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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby 8bitagent » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:46 pm

Alchemy » Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:17 am wrote:I sure as hell hope Snowden does NOT go to Ecuador. Central and South America would seem to be the worst possible place for him, see the recent problems of John Mcafee in Belize for a great reason why. Law enforcement in these areas are very corrupt and easy to pay off, same goes for drug cartels and other gangs, they can easily be tempted to kidnap him and hold him for CIA ransom. Also, the State Dept and the CIA both have a long history of covert kidnappings in Ecuador specifically and of kidnapping journalists in that country even more specifically. Because it is so close to the states it is an easy private small jet ride there and back, very easy to kidnap someone in a covert op.

He is safest, IMO, in Russia, more than anywhere else in the world. While Russia is also likely crawling with CIA spooks, I think the Russians would be able to offer him much better protection and living arrangements than any of the Central or South American countries would be able to. I seriously fear for his life if he ends up anywhere in Latin America or outside of Russia in general. I am hoping that the whole trip to Ecuador from Moscow was just a red herring and he is in fact staying put in Russia for the time being. Putin doesnt give a fuck what we or Obama think about him and his country so there would be zero chance of him being handed over if he is in Putin's care. I cant say the same for many other countries, if any, especially those just South of our Border, while the leadership in those countries may have good intentions, there is just too much corruption and too much chance someone pays off LEO or cartel to have him kidnapped for pay. Of course that could happen in Russia also but its a little further and harder to fly in and out of Russia than it is anywhere in Central or South America.



Exactly. The CIA was flooding Black American streets with Nicuraguan cocaine and directly training and sponsoring genocidal death squads in the Americas not very long ago. Anything goes there.
I've spared no amount of typing to air my disliking of the Putin government and their crimes(along with Yeltsin) But on the Snowden issue, he's right as rain and it's enjoyable see him once again stick it to the Obama administration.

Does the Obama camp NOT realize their left base is heavily eroding? They're coming off like big brother, not the champions of "hope, change and transparency".
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby Lord Balto » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:50 pm

King Wombat said:

"Genius or spook, you make the call."

If he's a spook, he's one of the good guys, a distinction Webster Tarpley seems to be incapable of making from his academic ivory tower.
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby Lord Balto » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:00 pm

Excellent interview with Russ Tice, an earlier and fellow whistle blower at the NSA, on Boiling Frogs Post. "NSA is copying every phone call, word for word."

Washington Post contacted NSA BEFORE Snowden went public.

Feinstein had her phone tapped.
Hillary Clinton had her phone tapped.
Jackass McCain, who wants to hang the Snowman, had his phone tapped.

There is also an excellent interview by James Corbett of the Corbett Report with Sibel Edmonds, post Tice interview, responding to the scurrilous lies being told in the alternative media about Tice.
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby 8bitagent » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:11 am

Not going to lie, the thought of "this is too perfect" did cross my mind. Not saying I agree with the people who think Snowden is a planet or useful idiot...but much of what he is revealing isn't really
news at all. And it's just odd how he's this massive story dwarfing all other stories for the past two weeks.

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/19/here_co ... _truthers/
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby Hunter » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:01 am

Lord Balto » Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:00 pm wrote:Excellent interview with Russ Tice, an earlier and fellow whistle blower at the NSA, on Boiling Frogs Post. "NSA is copying every phone call, word for word."

Washington Post contacted NSA BEFORE Snowden went public.

Feinstein had her phone tapped.
Hillary Clinton had her phone tapped.
Jackass McCain, who wants to hang the Snowman, had his phone tapped.

There is also an excellent interview by James Corbett of the Corbett Report with Sibel Edmonds, post Tice interview, responding to the scurrilous lies being told in the alternative media about Tice.




I read somewhere cant remember where now, that there was speculation Justice John Roberts had his phone tapped and they had something to blackmail him with which caused him to vote for ObamaCare. i have no idea if that is true BUT THE IDEA that they can get the goods on elected leaders, judges, congressman and even the president and use those goods to get whatever they want out of them is probably not far from the truth.


Its kind of funny funny that Ron Paul took exit stage left and got out of politics right before all this shit hit, I wonder if they tapped his phone and had him by the balls for something.

You KNOW damn well McCain is compromised, he made a career being MAVERICK all those years and he REALLY WAS ONE, he is my senator he really wasnt bad before 2000 then something changed in him and he became a hard core war monger and now I cant even look at the guy he makes me sick, I think they have something on him and are making him toe the hard line because John McCain was NEVER A HARD LINER for his first 20 years or more in office, he was a pretty decent senator who did indeed Maverick his own party a lot of the time, but no more, he is done for now, he is probably the biggest war monger in govt now.
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:12 am

:D

Ecuador waives U.S. trade rights over Snowden case


QUITO | Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:45am EDT
(Reuters) - Ecuador said on Thursday it was waiving preferential rights under a U.S. trade agreement to demonstrate its principled approach to the asylum request of former American spy agency contractor Edward Snowden.

