2012

by **yorketown** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:50 pm

9/11 3/11 12/11 12/11 10/12 12/21/12 7/7 to protect

by **nomo** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:01 pm

My math/numerology/kaballah has never been all that great. Care to elaborate on the above sequence?

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:23 pm

I got an email yesterday about my recent posts from Daniel Pinchbeck, author of Breaking Open the Head. He has a new book due out in a few months entitled 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl. He said he thinks "it is about ten steps beyond Breaking Open the Head, and has prophetic dimensions that are going to be difficult for some people to integrate or accept."

by **seemslikeadream** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:33 pm

<img src="http://www.imagesofanthropology.com/images/c.facade_Pyramid_of_Quetzalcoatl_Teotihuacan_Mexico.jpg" style="border:0;"/>

by **nomo** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:43 pm

I'm aware of the Mayan calendar's end date, but I was trying to figure out what the other dates are supposed to stand for. 9/11 Attacks on America 3/11 Madrid Bombings 12/11 Blast at the Hertfordshire oil depot? 12/11 Uh, Hertfordshire again? 10/12 Bali bombing 12/21/12 Mayan end date, according to some, but how does that follow from the above? 7/7 to protect London Bombings, "to protect"... what? I just don't see the relationship, or the significance even, in these dates. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/indifferent.gif ALT=":|">

by **jingofever** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:04 pm

I think the 9/11, 3/11, 12/11 connection is 9+3=12, and then tag on the 11. Not sure why it is not added to equal 22. Seems arbitrary to me. And then 12/11 - from that above bit 10/12 - for the Bali bombing put in zeros for place holders, which screw up the dates 12/11/00 + 00/10/12 ----------- 12/21/12 and then 7/7 to protect

by **slimmouse** » Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:29 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>He said he thinks "it is about ten steps beyond Breaking Open the Head, and has prophetic dimensions that are going to be difficult for some people to integrate or accept."<hr></blockquote> Cant say as Ive heard of the above author. His stuff worth looking over ?

by **Cosmic Cowbell** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:40 am

Easily done... <a href="http://www.breakingopenthehead.com/">"Breaking Open The Head"</a> I'm already jazzed. ~C

by **Rigorous Intuition** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:59 am

His stuff worth looking over ? I think so. Breaking Open the Head's interesting as simple social anthropology, but it's also a reasonable study of the possibility of shamanic gateways and a holographic universe.

by **slimmouse** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:20 pm

Thanks enormously for the link CC, and Jeff for the reccomendation. Humour and synchronicity. Humour. Gotta love the description of Ayahuasca coined in there ; The Indians had told him that ayahuasca was the source of their plant knowledge. They called it "forest television." Synchronicity. I was literally having a discussion with a friend of mine the other day, regarding our origins. I was attempting to explain, how Id read somewhere ( why do I NEVER archive sufficient links sigh ) that the theory of evolution has been completely thrown into the realms of total fiction by the findings of DNA chemistry. Within this article, I then read this ; As Stanislav Grof, pioneering LSD psychoanalyst wrote, "The probability that human intelligence developed all the way from the chemical ooze of the primeval ocean solely through random sequences of random mechanical processes has been aptly compared to the probability of a tornado blowing through a gigantic junkyard and assembling by accident a 747 jumbo jet."  When my friend asked me my thoughts, I suggested Alien seeding and genetic engineering, which is hardly a concrete alternative, but didnt some philosopher or other once say that once all other options have been logically eliminated, then that which remains, however preposterous it may appear, must be true ? And a final fascinating quote; Recently, Narby brought three European molecular biologists down to visit an Amazonian shaman. During their trances, they attempted to ask direct questions of the ayahuasca spirit relating to their areas of research. All received answers to their queries. For example, one genetic researcher found herself transformed into a protein flying above a long DNA strand, and was able in this way to understand the meaning of certain patterns in what had previously been considered "junk DNA": She saw DNA sequences known as "CpG islands," which she had been puzzling over at work, and which are found upstream of about sixty percent of all human genes. She saw they were structurally different from the surrounding DNA and that this structural difference allowed them to be easily accessed and therefore to serve as "landing pads" for transcription proteins, which dock on to the DNA molecule and make copies of precise genetic structures. All of the biologists were intrigued by what they found, and two of the three felt they had communicated with an "independent intelligence." When Dennis McKenna, Terence's botanist brother, drank ayahuasca with the Uniao do Vegetal, a Brazilian syncretic religion that uses ayahuasca as its sacrament, he was turned into a sentient water molecule in the jungle soil, pulled up through a vine's roots to experience the miraculous molecular processes of photosynthesis in its leaves. "Somehow I understood - though no words were involved - that the Banisteriopsis vine was the embodiment of the plant intelligence that embraced and covered the earth," he recalled. At the end of his vision, a voice told him, "You monkeys only think you're running things." Thanks again.

