Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris hostage

[Grizzly]

[seemslikeadream]

What does France at war look like?

[Lord Balto]

Best Coverage of France False Flag Op here

Thanks for stopping through and hemorrhaging some raw text, buddy! Always a treat.

Anways, I have something else to address.

Now, granted, I've never read about this "Gladio" thing and I probably shouldn't comment, but I shall henceforth.

The sheer omnipotence being attributed to NATO (or Israel or The NWO or neo-cons) by presuming that projects like ISIS are taking orders from the top -- is insane to me. Even at Gladio's false flag peak, they were recruiting from abundantly available raw material: the true believers. To attribute the entire decades-long polymorphous history of Islamic resistance to the whims of some white, educated puppet master is to deny the free moral agency of generations of human beings.

Gladio is worthy of study; so is the history of sectarian struggles in Lebanon, because I think that's the model (and nightmare) that will shape the densely urbanized, climate refugee-flux communities of the century we're only just kicking off.

Nobody anywhere on Earth really has a monopoly on atrocity. It's what humans do.

I can't accept the notion that, somehow, NATO compels Asian and Middle Eastern power blocs in a way that doesn't work equally effectively in reverse. These are transactional relationships. Blackmail and terrorism are both easily utilized weapons for anyone dedicated enough to be dedicated enough.

To wrap up and be very specific, if you think that Arabs can't coordinate successful terror attacks in Europe without help -- or outright orchestration -- from white people, that's racist. My opinion. Islamic fundamentalist terrorism is a real thing. Intelligence agencies faking the work of Islamic fundamentalist terrorism is also a real thing. Neither negates the other. Nobody here really has answers about the subject under discussion.

That said, on with the discussion.

I have to agree with you wholeheartedly. The proper metaphor is not chess, but the Indian 4-handed chaturanga or dice chess, where the moves were determined, not just by the intent of the players, but by the roll of dice or cowry shells, so there was always a random factor operating. Though the complete rules are no longer extant, some of them survive. Of particular interest was the way the last of the four players to place a rook or elephant at the center of the board got to control all four of them. One is reminded of Putin's insertion of the Russian military into the conflict with the Islamic State.

[kool maudit]

What a horrorshow. I am only just beginning to try and parse meanings. Among people I know, a sample that skews heavily toward media and NGO types, the reactions can be listed as follows, in ascending order of social prestige:

1. This was an act of aggression by muslims against non-muslims, and the policies of the current political order are inferior to those of the right-wing.

2. This is a strange and shrouded act that has somehow brought longstanding collusions between nominally Islamic radicals and Western intelligence into the heart of Europe in an effort to skew support for a military/intelligence project, likely the invasion of Syria. The policies of the current political order are a screen for other policies.

3. This is the natural consequence of French history and military/intelligence policy, as well as of Europe's historic resistance to cultural integration on the part of non-Europeans. The policies of the current political order are insufficient, and represent a too-shallow and overly compromised approach to what is essentially a problem of failing to consider humanity as a single group.

Somehow they all, in their way, seem to possess a fragment of a truth-claim. There is nobody I know who seems wildly wrong, really... but none seem right either. Including myself. Especially me. And I am becoming so cynical that this may occlude me from seeing what is actually happening; I am becoming too entrenched in meta-analysis.

I fear my reactions are of a type that occurs late in a civilization's history.

[Lord Balto]

What does France at war look like?

Are you suggesting that the French aren't very good at fighting? Granted, their behavior in the run-up to WWII wasn't exemplary, but they certainly carried their own weight during WWI, and folks like Napolean were quite good at defeating their enemies. And the descendants of the Foreign Legion continue to do an adequate job of intervening in former French colonies in West Africa, parachuting in for 6 months or a year, straightening things out, and then leaving, unlike the U.S. and British who wade in clumsily and stick around for decades, giving the locals time to develop a major dislike for their occupiers and to build a terrorist/revolutionary structure capable of inflicting horrendous damage on their occupiers.

[seemslikeadream]

I am suggesting no such thing...how could you surmise that question from my question...


I hold no grudges that Napoleon did not come to the aid of the Irish


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p2g2WuGXwE

[coffin_dodger]

'baticus:

but hey, we all make fertile mistakes

It's more febrile than fertile, to my mind.