Officials in Quito added that the U.S. fugitive's case had still not been processed because he had not reached any of its diplomatic premises.

In a deliberately cheeky touch from the leftist government of President Rafael Correa, Ecuador also offered a multimillion donation for human rights training in the United States.

Snowden, 30, is believed to be at Moscow's international airport.

"The petitioner is not in Ecuadorean territory as the law requires," government official Betty Tola said at an early morning news conference in Ecuador.

Bristling at suggestions Quito was weighing the pros and cons of Snowden's case in terms of its own interests, officials also said Ecuador would not base its decision on its desire to renew the Andean Trade Preferences Act with Washington.

"Ecuador gives up, unilaterally and irrevocably, the said customs benefits," said another official, Fernando Alvarado.

"What's more, Ecuador offers the United States economic aid of $23 million annually, similar to what we received with the trade benefits, with the intention of providing education about human rights," Alvarado added.

"Ecuador does not accept pressure or threats from anyone, nor does it trade with principles or submit them to mercantile interests, however important those may be."
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:19 am

The Service of Snowden

Cristóbal Schmal
By ROGER COHEN
Published: June 27, 2013


LONDON — Edward J. Snowden, the whistleblower on global U.S. surveillance, has been called all kinds of things by members of Congress over the past couple of weeks — including a “defector” and a man guilty of “treason.” Federal prosecutors have prepared a sealed indictment against him.

At the same time, he has been lauded by Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, as a member of the “young, technically minded” generation “that Barack Obama betrayed.” Assange called President Obama the real “traitor.” Across the world, and in the United States itself, many people sympathize with Snowden. They see his leaks as a needed stand for individual freedom against the security-driven mass surveillance of a U.S. National Security Agency armed with the technology to gather and analyze the digital trails of our lives.

So what is Snowden? A self-aggrandizing geek who betrayed his country and his employer, Booz Allen Hamilton, exposed the United States to greater risk of terrorist attack, and may now — wittingly or unwittingly — have made his trove of secrets available to China and Russia, nations that are no longer enemies but are rival powers?

Or a brave young American determined to fight — at the risk of long imprisonment — against his country’s post-9/11 lurch toward invasion of citizens’ lives, ever more intrusive surveillance, undifferentiated data-hauling of the world’s digital exhaust fumes (for storage in a one-million-square-foot fortress in Utah), and the powers of a compliant secret court to issue warrants for international eavesdropping and e-mail vacuuming?

Snowden, apparently holed up in the transit area of Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport, has disappeared from view. Perhaps one way to assess what he has done is to imagine how things would stand if he had never existed. I am not big on counterfactuals — hypothetical history is at once tantalizing and meaningless — but in this case the exercise may be useful.

We would not know how the N.S.A., through its Prism and other programs, has become, in the words of my colleagues James Risen and Eric Lichtblau, “the virtual landlord of the digital assets of Americans and foreigners alike.” We would not know how it has been able to access the e-mails or Facebook accounts or videos of citizens across the world; nor how it has secretly acquired the phone records of millions of Americans; nor how through requests to the compliant and secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (F.I.S.A.) it has been able to bend nine U.S. Internet companies to its demands for access to clients’ digital information.

We would not be debating whether the United States really should have turned surveillance into big business, offering data-mining contracts to the likes of Booz Allen and, in the process, high-level security clearance to myriad folk who probably should not have it. We would not have a serious debate at last between Europeans, with their more stringent views on privacy, and Americans about where the proper balance between freedom and security lies.

We would not have legislation to bolster privacy safeguards and require more oversight introduced by Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee. Nor would we have a letter from two Democrats to the N.S.A. director, Gen. Keith B. Alexander, saying that a government fact sheet about surveillance abroad “contains an inaccurate statement” (and where does that assertion leave Alexander’s claims of the effectiveness and necessity of Prism?).

In short, a long-overdue debate about what the U.S. government does and does not do in the name of post-9/11 security — the standards applied in the F.I.S.A. court, the safeguards and oversight surrounding it and the Prism program, the protection of civil liberties against the devouring appetites of intelligence agencies armed with new data-crunching technology — would not have occurred, at least not now.

All this was needed because, since it was attacked in an unimaginable way, the United States has gone through a Great Disorientation. Institutions at the core of the checks and balances that frame American democracy and civil liberties failed. Congress gave a blank check to the president to wage war wherever and whenever he pleased. The press scarcely questioned the march to a war in Iraq begun under false pretenses. Guantánamo made a mockery of due process. The United States, in Obama’s own words, compromised its “basic values” as the president gained “unbound powers.” Snowden’s phrase, “turnkey tyranny,” was over the top but still troubling.

