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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:10 am

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NYT's D. Brooks reveals his bigotry by claiming Egyptians "lack the basic mental ingredients" for democracy

David Sirota ‏@davidsirota 28m
To know David Brooks is a bigot, change "Egyptians" to any subgroup - yes, it sounds like a eugenicists argument: https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/ ... 9705549826
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Jason Mittell ‏@jmittell 27m
@davidsirota Although change “Islamicists” to “American religious right” and it accurately describes the Republican Party.
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Ross Golowicz ‏@rgolowicz 26m
@davidsirota i don't like brooks at all, but what he said was "islamists ... lack the mental equipment to govern." somewhat different
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David Sirota ‏@davidsirota 25m
@rgolowicz wrong - read the last sentence. He says the whole country. Try reading.
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David Sirota ‏@davidsirota 23m
Its the last sentence - claiming a whole population doesnt have mental capacity is the argument of a hard-core bigot http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/05/opini ... -coup.html
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Steve Keller ‏@SteveKeller1990 21m
@davidsirota Wow, that reads like it could have come straight out of 19th-century imperial Britain
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Ross Golowicz ‏@rgolowicz 21m
@davidsirota yikes! you're right, i somehow stopped at penultimate graf. that's really atrocious
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David Sirota ‏@davidsirota 20m
Hey @Sulliview - worth asking Times editors why they are publishing blatantly bigoted old-school eugenicist screeds: https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/ ... 1622690817
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OLAASM ‏@OLAASM 15m
@jmittell change "MB/Islamists" to "neoliberal neocolonialists" and he describes US gov succinctly.

Defending the Coup
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: July 4, 2013 36 Comments
The debate on Egypt has been between those who emphasize process and those who emphasize substance.


Those who emphasize process have said that the government of President Mohamed Morsi was freely elected and that its democratic support has been confirmed over and over. The most important thing, they say, is to protect the fragile democratic institutions and to oppose those who would destroy them through armed coup.

Democracy, the argument goes, will eventually calm extremism. Members of the Muslim Brotherhood may come into office with radical beliefs, but then they have to fix potholes and worry about credit ratings and popular opinion. Governing will make them more moderate.

Those who emphasize substance, on the other hand, argue that members of the Muslim Brotherhood are defined by certain beliefs. They reject pluralism, secular democracy and, to some degree, modernity. When you elect fanatics, they continue, you have not advanced democracy. You have empowered people who are going to wind up subverting democracy. The important thing is to get people like that out of power, even if it takes a coup. The goal is to weaken political Islam, by nearly any means.

World events of the past few months have vindicated those who take the substance side of the argument. It has become clear — in Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Gaza and elsewhere — that radical Islamists are incapable of running a modern government. Many have absolutist, apocalyptic mind-sets. They have a strange fascination with a culture of death. “Dying for the sake of God is more sublime than anything,” declared one speaker at a pro-Morsi rally in Cairo on Tuesday.

As Adam Garfinkle, the editor of The American Interest, put it in an essay recently, for this sort of person “there is no need for causality, since that would imply a diminution of God’s power.” This sort of person “does not accept the existence of an objective fact separate from how he feels about it.”

Islamists might be determined enough to run effective opposition movements and committed enough to provide street-level social services. But they lack the mental equipment to govern. Once in office, they are always going to centralize power and undermine the democracy that elevated them.

Nathan Brown made that point about the Muslim Brotherhood recently in The New Republic: “The tight-knit organization built for resilience under authoritarianism made for an inward-looking, even paranoid movement when it tried to refashion itself as a governing party.”

Once elected, the Brotherhood subverted judicial review, cracked down on civil society, arrested opposition activists, perverted the constitution-writing process, concentrated power and made democratic deliberations impossible.

It’s no use lamenting Morsi’s bungling because incompetence is built into the intellectual DNA of radical Islam. We’ve seen that in Algeria, Iran, Palestine and Egypt: real-world, practical ineptitude that leads to the implosion of the governing apparatus.

The substance people are right. Promoting elections is generally a good thing even when they produce victories for democratic forces we disagree with. But elections are not a good thing when they lead to the elevation of people whose substantive beliefs fall outside the democratic orbit. It’s necessary to investigate the core of a party’s beliefs, not just accept anybody who happens to emerge from a democratic process.

This week’s military coup may merely bring Egypt back to where it was: a bloated and dysfunctional superstate controlled by a self-serving military elite. But at least radical Islam, the main threat to global peace, has been partially discredited and removed from office.

The Obama administration has not handled this situation particularly well. It has shown undue deference to a self-negating democratic process. The American ambassador to Cairo, Anne Patterson, has done what ambassadors tend to do: She tried to build relationships with whoever is in power. This created the appearance that she is subservient to the Brotherhood. It alienated the Egyptian masses. It meant that the United States looked unprepared for and hostile to the popular movement that has now arisen.

In reality, the U.S. has no ability to influence political events in Egypt in any important way. The only real leverage point is at the level of ideas. Right now, as Walter Russell Mead of Bard College put it, there are large populations across the Middle East who feel intense rage and comprehensive dissatisfaction with the status quo but who have no practical idea how to make things better. The modern thinkers who might be able to tell them have been put in jail or forced into exile. The most important thing outsiders can do is promote those people and defend those people, decade after decade.

It’s not that Egypt doesn’t have a recipe for a democratic transition. It seems to lack even the basic mental ingredients.
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Allegro » Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:27 am

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby conniption » Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:55 pm

Morsi vs. 33 Million Egyptians | Interview with Ahmed Fathi

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Published on Jul 3, 2013

Abby Martin talks to Ahmed Fathi, about the groundswell of dissent drawing out tens of millions of protestors in Egypt calling on President Mohamed Morsi to step down.
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:41 pm

Because of our delicate relations in the past, I'm saying nothing. Except, of course that's because I want to hear more of her informed, unique perspective. (Reposts of the above have been very popular on Facebook, fwiw.)

