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Oregon gunman was Army dropout who studied mass shooters
Jeff Barnard and Martha Mendoza, Associated Press
Updated 11:54 pm, Friday, October 2, 2015
ROSEBURG, Ore. (AP) — The 26-year-old gunman who opened fire on fellow students in his community college English class, killing nine people, was an Army boot camp dropout who studied mass shooters before becoming one himself.
A day after the rampage in this Oregon timber town, authorities said Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer wore a flak jacket and brought at least six guns and five ammunition magazines to the school. Investigators found another seven guns at the apartment he shared with his mother.
Officials on Friday also released the names of the dead, who ranged in age from 18 to 67 and included several freshmen and a teacher. They were sons and daughters, spouses and parents.
One of the students was active in the Future Farmers of America and loved to play soccer. Another was on only his fourth day of college. One was a 59-year-old student whose daughter was enrolled in the same school but not injured the shooting. Grieving families began sharing details of their loved ones.
"We have been trying to figure out how to tell everyone how amazing Lucas was, but that would take 18 years," the family of Lucas Eibel, 18, said in a statement released through the Douglas County Sheriff's Office.
Eibel, who was studying chemistry, volunteered at a wildlife center and animal shelter.
Quinn Glen Cooper's family said their son had just started college and loved dancing and voice acting.
"I don't know how we are going to move forward with our lives without Quinn," the Coopers said. "Our lives are shattered beyond repair."
Seven other people were wounded in the attack in Roseburg, about 180 miles south of Portland.
Harper-Mercer, who died during a shootout with police, was armed with handguns and a rifle, some of which were military grade. The weapons had been purchased legally over the past three years, some by him, others by relatives, said Celinez Nunez, assistant field agent for the Seattle division of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
Oregon's top federal prosecutor says the shooter used a handgun when he opened fire on classmates and stashed a rifle in another room and did not fire it. He says it's impossible to know what the shooter had planned for the rifle.
Those who knew the shooter described an awkward loner.
At a different apartment complex where Harper-Mercer and his mother lived in Southern California, neighbors remembered a quiet and odd young man who rode a red bike everywhere.
Reina Webb, 19, said the man's mother was friendly and often chatted with neighbors, but Harper-Mercer kept to himself. She said she occasionally heard him having temper tantrums in his apartment.
"He was kind of like a child so that's why his tantrums would be like kind of weird. He's a grown man. He shouldn't be having a tantrum like a kid. That's why I thought there was something — something was up," she said.
Harper-Mercer's social media profiles suggested he was fascinated by the Irish Republican Army and frustrated by traditional organized religion. He also tracked other mass shootings. In one post, he appeared to urge readers to watch the online footage of Vester Flanagan shooting two former colleagues live on TV in August in Virginia, noting "the more people you kill, the more you're in the limelight."
He may have even posted a warning. A message on 4chan — a forum where racist and misogynistic comments are frequent — warned of an impending attack, but it's unclear if it came from Harper-Mercer.
"Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to school tomorrow if you are in the northwest," an anonymous poster wrote a day before the shootings.
On Thursday morning, he walked into Snyder Hall at Umpqua Community College and began firing, shooting many victims repeatedly. Survivors described a classroom of carnage, and one said he ordered students to state their religion before shooting them.
Janet Willis told The Associated Press her granddaughter, Anastasia Boylan, was in the classroom.
Willis, who visited her granddaughter in the hospital, said Friday Boylan told her the shooter was asking students about their faith. "If they said they were Christian, he shot them in the head," Willis said her granddaughter told her.
She said her granddaughter also told her the shooter handed a student who wasn't shot a package and told him to deliver it to authorities.
Students in a classroom next door heard several shots, one right after the other, and their teacher told them to leave.
"We began to run," student Hannah Miles said. "A lot of my classmates were going every which way."
An aunt of an Army veteran hit by several bullets said he tried to stop the gunman from entering the classroom.
Wanda Mintz said her 30-year-old nephew, Chris Mintz, a student at the college, fell to the floor and asked the shooter to stop. But, she said, he shot Mintz again and went inside.
Several years ago, Harper-Mercer moved to Winchester, Oregon, from Torrance, California, with his mother, a nurse named Laurel Harper. His father, Ian Mercer, originally from the United Kingdom, told reporters outside his Tarzana, California, home, "I'm just as shocked as anybody at what happened."