One of the most striking aspects of the Obama presidency has been the vast distance between his rhetoric on these issues since 2008 and any rectifying action. If anything he has doubled-down on security at the expense of Americans’ supposedly inalienable rights: Hence the importance of a whistleblower.

Snowden has broken the law of his country. We do not know what, if anything, he has offered China or Russia — or been coerced or tricked into handing over. He has, through his choice of destination, embraced states that suppress individual rights and use the Internet as an instrument of control and persecution. His movements have sent the wrong message.

Still, he has performed a critical service. History, the real sort, will judge him kindly.


Kristinn Hrafnsson: Several interviews given about the Snowden’s disclosure (links):

Posted by Irien / In Latest news, Whistle-blower issues, WikiLeaks / June 25, 2013
In the context of the Snowden’s case, WikiLeaks spokesperson, Mr Kristinn Hrafnsson gave several interviews. We link and summarize them here:



WikiLeaks, Assange, Snowden and all of us are winning:

This interview was given from Ecuador on Jun 23, 2013 to John Robles of RUVR (Voice of Russia).

Quote: “We have seen a continuous trend of leaks and whistleblowers stepping forth. And now of course Snowden is informing of the overreaching surveillance and spying of the NSA, which is a matter not just for the Americans but for the entire world. And more and more information is coming out on that. This is something that has been maintained of course by the WikiLeaks and by Julian for years. And it is confirming what other whistleblowers that have stepped forth earlier from the NSA and from the CIA”.

http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_06_23/WikiL ... sson-9756/ (transcript and audio file, part one)

Wikileaks: ‘History will judge Snowden as a hero’

Also on June 23, to BBC:

Edward Snowden, the former US intelligence contractor wanted by Washington on espionage charges, is spending the night at an airport in Moscow after arriving from Hong Kong.

Ecuador’s foreign minister has confirmed Mr Snowden’s request for asylum.

The Hong Kong authorities said they allowed him to leave because of a legal flaw in the American request to arrest him.

Wikileaks has made it clear that it has been helping Mr Snowden and its spokesman, Kristinn Hrafnsson, told the BBC he believed the fugitive would eventually be recognised as a hero.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23024525 (video)

WikiLeaks spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson speaks with ABC News Breakfast:

On June 24, (Australian Time) from New York

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-24/w ... th/4774888 (video/audio)
WikiLeaks on Snowden: Whereabouts secret, more leaks to come:

An interview with RT, published by RT on YouTube on June 25:

RT talks to WikiLeaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson about what awaits Snowden, and how the whistleblowing website is involved in his fate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP1FiyH ... ata_player (video)

Wikileaks take on MSM coverage of Snowden saga

Also by RT, on June 24

RT’s Anastasia Churkina sits down with Wikileaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson to talk about the mainstream media frenzy over Snowden and the NSA scandal, why their are focusing on flakey aspects of the story, and whether the PRISM revelation is a sign of more shocking details to come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Vsd8G ... ata_player (video)

Snowden remains in Russia after speculation of seeking asylum in Ecuador.

It was a participation to a panel in the program “Now with Alex Wagner” (MSNBC) on June 24:



NSA leaker Edward Snowden remains in Moscow after reports that said he would be travelling to Ecuador through Cuba. NOW guest host Joy-Ann Reid is joined by Politico’s Glenn Thrush, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes, Wiki-Leaks spokesperson Kristinn Hrafnsson, and Bloomberg News’ Margaret Talev for more.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/now-with-ale ... 4#52297164



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Ecuador Risks Trade Problems With U.S. if It Grants Asylum to Snowden

Meridith Kohut for The New York Times
Workers packaged roses on Tuesday at an industrial farm in Cayambe, Ecuador that supplies roses to Whole Foods stores in the United States. Analysts say that if the government of Ecuador grants asylum to Edward J. Snowden, trade between the two countries could be impacted.
By WILLIAM NEUMAN and MARK LANDLER
Published: June 25, 2013

QUITO, Ecuador — President Rafael Correa of Ecuador has more than just the ire of United States to consider as he weighs an asylum request from Edward J. Snowden, the fugitive intelligence contractor trying to dodge American authorities.
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Mr. Correa has some tangible factors to think about as well — namely Ecuadorean exports like fresh-cut roses and frozen broccoli.

In recent months, Mr. Correa’s government has been in Washington, lobbying to retain preferential treatment for some key Ecuadorean products. But that favored status, which means keeping thousands of jobs in Ecuador and cheaper goods for American consumers, could be among the first casualties if Mr. Correa grants asylum to Mr. Snowden.

