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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Sat Jul 27, 2013 2:54 pm

8bitagent » 27 Jul 2013 16:59 wrote:Interesting. THIS is the pizza footage? You can barely see anything. How was that guy so sure the car hit a sprinkler and that's what causes the pre explosion?

Yep, I see it at 15 second mark

Hastings' family has told Rolling Stone that they do not believe he was assassinated. "I don't believe it's a conspiracy," his brother Jeff Hastings said. "There's no part of me that's troubled by that."


Just like Teddy believing Bobby and Jack weren't done in by a conspiracy. Well they are the family, it is their right to think nothing of these things


This makes me want to see footage from closer to the impact site. Also wonder if the original video is higher rez. The final explosion/s are epic.

If the family indeed thought this was foul play, they'd be smart to play dumb for at least two reasons I can think of: you can find out more if people think you aren't looking, plus they might feel threatened.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby slimmouse » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:28 pm

If the family indeed thought this was foul play, they'd be smart to play dumb for at least two reasons I can think of: you can find out more if people think you aren't looking, plus they might feel threatened.


Regrettably this begs an obvious question. How exactly do you conduct any kind of investigation these days 'under the radar', so to speak?

You can play dumb all you like but it won't make much difference surely.

The safest way is to tell as many people close to you as you can exactly what youre doing and why.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby psynapz » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:16 pm

8bitagent wrote:Yep, I see it at 15 second mark

I think it looks like the brake lights. Seems logical he'd make one last futile attempt to stomp on the brake pedal in the face of imminent impact. The brake hack wouldn't necessarily affect the brake lights, which may get activated upstream of the vulnerability under exploit, like in a pure electromechanical light switch operated in parallel to the braking controller by the pedal. Or something...
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:24 pm

Here's a blog post from the pizza place video guy. The video he has at this URL is much better quality than the LA Weekly one that I downloaded.

Interesting reflections on his notoriety. If he's the only person investigating this, woe be to those who hope for the story to be told. He seems a little distracted and self-involved.


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http://krikorianwrites.com/blog/2013/7/26/michael-hastings-crash

Michael Hastings Crash
July 26, 2013

July 26, 2013

The last time I had something that other people wanted badly, other than a woman, was in 1965 at Denker Avenue Elementary School on 162nd Street in Gardena. What they wanted, even for just a few minutes, was my new red Schwinn String-Ray. The shockingly styled, wheelie-friendly Sting Ray had come out two years earlier and I was one of only two boys at our school to have one. The tough and cool kids in the half-grade above mine chummed up to me. I don’t even know what the modern day equivalent of owning that bike would be today. Maybe the first kid at school with an IPhone 6.

Once again, I have something that a lot of people want. It’s a video of Michael Hastings’ fatal car crash. It’s not really mine, like that Sting-Ray was, but I have it. It’s a security video from my girlfriend’s restaurant. And since she said to make it public, I soon will.

Here’s the background on this video and the clamoring to get it.

On the morning of June 18, Nancy Silverton and I walked to her restaurant on the corner of Highland and Melrose in Los Angeles to get my car which I had left there the night before.

As we approached the corner from the east, we saw yellow crime scene tape up and, about 130 yards south on Highland, a mangled car being pulled onto a flatbed tow truck. A LAPD West Traffic Bureau officer told us someone had crashed into a tree and died. I told him restaurant’s security camera may have captured the early morning crash. It had. The pizzeria manager showed up and we watched the video. Damn, what an explosion. A fireball what it was. A copy was made for the LAPD. I went on my way.

Hours later, I found out that the dead guy was Michael Hastings.

Then, I was contacted by Russ Baker,( the highly regarded author of "Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty...") from “whowhatwhy.com”, an investigative journalism website I had never heard of, not that I know jack about websites. Someone he knew had suggested I would be a good reporter to look into the crash of Hastings. At that point, they didn’t even know about the video.

First, I e-mailed Jill Stewart, managing editor of the L.A. Weekly who I have done many Watts-related stories for over the years, and told her what I had seen. She didn’t get back to me. So, I wrote the piece for whowhatwhy with an nano-second by nano-second description of the video, sending it on July 4th, then left for Istanbul and then Umbria, where I am still.

A couple days after it ran, which was not until July 14, I was contacted by the editor of my article, the respected journalist David J. Krajicek, who said that the social media response had been intense and they were all clamoring to see the video. I had been surprised that whowhatwhy hadn’t initially asked about the video themselves before the social media splash. I’m not talking virile, but 3,600 hits as of today, which I guess is a decent number for that website. (Note- It was a lot for my “social” self, my previous record being 75 “likes” of a photo of Nancy wearing blue jeans on a Vespa that I had posted on Facebook.)