At school in Oregon, "he was a typical Roseburg kid, kind of nerdy, kind of out there. Just himself," said Alex Frier, a stage manager at the college who said Harper-Mercer built sets for theater performances last semester.
A neighbor, Bronte Harte, said Harper-Mercer "seemed really unfriendly" and would "sit by himself in the dark in the balcony with this little light."
Harte said a woman she believed to be Mercer's mother also lived upstairs and was "crying her eyes out" Thursday.
The Army said Harper-Mercer flunked out of basic training in 2008.
Army spokesman Lt. Col. Ben Garrett said Harper-Mercer was in the military for a little over a month at Ft. Jackson, South Carolina, but was discharged for failing to meet the minimum standards.
Garrett did not say which standards Harper-Mercer failed. Generally, the Army requires recruits to pass physical fitness tests and to be in generally good physical and mental health. Recruits must also pass a multiple-choice test covering science, math, reading comprehension and other topics.
In Washington, President Barack Obama lamented the government's inability to pass stricter gun laws even after attacks like the one in Oregon.
At a news conference Friday at the White House, Obama said he plans to keep talking about the issue and "will politicize it" because inaction is itself a political decision the U.S. is making.
He said it's impossible to identify mentally ill people likely to perpetrate mass shootings ahead of time. The only thing the U.S. can do, he explained, is ensure they don't have an arsenal available "when something in them snaps."
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Mendoza reported from Santa Cruz. Associated Press writers Steven Dubois, Jonathan J. Cooper and Rachel La Corte in Portland; Tami Abdollah and Gosia Wozniacka in Roseburg; Michael R. Blood in Torrance, California; Rebecca Boone in Boise, Idaho; and Eric Tucker in Washington, D.C., contributed to this report.
http://www.timesunion.com/news/crime/article/A-terrible-day-9-killed-by-gunman-in-Oregon-6544815.php
by Nordic » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:55 pm
Does this seem familiar? From the pages of Milton William Cooper’s 1991 book Behold A Pale Horse:
“The government encouraged the manufacture and importation of firearms for the criminals to use. This is intended to foster a feeling of insecurity, which would lead the American people to voluntarily disarm themselves by passing laws against firearms. Using drugs and hypnosis on mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the ant-igun lobby. This plan is well under way, and so far is working perfectly. The middle class is begging the government to do away with the 2nd Amendment.”
by Jerky » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:09 pm
by elfismiles » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:14 pm
by General Patton » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:25 pm
elfismiles » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:14 pm wrote:How 4chan Trolled Two of Its Friends by Framing Them for the Oregon Mass Shooting
Jay Hathaway
Filed to: UMPQUA COMMUNITY COLLEGE10/03/15 11:12am
http://gawker.com/how-4chan-trolled-two ... 1734265649
by tapitsbo » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:14 pm
by General Patton » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:28 pm
tapitsbo » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:14 pm wrote:^^^Wow, I had no knowledge of this - but I'd already thought of Fantano when I saw the pictures of the shooter
by backtoiam » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:25 pm
CNN pretty much got assreamed all day long.
That's what he gets for not giving Death Grips Exmilitary a 10/10. The rap game is serious shit.
by General Patton » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:32 pm
backtoiam » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:25 pm wrote:
Ass reamed? I'm wondering, complicit?
by Wombaticus Rex » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:41 pm
backtoiam » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:25 pm wrote:I have no idea in hell what that means...
backtoiam » Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:25 pm wrote:Yesterday CNN repeated the "angry white male, with gun, no girlfriend, mentally ill" race bait shit over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over. Which was repeated by someone on this forum, and applauded by a couple of others, which greatly disturbs and disorients me because I have been posting in this forum, which also now possibly disturbs me.
It is an intentionally and carefully crafted narrative designed to be invective, divisive, and damaging just like all the Muslim, Black, Jewish, Christian, and everything else bashing, and it is happening here? Really? I noticed a trend of that reinforcement, and I was under the assumption that racism, no matter what color a person is, was strictly taboo on this forum.
by backtoiam » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:55 pm
Once your chassis is fully suspended in mid-air, does is matter how far your metaphor has extended off the edge of the cliff? Asking for a friend.
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