[seemslikeadream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKOyRz_AKx0

Joan came riding from the rain
Everybody knows the story
England burned her in the rain
Theirs the shame and hers the glory
Everybody knows the story
All the while they come and they go
England's shame and France's glory
When she vanished like the snow


Where's the times and where's the places?
That is what I'd like to know
For they gloried in their graces
When they vanished like the snow

[Lord Balto]

What a horrorshow. I am only just beginning to try and parse meanings. Among people I know, a sample that skews heavily toward media and NGO types, the reactions can be listed as follows, in ascending order of social prestige:

1. This was an act of aggression by muslims against non-muslims, and the policies of the current political order are inferior to those of the right-wing.

Except that, like the WTC--no matter what you think of the identities of the true perpetrators--the folks who died transcended ethnic groups. As for the wingnuts, they will pounce on any apparent failure to suggest that their weltanschauung is better than anyone else's.

2. This is a strange and shrouded act that has somehow brought longstanding collusions between nominally Islamic radicals and Western intelligence into the heart of Europe in an effort to skew support for a military/intelligence project, likely the invasion of Syria. The policies of the current political order are a screen for other policies.

There is certainly collusion between "nominally Islamic radicals" and the Western military. To the extent that this collusion is moderated and extended by Western intelligence agencies is not immediately obvious. I would certainly not rule out CIA participation in Iraq and Syria, per se. That they had a direct role in the Paris carnage is not yet clear. But no one has ever accused these lunatics of being humanitarians.

3. This is the natural consequence of French history and military/intelligence policy, as well as of Europe's historic resistance to cultural integration on the part of non-Europeans. The policies of the current political order are insufficient, and represent a too-shallow and overly compromised approach to what is essentially a problem of failing to consider humanity as a single group.

No matter what the historical crimes of the French state, as for ISIS itself, they are a direct result of American intervention in Iraq and the overthrow of a stable, secular government under Saddam. Same with Syria, where the U.S. is desperately trying to overthrow another stable secular government, under Assad. Do these morons never learn? Or, as some have suggested, is destablization their ultimate goal? This is where we get into the murky question of Israeli complicity, which I normally tend to see as antisemitic rhetoric, but it must be remembered that modern Israel was born between the two vast empires of the Soviet Union and the U.S. Global Corporate Empire, as ancient Israel managed to survive between the two major powers of the time, Egypt and the Assyrian Empire.

Somehow they all, in their way, seem to possess a fragment of a truth-claim. There is nobody I know who seems wildly wrong, really... but none seem right either. Including myself. Especially me. And I am becoming so cynical that this may occlude me from seeing what is actually happening; I am becoming too entrenched in meta-analysis.

I fear my reactions are of a type that occurs late in a civilization's history.

[American Dream]

The Hum -Updated 11/14/15

http://visupview.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-hum.html

[seemslikeadream]

^^^^

Naturally, France has declared a state of emergency WAR, the most rigid and far reaching since the attempted coup against de Gaulle in 1961.

There are also some interesting esoteric aspects to the date of November 13th involving the Egyptian god Osiris and his wife/sister Isis (har har), which I've addressed before here.

[Lord Balto]

I am suggesting no such thing...how could you surmise that question from my question...


I hold no grudges that Napoleon did not come to the aid of the Irish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p2g2WuGXwE

One could read a certain irony into your original question. Beyond that, it's clear what France at war looks like. As I pointed out, France has a long history of warfare, going back to Charles I. In the case of ISIS, I would imagine "France at war" would look like France during the colonial period, as opposed to the period we might call the neocolonial period. And, after all, isn't that what this is all about? The French and the British (and their former American colonies) trying to reestablish their former empires, this time united under the aegis of the European Union? And all in the name of controlling a large portion of surviving oil supplies?

[Lord Balto]

^^^^

Naturally, France has declared a state of emergency WAR, the most rigid and far reaching since the attempted coup against de Gaulle in 1961.

There are also some interesting esoteric aspects to the date of November 13th involving the Egyptian god Osiris and his wife/sister Isis (har har), which I've addressed before here.

The question, of course, is whether "ISIS" has anything to do with their Arabic moniker, or whether, like "scud," it's a CIA construct meant to associate with the ancient Egyptian goddess.

