True Detective on HBO

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Postby IanEye » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:36 pm

Hunter » Thu Apr 24, 2014 10:56 am wrote:Those damn tricksters.


"dark side of the moon", indeed.


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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby elfismiles » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:16 pm

Creepy "True Detective" graffiti materializes around London
Greg Newkirk / 09 June, 2014

The Yellow King lives! Some spooky new graffiti straight out of True Detective mysteriously appeared on a wall in Kentish Town, London over the weekend, but who painted it, and why?

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Ripped straight from HBO's amazing series about Louisiana detectives embroiled in an occult mystery, the image shows a nude woman with antlers juxtaposed next to a creepy bible verse about becoming clean. The image popped up on a wall near a construction site off Weedington Road, but it freaked out locals so much that it didn't last very long.

So, who painted the graffiti and for what purpose? Is a copycat killer on the loose? While the appearance of the painting seems ominous, you can probably rest easy, as it "coincidentally" popped up on the day of True Detective's Blu-Ray release.

While the image might have been whitewashed, you can still walk in the steps of the Yellow King by visiting True Detective's most iconic filming locations, including the mysterious Carcosa. Check out the whole True Detective trip here!

https://roadtrippers.com/blog/creepy-tr ... und-london
https://roadtrippers.com/blog/take-this ... -louisiana
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby Hunter » Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:23 pm

That depiction from the show is truly one of the creepiest things I have ever seem, the set person who dreamed that up has a twisted imagination for sure.
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby Project Willow » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:22 am

I finally got around to it. I was bored until midway through. Fairly well done bro flick, with some good writing and acting. Same old fantasy tropes of masculinity with some refreshing subtleties thrown in. I kept hearing a writer instead of McConnehy. Wish they'd used real cult symbolism. RA as plot device, eh, at least it wasn't denialist.
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby Zombie Glenn Beck » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:23 am

barracuda wrote:The path from RI moderator to True Blood fangirl to Jehovah's Witness seems pretty straightforward to me. Perhaps even inevitable.
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby Jerky » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:27 am

Good catch. Although I think this was mentioned here before? I'm not finding it in this thread. But I definitely recognize that symbol (the "little girl lovers" symbol is a small heart in a bigger heart, by contrast, and I think both symbols were brought up earlier in a JBRamsay or the UK/Portuguese kidnap.murder victim thread).

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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby brekin » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:53 pm

Wow, the deleted scene in True Detective that explains everything. *



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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby redsock » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:49 pm

Scanning through this thread quickly, I did not see any mention of Ligotti:

DID THE WRITER OF “TRUE DETECTIVE” PLAGIARIZE THOMAS LIGOTTI AND OTHERS?

Like many fans of weird fiction, I was overjoyed to discover HBO’s True Detective. But as the season progressed, I became increasingly uneasy. It seemed to me that True Detective writer Nic Pizzolatto was “borrowing” words and phrasing from other authors, especially Thomas Ligotti. Recently, I expressed my concerns on one of the Lovecraft eZine video shows and was then contacted by Jon Padgett, the founder of the website Thomas Ligotti Online.

I’d done a little research to satisfy my curiosity, but Jon had done a lot… and the results of that research were disturbing.


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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby elfismiles » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:20 pm

Well, try the RI-site's search function... Luther Blissett, Laodicean, and divideandconquer, all commented on Ligotti in this thread.

Meanwhile, I started a whole other thread on Ligotti here back in August:

Conspiracy Against the Human Race by Thomas Ligotti
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redsock » 31 Oct 2014 19:49 wrote:Scanning through this thread quickly, I did not see any mention of Ligotti:

DID THE WRITER OF “TRUE DETECTIVE” PLAGIARIZE THOMAS LIGOTTI AND OTHERS?

Like many fans of weird fiction, I was overjoyed to discover HBO’s True Detective. But as the season progressed, I became increasingly uneasy. It seemed to me that True Detective writer Nic Pizzolatto was “borrowing” words and phrasing from other authors, especially Thomas Ligotti. Recently, I expressed my concerns on one of the Lovecraft eZine video shows and was then contacted by Jon Padgett, the founder of the website Thomas Ligotti Online.

I’d done a little research to satisfy my curiosity, but Jon had done a lot… and the results of that research were disturbing.


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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:22 pm

It was discussed here, but perhaps more importantly, also something that Pizzolatto admits to cheerfully when asked about it.

He's very upfront about the debt Kohle's character owes to The Conspiracy Against the Human Race (which is a superb book).

Lovecraft fans are desperate for a relevant controversy other than "WAS OUR LITERARY HERO A RABIDLY VENOMOUS RACIST?" so I quite understand why they're keen to frame this as "plagarism" they've bravely exposed.