Once Tamarood mobilized however many million (we've heard everything from 15 to 33) who were determined to see Morsi toppled, with food prices having doubled under Morsi, the dynamics left only two possible outcomes: The army would back Morsi and there would be massacres and civil war, or they would topple Morsi. (That is political science talking, not any claim on my part to particular expertise on Egypt, which I lack.)

Another big thing along with the uprising in Turkey (and the ruling on Gezi Park day before yesterday) is that Syria is now much less likely to play the role of Serbia in the New World War I.

Here are two writers I've followed on Egypt coming down on opposite sides. I'm hoping Alice will have something to say about Al-Amin in particular.

One thing I've missed entirely: What's the composition of SCAF after Morsi pushed out the gerontocrats? Is it possible any of them are at least looking back to Nasser rather than Mubarak?


http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/07/05/ ... ject/print

WEEKEND EDITION JULY 5-7, 2013

What's Plan C for Egypt?
The Fall of Morsi and the Neocolonial Project


by DAN GLAZEBROOK

London.


The revolutionary momentum currently making waves in Egypt once again is not primarily a revolt against one man or even one state, but an uprising against conditions which are fast becoming universal features of the current crisis-ridden world economic order: permanent mass unemployment, rampant inflation in the price of basic goods (food and fuel in particular) and merciless attacks on welfare for the poor. Egyptians are through with governments that are prepared to impose such conditions and sacrifice all notions of sovereignty and social justice whilst feathering their own nests in the process. President Morsi has overseen a year in office in which food prices have doubled, and has – at the behest of the IMF – committed himself to ending the fuel subsidies on which millions of the poorest Egyptians depend. He has signed up to a Free Trade Agreement with the EU that will exacerbate unemployment and rural impoverishment and has shown his commitment to imperial interests by flooding the Gaza tunnels with sewage and calling for a ‘no-fly zone’ (code for NATO bombardment) in Syria. In so doing, he has attempted to ensure that the Mubarak strategy of subservience to American, British and Israeli interests is not only maintained, but deepened – at the cost of basic living standards and at a time when the neo-colonial world order is clearly breaking down under the double hammer blows of economic crisis and third world resurgence. This is not a strategy which most Egyptians are any longer willing to tolerate. The millions-strong mobilisations of the past week have shown that they will no longer back leaders who leave economic policy in the hands of Europe and the international banking elite, security in the hands of a savage and torturing police force, and foreign policy in the hands of the US, Britain and Israel.

The revolutionary upsurge that has just forced Morsi from power, however, did not just emerge last week, last year or even in January 2011. It began in 2007 when the biggest strike wave to have hit the African continent for 50 years broke out in the Misr spinning and complex in Mahalla, quickly spreading to most other major industries in the country. This coincided with an unprecedented wave of agrarian unrest against neoliberal policies which were – and still are – devastating the rural population who still constitute the majority of Egyptian society. So taken aback were the Egyptian authorities, that they were forced to put the brakes on the ‘economic reforms’ – code for the decimation of national control and regulation – being pushed by the IMF and the EU, in an attempt to quell the emerging unrest. It did not work, and the growing movement demonstrated its strength by putting 15million onto the streets in January 2011, forcing Mubarak’s removal. The military council that replaced him backtracked on neoliberal diktat even more, reversing some of the liberalisation measures that had been implemented previously, much to the fury of the EU.

President Morsi was supposed to put a lid on this unrest. By adding a veneer of Islamism to the same neo-colonial policies of his predecessor, he was supposed to succeed where others had failed, tapping into the cultural traditions of Egyptian society in order to win ‘legitimacy’ (his favourite word, used 56 times in his last speech) for fundamentally unpopular policies. It didn’t work. The events of this week mark the defeat of neocolonialism’s ‘plan B’ for Egypt.

What plan C will look like is not yet clear. The problem for the Egyptian army council is that to win genuine legitimacy, any future Egyptian government will have to end its collaboration with the blockade of Gaza, stop privileging extortionate interest payments to international bankers on Mubarak-era loans over social spending, and reject the IMF loan conditionalities and EU trade deals that threaten to plunge millions into ever deeper poverty. Indeed, it is precisely these types of demands that were at the forefront of the Tamarod campaign of opposition to Morsi, whose petition garnered a reported 22 million signatures. These moves would be the minimum necessary to win the support of the people, but are precisely what would make the Egyptian government illegitimate in the eyes of its international backers in London and Washington.

The dividing lines, then, are clear. Much as the imperial powers would love to see Egypt implode into a sectarian disaster along the lines pioneered in Iraq and now being spread to Libya and Syria, the dividing line is NOT between Sunni and Shia, or between Islamist and secularist. It is between those who support genuine independence (the prerequisite for any meaningful moves towards social justice or democracy), and those who support continued collaboration with the imperial project to plunder and cripple the region. Long live the Egyptian revolution!


Dan Glazebrook is a political writer and journalist. He writes regularly on international relations and the use of state violence in British domestic and foreign policy.




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WEEKEND EDITION JULY 5-7, 2013

How to Thwart Democracy?
In Egypt the Military is Supreme


by ESAM AL-AMIN

The Generals have done it again!


Egypt’s president, Mohamed Morsi, was deposed one year after being democratically elected by the Egyptian people. For those opposed to Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood (MB), the move by the military is seen as supporting a popular uprising and a belated effort to revive or restore the Egyptian revolution that ousted Hosni Mubarak more than two years ago. But for Morsi’s supporters or those who simply had any respect for democratic governance and the rule of law, the action by the army is nothing short of a brazen though soft military coup d’état.