But, for a variety of reasons, I didn’t hand it over.

The video, meanwhile, was making the rounds at the LAPD. Homicide detectives I knew had seen it. Bomb squad guys had. West Traffic for sure. Many copies existed. Several people at Nancy’s restaurant had it. I wasn’t the only one with the video.

But, what should I do with it? Money crossed my mind, then did a u-turn and parked. TMZ. My friend, a former executive producer at CBS News had a direct line to one of the young reporters he trained, Harvey Levine. That TMZ guy. This video here sould be worth an easy $10,000. That's a lot of extra cash.

Hell, I could spend ornately on Nancy on our vacation. Why else does one need extra cash, anyway, but to lavish on a girl?

Shamefully, I reckoned when it was released, I could claim someone else had released it. The LAPD had a hundred copies. Yeah, I considered that. If a man can be blasted for his thoughts, so be it. Start blasting. But, if you gonna blast me for my all my thoughts, you best own a Katyusha factory near Kursk.

But, I guess, on my behalf, I only briefly considered it. I told Nancy about it. She said “That’s not a good way to make money and it’s not yours anyway. It’s mine. Just release it. Don’t sell it. That’s sleazy.”

She was right. I thought about what Omar told Stringer, “This ain’t about your money, bro.”

And in the end, I thought about Michael Hastings. Making money that way on his death did seem, no, not “seem”, it was sleazy.

Nancy asked me if I was gong to send it to that whowhatwhy. I might have, but they sent an email urging me to give it to them that concluded with “We can toss you a small check for the trouble”. I was paid $200 for the original article I did for them. They got a superb deal. What? They were gonna “toss” me a $40 check for a video that every major news station in America would play and give them credit. That would get 100,000 hits. They eliminated themselves with that insulting throw-a-way line. I’m going to Osteria Francescana in Modena next week. Forty bucks, about 30 euros, wouldn’t get me a half cup a soup.

Some guy, Rob, with a website based somewhere in Europe e-mailed me on July 24 with, I guess, his version of a threat, saying he would publish a full critique of me if I didn’t release the video in six hours. Once you’ve been threatened by Big Evil, threats from most others don’t have much sting. I quickly emailed back “As Michael Hastings would probably say, I could give a fuck what you think.. And you can quote me on that.”

Sarah Fenske, editor at the LA Weekly, sent me a email saying they had not realized what video I was talking about when I sent Jill that email a month plus ago. She did it with some class. So, I decided they’d get the heads up when it came on this site. I was gonna just e-mail it to her blind, thinking that maybe putting it up here first would too seem self promoting. Maybe it is. Like, “Hey, here’s my sight.”. (A site without a copy editor). But, since I only know about 15 people - my sister, my nephew and some friends - who read this, I decided to put it here and give the Weekly, and a friend, a heads up. Let them put it out. That is, if they read the e-mail I’m gonna send.

An hour ago, Nancy asked me “When are you finally gonna put that video out.?” I tried to explain that the video is on my phone that doesn’t work in Europe. It’s not as easy as it seems, especially for a low-tech person. She didn’t buy that. “Just push a button and put it out.”
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby justdrew » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:40 pm

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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:51 pm

psynapz » 27 Jul 2013 20:16 wrote:
8bitagent wrote:Yep, I see it at 15 second mark

I think it looks like the brake lights. Seems logical he'd make one last futile attempt to stomp on the brake pedal in the face of imminent impact. The brake hack wouldn't necessarily affect the brake lights, which may get activated upstream of the vulnerability under exploit, like in a pure electromechanical light switch operated in parallel to the braking controller by the pedal. Or something...


Yes, that would make sense in the absence of another narrative. But there's this witness who says there were "plenty" of "sparks" and that the car "bounced" right before it accelerated and exploded.


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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:57 pm

slimmouse » 27 Jul 2013 19:28 wrote:
If the family indeed thought this was foul play, they'd be smart to play dumb for at least two reasons I can think of: you can find out more if people think you aren't looking, plus they might feel threatened.


Regrettably this begs an obvious question. How exactly do you conduct any kind of investigation these days 'under the radar', so to speak?

You can play dumb all you like but it won't make much difference surely.

The safest way is to tell as many people close to you as you can exactly what youre doing and why.