While the downside for Ecuadorean rose growers, artichoke canners and tuna fishermen (whose products also get preferential treatment) is clear, the material benefits of granting asylum to Mr. Snowden are far less so. The decision could ultimately rest on the combative personality of Mr. Correa and his regional ambitions.

“The risks are enormous,” said Michael Shifter, president of the Inter-American Dialogue, a policy group in Washington. Referring to Mr. Correa, he said, “It would bring the United States down very hard on him.”

Mr. Correa, fresh off a landslide re-election victory, glories in a fight. He relishes tweaking the United States and may aspire to take on the mantle of leader of the Latin American left that was once worn by Hugo Chávez, the loudly anti-imperialist president of Venezuela, who died in March.

“Rhetorically, he aspires to be a leader, and this may be a situation that’s hard for him to resist just given his nature and his temperament,” Mr. Shifter said.

Relations with the United States have been rocky almost since Mr. Correa first took office in 2007. He stopped American antidrug flights from an Ecuadorean military base. In 2011, he kicked out the American ambassador, angered by a diplomatic cable revealed by WikiLeaks that suggested he was aware of police corruption and looked the other way.

Last year, he gave asylum in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London to the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, on the grounds that he risked persecution and possibly the death penalty if he were to be charged in the United States for revealing secret State Department cables and other materials.

The two countries exchanged ambassadors again last year, but things have not always gone smoothly for the new American envoy, Adam E. Namm.

Last month, Mr. Correa, who has warred continually with the news media in his country, reacted angrily after Mr. Namm attended an event in favor of freedom of expression that was organized by the National Journalists Union. Mr. Correa called Mr. Namm a meddler and warned him to behave. The foreign minister, Ricardo Patiño, said darkly that the next time he might get more than just a warning.

The last sustained high-level contact between the two countries may have come in 2010, when Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton visited Ecuador. During that visit, Mr. Correa told her, “We’re not anti-American; we love America,” and he described his years as a student at the University of Illinois as the happiest of his life.

But Mrs. Clinton pressed him on his government’s crackdown on the news media, and when an Ecuadorean journalist challenged him about his policies at a news conference, the president rebuked him while Mrs. Clinton watched stone-faced.

The most likely casualty of sheltering Mr. Snowden would be the trade preferences, which have been in place since the early 1990s. Originally designed for several Andean nations, Ecuador is the last remaining recipient. But the preferences, which applied to about $429 million in non-oil exports last year, expire at the end of July unless they are renewed by Congress.

That renewal was already in doubt, not least of all, officials said, because the oil giant Chevron has been lobbying hard against Ecuador. The campaign is part of Chevron’s response to an $18 billion penalty against the company ordered by an Ecuadorean court in a case over environmental damages related to oil drilling in the Amazon.

But Ecuador has begun its own campaign to keep the preferences, including a Web site called Keep Trade Going, that urges Americans to contact their legislators to ask them to vote in favor of the pact.

At the same time, Ecuador has staked out a fallback position, petitioning to include roses, frozen broccoli and canned artichokes in a separate trade program, the Generalized System of Preferences. That decision is controlled by the White House, so Ecuador is essentially asking President Obama’s help in getting around opposition in Congress.

Mr. Obama must decide by Monday whether he will include those items — a move that becomes increasingly thorny as the standoff over Mr. Snowden continues.

The question remains how heavily Mr. Correa will weigh such economic considerations

“It is something that will adversely affect the Ecuadorean economy,” said Dan Restrepo, an adviser to Mr. Obama on Latin American policy until last year. “But I don’t know whether it’s enough to stop him.”
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Analysts said that if Mr. Correa gives asylum to Mr. Snowden the United States could also try to isolate Ecuador politically, asking allies in the region to step up pressure on issues like press freedom. The same weekend that Mr. Snowden’s asylum request was made public, Mr. Correa signed a new media law that critics say would quash much critical coverage of the government.

But Orlando Pérez, the director of El Telégrafo, a government-owned newspaper, said that granting asylum to Mr. Snowden should not provoke a confrontation with the United States. “What is at play is to guarantee human rights,” he said. “Rather than hurt Ecuador it puts it in a kind of political vanguard in Latin America.”

Many in Latin America feel that the Obama administration has not made relations in the region a priority, and the episode may become another example of Washington’s waning influence.

The standoff last year over Mr. Assange, who took refuge in Ecuador’s embassy in London to escape being sent to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning on allegations he sexually assaulted two women, gave Mr. Correa a chance to portray himself as the defiant leader of a tiny country standing up to a world power. Mr. Snowden’s request allows him to do the same again.

Both cases also helped Mr. Correa defend himself against charges that he is too harsh with the press, allowing him to portray himself as a champion of transparency.

