Soros Open Society + "Anti-fascists" = Globalist propaganda

[Sounder]

Thanks stefano, dodger and searcher


I don’t mind AD so much anymore, because in my opinion he represents a lurid kind of thinking that may help others to develop discrimination.

He would have to be a social moron to not see his negative relationship to this space. He is not a moron, so something else is going on.

My guess is that AD knows, along with all your top flight PR firms, that focusing on ‘people’ generates a lower level of mental functioning, gossip really, than does analyzing events, or higher yet (perish the thought), entering into the world of ideas.

AD will not change because he is achieving his objective.

[American Dream]

I don't support the far right shit, that is a fact. Jeff Well's critique of pernicious propaganda along those lines definitely struck a chord with me and that is a big, big reason why I came here in the first place. The prohibitions he placed on that sort of evil nonsense are the biggest reason I stayed.

I laid out my general views on this very clearly in the Towards Rigorous & Radical Conspiracy Theory thread:

It is a passion of mine to investigate and expose real conspiracies through investigations that can be backed by strong evidence, investigations that have the potential to seriously benefit our lives through significantly advancing our collective liberation. I think there is great power in researchers with shared values and shared interests working together on shared goals.

Fundamental to this process is a solid critique of White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism, Homophobia and all the other "isms". Folks that I can think of that are veering in this direction include Tom Burghardt, Peter Dale Scott, Jeffrey Kaye, maybe Robin Ramsay (I never subscribed to Lobster)- and perhaps others, too.

Given the criticism of "conspiracy theories" by structuralist-oriented leftists such as Noam Chomsky, who write it all off due to an overblown "Right Woos Left" kind of thesis, I think we need to develop Conspiracy Theory (with a capital "T") that is solidly anti-fascist, anti-racist, anti-authoritarian, anti-misogynist and also intelligently thought out.

[Belligerent Savant]

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It is a passion of mine to investigate and expose real conspiracies through investigations

Read: browsing the web.

that can be backed by strong evidence

Read: web links.

investigations

web browsing

that have the potential to seriously benefit our lives through significantly advancing our collective liberation.

...by utilizing an ISP connection to browse the web and copy/pasting entire articles seemingly ad ifinitum within a niche forum that has yet to display an inkling of the 'far right/nazi' tendencies perceived to be such a threat to "liberation", a forum whose total membership (and lurker) count registers less than a negligible representation of a tiny hamlet.
If we are to temporary step outside of reality for a moment and presume that ANY of AD's postings has affected any sort of "liberation", we sure as hell haven't observed it out there in the wild yet, have we?
Please correct me if otherwise.

Of course, the "big" presumption here is that AD has only been conducting such "investigations" within the confines of this board -- or even the confines of the worldwide interweb. It may very well be that he is actively engaging the meatspace -- the
non-internet based reality -- with this passion of his, spawning grassroots initiatives and inspiring others to likewise SPREAD THE MESSAGE OF LIBERATION.

Indeed, it surely must be ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE BEGIN TO HEAR ABOUT IT outside the confines of this FORUM.

I for one can't wait.

Can't wait.

Can't wait to be liberated.

LIBERATE ME, AD.

[coffin_dodger]

American Dream said:

Fundamental to this process is a solid critique of White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism, Homophobia and all the other "isms"

Erm...is not anti-fascism by definition... an 'ism'?

[American Dream]

American Dream said:

Fundamental to this process is a solid critique of White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism, Homophobia and all the other "isms"

Erm...is not anti-fascism by definition... an 'ism'?

Anti-Fascism I see very much as a good, White Supremacy, Patriarchy, Capitalism, Homophobia, etc. as key parts of the problem which is fucking up all our lives.

[RocketMan]

What is it with this constant slamming of American Dream? I just don't get it. Anyone?

I've been here for years now and I've never quite understood why.

[coffin_dodger]

What is it with this constant slamming of American Dream? I just don't get it. Anyone?

I've been here for years now and I've never quite understood why.

Then it's probably for the best if you stay out of it.

[coffin_dodger]

Just one more try, AD, to understand the recent change in nuance of your stance:

from here: http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=38690&p=559065#p559065

AD said:

This is more in line with my own political beliefs, but I don't believe that everyone here whole-heartedly shares these sentiments:

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE DENVER PATRIOT COMMUNITY
<snip>
"The world is divided between rich and poor. Those who control property relationships, and those that work to maintain those property relationships."

"I would argue that the rich are not made up of any one demographic. They are made up of those that have exploited the rest of us for centuries. You call them Jews. I call them bosses, politicians, and the ruling elite."