Which one is it? Here are the facts.

The military in Egypt has always enjoyed a privileged and autonomous status and is tacitly considered the power behind the throne. For decades, political power was concentrated in the hands of an elite yet mostly corrupt political and business class that monopolized power and looted the country’s resources. But the revolution that toppled Mubarak was in essence a rejection not just against the dictator, but also his entire corrupt regime. One of the major demands of the revolution was to get rid of dictatorship and repression and uphold the principles of democracy and the rule of law.

Over the next two years, the political process that followed Mubarak’s overthrow allowed for the will of the Egyptian people to be expressed numerous times through free and fair elections and referenda. The people in Egypt went to the polls at least six times: to vote for a referendum to chart the political way forward (March 2011), to vote for the lower and upper house of parliament (November 2011-January 2012), to elect a civilian president over two rounds (May-June 2012), and to ratify the new constitution (December 2012). Each time the electorate voted for the choice of the Islamist parties to the frustration of the secular and liberal opposition.


I should dig up Al-Amin's columns from each of these occasions and see what he had to say, but this is also the catalogue of an incredibly ass-backwards process set up by the SCAF. Since when do you elect a parliament and a powerful president before a constitution? This was set up to harness popular participation without actual control. (Not to mention all the ways in which the elections were manipulated, covered at times above.) One of the key things we're going to see now is whether there will finally be a constituent assembly prior to a constitution being written, let alone a president elected!

To the discontent of the Islamists, all their gains at the polls were reversed by either the Mubarak-appointed Supreme Constitutional Court (SCC) or the military. The lower house of parliament, of which the Islamists won seventy three percent of the seats, was dissolved by the SCC a year ago, while the military has just suspended the new constitution, while ousting the democratically-elected president.

Undoubtedly, the MB committed colossal mistakes. For example, they reneged on several promises to their secular and liberal coalition partners, including to not contest the majority of parliamentary seats, field a presidential candidate, or exclude others in the composition of the Constitution Constituent Assembly. Perhaps, their gravest mistake was to ally themselves closely with the Salafist groups during the process of writing the constitution, thus alienating many of the secularists, liberals, as well as Christians even though the MB did not care much about the constitutional ideological battle. Their motivation was not to be outflanked by the Salafis on the Islamic identity of the state. To accomplish this objective, they lost most of the others.

In addition, Morsi and the MB did not adhere to their promise of full partnership in governance. Many of the youth and opposition groups felt that the president and MB leadership were not genuine in their outreach and only sought their participation for cosmetic reasons. Even their Islamic partners such as the Salafist Al-Noor Party complained that the MB wanted to monopolize the major power centers in the state. It did not matter that the MB did not control the military, the intelligence, the security apparatus, the police, the diplomatic corps, the banking system, or even the bureaucracy. But because of the MB’s lack of transparency and openness, the perception was that they were trying to control the major centers of powers in the state and exclude other parties based on ideology while the reality was that such control was non-existent or superficial.

But to the average people on the street what mattered was their security and livelihood. During his one year in power, Morsi faced enormous challenges: deterioration in security and basic services, lack of social justice, and economic decline. It appeared to many as deliberate attempts by the deep state (entrenched elements and bureaucrats loyal to the former regime) to ensure the failure of his presidency. His lack of transparency and openness to his people in favor of presenting an optimistic or upbeat outlook added to public cynicism and the perception of incompetence. Another major mistake by the MB was its failure to separate its socio-religious movement from its political manifestation, the Freedom and Justice Party (FJP). While the public in past times respected the MB for its social services and religious outreach, engaging in politics by its nature is a source of division and rancor. For example when the MB fielded its presidential candidate in March 2012, it was MB’s Guidance Bureau that made the declaration instead of the FJP. In the eyes of the public there was little distinction between the MB and the FJP. So the MB was, correctly or not, held responsible for any political missteps by the FJP.

In part because the 2011 revolutionary partners were sharply divided on ideological grounds, former regime loyalists, politicians, and corrupt businessmen were able to regroup and play an increasing role in the political battles that engulfed the country. Mubarak’s National Democratic Party (NDP), which dominated political life for decades, was the only party in the country capable of organizing nationwide and competing with the MB. But since the public rejected the NDP (and it was banned shortly after Mubarak was deposed), it did not participate in the parliamentary elections in the fall of 2011. However, by June 2012, Ahmad Shafiq, Mubarak’s last Prime Minster, represented the NDP’s interests. As one of the two remaining candidates in the second round of the presidential elections, he ultimately lost by less than two percent.

Morsi took over power by June 30, 2012. When he was not as inclusive as promised in his senior appointments, the opposition almost immediately turned against him. Two months after he was sworn in, they called for a massive protest on August 24, calling it “The protest to oust the rule of the Brotherhood.” Their hostility and acrimony increased as the writing of the new constitution was finalized. Meanwhile, the new political openness and freedom in the country allowed for the private media, owned and controlled by many of the former regime’s loyalists and supporters, to target Morsi and the MB in an orchestrated campaign to alienate and inflame the public.

By the time the president issued his ill-advised and ill-fated constitutional decree, the opposition was not only united against Morsi and the MB but also determined to dislodge them from power. Morsi argued that his move was necessary to protect the nascent democratic political structures that the courts were dissolving one by one. He eventually reversed course and annulled his decree, even though the opposition rejected all his appeals for political dialogue. However, his objective of having a new constitution, which the opposition vehemently rejected, and replacing the Mubarak-appointed public prosecutor, a demand that the youth and revolutionary groups had called for, were already fulfilled. This single act proved to be a rallying point for all the opposition and the remnants of the former regime (fulool), which united under the National Salvation Front (NSF) in order to confront and defeat Morsi and the MB. They campaigned vigorously to defeat the constitution, which to their dismay, was passed by 64 percent.