Mauricio Gándara, a former ambassador to London who is critical of Mr. Correa, said the president aspired to become an admired Latin American leftist like Mr. Chávez or Fidel Castro.

“How much damage it does to Ecuador is another matter,” Mr. Gándara said. “They want to go beyond Chávez, they want to challenge the world.”

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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:01 am

:P
Frank Rich Thinks David Gregory Should Be Relegated To The ‘Today’ Show

TOM KLUDT 1:34 PM EDT, WEDNESDAY JUNE 26, 2013


New York Magazine's Frank Rich on Wednesday pondered the journalistic chops of "Meet the Press" host David Gregory.

Gregory has taken heat for aggressively asking The Guardian's Glenn Greenwald whether he should be charged with a crime for reporting on the National Security Agency's top secret surveillance programs.

In response, Rich — participating in a weekly Q&A segment on NY Mag's website — wondered if Gregory is a journalist.

"Is David Gregory a journalist? As a thought experiment, name one piece of news he has broken, one beat he’s covered with distinction, and any memorable interviews he’s conducted that were not with John McCain, Lindsey Graham, Dick Durbin, or Chuck Schumer," Rich said, adding that Greenwald "demolished Gregory."

The former New York Times columnist went on to suggest that Gregory likely would have assailed Daniel Ellsberg for leaking the Pentagon Papers about 40 years ago.

"The new, incoming leadership of NBC News has a golden opportunity to revamp Sunday morning chat by making a change at Meet the Press," Rich said. "I propose that Gregory be full-time on Today, where he can speak truth to power by grilling Paula Deen."
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby beeline » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:16 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/27/us-usa-security-ecuador-idUSBRE95Q0L820130627

Ecuador offers U.S. rights aid, waives trade benefits


Reuters - Ecuador's leftist government thumbed its nose at Washington on Thursday by renouncing U.S. trade benefits and offering to pay for human rights training in America in response to pressure over asylum for former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden.

The angry response threatens a showdown between the two nations over Snowden, and may burnish President Rafael Correa's credentials to be the continent's principal challenger of U.S. power after the death of Venezuelan socialist leader Hugo Chavez.

"Ecuador will not accept pressures or threats from anyone, and it does not traffic in its values or allow them to be subjugated to mercantile interests," government spokesman Fernando Alvarado said at a news conference.

In a cheeky jab at the U.S. spying program that Snowden unveiled through leaks to the media, the South American nation offered $23 million per year to finance human rights training.

The funding would be destined to help "avoid violations of privacy, torture and other actions that are denigrating to humanity," Alvarado said. He said the amount was the equivalent of what Ecuador gained each year from the trade benefits.

"Ecuador gives up, unilaterally and irrevocably, the said customs benefits," he said.

An influential U.S. senator on Wednesday said he would seek to end those benefits if Ecuador gave Snowden asylum.

Snowden, 30, is believed to be at Moscow's international airport and seeking safe passage to Ecuador.

The Andean nation's government denies reports that it provided a travel document to the former National Security Agency contractor, whose U.S. passport has been revoked.

The government has not been able to process his asylum request because he is not on Ecuadorean territory, another government official said.

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Never shy of taking on the West, the pugnacious Correa last year granted asylum to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to help him avoid extradition from Great Britain to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning over sexual assault accusations.

The 50-year-old U.S.-trained economist won a landslide re-election in February on generous state spending to improve infrastructure and health services, and his Alianza Pais party holds a majority in the legislature.

Ecuadorean officials said Washington was unfairly using the Andean Trade Promotion and Drug Eradication Act, which provides customs benefits in exchange for efforts to fight the drug trade, as a political weapon.

The program was set to expire at the end of this month.

An OPEC nation of 15 million people, Ecuador exported $5.4 billion worth of oil, $166 million of cut flowers, $122 million of fruits and vegetables and $80 million of tuna to the United States under the Andean trade program in 2012.

Termination of the benefits could hurt the cut flower industry, which has blossomed under the program and employs more than 100,000 workers, many of them women.

Critics of Correa say Ecuador's embrace of Assange - and now possibly Snowden - is hypocritical given what they say is his authoritarian style and suppression of media at home.

Supporters of Correa say he has simply taken on media and business elites who were trying to erode what the president calls his "Citizens' Revolution."
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby Grizzly » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:44 pm

Segue: http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21580163-mysterious-facebook-character-predicting-murder-and-mayhem-spirit/print

A mysterious Facebook character from Zimbabwe steals secrets from the ruling party every day and shames politicians for alleged corruption and brutality, often including their mobile-phone numbers with instructions to call and demand answers


Could this be the NEW Model emerging? :shrug: :fawked: :evilgrin

Further, What if Snowden Still has realtime access to NSA MAINFRAMES? What is the possibility that ALL of this is a psyop?
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:11 pm

Restricted web access to The Guardian is Armywide, officials say

By PHILLIP MOLNAR
Herald Staff Writer

The Army admitted Thursday to not only restricting access to The Guardian news website at the Presidio of Monterey, as reported in Thursday's Herald, but Armywide.