[divideandconquer]

I'm reeling from the amount of jingoistic "solidarity with France", facile "this is finally the beginning of an era of peace", and muddled "terrorists are the real victims" stuff I saw today. The terrorists ARE victims/patsies at the lowest ranks even if they are enthusiastic believers - but it's strange to see so many people gushing sympathy for them. My sympathies are drawn instead to the populations in the West and the Middle East that will have to suffer the reaction to this - NATO article 5, etc.

The sensationalist side of me loves the comments here about Templars and goat-worship. I hope this gets fleshed out a little for those who aren't literate in these matters.

Here's some woo, which basically boils it down to the revenge of Pope Francis.

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Russia: Friday 13th Paris Attacks ‘A Masonic Ritual For World War 3

A new report by the Russian Ministry of Defence on Saturday says that the Friday 13th Paris attacks can be likened to a “ritual massacre” orchestrated by a secretive cabal of Freemasons who wish to initiate World War 3.

The report claims that members of the CIA, DGSE (French intelligence), MI6, Israeli intelligence, and even the Vatican were part of an orchestrated plan to commit the (false flag) Paris “terrorist” attacks in order to further a much bigger agenda.

The plot was discovered by the Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) in Russia on 27th October following a secretive meeting in Washing D.C attended by the Director of the CIA, John Brennan, and DGSE Director Bernard Bajolet.

The overt purpose for this extraordinary meeting of the West’s top intelligence masterminds, this report continues, was their public discussion at an event called the CIA-GW Intelligence Conference: Panel on The Shared 21st Century International Mission where the future of the Middle East (at least from the Western perspective) was being determined.

The covert reason, however, for this meeting, this report says, was “revealed/discovered” by the GRU when these spy masterminds met in secret after their conference at the home of US Vice President Joseph Biden, who is the top Roman Catholic Jesuit (Society of Jesus) holding power in America today, and presided over by CIA Director John Brennan who, like Vice President Biden, is a Jesuit-trained intelligence analyst with an interest in Just War theory.

Immediately after this 27 October meeting of these Western spy chiefs with Vice President Biden, this report states, the initial GRU report filed with the MoD about it “warned/strongly suggested” that the Jesuit-Masonic makeup of these “cabal/plotters” could not rule out a retaliatory strike against the Federation organized by this group on 13 November as these secretive organizations frequently, if not always, “schedule/plan” their false-flag massacres to coincide with “important/mystical” dates important to them.

Important to note is that unlike many of its other national counterparts, the Federation devotes an enormous amount of monetary and intellectual resources to what is called “esoteric/satanic/religious” intelligence due to their experiences in the Great Patriotic War (World War II) against the German Nazi Empire—a war fought not only against armies, but against the “unknown/unseen” forces behind that monstrous regime.

Especially alarming about the 27 October meeting of these spy chiefs in Washington D.C., this report continues, was DGSE Director Bernard Bajolet stating afterwards that the Federation protected nation of Syria “will be different from what had been established after World War II”—which in turn led the GRU to warn the MoD that the Freemasons “Master Magic numbers of 11 and 13” were now in play.

And exactly as the GRU had warned, yesterday, 13 November, the latest of the West’s “ritual massacres” intended to remake the entire world into their image occurred in Paris when Western-backed Islamic State (ISIS/ISIL) terrorists led a coordinated attack against 6 defenseless targets killing at least 128 and wounding 180 more with 99 of the survivors being reported in critical condition.

The significance of these Freemason-Jesuit plotters exacting yesterday’s Friday the 13th massacre on Paris, this report explains, is due to their secretive organizations banishment, arresting and outlawing of all of their members on Friday the 13 October 1307 against their declaration of innocence, and the subsequent burning at the stake of their Grand Master, Jacques de Molay, outside of the Notre Dame Cathedral seven years later on Friday 13 March 1314.

The burning at the stake of their Grand Master, Jacques de Molay,

Critical to note too, this report says, are that previous GRU warnings had been issued in 2013 that the Freemason-Jesuits would take revenge for the killing of their Grand Master after the election to the Roman Catholic Papacy of Pope Francis (the first Jesuit to be installed as Pope in the Church’s entire history) on 13 March of that year—699 years to the date after the fiery execution of Jacques de Molay in front of Notre Dame Cathedral, and in spite of the fact that Jesuits are bound by oath not to seek higher office in the Roman Catholic Church due to their past association with the Freemasons.