Meanwhile, the MB and their Islamist allies aimed at targeting the corrupt elements in the judiciary, which represented not only a major obstacle in delaying or dissolving the new democratic components of the state, but also it reversed the convictions and released all the corrupt elements of the Mubarak regime. Although this was also a revolutionary demand, the opposition, which so far had not fared well at the ballot box, aligned itself with the judiciary and accused the Islamists of attacking an independent branch of government that had reservations, if not outright discontent, about the revolution.

By the spring of 2013, the MB and its supporters were preparing for new parliamentary elections, which they had expected to win. Their strategy was that if they won the parliamentary elections and forced judiciary reform, they would be able to control or influence all branches of government and easily confront the deep state and institute their program. Sensing the danger of this scenario, NSF coordinator Dr. Mohammad ElBaradei met with Shafiq in the United Arab Emirates in March. In an interview last week, Shafiq disclosed that he and ElBaradei had agreed on an elaborate plan to depose Morsi and the MB. He also predicted that Morsi and MB officials would be arrested and tried. Furthermore, Shafiq complained that ElBaradei and the opposition did not fulfill their part of the bargain, which was to promote and support Shafiq and help make him the next president, and that they instead began to distance themselves from him.

Throughout the political power struggle, the youth movements, which spearheaded the 2011 revolution against the Mubarak regime, were marginalized while their grievances were not addressed. Morsi and the MB gave only lip service to their demands and needs. But during his address to the nation last week, Morsi belatedly acknowledged this neglect as he promised to address it. By late April, the youth groups had already come together to form a new movement called Tamarrud or Rebellion. The central theme in their program was to call for early presidential elections by gathering 15 million signatures, a million more than Morsi had received during his presidential run.

During the process, the secular opposition and the fulool embraced Tamarrud’s message, while the latter used the offices of the NSF and held several press conferences at the headquarters of well-known media outlets of Mubarak loyalists. There is also anecdotal evidence that the group received financial support from fulool groups. Meanwhile, the private media started a well-orchestrated campaign and continuous onslaught on the MB in particular and the Islamists in general. The level of hostility and hatred spewed against them was reminiscent of the 1930s Nazi propaganda against the Jews. Dozens of incidents were reported in the past two months, in which supporters of the MB were attacked verbally and physically by strangers because of their purported associations.

Though the campaign against the MB was in full swing, the president and the group did not take it seriously and did not attempt to offer a compromise to the opposition or genuinely address their concerns. They miscalculated badly as they thought that the popular support of Tamarrud’s initiative was thin. In short, the MB was facing a perfect storm. Whether in reality or perception, the MB has alienated its former liberal and secular partners, the youth groups, the judiciary, the media, the general public because of lack of services and rising prices The fulool and their allies within the deep state took advantage of this public discontent. Many former security officials and wealthy businessmen tied to the former regime were seen organizing and mobilizing for the June 30th protest, the day Tamarrud designated to force Morsi’s ouster. By July 2, the Appellate Court invalidated the appointment of the General Prosecutor appointed by Morsi and returned the Mubarak-appointed corrupt prosecutor, who was dismissed last November. Furthermore, in order to further muddy the political scene, the courts also ordered that Morsi’s Prime Minister, Dr. Hisham Qandil, be arrested and sentenced to one year in prison for not implementing an earlier court order given to a Mubarak-era prime minister.

However, on June 30 an impressive numbers of Egyptians protested against the MB and the president in Tahrir Square and across Egypt. It was reminiscent of the early days of the 2011 protests against Mubarak. Although the protesters did not include Islamist groups, they were diverse. Many youth groups were represented, voicing their frustration of being marginalized and their demands neglected. Many were ordinary citizens alienated because of economic hardship and the lack of basic services. Many were secularists who hated Islamists and wanted to overthrow them by revolutionary means since they could not defeat them at the ballot box. Many were Christians who feared the Islamists and were tacitly encouraged by the Coptic Church to participate. But it was also clear than many were fulool and Mubarak regime loyalists as the picture of the former dictator was prominently raised and hailed in Tahrir Square amid chants in his support. Many were also former and current security officials who showed up in their uniforms. Even two former Interior Ministers who served during the military transitional rule and former regime were leading the protests as revolutionaries, even though they were charged by the youth groups at the time with murdering their revolutionary friends and comrades. Many protesters were also thugs hired by NDP politicians and corrupt business people. In fact, over the three days protest, these thugs raped over 100 women in Tahrir Square including female journalists, according to public officials. Meanwhile, in an orchestrated manner, dozens of buildings that belonged to the MB and the FJP including their headquarters were burned down, torched, or ransacked. More than a dozen members were killed, while hundreds were wounded. Within hours, five cabinet ministers resigned and dozens of senior officials including presidential spokespersons and dozens of diplomats submitted their resignations in an attempt to collapse the state.

Meanwhile, pro-Morsi supporters were also gathering in a different square in Cairo in large numbers. After the MB and its allies saw the massive demonstrations of their opponents on June 30 they called for massive mobilization the following day, holding more than 20 huge protests across the country that also numbered in the millions. With few exceptions, the secular and liberal media ignored these protests.

On the afternoon of June 30, Defense Minister and military chief Gen. Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, who was appointed by Morsi last August, issued an ultimatum to the president and the opposition to reach a compromise within 48 hours or else the military would intervene. In reality, it was an ultimatum to the president to resign since the opposition had in the past rejected all attempts at dialogue or compromise. On July 1, the frustrated president addressed the nation and adamantly rejected the military’s ultimatum, as he called on his people to support his legitimacy as a democratically-elected president. Immediately after the speech, the president’s supporters, who were holding a huge rally in Giza, were attacked by thugs and snipers. Sixteen people were killed and hundreds wounded.