Presidio employees said the site had been blocked since The Guardian broke several stories on data collection by the National Security Agency.

Gordon Van Vleet, an Arizona-based spokesman for the Army Network Enterprise Technology Command, or NETCOM, said in an email the Army is filtering "some access to press coverage and online content about the NSA leaks."

He wrote it is routine for the Department of Defense to take preventative "network hygiene" measures to mitigate unauthorized disclosures of classified information.

"We make every effort to balance the need to preserve information access with operational security," he wrote, "however there are strict policies and directives in place regarding protecting and handling classified information."

In a later phone call, Van Vleet said the filter of classified information on public websites was "Armywide" and did not originate at the Presidio.

Presidio employees described how they could access the U.S. site, www.guardiannews.com, but were blocked from articles, such as those on the NSA, that redirected to the British site.

According to sources at the Presidio, Jose Campos, the post's information assurance security officer, sent an email to employees Thursday morning saying The Guardian's website

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NETCOM is a subordinate to the Army Cyber Command, based in Fort Belvoir, Va., according to its website.

Campos wrote if an employee were to accidently download classified information it would result in "labor intensive" work, such as the wipe or destruction of the computer's hard drive.

He wrote that an employee who downloads classified information could face disciplinary action if found to have knowingly downloaded the material on an unclassified computer.

The Guardian's website has classified documents on the NSA's program of monitoring the phone records of Verizon customers, a project called Prism which gave the agency "direct access" to data held by Google, Facebook, Apple and others, and more.

The source of the leaks, 29-year-old Edward Snowden, is on the run from American authorities. He is a former contractor for the agency.

Van Vleet said the department does not determine what sites its personnel can choose to visit on the DOD system but "relies on automated filters that restrict access based on content concerns or malware threats."

He added that it would not block "websites from the American public in general, and to do so would violate our highest-held principle of upholding and defending the Constitution and respecting civil liberties and privacy."

The Guardian declined to comment but its editor-in-chief, Alan Rusbridger, sent a link to The Herald's story on Twitter
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:15 pm

Latest Glenn Greenwald Scoop Vindicates One Of The Original NSA Whistleblowers
MICHAEL KELLEY JUN. 27, 2013, 3:00 PM

William Binney — one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in National Security Agency (NSA) history — worked for America's premier covert intelligence gathering organization for 32 years before resigning in late 2001 because he "could not stay after the NSA began purposefully violating the Constitution."

Binney claims that the NSA took one of the programs he built, known as ThinThread, and started using the program and members of his team to spy on virtually every U.S. citizen under the code-name Stellar Wind.
Thanks to NSA whistleblower/leaker Edward Snowden, documents detailing the top-secret surveillance program have now been published for the first time.

And they corroborate what Binney has said for years.

From Glenn Greenwald and Spencer Ackerman of The Guardian:

The collection of email metadata on Americans began in late 2001, under a top-secret NSA program started shortly after 9/11, according to the documents. Known as Stellar Wind, the program initially did not rely on the authority of any court – and initially restricted the NSA from analyzing records of emails between communicants wholly inside the US.

However, the NSA subsequently gained authority to "analyze communications metadata associated with United States persons and persons believed to be in the United States," according to a secret Justice Department memo from 2007 that was obtained by the Guardian.

Binney explains that how ThinThread was built to track electronic activities — phone calls, emails, banking and travel records, social media , etc. — and map them to collect "all the attributes that any individual has" in every type of activity and build a real-time profile based on that data.

"So that now I can pull your entire life together from all those domains and map it out and show your entire life over time," Binney told documentarian Laura Poitras in "The Program" (emphasis ours). Binney added that the purpose of the program is "to be able to monitor what people are doing" and who they are doing it with.

Greenwald and Ackerman, citing the NSA documents, describe how mining metadata from U.S. phone calls and especially Internet communications, which continues to this day, allows the NSA to performs "contact chaining" by which the agency can "analyzed networks with two degrees of separation (two hops) from [a] target."

From The Guardian (emphasis ours):

"The calls you make can reveal a lot, but now that so much of our lives are mediated by the internet, your IP [internet protocol] logs are really a real-time map of your brain: what are you reading about, what are you curious about, what personal ad are you responding to (with a dedicated email linked to that specific ad), what online discussions are you participating in, and how often?" said Julian Sanchez of the Cato Institute.

