The Clitoris: A Recent Discovery in Human Anatomy (NSFW)

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Postby ida pingala » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:41 pm

Project Willow wrote:Semper, those are great!

Ida, yes, as it is for the time being anyway. The infamous G-spot may be renamed and included in the clitoral system over the next few years in which case I'll need to revise the drawing.

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I have heard that the clitoral system extends for some from the top of the head to the tip of the toes. That would make those two C-notes (C-spots) an octave apart, by my reckoning.

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Postby Allegro » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:33 am

ida pingala wrote:I have heard that the clitoral system extends for some from the top of the head to the tip of the toes. That would make those two C-notes (C-spots) an octave apart, by my reckoning.

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Re: The Clitoris: A Recent Discovery in Human Anatomy (NSFW)

Postby Allegro » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:53 am

Project Willow wrote:Allegro, you are welcome to see my clit if you ever find yourself in the area.
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Postby Allegro » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:24 am

More Importantly.
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Postby Project Willow » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:57 pm

:hug1: back to you guys, made my night! :wink:
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Postby Project Willow » Thu May 23, 2013 2:34 pm

ADP news and recent discoveries...

Cultural Cliteracy: Exposing the Contexts of Women's Not Coming
Susan Ekberg Stiritz
Washington University in Saint Louis - College of Arts & Sciences
May 21, 2009

Berkeley Journal of Gender, Law & Justice, Vol. 23, 2008
Washington U. School of Law Working Paper No. 09-05-01

Abstract:
Cultural cliteracy denotes what an adequately educated person should know about the clitoris. This paper elaborates three ways to enlarge understandings of the clitoris. The first looks at the clitoris as a target of male aggression, a significant and persistent theme in Western history. The second describes an expanded anatomy of the clitoris, one which makes it as large and significant as the penis. The third connects consciousness of clitoral facts with empowerment beyond genital satisfaction and demonstrates that cultural cliteracy can improve readings of women's texts. To conclude, cultural cliteracy is shown to fuel growth, creativity, and individuation and to help women find and express personal power. This claim implies that integrating better understandings of and attitudes towards the clitoris into other academic and professional discourses could help women come into their own.

“In order to perpetuate itself, every oppression must corrupt or distort those
various sources of power within the culture of the oppressed that can provide
energy for change. For women, this has meant suppression of the erotic as a
considered source of power and information within our lives.”1

1. Audré Lorde, The Uses of the Erotic: The Erotic as Power, in SISTER OUTSIDER: ESSAYS
AND SPEECHES 53, 53 (1984).

Full article pdf available for download: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1408185





Another artist promoting Cliteracy...






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Postby FourthBase » Thu May 23, 2013 3:49 pm

http://www.amazon.com/Vaginal-orgasm-hy ... B0007HBPBE

http://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Odyssey-Co ... 0825630169

"Vaginal orgasm is an excellent illustration of the way men oppress and exploit women. It's ironic that you insist men and women respond the same in the one place no one can deny men and women are different -- in their genitals. This difference is the basis for the whole distinction between men and women and the ground for the inequities that are heaped on women by men. But men have no shame."

"A man's penis and a woman's vagina are obviously different. Male orgasm is analogous to clitoral orgasm. Where, then, does vaginal orgasm come from? People say it's learned. And by God you'd better learn it, lady, especially if you're with a liberal man; you'd better learn to shuffle, n****r, because if you don't you won't get the job. And you want to eat, don't you? Why should she learn vaginal orgasm? Because that's what men want. How about a facial tic? What's the difference?

- Ti-Grace Atkinson

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Postby Project Willow » Thu May 23, 2013 4:28 pm

4B, there's plenty of info on that very topic in this thread. She's both right and wrong. Freud's creation of the immature clitoral vs. mature vaginal orgasm theory was a travesty for female sexual expression as long as it held sway.