by **resonantmonkey** » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:40 pm

Check out this site for ayahuasca experiences, I am not sure if y'all are aware of it. It's also got a ton of info on all sorts of "door smashers". www.erowid.org edited to make it right. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=resonantmonkey>resonantmonkey</A> at: 2/2/06 12:04 pm

by **Cosmic Cowbell** » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:40 am

My pleasure Slim... Not to go far off track, but I just wanted to comment on the quotes and hypothesis put forth by Slimouse as to possible genetic modification by "others". I find the work of Richard Klein at Stanford highly pertinent to this suggestion. He posits that a sudden genetic modification of the <a href="http://www.wellcome.ac.uk/en/genome/genesandbody/hg05f004.html">Foxp2</a> gene around 40 to 50K years ago led to a rapid evolution of what we consider today, the Human mind. I will let the doctor speak for himself. Genetics may help solve mysteries of human evolution, anthropologist says BY BRONWYN BARNETT "By 100,000 years ago, Homo sapiens had evolved on the continent of Africa. For 50,000 years, they were confined there, and they behaved just like H. neanderthalensis then inhabiting parts of Europe and H. erectus living in Asia. Then their behavior changed dramatically -- and anthropologists aren't entirely certain what happened. Today, breakthroughs in genetics may provide anthropologists with valuable insight into what happened all those years ago and why. Richard Klein, a professor of anthropological sciences at Stanford, has an explanation, albeit a controversial one: "I think there was a biological change -- a genetic mutation of some kind that promoted the fully modern ability to create and innovate." Klein will present his perspective Feb. 15 at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Denver. His comments are part of the symposium "Revolution and Evolution in Modern Human Origins: When, Where and Why?" which also will include talks by Alison S. Brooks (George Washington University and the Smithsonian Institution), Terrence Deacon (University of California-Berkeley), Francesco D'Errico, (Institut de Préhistoire, Université de Bordeaux), Richard Potts (Smithsonian Institution), Mary Stiner (University of Arizona) and Wentzel van Huyssteen (Princeton Theological Seminary). For the past 35 years, Klein has traveled to South Africa at least once a year to study the change that spurred human creativity. "When you look at the archaeological record before 50,000 years ago, it's remarkably homogeneous," he says. "There are no geographically delineated groups of artifacts." Artifacts made by modern humans of that era in Africa closely resemble those found in France, made by Neanderthals. Then something happened. "Suddenly, modern-looking people began to behave in a modern way, in producing art and jewelry and doing a whole variety of other things that they hadn't done before," he said. Over the next 10,000 years, these behaviorally modern humans arrived in Western Asia, Eastern Europe and finally Western Europe, and displaced the Neanderthals as they went. "Suddenly you see geographically and chronologically restricted groups of artifacts with a lot of style involved in the manufacturing, and the geographic distribution is very limited," he said. Anthropologists believe these differentiated remains indicate the presence of different ethnic groups. Why did people suddenly begin to behave in a more modern fashion? This question has been a source of discord among many anthropologists. Some think people's behavior changed gradually. Klein thinks they're wrong. Klein holds a minority opinion among anthropologists, most of whom believe the change to modern behavior was the result of "some kind of cultural or demographic change," he said. Many of his opponents believe a population buildup could have caused the change, but Klein sees no evidence for this theory. But new breakthroughs in the field of genetics may lend Klein's view convincing support. Genes interact with environment to influence appearance, behavior and mental faculties. By isolating a gene and finding out when it evolved, scientists can obtain clues that help them figure out when humans developed certain skills, and possibly what triggered a change in behavior. Every generation of humans produces new mutations, or variants, among genes. The longer a gene has existed, the more variants of that gene tend be found in today's population. By isolating a gene and measuring the amount of current variation, and estimating the rate at which the mutations have occurred, geneticists can give anthropologists rough estimates of when that particular gene evolved. Geneticists have done this with the foxp2 gene, which is involved in human speech and language. The dating indicates that this gene evolved "sometime between last Tuesday and 200,000 years ago," Klein said. He believes this estimate is extremely conservative, and that the gene evolved closer to 50,000 years ago -- a date that would support a biological cause for the change in behavior that anthropologists observe. "There may be other genes that we can identify that all changed in some way around 50,000 years ago. They would have to be genes involved in cognition or communication. If you can show that, then my idea would be, I think, widely accepted." What about fossils? Do they reveal evidence of a biological change? "Not really," Klein says. "There's nothing about the outside of the skull, or even the inside, that tells you very much about how a brain functioned." He hopes the genes will prove to be a valuable supplement to a fragmented fossil record. In recent years, scientists have developed increasingly efficient ways to isolate and accurately date genes. Technological advances have allowed them to analyze vast amounts of genetic data in ever-shorter periods of time. "I'm very excited about this gene work," said Klein. "The technology is just amazing." But the sea of available genetic data is huge. "There's an enormous amount of work to be done on this," he says. He admits that anthropologists may never be completely sure what happened 50,000 years ago. "It's kind of like the criminal justice system," he says. "It's never 100 percent. ... There are always some ambiguities, some contradiction in the evidence, even when eyewitness accounts are available. And the fact is, of course, that the jury themselves cannot be eyewitnesses," he says. "Unless we get a time machine or eyewitnesses, there will always be some uncertainty about what happened in prehistory." <a href="http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2003/february26/aaasklein-226.html">news-service.stanford.edu/news/2003/february26/aaasklein-226.html</a> I am fascinated by the connection of DMT experiences and visions of "Machine Elves", Mantid Aliens and Flying Saucers. I find little difference between the descriptions given by some 'abductees' and the attitudes of these DMT entities. These visions are practically universal in nature when 'communing' and I have wondered at the hypothesis that if indeed, a modification of our DNA was by their hand, leading to the path we have taken these past 40 thousand years, is it possible that they might have coded some kind of 'experience' into the strands as well, to be triggered by an excess of the chemical substance our own bodies produce. This also begs the question "What responsibility might an extraterrestrial civilization bear if they genetically tamper with an indigenous population in a way that eventually leads them to drop nuclear weapons upon one another". Just way out thinking but thought I'd offer it up for what it's worth. ~Cowbell