"Seeing your IP logs – and especially feeding them through sophisticated analytic tools – is a way of getting inside your head that's in many ways on par with reading your diary," Sanchez added.

On July 2 Binney, along with two other former NSA employees, agreed to provide evidence in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's lawsuit (Jewel vs. NSA) that alleges the U.S. government operates an illegal mass surveillance program.

Given the latest leaks, that testimony looks rock solid.

And Greenwald and Ackerman report that the NSA's Special Source Operations (SSO) directorate have "ongoing plans to expand metadata collection."

“I should apologize to the American people,” Binney told Jane Mayer of The New Yorker. “It’s violated everyone’s rights. It can be used to eavesdrop on the whole world.”
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:19 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interac ... collection
NSA inspector general report on email and internet data collection under Stellar Wind – full document
Top-secret draft report from 2009 by the NSA's inspector general shows development of 'collection of bulk internet metadata' under program launched under Bush

• NSA collected US email records in bulk for more than two years under Obama

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/27/nsa-data-mining-authorised-obama


NSA collected US email records in bulk for more than two years under Obama
• Secret program launched by Bush continued 'until 2011'
• Fisa court renewed collection order every 90 days
• Current NSA programs still mine US internet metadata
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:26 pm

Government Officials Use The Media To Anonymously Make Case Against Edward Snowden
Posted: 06/27/2013 4:05 pm EDT | Updated: 06/27/2013 4:43 pm EDT

NEW YORK –- In April 2011, the Associated Press reported that U.S. airstrikes in Yemen 15 months earlier had forced al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula to reconsider how it communicates.

Following deadly strikes, the militant Islamist group had realized it was “up against the National Security Agency and the Predator drones that can hover out of sight and intercept phone calls,” Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman wrote. AQAP members, they reported, had increasingly started using walkie talkies and code names, passing information through intermediaries, and shielding email with “highly sophisticated encryption software.”

That 2011 article received renewed attention on Twitter this week amid a slew of national media reports citing anonymous government officials' claims that terrorists have changed their methods of communication following recent NSA leaks. Those reports have coincided with anonymous officials speculating to several major news outlets that Chinese and Russian authorities have likely seized leaked NSA documents or will do so in the near future.

Both scenarios help bolster the government's argument that NSA contractor-turned-fugitive Edward Snowden jeopardized national security by leaking classified documents to The Guardian and The Washington Post. Such coverage, based on claims by anonymous officials, also portrays Snowden as more traitor than whistleblower.

It's no surprise the Obama administration, like all administrations, would leak claims that are advantageous. And reporters covering national security and intelligence routinely need to provide anonymity in order to gain a window into the government. But reporters also need to scrutinize claims that officials are only willing to make anonymously about national security, especially at a moment when they clearly bolster the government’s case against the 30-year-old fugitive being tried in the court of public opinion.

In some recent instances, officials have been quoted making what amount to educated guesses about what Chinese and Russian authorities may have done. In others cases, officials have made claims about changing communication patterns while simultaneously declining to provide details on national security grounds.

“Yes, terrorists change tactics,” Apuzzo tweeted Wednesday, along with his April 2011 story. “But I'd like some evidence that Snowden was revelatory to AQ.”

CHANGING TACTICS?

Anonymous officials this week have told several news organizations -– often using nearly identical language -- that the NSA leaks had prompted members of terrorist groups to change the way they communicate.

A “senior intelligence official” to ABC News on Monday:

“The intelligence community is already seeing indications that several terrorist groups are in fact attempting to change their communication behaviors based on what they’re reading about our surveillance programs in the media.”
A "senior intelligence official" to the Washington Post on Monday:

Already, several terrorist groups in various regions of the world have begun to change their method of communication based on disclosures of surveillance programs in the media, the official said. He would not elaborate on the communication modes.
A "US intelligence official” to CNN on Tuesday:

“We can confirm we are seeing indications that several terrorist groups are in fact attempting to change their communications behaviors based specifically on what they are reading about our surveillance programs in the media.”
Two “US national security sources” to Reuters on Tuesday:

Intelligence agencies have detected that members of targeted militant organizations, including both Sunni and Shi'ite Islamist groups, have begun altering communications patterns in what was believed to be a direct response to details on eavesdropping leaked by the former U.S. spy agency contractor, two U.S. national security sources said.
Two “U.S. intelligence officials” to the AP on Wednesday:

Two U.S. intelligence officials say members of virtually every terrorist group, including core al-Qaida members, are attempting to change how they communicate, based on what they are reading in the media, to hide from U.S. surveillance.
The AP's Kimberly Dozier noted one specific example of how terrorists may have changed tactics -- they may no longer consider Skype to be a secure platform.

But for the most part, Dozier acknowledged that "officials wouldn't go into details on how they know this, whether it's terrorists switching email accounts or cellphone providers or adopting new encryption techniques."