Male and female sexual organs are homologous, meaning they are formed from tissue structures that start out identical in utero. Penetration of the vagina can stimulate Skene's gland, the female equivalent of the male prostate, or in other words the G-spot (yes, it's real, some women just have more tissue there than others). It also creates pressure on the other surrounding erectile tissue in the clitoral system, such as the vestibular bulbs and crura. However, just as the glans or head of the penis is the most sensitive area, stimulation of the glans of the clitoris, (the protruding mound above the urethral opening that most people know as the clitoris), is the most direct route to orgasm for women, in a majority of cases.
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Postby Project Willow » Thu May 23, 2013 4:30 pm

LOL! My hands insist on typing prostrate for prostate.
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Postby stickdog99 » Fri May 24, 2013 12:59 am

There are still two kinds of female orgasms:




















clitoral and fake
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Postby Project Willow » Fri May 24, 2013 4:47 pm

^ The whole idea is to eradicate the need, even a perceived need for the latter. :bigsmile
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Postby stickdog99 » Fri May 24, 2013 7:32 pm

the dude abides
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Postby Simulist » Fri May 24, 2013 9:40 pm

Project Willow » Thu May 23, 2013 1:30 pm wrote:LOL! My hands insist on typing prostrate for prostate.

As I was growing up, my mom and dad would take me to church (I'm currently a lapsed atheist), and everyone would sing "All Hail the Power of Jesus' Name"; the next line of the hymn was "Let angels prostrate fall."

A friend of the family had recently had prostate surgery and, for the life of me, I couldn't figure out what the angels were all doing with theirs — or why their prostates kept falling out!

Those poor angels...
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Re: The Clitoris: A Recent Discovery in Human Anatomy (NSFW)

Postby Project Willow » Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:21 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23287032

The surgeon helping women after genital mutilation
By Linda Pressly BBC News, Barcelona
24 July 2013 Last updated at 19:20 ET

In Barcelona, a doctor offers reconstructive surgery to women of African origin who were subjected to female genital mutilation (FGM) as children - but some experts say the operation cannot possibly work, and undermines the campaign to prevent FGM being carried out in the first place.

It is three weeks before her operation, and Wenkune is scared.

"Any surgery is frightening, but this is so serious, it affects you a lot. It's hard to imagine that something that was taken away from you so long ago can be replaced. You have no idea how you will face the change that's coming," she reflects.

Wenkune was born in Burkino Faso and has been living in Spain for 10 years. She is nearly 40, the mother of four children, and an activist for women's rights. And she lives with the memories of what happened to her when she was five years old.

"It's like a film in my head. Whenever I go back to my village, I remember. The spot by the river where they cut me, the house they took me to afterwards. If you've been that maltreated and abused, it's something you just can't remove from your head."

Dr Barri, surgeon:

There's a physical outcome from the procedure, but there's also a psychological one. And that's about not being different any more”

She hopes the surgery might help her recover psychologically.

Dr Barri has operated on over 40 women so far at the private Instituto Universitario Dexeus hospital where he heads up the surgical gynaecology team. The procedure involves excavating the buried clitoris - the part that was not destroyed during the mutilation - and exposing it once more.

"The aim of the operation is to restore the clitoral anatomy and its function," explains Dr Barri.

"It means removing all scar tissue, and then identifying the remaining clitoris and replacing it in the natural place. It isn't complicated surgery."

The technique was pioneered by Dr Pierre Foldes, a French surgeon, and Dr Barri learned how to do it when he studied in Paris.

Rosa is scheduled to have the procedure on the same day as Wenkune. Rosa is 20, was born in Guinea Bissau, and has lived in Europe since she was 12. She is bright and lively, and lives with Thiago (not his real name), her Spanish boyfriend. But she is deeply troubled.

"Before I was with Thiago, I didn't realise what was wrong because nobody had touched me there. I just knew I had something weird - that some of my friends had something and I had barely anything.

"I didn't really care about it, but with Thiago… Well, he would talk about the clitoris… And when he touched me, I was very sensitive. I liked it, but it was traumatic too because I would remember when I was a child. I was five or six when my grandmother and some of her friends cut me. I remember a few images - someone holding my arms and someone else holding my legs."