By July 2, it was evident that the army has decided to overthrow Morsi and side with the opposition. As the military reached out to foreign governments, it was clear that many Western governments, especially the U.S. had difficulty accepting the military overthrow of an elected president. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey, called their Egyptian counterparts, advising that they should instead either encourage Morsi to resign or keep him as a figurehead.

However, as they officially announced that Morsi was removed from power, the generals surrounded themselves with several civilian and religious leaders, including the head of Al-Azhar, the Coptic Pope, ElBaradei as NSF spokesman, and representatives of Tamarrud and the Salafist Al-Noor Party. It was a brazen attempt to make it seem as if the overthrow of Morsi had broad consensus by civilian and religious leaders.

In essence, Sisi embraced all the demands of the opposition and the fulool. Not only did he depose Morsi and replace him with the head of the SCC, but he also suspended the constitution and dismissed the government. He unilaterally also gave the powers to issue constitutional decrees and legislative authority to the newly- installed president. Within minutes, huge celebrations with full display of festivities and fireworks were taking place in Tahrir Square and in many cities across Egypt. Meanwhile, Morsi’s supporters across Egypt were stunned and angry at the turn of events. They had mistakenly held hope that the army would force some sort of a compromise that would not circumvent the will of the Egyptian people who elected a president and passed a new constitution with a large margin only few months ago.

Immediately after Sisi’s announcement, the new regime began its crackdown on the media that supported the deposed president. Four TV satellite channels that belonged to the MB or the Islamists, as well as two Al-Jazeera channels were suspended and taken off the air. The pro-Morsi protests across Egypt were also surrounded by the military. TV cameras were removed and the electricity was cut in anticipation of forcefully evacuating the protesters, as food and water were denied.

Meanwhile, MB leaders Mohammad El-Beltagi and Esam El-Erian, who played pivotal roles during the 2011 revolution, called Morsi’s ouster by the military an illegal coup d’état and vowed to oppose it, as they called on their supporters to resist it with all peaceful means even if they lose their lives. Morsi also released an eleven-minute video on the Internet rejecting his overthrow and defying the military’s act, insisting on his constitutional legitimacy as the duly elected president of the country.

Meanwhile, a crackdown against the MB leaders and their supporters was in full force, strongly suggesting premeditation. Within two hours of Sisi’s announcement, Morsi and some of his senior assistants were detained and transferred to the defense ministry. Former speaker and FJP Chairman, Dr. Saad Katatni, , MB leader and General Guide Dr. Muhammad Badie, as well as his deputies Khayrat El-Shater and Rashad Bayyoumi were also arrested. Former presidential candidate and Islamist Hazem Salah Abu Ismail and preacher Safwat Hegazi were arrested and charged with ‘insulting the military.’ Al-Ahram newspaper also reported that over 300 arrest warrants were issued against the MB and their supporters, as dozens were rounded up while all MB and FJP properties, assets, and buildings were being seized and their bank accounts frozen. Moreover, within minutes of the announcement, King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia and Muhammd Bin Zayed of the UAE, the two countries most openly hostile to the MB’s rule, issued statements praising and congratulating the military. Ironically, Bashar Al-Assad of Syria expressed his relief and joy at the ouster of ‘the Islamist regime’ that was threatening his country.

Meanwhile, the Secular and liberal opposition and many youth groups and their supporters argued that their protests followed by the ouster of Morsi by the military was analogous to the overthrow of Mubarak. But this argument conveniently ignores the fact that Mubarak was not a legitimate president or elected by the will of the Egyptian people while Morsi, whether one supports or opposes him, loves or hates him, was duly elected in free, fair, and contested elections that the entire world observed and accepted. Furthermore, Mubarak killed hundreds of youth in order to stay in power, while dozens of youth were killed in the streets defending the legitimacy of Morsi’s presidency. In addition, most of the people and groups who oppose Morsi today after one year in power, never lifted a finger during Mubarak’s 30 year reign. Mubarak’s security apparatus used thugs to terrorize his opponents and oversee fraudulent elections, while the same thugs today attack and terrorize unarmed supporters of Morsi. While official and government media outlets and corrupt businesspeople and judges supported Mubarak for decades, the same government-supported media, businesspeople, and judges attacked Morsi from his first day in office.

Liberals, democrats, and human rights activists have been preaching to Islamists for decades that democracy is the only legitimate system for peaceful political participation and transition of power. In 1992, when the Algerian military intervened and canceled elections after the Islamic Salvation front (FIS) won it, the West, led by the U.S. and France, looked the other way. Meanwhile, Algeria was engulfed in civil strife for over a decade, a conflict that resulted in over two hundred thousand deaths. Two decades later, whether or not one agrees with its political program, favors or despises the MB, there is no doubt that the group played by the rules of democracy and embraced the rule of law. It did not employ or advocate the use of violence. Yet, it is the height of irony that the ones who called for, encouraged, and cheered the military intervention to oust a democratically-elected president are the secular, liberal, and leftist parties and individuals such as ElBaradei, Amr Mousa, Naguib Sawiris, Ayman Noor, and Hamdein Sabbahi, as well as human and civil rights activists who frequently advocate for free media and freedom of political association.

The international community looked the other way when the will of the Algerian and Palestinian people were thwarted when they elected Islamists in 1992 and 2006. This is the third time in two decades Islamists are dislodged from power. It remains to be seen if the West will take a strong stand against the military’s latest attempt to prevent Islamists from holding power. It may indeed define the relationship between Islamist groups and Western governments for the foreseeable future. The message such stand would send to people around the world will be profound. Either the West stands for democratic principles and the rule of law or it does not. When President Obama called Morsi on June 30, he admonished him that “democracy is about more than elections.” But what is equally essential to recognize is that there is no democracy without respecting and protecting the legitimacy of its results regardless of its outcome.