A situation in which officials will anonymously say something is happening but cannot, or will not, provide evidence forces journalists to violate an unofficial rule: show, don't tell.

The Guardian’s Glenn Greenwald, the civil liberties columnist who broke several NSA surveillance stories based on documents provided by Snowden, harshly criticized CNN's report on changing tactics as "mindless, government-subservient stenographic journalism."

BELIEVING WITHOUT SEEING

Reports about what Snowden did, or didn't do, since leaving the U.S. have similarly been filled with anonymous sources suggesting worst case scenarios. This week, some have provided little more than assumptions and educated guesses that the Chinese and Russians must have seized a large cache of NSA documents.

CNN's Barbara Starr wrote Tuesday that “one assumption is underpinning the US analysis: The belief that China copied and read whatever documents he had in Hong Kong.”

"Given his stay in Hong Kong and the number of days he was there, the assumption has to be everything he had was compromised," an anonymous official told Starr. The same official, she wrote, also “didn't dismiss the notion that Russia may have done the same thing."

Similarly, The Washington Post reported Monday that “U.S. officials said their assumption is that China and Russia have copied the materials that Snowden took from classified U.S. networks but that they had no way to confirm those countries had done so.”

“That stuff is gone,” a former senior U.S. intelligence official who served in Russia told the Post. “I guarantee the Chinese intelligence service got their hands on that right away. If they imaged the hard drives and then returned them to him, well, then the Russians have that stuff now.”

The New York Times also suggested Monday that China had likely obtained the documents based on what two anonymous experts believed to have happened.

“Two Western intelligence experts, who worked for major government spy agencies, said they believed that the Chinese government had managed to drain the contents of the four laptops that Mr. Snowden said he brought to Hong Kong, and that he said were with him during his stay at a Hong Kong hotel,” The Times reported.

And on Wednesday evening, anonymous officials suggested to the Wall Street Journal that Snowden doesn't understand the documents he obtained, while speculating that Russian authorities would if they had the opportunity to read them. "I'm sure the Russians have people who can make sense of it all, given the chance" the U.S. official told the Journal.

It's possible that officials may be proven correct, and that the leaked NSA documents did fall into the hands of foreign governments. But while Snowden provided details of U.S. spying on China and Hong Kong to the South China Morning Post, there's no evidence he has willingly or unwillingly provided all the documents obtained to the Chinese and Russians.

And yet despite the lack of direct evidence, anonymous government claims have carried significant weight in the media this week, influencing the cable news debate and helping to try Snowden in public, long before any actual trial on charges of espionage takes place.
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Re: Edward Snowden, American Hero

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:24 am

Edward Snowden In 2009: Leakers Should Be 'Shot In The Balls'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/2 ... 04746.html

NSA leaker Edward Snowden despised classified leaks in 2009, illustrating that the former Booz Allen Hamilton employee was not always the champion of transparency that he has become.

The technology website ArsTechnica published IRC chats where he railed against a New York Times story about the U.S. rejecting an Israeli request for aid to attack an Iranian nuclear site and the United States' covert efforts to sabotage Iran's nuclear program.

"Are they TRYING to start a war? Jesus christ. they're like wikileaks," he said in the chat.

"they're just reporting, dude," said another user.

"moreover, who the fuck are the anonymous sources telling them this?" he said. "those people should be shot in the balls."

Snowden's views have evolved since the exchange. He has praised leakers like Bradley Manning, Bill Binney, Thomas Drake and John Kiriakou. Wikileaks has been paying for his lodging, flights and legal counsel since he left Hong Kong this weekend on an Aeroflot flight bound for Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin said Snowden is in the transit area of Moscow's Sheremeteyvo Airport, but he has not been seen.

Snowden, in the chat, also criticized reporting on classified information.

"is it unethical to report on the government's intrigue?" asked a user in the chat.

"VIOLATING NATIONAL SECURITY? no." he responded.

"meh. national security." responded the user.

"Um, YEEEEEEEEEEEES.that shit is classified for a reason," he said. "it's not because "oh we hope our citizens don't find out. it's because "this shit won't work if iran knows what we're doing."

"I am so angry right now. This is completely unbelievable," he said.

Snowden's disclosures of the National Security Agency's phone and internet spying programs have been criticized for the very same reason -- that they violate national security.

"Remember, these were counterterrorism programs, essentially, and we have seen that bad guys overseas, terrorists who are committing and plotting attacks on the United States and our allies, have changed the way they operate," Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said on Sunday. "We’ve already seen that. To say that that is not harmful to the national security of the United States or our safety is just dead wrong."

Snowden told The Guardian that with every document, he debated whether leaking it to the paper was in the public's interest.


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