monica, Reese ass-kicked Jerome. (Jerome’s own employers killed him thereafter). Later, Finch revealed his true identity to Monica, and she was relieved to have somebody else on her side. I must say: Finch and Monica have great chemistry. Monica’s tech-savvy skills prompted a crush from Finch. It was endearing to watch.

Before Jerome had been killed, he sold Monica out by telling his other higher-ups that she was a “spy.” That couldn’t have been further from the truth because she was not the spy – she was actually tracking down a real spy in Justin Lee.

Jerome, Justin Lee, Martin (Monica’s boss), and several other employees at Rylatech were working as spies for the Republic of China. Monica’s boss Martin turned his soul over to the Republic of China; thus allowing China to hack into the U.S. government only because he wanted to save Rylatech from going bankrupt. (He prioritized his company over all of the United States of America). At the end of the episode, Martin committed suicide.

The next morning, Finch realized that the spies at Rylatech were also working for ‘Decima Technologies.’ Said organization is currently attempting to infect The Machine and kill the man behind The Machine. This can’t happen! Somebody save Finch!

Thanks for reading this recap of “Trojan Horse”! This show keeps getting better and better.


That recap doesn't do justice to the Rylatech/P-Tech parallel.
The scheme was basically plagiarized from real-life, except sub out China for...whatever.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby 82_28 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:38 pm

FourthBase wrote:
2012 Countdown wrote:
NeonLX wrote:They put surveillance cameras in the offices where I work.

Nobody cared. Nobody even noticed. I ain't kidding.


This is going on all over. Automated receptionists too. Maybe remote call in receptionists. Monitoring of all sorts as well.
The slaves, becoming more desperate all the time, back bite, fight amongst themselves, for crumbs.
The uppers get new caddys though, so all is not lost. Just be an upper, won't you?

Edit: btw, well put 82. Great comparison to 'Kent State' as illustration...or the Kennedy Assassination as well. This is the world we were born into. Now as the program runs on, it is the now 15 year olds and younger that live in the lie of 9/11.


I have good news, everyone. The 9/11 generation of kids are gonna be alright. In fact, guess what growing up with the unrestricted entirety of the world's knowledge in your palm can do for one's sense of curiosity and one's trust for authority? The kids who just graduated college or entered high school in 2013 are not some swarm of credulous superficial CoD addicts. In fact, how many of them do you suppose discovered 9/11 conspiracy theories online at the age of, like, 10? Relax. A little, anyway.


What safer tack to take that saying one agrees and also disagrees? :partyhat

I think that we are misplacing what is up to us and what happens to us. There is far less that happens than we actually warrant upon our own individual accords than is done without our personal approval. Sure, I agree, relax, there's nothing to be done about it anyhow, until something is done. This is the way it's always been done, you do it in your own head and you make friends. Never have an agenda, BUT, when pressed, use a lot of "fuckity fucks" and "are you fucking kidding me's" and "I know rights" and then always have some kind of follow up. I believe we are here, well at least I am here, just to be here and milk the most out of my time here by never doing something ever again evil. I don't know if there is that fabled "greater good" other than it takes next to nothing to make me cry in deep sadness for just about anything -- shit I detect where others may detect it as well, but choose to do nothing. But, I also have opinions -- deep seated emotional and idealistic opinions about kindness. I think that is where I get fucked with in day to day life. On one hand all I am is a fucking teddy bear in all ways, but can super seriously erupt in always tempered but very abrasive ways. I'm punk, yo and also just a normal guy and also somebody who gives a fuck about the most random little life forms that I dedicate whole days and shit to like birds nests and shit when I sense they are in trouble.

I will level with you all, it is tough to be a bartender and have a simultaneous thick and thin skin. I think my "fucks" and use of profanity are compensatory but also necessary. But I will never relax, even a little when it comes to mind games. I think the thing is to ask questions, because questioning and comprehension is what is feared the most with those who call themselves "authorities". God does not speak to us, does not exist and yet does exist and also speak to us. What this tells us, is that there is no authority and all authorities are fake. Because, end of day, it comes down to you and yours with a perpetual menace breathing down your neck.

Here's another thing: To believe it exists materially is one thing, but to disbelieve it exists immaterially is to force the double negative into existence. Authority only exists in the material cosmos. Unfortunately, this affects the very feelings, emotions and sensations that rule our immaterial existences which are controlled, falsely, by something that seems to exist because it can only control us by physical means.