Esam Al-Amin is the author of The Arab Awakening Unveiled: Understanding Transformations and Revolutions in the Middle East. He can be contacted at alamin1919@gmail.com.

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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby JackRiddler » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:44 pm

Nafeez:


http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/e ... ests/print

Egypt's new age of unrest is a taste of things to come

Mass street protests are symptom of unsustainability of IMF model in the face of environmental and energy challenges


Last night's ousting of President Mohamed Morsi by the Egyptian army comes as no surprise. Despite being Egypt's first freely elected leader, his attempts to override democratic checks and balances while grabbing unilateral executive power fuelled widespread simmering grievances. Although Adli Mansour, the new interim leader sworn in today by the army, promises to pave the way for new democratic elections, the fundamental drivers of Egyptian rage remain overlooked.

Morsi's key problem was that he had spent most of his energies on consolidating the reach of his party, the Muslim Brotherhood, rather than dealing with Egypt's entrenched social, economic and political problems. Indeed, Egyptian unrest is the consequence of a fatal cocktail of structural failures rooted in an unsustainable global model of industrial civilisation - addicted to fossil fuels, wedded fanatically to casino capitalism, and convinced, ostrich-like, that somehow technology alone will save us.

Egypt's oil production peaked in 1996, and since then has declined by around 26%. Having moved from complete food self-sufficiency since the 1960s, to excessive dependence on imports subsidised by oil revenues (now importing 75% of its wheat), declining oil revenues have increasingly impacted food and fuel subsidies. As high food prices are generally underpinned by high oil prices - because energy accounts for over a third of the costs of grain production - this has further contributed to surging global food prices.

Food price hikes have coincided with devastating climate change impacts in the form of extreme weather in key food-basket regions. Since 2010, we have seen droughts and heat-waves in the US, Russia, and China, leading to a dramatic fall in wheat yields, on which Egypt is heavily dependent. The subsequent doubling of global wheat prices - from $157/metric tonne in June 2010 to $326/metric tonne in February 2011 - directly affected millions of Egyptians, who already spend about 40% of their income on food. That helped trigger the events that led to the fall of Hosni Mubarak in 2011 - but the same configuration of factors is worsening.

Egypt has suffered from horrendous debt levels at about 80.5% of its GDP, far higher than most other countries in the region. Inequality is also high, widening over the last decade in the wake of neoliberal 'structural adjustment' reforms implemented throughout the region since the 1980s with debilitating effects, including contraction of social welfare, reduction of wages, and lack of infrastructure investment.

Not learning the lesson of history, Morsi's economic plan was to ingratiate himself as much as possible with the very institution, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), that had already played a central role in escalating the country's economic woes.

Last month, al-Ahram reported that a combination of surging food prices, "weakening Egyptian pound" and "energy shortages", had propelled urban inflation to 8.1%. But inflation was also the result of an austerity programme designed to meet IMF conditionalities before loan approval:

"The government, for its part, is adopting an economic programme that involves a string of austerity measures that include reducing energy subsidies that eat up a fifth of the country's budget, and raising sales tax on select items to broaden the tax base. While unpopular by nature, Egypt is pushing the measures to secure a $4.8 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF)."

With 40% of Egyptians already below the UN poverty line of less than £2 a day, Morsi's IMF-inspired policies amounted to a form of economic warfare on the Egyptian people. To make matters worse, as Egypt's economic crisis made it harder to arrange payments, wheat imports dropped sharply - between 1 January and 20 February, the country bought around 259,043 tonnes, roughly a third of what it purchased in the same period a year ago. Coupled with ongoing unemployment and poverty, Morsi's Egypt was a time-bomb waiting to explode.

Post-Morsi, Egypt still faces the same challenges, which have worsened under the Brotherhood's mismanagement. In the long term, the country also faces a growing demographic crisis. Currently at 84 million, the population is projected to increase to an estimated 100 million after about a decade.

In this sense, Egypt is in some ways a microcosm of our global challenges. With the age of cheap oil well and truly behind us, an age of climate extremes and population growth ahead, we should expect increasing food prices for the foreseeable future. This in turn will have consequences. For the last few years, the food price index has fluctuated above the critical threshold for probability of civil unrest.

Unless Egypt's leaders and activists begin taking stock of the convergence of crises unraveling the social fabric, their country faces a permanent future of intensifying turmoil.

And that lesson, in a world facing rising food, water and energy challenges, is one no government can afford to ignore.


Dr Nafeez Ahmed is executive director of the Institute for Policy Research & Development and author of A User's Guide to the Crisis of Civilisation: And How to Save It among other books. Follow him on Twitter @nafeezahmed
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby slimmouse » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:28 am

If they could somehow build the idea of a manifesto being essentially a contract with the people they are proposing it to, as opposed to an opportunity to wax lyrically about ideals that most people can get behind, only to be cynically dropped like a metaphorical WMD, leaving people with the sense that they have yet again been lied to by the very political process itself.......
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:36 am

Thank you so much for all your kind thoughts, but I'm afraid I have neither the time nor the stamina to post regularly or even frequently here for the foreseeable future. It just felt right to pop back for a quick visit to celebrate with you and share my joy with my old friends during this incredible time.

I shouldn't need to say this here, of all places, but don't believe everything you hear or read in the media. Jack, Essam el-Amin seems to be a very mysterious person; all I know is that he is not Egyptian, and is described merely as a "writer and expert on the Middle East", though how he acquired his "expertise" is never mentioned. It may very well be a suitably Arab-sounding pseudonym. In that article, nearly every sentence he wrote is an outrageous lie. For example:

...whether or not one agrees with its political program, favors or despises the MB, there is no doubt that the group played by the rules of democracy and embraced the rule of law. It did not employ or advocate the use of violence.