Even when those stories first started popping up in August, Pizzolatto was on record dozens of times over giving props to his source material, and has been at great pains to spotlight contemporary influences rather than just thanking Chambers & Bierce.
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby BrandonD » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:49 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:22 pm wrote:Lovecraft fans are desperate for a relevant controversy other than "WAS OUR LITERARY HERO A RABIDLY VENOMOUS RACIST?"


From our modern perspective, wasn't nearly everyone back then a rabidly venomous racist?
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:04 pm

BrandonD » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:49 pm wrote:
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:22 pm wrote:Lovecraft fans are desperate for a relevant controversy other than "WAS OUR LITERARY HERO A RABIDLY VENOMOUS RACIST?"


From our modern perspective, wasn't nearly everyone back then a rabidly venomous racist?


No. Fuck no. There's countless thousands of examples of his contemporaries, and predecessors, making better decisions using the same equipment.
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby BrandonD » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:41 pm

Wombaticus Rex » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:04 pm wrote:
BrandonD » Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:49 pm wrote:
Wombaticus Rex » Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:22 pm wrote:Lovecraft fans are desperate for a relevant controversy other than "WAS OUR LITERARY HERO A RABIDLY VENOMOUS RACIST?"


From our modern perspective, wasn't nearly everyone back then a rabidly venomous racist?


No. Fuck no. There's countless thousands of examples of his contemporaries, and predecessors, making better decisions using the same equipment.


I was being facetious. Kinda. I'm no defender of Lovecraft, I don't know a single thing about his personal life.

People tend to go along with the attitudes and beliefs of the culture they find themselves in.

Earlier western culture was more openly racist, even just a few decades ago. Watch 60s and 70s movies and TV, it's pretty obvious.

So it's a safe bet that earlier cultures which allowed more overt racism contained more racist people.
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby Jerky » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:50 am

My oh my, what dainty, saintly company I find myself in, here, where even so humble a personage as the late, great H.P. Lovecraft - who went all but unrecognized in his lifetime and died a pauper - can angry up the "anti-fascist" blood, set the hens to cluck-cluck-clucking, and cause a veritable sewer-gush of politically correct hand-wringing and back slapping from you holy, blameless creatures.

Pardon me while I never stop throwing up at you smug, condescending fuckwits.

Sincerely,
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Re: True Detective on HBO

Postby fruhmenschen » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:46 am

This just in from the Necrominocon
Whisper Stream....


Why Andrew Vachss' Burke won't appear on HBO - YouTube
Video for vachss hbo► 2:13► 2:13
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtdQwrbYcjM
Feb 18, 2009 - Uploaded by Andrew Vachss
In this excerpt from the Family of Choice webcast (01/14/2009), author and children's attorney ...




Andrew Vachss had been in negotiations
with HBO .HBO wanted to produce
his Burke series of novels where an ex-con
goes after pedophiles with a similar vengeance
expressed by Detective Rust Cohl in True Detective.
HBO then goes on to make True Detective
conspicuously leaving a copy of Alice Vachss
book on top of criminology books in Rust Cohle's bare apartment.
see.

http://www.protect.org/hbo-gets-it-right



HBO Features Top Expert from PROTECT, Weiss Center
January 14, 2014
When HBO needed to establish in the opening minutes of its new series, True Detective, that Rust Cohle knows his way around sex crimes, where did it turn? To the work of Protector and Weiss Center trainer Alice Vachss.
HBOsexCrimes2The show premiered Sunday to an audience of 2.3 million. Billed as one of HBO's biggest new series in years, True Detective stars Woody Harrelson (Det. Martin Hart) and Matthew McConaughey (Det. Rust Cohle). In the first few minutes of episode one, the duo visits Cohle's apartment, where Hart realizes his new partner might not be any ordinary Louisiana cop. Exhibit A: a pile of serious reading, topped by Vachss' landmark book, Sex Crimes.
Whatever else turns out to be true about Louisiana detective Rust Cohle, he clearly knows his subject matter.
Alice V - hands up copyAnd so does HBO. Vachss’ book is so important in the field of sex crimes and child protection, it is required reading at PROTECT's Weiss Center training for the H.E.R.O. Child-Rescue Corps. And Vachss, the former chief of New York’s first special victims bureau—famously called "a woman who drinks blood for breakfast" by a defense attorney—is a key instructor for the Weiss Center, teaching new recruits how sex crimes prosecution really operates and how ethical investigators and forensic examiners should approach their work.
At PROTECT, we can't say enough good about "Sex Crimes." A former New York Times notable book of the year, Alice's chronicle of her tenure as a pioneering and fearless prosecutor features a subtitle that alerts the reader just how blunt and uncompromising it will be: "Ten Years on the Front Lines Prosecuting Rapists and Confronting Their Collaborators."

go figure, eh?
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