To the “identical/connection” between the Jesuits and Freemasons, this report further explains, was first documented by the United States Congress in 1913 [Congressional Record, House Bill 1523, Contested election case of Eugene C. Bonniwell, against Thos. S. Butler, February 15, 1913, pages 3215-3216] when the oaths taken by each of these secretive organizations were discovered to be nearly exactly the same in their members pledging their allegiance to their cause against any and all governments or nations:

Pledge of the Jesuits

I, ……….., now, in the presence of Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy Apostles St. Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven, and to you, my ghostly father, the Superior General of the Society of Jesus, founded by St. Ignatius Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third, and continued to the present, do by the womb of the virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear, that his holiness the Pope is Christ’s Vice-regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing, given to his Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, states, commonwealths and governments, all being illegal without his sacred confirmation and that they may safely be destroyed.

Pledge of the Freemasons (associated Freemason organizations and Rhode Scholars take this pledge too)

I, …………, now in the presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St. Peter and St. Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of heaven, and to you, my Ghostly Father, the superior general of the Society of Jesus rounded by St. Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul the III and continued to the present, do by the womb at the Virgin, the matrix of God, and the rod of Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His Holiness the Pope, is Christ’s vice regent and is the true and only head of the Catholic or Universal Church throughout the earth; and that by virtue of the keys of binding and loosing given His Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath power to depose heretical kings, princes, States, Commonwealths, and Governments and they may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the utmost of ray power I will defend this doctrine and His Holiness’s right and custom against all usurpers of the heretical or Protestant authority whatever, especially the Lutheran Church of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, and Norway and the now pretended authority and Churches of England and Scotland, and the branches of same now established in Ireland and on the Continent of America and elsewhere, and all adherents in regard that they may be usurped and heretical, opposing the sacred Mother Church of Rome.

Jesuit-Freemason’s ultimate goal of causing World War III.

Aside from the revenge factor being at play in yesterday’s Friday the 13th Paris massacre, this report continues, is it also being able to serve as the springboard for the Jesuit-Freemason’s ultimate goal of causing World War III.

To how this will be accomplished, this report says, and at least as these plotters hope it will, will be for France to declare yesterday’s Friday the 13th massacre as an act of war—which upon their doing so will bring into immediate force Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) treaty the French nation rejoined in 2009 after a 43 year absence.

Article 5 of the NATO treaty, this report explains, says that the response to an attack on any member may include armed force, but it does not mandate it. All that NATO actually promises is to take “such action as it deems necessary” to restore and maintain security. That could be anything from nuclear war to a stiff diplomatic protest.

The only time Article 5 of the NATO treaty has ever been invoked in its entire history, this report further states, was on 12 September 2001 after the attacks on the United States—which remains in effect to today, but with France at the time not being member would necessitate histories second invocation of it so that France can legally (at least in the eyes of the West) engage in total global war with its allies.

The policy of containment

With French President Francois Hollande declaring today that this Friday the 13th massacre is, indeed, an “act of war” perpetrated by the Islamic State, MoD expert analysts in this report say, and with ISIS, likewise,claiming responsibility, the French have now vowed a “merciless response” setting the stage for a direct military confrontation with the Federation.

And even though the Foreign Ministry has warned against early conclusions regarding reasons and objectives the terrorists had in Paris; as all information should come from investigators, this report notes, the Western propaganda press has now gone into “high gear” pushing their citizens toward war.

As the Federation, since 30 September, has been bombing the Islamic State and its terrorist allies into oblivion, the greatest fear of these Jesuit-Freemason plotters, this report warns, is that their not so secret support of these barbarians with weapons and resources will become more apparent to the world unmasking these monsters and revealing who they really are—and with that what their global agenda is too.

But with doing as the Foreign Ministry says they should do, this report concludes, the true motives of this Friday the 13th massacre will, likewise, be revealed for what it truly is—and which President Obama himself agrees with as just the day prior to this attack, 12 October, he rightfully noted that the Islamic State was not getting stronger and has now been contained.

To the final outcome of this great tragedy this report doesn’t speculate upon—but one can hope that the real truth of this massacre becomes more widely known before, and as always, these warmongers plunge our world into total war.

[seemslikeadream]

^^^^thanks

Should I have asked ...What does France at WAR look like....world war lll?

A Masonic Ritual For World War 3