1) During the presidential elections that brought Morsy to power last June, terrorist militias from the Brotherhood and their allies drove through the streets of Upper Egyptian towns with a high percentage of Christians and warned Christian voters to stay home and not vote. Later, those who went to the ballot stations were turned back by machine-gun toting thugs. This was just one of the many ways in which the election results were rigged in favor of Morsy. These events were fully documented and investigations were launched, but were discontinued by order of the Prosecutor-General whom Morsy personally appointed illegally, after firing the real Prosecutor-General in violation of the law.

2) Morsy's first decision as president was to grant a presidential pardon to thousands of convicted terrorists and order their release from prison, Many of them went on to form political parties that formed Morsy's "allies" and spurious "opposition", which were used to give the illusion of pluralism, while excluding the legitimate opposition. Others went to Sinai, where they coordinated the formation of armed terrorist militias. Sinai became a terrorist playground, where our soldiers and police officers were murdered and kidnapped at will. Morsy and his government shut down any investigations and ordered the army to refrain from conducting any operations there.

3) When Egypt's Supreme Court was due to rule on the legality of the incredibly skewed constituent assembly that was dominated by the Brotherhood and their allies, the Supreme Court building was besieged by thousands of Brotherhood members, who prevented the judges of the Supreme Court from meeting and threatened their lives, chanting, "Mr. President, give us the signal, and we'll send them to you in a bag." As a result, the Supreme Court did not meet in time to rule on whether the constituent assembly was legal, before the new Brotherhood constitution was passed. An outrageously rigged referendum then "legitimized" the new constitution, which, among other things, forced out the most prominent members of the Supreme Court.

4) Last November, when Morsy issued a constitutional decree granting himself full dictatorial powers, including the power to issue legislation, and total legal immunity from future accountability or prosecution, hundreds of thousands of Egyptians marched in protest, and a few hundred began a sit-in before the presidential palace. On the second day, armed Brotherhood thugs beat and shot and tortured and kidnapped the demonstrators, in the streets of Heliopolis and in front of the presidential palace. Some were tortured inside the palace itself, under the direct supervision of a well-known leading member of the Brotherhood. This was very well documented, in video and photos that clearly showed the identities of the perpetrators. Morsy went on television and said that 51 of the demonstrators had confessed that they were hired by famous opposition figures. The District Attorney to whom they were handed over by the Brotherhood said that they were survivors of torture and there was no evidence they had done anything wrong or illegal, and had them released. As a result, he received direct threats from Morsy's illegally-appointed Prosecutor General, who accused him of "embarrassing the president", and tried to fire him from his job. The District Attorney, Mustafa Mokhtar, quickly became a national hero and immense public pressure forced Morsy's Prosecutor General to rescind the decision to fire him.


Seriously, I could go on and on. This is just a very small sample. The mass murders in Port Said alone, executed by Morsy's Interior Ministry last January, could fill a book. This past year under Morsy's presidency has been a literal hell. The previous year and a half under the Military Council were really, really bad, but things got even worse when the Brotherhood took over the presidency. Throughout all this, we kept seeing how the Western media and government officials turned a blind eye to all of the Brotherhood's crimes and referred to this US-imposed thugocracy as a "fledgling democracy".

It's been painful, but unbelievably educational. We've learned so much, and one of the most important things we've learned is to ignore the smoke and fog of lies that the Western media produces. It doesn't matter what others think, or what they think they know. The only thing that matters is what WE do. And what we did is join together to liberate OURSELVES!!!
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:45 am

Oh, and this is the last thing I'll say: in answer to your question, the old Military Council has been replaced with a National Security Council, headed by Army Chief of Staff General Abdelfattah el-Sisi, who is the single most popular person in Egypt today. Personally, I have been beyond impressed with him. And yes, the comparison with my hero Gamal Abdel-Nasser has definitely crossed my mind. (Although Abdel-Nasser was undoubtedly a dictator, and Al-Sisi has defined the army's role as to serve and protect, but never to rule).
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Postby slimmouse » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:35 am

Thanks enormously for your update. Your voice, coupled with the general western media silence with regards to what you speak, would suggest that the West certainly had their man in Morsi.

Alice, do you have time to speak your thoughts about the interim Prime minister and Cheif Justice guy? Would it be wrong to suggest that the council of leading Academics, Lawyers and other people need to be talking to him in the strongest possible terms, with regards to where Egypts future lies?
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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:34 pm

Sorry I can't answer the way I'd like to, because I'll be traveling in a few hours, but the interim president Chief Justice Adly Mansour will have very limited powers; executive power will be concentrated in the hands of the vice president, most probably Dr. Mohamed El Baradei. The position of prime minister has been offered to the widely respected head of the Central Bank, Hisham Ramzy, but he refused it. So we don't know who it will be yet.

The important thing is that all decisions will be vetted by representatives of the Tamarod ("Rebellion") movement that organized the uprising against Morsy, a representative of the women's movement (Dr. Sekina Fouad), and other representatives of civil society, as well as the National Security Council. The objective is to have a new constitution, then elections for a new parliament and president, ideally within 6-8 months. We're taking it one step at a time, but so far so good.

The Western media, especially CNN and BBC, have been atrociously inaccurate. But I did like this supposed quote from The Economist:

"If the people and military in Germany or Italy of the 1930s had similarly understood the need to aim for the head, elected leaders like Hitler and Mussolini might never have remained in power as long as they did."