by **ivanbo2003** » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:05 am

<a href="http://fusionanomaly.net/cosmicserpent.html">fusionanomaly.net/cosmicserpent.html</a>

by **ivanbo2003** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:55 pm

<a href="http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/singleeyepineal.htm#SHAMANS">www.hiddenmeanings.com/si...tm#SHAMANS</a> It covers info from the book written by Jimmy Weiskopf. I dunno if this link belongs to this thread,but i posted it here because Jeff mentioned shamans and their pharmaceutical knowledge. <blockquote>Quote:<hr>This information comes from a piece called From Agony to Ecstasy written by Jimmy Weiskopf. For centuries, the indigenous people of the Amazon River basin have used a magical healing sacrament known as yaje-or ayahuasca. Once again the reference to what Jeremy Narby found to be the element that allows Shamans to have pharmaceutical knowledge. But when you connect the ancient concentration on the single eye which includes Jesus and the Bible and you then see the reason why Shamans use ayahuasca you find a connection since the Pineal Gland or Single eye secretes Dimethyltryptamine which is the main component of ayahuasca. We have Jesus saying if your eye be single your body will fill with light. We find that this substance ayahuasca has as its main element the substance dimethyltryptamine which is secreted by the single eye or the pineal gland of the brain. Then why do the Shamans use this ? AYAHUASCA For centuries, the indigenous people of the Amazon River basin have used a magical healing sacrament known as yaje-or ayahuasca, as it is called in the Quechua tongue--in order to see into the spirit world. Here we get more detail on their reasons for its use. Ayahuasca has also been used by Native shamans and curanderos (healers) to identify the hidden spiritual causes of illnesses and to treat the source of illness through direct intervention. Interesting that they look for spiritual causes of illnesses. In other words what is going on inside of the mind or personality that has caused or contributed to the disease. Jimmy Weiskopf is not unlike Jeremy Narby in his interests to find out what was going on with the Amazon Shamans. He says An army of anthropologists, ethnobotanists, intrepid intellectuals, and spiritual explorers have been trotting off into remote jungles in search of traditional healing knowledge. This is quite consistent with what Jeremy Narby says. And it is true, representatives of large pharmaceutical firms go to the Amazon Jungle to see what is the latest discovery. And I remind you that the latest discoveries have a connection in origin to the single eye of Jesus which is the Pineal Gland of your brain. So Jimmy Weiskopf like Jeremy Narby went to the Amazon and also as did Narby, took Ayahuasca. I will start by saying that Ayahuasca is a truly remarkable psychoactive vine. After taking the drink many times, I fully agree with those Natives who say Ayahuasca is a living presence with a remarkably strong and vivid personality. It is not unusual for the spirit of the vine to appear in one's visions and announce that it is a direct channel to a superior being-- God, Nature, Spirit. I call your attention to this because this substance which has a human origin in the Pineal Gland or Single eye is the subject of Jesus statement that you will fill with light if you activate the Single Eye, and Jacob seeing God face to face calls the place Pineal. Rene DesCartes calls the Pineal Gland which secretes the main component in Ayahuasca the seat of the soul. Now Weiskopf makes a statement that we need to study because it brings us to our thoughts relative to the Pineal and Biblical statements that we have covered. While Ayahuasca may resemble some psychedelics in inducing dramatic visual patterns and dreamlike images, I have come to the conclusion that the most significant Ayahuasca visions are not solely biochemically induced. Instead, I suggest that Ayahuasca removes the physical and emotional blocks which keep us