Rosa hopes the operation will change the way she feels about being touched. But she wants more than that: "I want to feel like other women", she says.

Dr Barri says he hears this often from his patients: "There's a physical outcome from the procedure, but there's also a psychological one. And that's about not being different any more."

It is a complex process for these women - by seeking surgery, they are going against the traditions of their home communities.

"And that is why we don't have a whole lot of patients coming to us," says Dr Barri. "We only see women who have decided to break those community rules. The first patients we saw were very scared - it was almost like they thought they were doing something illegal."

Rosa and Wenkune both have the support of their partners, but they have told only one or two other close associates about the surgery.

There is a worry from some FGM activists that the prevention message could be undermined if African communities believe FGM is something that can be reversed. Dr Barri does not agree.

"Offering reconstruction and talking about it is a very good tool to do prevention," he argues. "We sometimes go out and give presentations to women's associations and NGOs, and we also talk to the parents of our patients. They are surprised to find out what women lose when they undergo FGM. And when information gets to parents, they don't mutilate their daughters."
Dr Barr and one of his patients

On the day Rosa and Wenkune are admitted to hospital they are both extremely nervous. Wenkune has brought her Bible with her to give her courage.

The operation takes less than an hour. They stay overnight at the hospital in private rooms, and go home the next day. Dr Barri says the results of the operation are usually good.

"About 90% have good anatomical restoration - that means it's not perfect, but someone who doesn't really understand a lot won't see any big difference. And 70% of patients recover feeling of the area."

I'm having a bad time because of the pain I'm in. It's like I'm reliving the moment they mutilated me”

Wenkune, speaking after her operation

Last year Dr Pierre Foldes - the pioneer of the surgery - and his colleagues published a study in the Lancet. In 11 years, his team operated on nearly 3,000 women. A one-year follow-up was attended by 866 or 29% of those patients: 821 reported an improvement, or at least no worsening, in pain; 815 reported clitoral pleasure; and 431 experienced orgasms.

Although there was no control group, on the face of it it sounded positive. But in a follow-up letter to the Lancet, a heavyweight British team - consultants in the specialisms of gynaecology, obstetrics and psychology - took issue with the study.

"The claims are not anatomically possible," they wrote. "Where the body of the clitoris has been removed, the neurovascular bundle cannot be preserved… There is therefore no reality to the claim that surgery can excavate and expose buried tissue… The campaign against FGM could be undermined by a false proposition that the ill effects can be reversed."

Dr Barri is impatient with the critique.

"It's a matter of knowing what you're talking about," he says. "I've never seen any mutilated woman without remaining clitoris. Whenever we need to remove the whole clitoris - for example in the case of cancer - it's not an easy thing to do.

Normally the patients, at least the ones that survive the FGM, will always have a remaining clitoris. So they can always benefit from replacing it in the right place."

Two weeks after the operation, Wenkune is upset.

"I'm having a bad time because of the pain I'm in," she says. "It's like I'm reliving the moment they mutilated me."

Rosa is recovering faster. "I'm very well… At first it was a bit painful, but little by little, I'm getting better. I hope that in the UK, people will get to know that the best surgeon in the world is in Barcelona."

Four months later, Rosa is smiling and laughing as she talks about her sex life post-surgery.

"I haven't completely recovered sensation. But on Wednesday I had my first orgasm. It was much better than before! Now I feel like a woman."

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Read the rest of the article at the link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23287032


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Project Willow » 23 May 2013 10:34 wrote:After Dinner Party is in negotiations with a UK television production company to supply them with visual models of the clitoris. Cross your fingers, and stay tuned..


For those who don't know... I shipped my giant inflatable clitoris sculpture, and a selection of drawings to the production company for use in their documentary on female orgasm. The drawings were used on a set. No word yet as to what they've done with the inflatable. The documentary will appear on UK's Channel 4.
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