Europe's Refugee Influx Crisis

[seemslikeadream]

"You" are clearly still alive SLAD. My point was that the refugees wouldn't be dying if their government hadn't been subverted.

sorry tapitsbo

SLaD just getting her exercise program in..... too lazy to ask what you meant

jumping to conclusions
flying off the handle
carrying things too far
dodging responsibilities
pushing my luck

[tapitsbo]

[Nordic]

[tapitsbo]

it will be interesting to see how IS activity in Europe corresponds with political decisions taken by the countries there.

[coffin_dodger]

Aaaaand...seems like a great time to reveal the UK's not-so-secret drone-assassination programme, as Syria is now on eveyone's mind again

UK forces kill British Isis fighters in targeted drone strike on Syrian city The Guardian 7 sep 2015

The British government authorised an unprecedented airstrike in Syria that killed two Britons fighting with Islamic State, David Cameron has announced.

The target of the RAF drone attack was Reyaad Khan, a 21-year-old from Cardiff who had featured in a prominent Isis recruiting video last year. Two other Isis fighters were killed in the attack on the Syrian city of Raqqa on 21 August. One of them, Ruhul Amin, 26, was also British.

Cameron justified the assassination in the sovereign territory of another country on the basis that Khan represented a specific threat to UK security, and that he had exercised the country’s “inherent right to self-protection”. He said the strike was not part of the coalition’s general fight against Isis in Syria.

cont - http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/07/uk-forces-airstrike-killed-isis-briton-reyaad-khan-syria

[Wombaticus Rex]

Interesting stuff here: http://data.unhcr.org/mediterranean/regional.html

51% Syrian, 14% Afghani, and...72% male.

I'm sure that'll integrate smoothly.

[blankly]

Mostly young men judging by the pictures on the tv screen. Same tv shots have shown these young men angrily demanding buses (Hungary),and ferry documents (Greece). In one segment one young man on Lesbos said on camera, with some anger 'if this is Europe I want to go back to Syria'. It's not pc to notice this, but when populations need to flee en masse because of terrible danger, doesn't one expect a more typical grouping and perhaps some understanding that there might be some difficulty in accommodating them ?

[82_28]

Yikes! I am sure that will go very smooth. What would be the factor(s) for such a lopsided ratio?

[Nordic]

Mostly young men judging by the pictures on the tv screen. Same tv shots have shown these young men angrily demanding buses (Hungary),and ferry documents (Greece). In one segment one young man on Lesbos said on camera, with some anger 'if this is Europe I want to go back to Syria'. It's not pc to notice this, but when populations need to flee en masse because of terrible danger, doesn't one expect a more typical grouping and perhaps some understanding that there might be some difficulty in accommodating them ?

Well. Who knows what they've been told. The Joad family was told there was milk and honey and lots of jobs in California.

[blankly]

Which suggests economic migrant not refugee.

[blankly]

So, no more replies. Still wondering what it all means, which parts are media spin, which parts are political manipulation.

[tapitsbo]

Maybe the "crisis" has many purposes.

[Harvey]

It's not pc to notice this...

Worth noting also that there is nothing neutral or representative about that sampling, the editing process, questions asked, stimulus responded to etc. Those comments are the ones chosen to be amplified by the outrage machine, I've heard many contrasting others elsewhere. Just sayin.

[tapitsbo]

There's more than one outrage machine and consquently lots of fear uncertainty and doubt

[Harvey]

There's more than one outrage machine and consquently lots of fear uncertainty and doubt

True, but the common element is that they're all outrage specialists.