From what I can recall from my publishing days, investigative journalism is a dish best served quietly and in the dark.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Forgetting2 » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:35 pm

Framing thru it a few times, the pre flash before the crash doesn't appear to me to be coming from the tail lights. You can follow the tail lights all the way down the street and watch where the extra light appears to emanate from, just prior to the crash.

Just after the preliminary small flash, the car lights all go dark for about 7 frames, possibly coincident with the car's impact on the tree. Perhaps the engine was torn out at that moment. The car doesn't appear to be moving forward durning those 7 frames. Hard to tell exactly how big the explosion was with the overexposure on the video, but it looks big. I wonder if a video forensics person could tell where the explosion originates. To me it doesn't look like the rear of the car, as I think I can see the light of the explosion engulf the rear of the car.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby barracuda » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:20 pm

I feel sad and ghoulish watching that little snippet over and over. And I have to say, I'm not getting much. The car does appear to bounce coming through Melrose - if you watch the headlights play on the street and the façade of the pizzeria, the beams increase gradually in intensity up to about 0:12 and then at ~0:13 there's a noticeable flicker as the beams are forced down when the shocks compress. At 0:14 the rear of the car fishtails sharply counterclockwise, swinging out towards the passenger side, and it's crossed up and out of control.

Different people might react differently, but when my brakes don't respond well or lose pressure and floorboard, I'm stabbing the fuck out out them or locking out the knee joints of both legs on that pedal trying to get a pump. I think the first small flash is the undercarriage taking out the sprinkler's RP valve. But just after that lower flash, there's a brief double light that flickers once. Brakes? Dunno, but that might be what we're seeing, he'd have to at least try to stop at that point. But hitting the brakes when you've left the road and not before is a possible tell that he was engaged in purposeful speeding.

Once Hastings impacts, it appears to take a moment before the immolation flares up. At 0:15 - :16 there's a hesitation before the flame ball generates. To me, it doesn't look like a typical bomb blast occurring. Could be the aerated gas igniting, then spreading rapidly to the supply.

It's all interpretation of the blur at this point. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby justdrew » Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:49 pm

I went to the guy's blog and download the source "vid" file.

It's just an AVC quicktime video, from an iPhone 4s. It appears they couldn't download the REAL source video from the security system, so he shot a video of a computer screen playing it back.

Here's media info on the source:
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 523 KiB
Duration : 26s 137ms
Overall bit rate : 164 Kbps
Recorded date : 2013-06-18T18:47:52-0700
Encoded date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:49:49
Tagged date : UTC 2013-07-27 22:47:10

Writing application : 6.1.3
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
Make : Apple
©xyz : +34.0833-118.3391+068.000/ here
Model : iPhone 4S

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L1.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 26s 137ms
Source duration : 26s 200ms
Bit rate : 136 Kbps
Width : 224 pixels
Height : 128 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Rotation : 180°
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 15.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.317
Stream size : 435 KiB (83%)
Source stream size : 436 KiB (83%)
Title : Core Media Video
Encoded date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:49:49
Tagged date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:50:00




Something I just noticed... The car had just successfully navigated through the division of Highland a block back...
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:51 am

justdrew » 27 Jul 2013 23:49 wrote:I went to the guy's blog and download the source "vid" file.

It's just an AVC quicktime video, from an iPhone 4s. It appears they couldn't download the REAL source video from the security system, so he shot a video of a computer screen playing it back.

Here's media info on the source:
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : QuickTime
Codec ID : qt
File size : 523 KiB
Duration : 26s 137ms
Overall bit rate : 164 Kbps
Recorded date : 2013-06-18T18:47:52-0700
Encoded date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:49:49
Tagged date : UTC 2013-07-27 22:47:10

Writing application : 6.1.3
Writing library : Apple QuickTime
Make : Apple
©xyz : +34.0833-118.3391+068.000/ here
Model : iPhone 4S

Video
ID : 2
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L1.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 26s 137ms
Source duration : 26s 200ms
Bit rate : 136 Kbps
Width : 224 pixels
Height : 128 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Rotation : 180°
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 15.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.317
Stream size : 435 KiB (83%)
Source stream size : 436 KiB (83%)
Title : Core Media Video
Encoded date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:49:49
Tagged date : UTC 2013-06-19 01:50:00




Something I just noticed... The car had just successfully navigated through the division of Highland a block back...



good catch. so, we can assume that there's higher rez video that exists.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby nashvillebrook » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:00 am

justdrew » 27 Jul 2013 23:49 wrote:
Something I just noticed... The car had just successfully navigated through the division of Highland a block back...
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The witness in TYT video says that he started to lose control at the Melrose intersection. But...this video doesn't seem to show an out of control car until the fishtailing. Maybe he's referring to the speed?
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby fruhmenschen » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:41 pm

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http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/ethan-c ... s-murdered

Was journalist Michael Hastings murdered?