"If anything, the ruling class created a buffer middle class and managerial class of Jewish people over the last several centuries, so that we, as working people, would fight the Jews, not the real people pulling the strings and controlling our lives..."

"I understand your want to do something, to confront the people who are merely parasites who ruin the lives of the vast majority of us...

This is another false dichotemy...right?

[American Dream]

So what specifically are you claiming to be the recent (and nefarious?) change in the nuance of my stance? From what to what- and in service of what agenda?

[seemslikeadream]

you used to like Counter Punch

you used like John Pilger

[coffin_dodger]

I'm not engaging in your merry-go-round narrative of copyandpasting the thoughts and ideals of others, quiet insinuations and the blocking any questions raised with the Shield of Righteous Indignation. The Shield of RI - how appropriate.

I've made it as clear as I can and await the imminent msm manouvers to find a suitable alternate 'elite' scapegoat, now that the 'elites are in charge' cat is out of the bag. Thanks for the heads-up.

[Searcher08]

I don't support the far right shit, that is a fact.

You demonstrate an extremely unhealthy obsession with it, are deeply triggered by it and are evidently fascinated / repulsed by it. Short of you being an Aspie / Spectrum person who may have been physically bullied / attacked by neo-Nazis, in which case all of this is a demonstration of a need to acknowledge and heal and achieve closure, I would say that your actions are the very MODEL of support for the Far Right.
You see yourself as a firefighter, but you are putting the 'gasoline' of a stridently divisive monomania through your firehose.
You are behaving in the same obsessional fashion that Charles 'TIDS' Carreon did around The Oatmeal.

Jeff Well's critique of pernicious propaganda along those lines definitely struck a chord with me

Please supply JUST ONE link of Jeff Wells writing which is a critique of pernicious propaganda along those lines. Jeff Wells has written MUCH MORE about 9/11, UFOs and Jellyfish than about anti-fascism. His posts are dripping with discussions of, and about Weird Stuff and YOU have supported and invited here people associated with those who threatened to SUE HIM. How was THAT supporting the board?

and that is a big, big reason why I came here in the first place.

What other big big reasons did you have for coming here? How did it happen?

The prohibitions he placed on that sort of evil nonsense are the biggest reason I stayed.

So this RI Forum was a place where you thought that it would be a safe place for you
to discuss critiques and agree on consensus, from a position of deep agreement with Jeff Wells critique of White Supremacy, Patriarchy et al. as a board that was *about* "Anti-Fascism" as a subject understood by antifascist researchers and activists.

A story
[i]Once Upon a Time in a Forum far far away...[/i]
Jeff Wells said RI is a Pro-Mathematics board. It rejects numerology. It sees the importance of Mathematics in the real world, both Pure and Applied.
Searcher, who loves and studied and studies Maths, read this and feels 'home'. In a world full of numerologists, this has rules against it. Joy!
He starts posting threads on topology, category theory, Banach algebras, tensor analysis, quaternions and weaving links between them, because, well, they are linked.
Strangely, not many people respond to these, but he just keeps on posting and cross-linking.
He sees many posts which dont acknowledge that RI is a Pro-Mathematics Board, and for him these are numerology in disguise and he must fight against it.
People seem to be attacking him and he feels like he is the only person carrying the banner for RI being a Pro-Mathematics Board....
Till one day Searcher realised that Jeff Wells did not intend RI to be a Mathematics Research and Praxis Institute.
And he stopped posting for a while and started reading ALL of Jeff Wells posts... and learned and laughed and came back and posted about Jellyfish and UFOs and quantum physics and Gladio and angels and funny things he had seen and done and soon everyone felt they could breathe and amazing conversations were had, including more about Mathematics than he would ever have imagined and that made him and Jeff and everyone very very happy.

[American Dream]

So, just to clarify, coffin_dodger, you prefer vague allusions to being clear and specific about the negative aspersions you cast on your ideological foes?

[Searcher08]

So, just to clarify, coffin_dodger, you prefer vague allusions to being clear and specific about the negative aspersions you cast on your ideological foes?

Do not, gentle reader, think at this juncture about Solace and her vague and vitriol filled screaming accusations of anti-Semitism which were hailed by American Dream, as IIRC 'the product of an amazingly perceptive mind'.

Exceptionalism?, a blind spot?, engineered cognitive dissonance?, unintentional flakery?, trolling?

You Decide!

[Searcher08]

I would also say to the people interested in a genuine discussion of George Soros and the shills around him and their uncritical flag wavers here, please hang in there. More later.