9/11. . .
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby NeonLX » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:26 am

Yeah. It's hard to keep "giving a fvck" in this reality. Agonizingly, mind-bendingly and heart-breakingly difficult.

But I can't not; my inner being or whatever the hell it is won't let me.

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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby justdrew » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:52 am

ahem...

this is in keeping with the trend of "what was was advanced secrets eventually get co-discovered by others"

photos and links at site:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/cybercrime-and-hacking/22036/hacker-uses-android-remotely-attack-and-hijack-airplane

The Hack in the Box (#HITB2013AMS) security conference in Amsterdam has a very interesting lineup of talks [pdf]. One that jumped out was the Aircraft Hacking: Practical Aero Series presented by Hugo Teso, a security consultant at n.runs in Germany. According to the abstract, “This presentation will be a practical demonstration on how to remotely attack and take full control of an aircraft, exposing some of the results of my three years research on the aviation security field. The attack performed will follow the classical methodology, divided in discovery, information gathering, exploitation and post-exploitation phases. The complete attack will be accomplished remotely, without needing physical access to the target aircraft at any time, and a testing laboratory will be used to attack virtual airplanes systems.

While keeping an eye on Twitter #HITB2013AMS, greatly interesting tweets started to appear as hackers who attended were excited. I will add some of those throughout this article.Hijack an airplane with your Android

Controlling the trajectory of an airplane with the accelerometer of a mobile phone Before his presentation, Teso recommended that people should have a little background knowledge on aviation and aircraft systems to better understand what he was going to explain. Here’s a few important facts: Automated Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) has no security as was pointed out at Def Con 20 shortly before a hacker was able to inject ghost planes into radar. It is unencrypted and unauthenticated. Teso said, “Attacks range from passive attacks (eavesdropping) to active attacks (message jamming, replaying, injection.” The Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) also has no security; it “is used for exchanging text messages between aircraft and ground stations via radio (VHF) or satellite.” Although his talk did not focus on the vulnerabilities in those two protocols, he used them to find targets.

Hugo Teso demonstrated complete pwning onboard Airplane Flight Control from a mobile application Anyone with the right tools and a little know-how can read and send these ACARS messages. Teso purchased hardware from eBay that provided “actual flight code software” for “training” such as Flight Management System made by Rockwell. He also needed a radio transmitter and explained about software radio systems before the talk. He audited real aircraft code, searching for vulnerabilities to exploit, but used a lab with virtual airplanes as opposed to hijacking an actual jet in flight. Hijacking a real plane during a flight was “too dangerous and unethical.”

Help Net Security was present at the demo and explained:

By taking advantage of two new technologies for the discovery, information gathering and exploitation phases of the attack, and by creating an exploit framework (SIMON) and an Android app (PlaneSploit) that delivers attack messages to the airplanes' Flight Management Systems (computer unit + control display unit), he demonstrated the terrifying ability to take complete control of aircrafts by making virtual planes "dance to his tune."

According to Teso’s presentation slides [pdf], the ACARS datalink allowed for “real-time data transmission” and all communications between planes and airports are sent unencrypted. Teso used ACARS to exploit and break into the airplane’s onboard computer system and then upload Flight Management System (FMS) data. FMS could be uploaded by software defined radio and ground service providers.

Flight Management System exploited via Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System

Once he was into the airplane’s computer, he was able to manipulate the steering of a Boeing jet while the aircraft was in “autopilot” mode. The only countermeasure available to pilots, if they even realized they were being hacked, would be to turn off autopilot. PlaneSploit Android app to hijack airplanes by Hugo TesoYet many planes no longer have old analog instruments for manual flying. Teso said he could take control of most all airplane systems; he could even cause the plane to crash by setting it on a collision course with another plane. He could also give the passengers a serious adrenaline rush by making the oxygen masks drop down.

Teso used his Samsung Galaxy and a specially crafted app called PlaneSploit to demonstrate how to hack an airplane’s computer. (Thank you for tweeting the image @isa56k!) Crime Site also showed a quick clip of the hack. And no, PlaneSploit is not going to be available to the masses to hijack planes with their Android devices.