from seeing the spirit world around us. In fact, once or twice-during those half-conscious, hypnagogic states that precede sleep-I have had brief Ayahuasca like visions that were not Ayahuasca induced. These spontaneous experiences--and the fact that some disciplined yogis and gifted psychics seem to have regular access to the spirit world--suggest to me that it may be possible to see visions without Ayahuasca. Notice that, the most significant visions are not biochemically induced and it may be possible to see visions without Ayahuasca. The point here is that the visions would be with Ayahuasca but Ayahuasca that is secreted normally through the Single eye or Pineal Gland of the brain. Not with ingesting anything but through meditation. Because as we know now, the component of Ayahuasca necessary to see what we call the spiritual world comes from the single eye or Pineal. As Jacob said, I have seen God face to face and I will call this place Peniel. Jimmy Weiskopf goes on to make an interesting statement about such visions. The question is, how does purifying the body help us attain ecstatic states? Over the years, I have noticed that the people who have the most difficulty achieving ecstatic states usually suffer from hyperactive minds. Based on my experiences with Ayahuasca, I am convinced that much of their mental restlessness is a direct by-product of physical pollution due to chemical additives, too much food, and environmental contaminants. Once our bodies are purged of this excess garbage--through fasting, meditation, or purgatives-our hyperactive minds become calmer and clearer, al- lowing us to see, or at least sense, the spirit energy behind physical forms. Now we are starting to close in relative to comments from one who has gone to the Amazon and taken Ayahuasca. Who states that in his opinion it is possible to see the other side without ingesting the substance. Combine this with the studies we have done over the years as well as recently that tell us that the Single Eye or Pineal Gland of the brain which secretes an Ayahuasca element is the contact point to God. Now what does the Shaman say. Here is a quote from a Shaman called Don Pacho. DON PACHO "When I am drunk with ayahuasca," he explains with conviction and sincerity, "I fly up to the Milky Way and converse with the spirits, and they tell me how to cure. Sometimes, in these visions, they show me a certain plant and the next day I go into the forest to find that plant and with it I heal the sick person." People can say he’s high and this is nuts but keep in mind that these strange people have been proven to have pharmaceutical knowledge that they say is given to them by spirits. Knowledge that they could not get any other way. Knowledge that Jeremy Narby says truly comes from the unknown, unseen. And that knowledge comes from a substance which is secreted by the Pineal Gland of your body. What I found interesting from Jimmy Weiskopf was another description of visions which I found to compliment those I have myself seen during meditation states.<hr></blockquote>

by **Floyd Smoots** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:05 pm

Yeah, I can see clearly in this thread that Yahweh, Yeshua, and the Holy Spirit are definitely "losers" here. I AM forced to totally AGREE with a recent poster who said, "You monkeys have NO idea whom you are dealing here."!!! <blockquote>Quote:<hr>We have Jesus saying if your eye be single your body will fill with light<hr></blockquote>. Please tell me where, in the Holy Bible, I can find this quote. And yes, I might be prejudiced by your standards, but I will accept NO other source of a "quote" from the mouth of Jesus the Christ.

2012

2012

Re: 2012

FWIW,

Re:Made me look, Jeff

Re: FWIW,

Re: 2012

And how about you Jeff ?

Re: Breaking Head

Re: And how about you Jeff ?

"You monkeys only think youre running things"

Are you Shakepearienced?

Foxy lady...

Re: Interesting link about DNA/ayahuasca

Re: SHAMANS OF THE AMAZON

SHAME ON THE AMAZON

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