The next big NSA leak, what will it be?

[NeonLX]

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[NeonLX]

Hey Alchemy, I'm a real fan of old autos as well. I grew up working on cars, trucks and tractors on the farm. Not a day went by that we weren't monkeying around under the hood of something.

I remember with my old AMCs, Plymouths and other assorted vehicles that I could pull the carburetor off, rebuild it, put it back on the manifold, and be up & running in 45 minutes or less. I took great pride in keeping all of my cars in tip-top shape and in a fine state of tune.

Our current car is an '07. I don't even change oil or sparkplugs in it. It's got 103,000 miles on it but still doesn't use oil, so the metallurgy used in engines has certainly improved.

I found an old 1976 mail delivery Jeep a few days ago. Runs great and minimal rust. It has a very simple AMC inline six under the hood, same as in my old AMCs. Everything is simple on it, including the suspension and drivetrain. I'm really tempted to buy it just to have a "simple" and practical hauler around.

I'm lucky that I can use public transport to and from work every day; don't need to drive the car. I don't think I've driven to work more than 5 times in the last two years, and that was only because of appointments or whatev. I can also walk or bike to a grocery store and a hardware store, as well as the library so I consider myself fortunate indeed.

Here's the old Jeep I found:

[Canadian_watcher]

i am officially envious of the vehicles mentioned herein.
and I don't envy often. If I had a time machine I would go back and take auto shop rather than stupid stupid drafting. what was I thinking???

[Hunter]

Oh you got to be KIDDING ME, that old mail jeep is actually one of my dream cars (tells you how weird I am) I have always wanted one of those, hard to find in nice shape like that! WOW that is a real gem man, I grew up the same way, me dad and the brothers and even our sisters were always under the hood or something or building gocarts or sand rails, I still pretty much spend a lot of my free time doing the same thing and I get a lot of enjoyment out of it. That is the nice thing about the older cars, anything before 1980, if you are handy, you can pretty much fix anything on them yourself, real basic stuff, my 72 truck has a 350 and you still would not believe how much space there is to work, you can get to anything real easy without the need to take off 200 different things to get to waterpump or starter for example, so it makes it more fun as opposed to a burden. I dont think I would drive a new car even if I had the money to just blow, ok well thats probably a lie, I wouldnt mind a nice new BMW or something classy but I do have an older BMW, 1970 and it is a blast to drive and work on but that is about as fancy as I have, I mostly like older chevy trucks and old chevy and ford VANS, my prized possession is my 1962 chevy van, it looks like the mystery machine from scooby doo, not painted like that but the same style, that thing is a blast and it turns a lot of heads, just an absolute joy to drive! I will likely never part with that van it has been in the family since new in 62 and I have completely redone it and cherried it out, the nice thing about living in Arizona is there is no rust issues at all, the bodies in old cars you find here are as good as new, of the course the sun rots the fuck out of the inside but that is easy to restore with some nice leather seats. Great to hear another old car enthusiast out there, it has to be in your blood and part of your youth to really learn and grow up appreciating just how nice it is to drive those vintage vehicles that were made so sturdy and strong yet they are so simple at the same time.


I really really want to get that mail van you got, maybe I will start actively looking for one, I bet they show up on craigslist now and then, it is a tie between one of those and one of those original US military jeeps that they used in Korea, you see them on the TV show MASH, those things are super cool and very very similar to that mail jeep. How much they want for that thing and where you located if you dont mind me asking. You really should buy it if the price is right and it wont set you back too much, you will always get your money back reselling it, those things are in high demand by certain groups of people, not everyone but there are guys who would kill for one of those. Gotta be somewhere without a lot of snow and salted roads because that body looks real good. Those things are simple and easy to work on they go real fast but who cares its a nice slow cruising machine.

[Luther Blissett]

Perhaps a full list of the members of the media in the full-time employ of the CIA.

Ooooh that would be juicy, I dont know when the CIA took control of the media but they did it and have it now, they very likely have a few plants in high places like editors and the guys who write the talking points and decide what stories will be covered and which will not be and how those stories will be spun etc. I am pretty sure they likely recruit young journalists at the prestigious universities and plant them in the positions needed and let them work their way up while being handled all the way through. I have zero doubt at all that the cia controls the us media top and bottom, right and left, liberal and conservative, such a statement used to get you laughed at but not anymore, everyone knows it now.

It's difficult to get norms and regs to care about the size or scope of American intelligence agencies. They just don't have the institutional knowledge or access to years of research that most here do and still tend to think in action movie terms. I can't get my friends to give even a cursory thought to Operation Mockingbird. They just think the subject is blown way out of proportion and represents a small sidebar, not an umbrella. If this were the revelation, it would be huge, but not enough to inspire a revolution.

[Brigit]

SLAD

I hope it's all the dossiers that the NSA has on all the military, senators, congressmen and the presidents..... talk about blackmail and who's really running the show

or maybe it's a list of categories that NSA has put us all into


like what's done with raw meat...

Oo, yes! And the Cartelligences maybe are holding one another a cyber-bomb away and keeping their cast of characters (the ones SLAD mentioned) hostage with their super arsenal consisting of every little naughty act committed. This is multidimensional warfare playing out on the World Theater, and feels to me like the first major battle at this scale of transparency, however small the field. I can only imagine the disenchantment and fear of the kids caught in the labyrinth who are awake, aware, moral and brilliant enough to realize they are in a life-changing bind. Kids have been aggressively recruited and assigned according to their GLobal-Cyber-Rating.

[bks]

From Greenwald today. Links at original:

The vast majority of the GuardianUS's revelations thus far have concerned NSA domestic spying: the bulk collection of telephone records, the PRISM program, Obama's presidential directive that authorizes domestic use of cyber-operations, the Boundless Informant data detailing billions of records collected from US systems, the serial falsehoods publicly voiced by top Obama officials about the NSA's surveillance schemes, and most recently, the bulk collection of email and internet metadata records for Americans. Future stories in the GuardianUS will largely continue to focus on the NSA's domestic spying. Future stories in the GuardianUS will largely continue to focus on the NSA's domestic spying.

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/07/07-1

Perhaps a hint there.

[DrEvil]

Would love to hear something about government sock-puppetry and opinion shaping / black propaganda.

Completely unrelated, but the brain/computer interface thing could be used to pit your willpower against someone else. Two people - one green blob on the screen. Whoever moves it to the opposite side wins.

Also, cars:

[justdrew]

the machines are listening (and understanding)

[The Consul]

Toiletcams.


But seriously...I imagine evidence of survellance of a non muslim in state american with little to no probable cause....

Something that will throw that whole if you aint doing nothing wrong y'all got nothing to worry about out the window.

Like some Snowden level person using it to spy on his ex wife.

[seemslikeadream]

I hope it's all the dossiers that the NSA has on all the military, senators, congressmen and the presidents..... talk about blackmail and who's really running the show

or maybe it's a list of categories that NSA has put us all into


like what's done with raw meat...

NSA Blackmailing Obama? | Interview with Whistleblower Russ Tice


Published on Jul 9, 2013

Abby Martin talks to Russell Tice, former intelligence analyst and original NSA whistleblower, about how the recent NSA scandal is only scratches the surface of a massive surveillance apparatus, citing specific targets the he saw spying orders for including former senators Hilary Clinton and Barack Obama.