Help Net Security said that some of the functions that Teso showed off were:

Please go here: A way of interacting with the plane where the user can dynamically tap locations on the map and change the plane's course.
Define area: Set detailed filters related to the airplane, for example activate something when a plane is in the area of X kilometers or when it starts flying on a predefined altitude.
Visit ground: Crash the airplane.
Kiss off: Remove itself from the system.
Be punckish: A theatric way of alerting the pilots that something is seriously wrong - lights start flashing and alarms start buzzing.

Hack in the Box Pwning airplane systems with a software radio and some skills Just the same, as you might imagine, numerous security people that heard Teso’s talk on hacking and hijacking airplanes are not looking forward the their next flight.

Another not-too-comforting thought by Teso was that many aircraft onboard computers are running outdated software and fail to meet modern safety requirements. While all airplanes are not doomed, they are not exactly safe either. Teso said he’s woorking on the next version of ACARS which will be encrypted. The ACARS successor will roll out over the next 20 years.

Hack in the Box Amsterdam was quick and has posted the presentation slides for all of today's talks.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Tue May 07, 2013 3:19 pm

17-Year Cicadas Horrified To Learn About 9/11
The Onion
May 7, 2013


NEW YORK—Following their synchronized emergence this week after gestating underground since 1996, a colossal swarm of 17-year cicadas were horrified today to learn about the events of September 11, 2001. “Holy shit, are you serious?” said one member of the East Coast brood of winged insects, expressing its continued shock and horror about the coordinated terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of 3,000 people. “They just flew the planes right into the fucking buildings? Man, oh, man. People must have just been completely freaking out. Christ, I know I would have been.” At press time, the 17-year cicadas were beginning to express serious doubts about how two structures supported by reinforced concrete and steel beams could just collapse like that
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby justdrew » Tue May 07, 2013 6:09 pm

[imgur-album]http://imgur.com/a/LvPLI[/imgur-album]
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby 82_28 » Tue May 07, 2013 6:21 pm

It's kind of a lame thing to say, but I wonder how much money was pocketed by the clean up crew. Say you came across a stack of hundies. You'd just pocket it right?

Like I said, I hate to say it, but I've always wondered about that.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby 8bitagent » Wed May 08, 2013 3:32 am

The black lords of chaos realized one needeth need a multi year, thickly complex massive summer blockbust movie event to transfix the public...
just a ghetto IED with 1/1000th the victims. If there is such wizards. Maybe the agent of chaos is just the cosmic hiccup.

Anyways, Sigfried and Roy's disappearing towers act may as well happened in the last century. Way down the memory hole cept for residual triggers forever impressed.
An act that almost seems like it was from a feverish dream. Did it even happen? 3000 dead, hundreds of thousands killed/maimed in its wake.
We're no closer to "the truth(tm)" then we were on september 12 2001 nor will we be in a hundred years. Most people no longer need to question it, and only a few
people seemed to even understand it. It's almost become just a strange abstract painting hanging in a museum. "A Clear Blue Tuesday" - 2001 by unknown artist.

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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby FourthBase » Wed May 08, 2013 11:54 am

We're no closer to "the truth(tm)" then we were on september 12 2001 nor will we be in a hundred years.


Inaccurate, and needless. Chin up, dude!
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu May 09, 2013 5:08 am

Fuck the truth, get rid of the patriot act.
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby justdrew » Thu May 09, 2013 5:10 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Fuck the truth, get rid of the patriot act.


repealing the "Authorization for the use of Force" (AUMF) is probably more important, but hey, let's do both!

this is the enabling act...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_Terrorists
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby 8bitagent » Sat May 11, 2013 2:41 am

The infamous pulled Saturday Night Live sketch about 9/11 put options
https://vimeo.com/64136086
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby Jerky » Sat May 11, 2013 3:13 am

There really are people like that. And those people really do deserve to die.

8bitagent wrote:The infamous pulled Saturday Night Live sketch about 9/11 put options
https://vimeo.com/64136086
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Re: 11 Years After That Clear Blue Tuesday...

Postby 82_28 » Sat May 11, 2013 5:40 am

8bitagent wrote:The infamous pulled Saturday Night Live sketch about 9/11 put options
https://vimeo.com/64136086


OMG that's great. One must wonder what all of these luminaries in the biz really think. That was really in your face.

You knew about 9/11 before it happened?

Basically.
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