July 28, 2013



I think sometimes some journalists forget what their job is. If you're choosing not to investigate something because you're worried you might look silly, or be made fun of, you're doing it wrong.

I have no idea what happened to Michael Hastings, and it's certainly both possible and reasonable that his accident was solely due to his own error or a mechanical fault. In fact, that's probably the most likely explanation.

However, there are a number of confounding facts that cast doubt upon that explanation, and demand further investigation. The fact that most journalists are afraid to even raise these very legitimate questions, for fear of being branded some sort of "conspiracy-nut" is a sad and terrifying testament to the state of journalism.

Let's recap.

A journalist, with a history of taking down major figures and royally pissing off the powers that be, sends an email to his editors warning them that federal agents have been interviewing his associates and that he has to go off-radar to finish a big story.

What was the big story? For some reason the subject line of the email, which read "FBI investigation, re: NSA" has been persistently ignored. It certainly seems to suggest that his "big story" was related to the National Security Agency.

Shortly thereafter he dies in a fiery car crash. This crash is swiftly ruled an accident, however there are no skid marks to indicate braking, and video appears to show his car exploding into a fireball BEFORE it leaves the road.

Meanwhile former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard Clarke goes public with the assertion that what we know about Hastings' crash is "consistent with a car cyber attack."

"There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers," including the U.S., can remotely seize control of a car.

"What has been revealed as a result of some research at universities is that it's relatively easy to hack your way into the control system of a car, and to do such things as cause acceleration when the driver doesn't want acceleration, to throw on the brakes when the driver doesn't want the brakes on, to launch an air bag," Clarke told The Huffington Post. "You can do some really highly destructive things now, through hacking a car, and it's not that hard."

"So if there were a cyber attack on the car -- and I'm not saying there was, I think whoever did it would probably get away with it."

In fact, Hastings' model of car is sold with the advertised feature that it can be remotely disabled.

Could Hastings have been over-tired, drunk, stressed or otherwise incapacitated? Sure.

But this video appears to confirm the testimony of witnesses who reported hearing the car explode BEFORE going off the road. Could that have been caused by a spectacular mechanical failure? Sure. But it would be a wildly rare fault, given that exploding into a fireball isn't something that happens to cars often, if at all. In fact, cars are designed not to explode, even in cases of catastrophic collision, and contrary to what Hollywood would have us believe, the incidence of cars exploding in accidents is negligible.

It also bears mentioning that most of Hastings' colleagues, friends and family have made clear, albeit some more explicitly than others, that they don't believe the official explanation for his death and suspect foul play.

I could go on, but you get the point. Hastings death might have been an accident, but it also might have been murder. There is ample enough evidence to assert that he died in suspicious circumstances.

Clarke, who worked for the State Department under Reagan and ran counterterrorism activities for Presidents George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, and was also a special advisor to Dubya on issues of cyberterrorism, isn't afraid to ask these questions.

"I'm not a conspiracy guy. In fact, I've spent most of my life knocking down conspiracy theories," said Clarke, again to the Huffington Post. "But my rule has always been you don't knock down a conspiracy theory until you can prove it [wrong]. And in the case of Michael Hastings, what evidence is available publicly is consistent with a car cyber attack. And the problem with that is you can't prove it. I think you'd probably need the very best of the U.S. government intelligence or law enforcement officials to discover it."

So if the circumstances of his death are suspicious, don't we owe it to Michael to ask those questions? Is anyone really suggesting that murdering a journalist is totally outside the realm of possibility? That no cover-up would ever go so far as to murder someone?

If you believe he couldn't have been murdered, that it isn't possible, then may I humbly suggest you need to revise your estimation of who precisely is living in fantasy land.

I never met Michael, but I wish I had. By all accounts he was a shooting star. But more than that, he was one of us. If a cop dies, his colleagues don't rest until his death is satisfactorily explained, and any guilty parties apprehended. If a journalist dies, evidently, most journalists keep their mouths shut and don't ask questions for fear of being branded a conspiracy-nut. Fan-fucking-tastic.
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Re: Journalist Michael Hastings is dead at 33

Postby Forgetting2 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:55 pm

The Krikorian blog post with the video is now gone. We'll see if it comes back...

http://krikorianwrites.com/blog/2013/7/ ... ings-crash

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