I don't have the link; I found it on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151755277815871&set=a.10150119270580871.323909.756465870&type=1&theater

One final bit of news: Morsy and the Brotherhood left Egypt with a massive debt (Mubarak left Egypt with a debt of US$ 30 billion; under the Brotherhood, in one year, it rose to more than $43 billion, while all services and infrastructure deteriorated drastically). Incidentally, members of the Brotherhood, including Morsy and his family, spent lavishly on themselves from the public trough. Since his ouster, a grassroots initiative has aimed to raise, from Egyptian private citizens here and abroad, enough money that Egypt would not be forced to borrow either from the IMF, nor would it need any handouts from the US. So far, this initiative has raised nearly US$ 7 billion, and counting. This is what Egyptians are capable of doing, when they unite, and when they feel empowered.

Now goodbye and best wishes to everyone here. I won't be posting again for a while, but I'll be thinking of you, always.
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Postby semper occultus » Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:56 pm

Wall Street Journal says Egypt needs a Pinochet

Martin Pengelly in New York

guardian.co.uk, Saturday 6 July 2013 14.09 BST

On Friday, the Wall Street Journal published an editorial entitled "After the Coup in Cairo". Its final paragraph contained these words:

Egyptians would be lucky if their new ruling generals turn out to be in the mold of Chile's Augusto Pinochet, who took over power amid chaos but hired free-market reformers and midwifed a transition to democracy.


Presumably, this means that those who speak for the Wall Street Journal – the editorial was unsigned – think Egypt should think itself lucky if its ruling generals now preside over a 17-year reign of terror. I also take it the WSJ means us to associate two governments removed by generals – the one led by Salvador Allende in Chile and the one led by Mohamed Morsi in Egypt. Islamist, socialist … elected, legitimate … who cares?

continued ....http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/06/wall-street-journal-editorial-egypt-pinochet
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Postby JackRiddler » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:51 am

I've been telling people all weekend - this is the Wall Street Journal, enemy to the world. Especially editorial page. They supported Pinochet from before 9/11/73 until today. The capitalist press has coined the term "Pinochet solution" and has recommended it for many countries. They called for a "Russian Pinochet" in the 1990s. There is absolutely nothing unusual in this. If someone could come up with a clever stunt protest -- show up dressed as Pinochet and order them closed? -- they deserve it.

Just to show what a central totem Pinochet is to the fascistoid capitalist establishment, whether they play "Democrats" or "Republicans," here's what I dug up right away - no less an influential figure than Brzezinski wrote in the WSJ in the year 2000 about how it would be good for Russia if the newly installed Putin turned out to be a Pinochet, since the latter imposed order on anarchy (!!!) and "unleashed a free-market economy and eventually paved the way for democracy." (!!!)



http://www.zcommunications.org/russia-u ... ard-herman

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The question for Zbigniew Brzezinski is “Will Putin be Russia’s Milosevic or its Pinochet?” (Wall Street Journal, January 4, 2000). He explains that “A great deal rides on the answer for Russia and for the world. President Slobodan Milosevic took Yugoslavia down the road to nationalist adventurism, bringing bloodshed and a series of historic defeats. In Chile, General Augusto Pinochet imposed brutal order in the wake of anarchy, unleashed a free-market economy and eventually paved the way for democracy.” Brzezinski finds Putin’s initial auguries “not encouraging,” and he has a strong critique of Putin’s and Russia’s recent corruption and aggression. But is it not revealing that this former National Security Adviser to Jimmy Carter and commentator with ready access to the media openly puts forward Pinochet as a model of constructive statemanship?
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Re: Live: Al Jazeera coverage of Egypt’s growing revolution

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Sun Jul 07, 2013 11:26 pm

Not sure to put this here or in the War on Women thread. Mod's choice.

80 sexual assaults in Cairo protests in one day

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... rir-square



http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?opt ... mival=9658


JIHAN HAFIZ, TRNN CORRESPONDENT, CAIRO: It's a grim reality that has lately united Egyptian women from all walks of life. Two years of increased sexualized violence against female protesters has forced an ugly epidemic into the national spotlight. The gang rapes and attacks on women in the revolution's iconic Tahrir Square enraged many Egyptians to organize this protest specifically against sexualized violence. Angry chants condemned a system that condones and perpetuates violence targeting women.


JIHAN FADEL, EGYPTIAN ACTRESS (SUBTITLED TRANSL.): There was harassment before the revolution, but what we have now is gangs. I'm talking about 30, 40, 50 men attacking with knives. That's not harassment. They're attacking women with pocket knives. Is that harassment? These are crimes.


HAFIZ: Increased attacks singling out female protesters exploded over the past two years, culminating in scenes like this on January 25 last month. Volunteers and activists with anti-harassment campaigns filmed these mob attacks against women this past January 25.



Egypt's Ongoing Problem With Sexual Harassment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jessica-o ... 24391.html
Sexual harassment is an epidemic in Cairo. Young men loiter on downtown street corners and make lewd noises, belittling comments and gestures at women who pass, sometimes even physically assaulting them. When I was working in Cairo in 2006, a video was posted on YouTube showing the attacks of two young women by groups of men in Cairo's downtown shopping district during the holiday of Eid Al-Fitr. In the same busy streets around Tahrir, it showed two veiled women brutally assulted by a surging mob of men. Multiple videos of the attack--and from others that took place the same day --were posted on Youtube. No charges were ever filed against the attackers.


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Postby JackRiddler » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:39 pm

Massacre today, at least 43 people dead at protest in front of army barracks where Morsi is presumed to be held.

Perspective against the coup. Not a supporter of Muslim Brotherhood, but says she didn't vote in any of the elections and referenda so far, considering them illegitimate. Nevertheless, what of all those who did and returned majorities for MB, notwithstanding election rigging? Why should they ever believe in democracy again? She doesn't ask how many of those may have also been on the streets, however.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkOHE_qkFvQ

Annoying white American man has nevertheless done his research and worked with Egyptians in trying to pull the entire Egyptian situation with history into less than 8 minutes. Worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2UxZD5m8w
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