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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Harvey » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:41 pm

I guess one of the few intelligent questions to ask is: who exactly benefits from the various weapons sales, logistical support contracts, race war, police militarisation, balkanised America and so on?
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:35 pm

Harvey » Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:41 pm wrote:I guess one of the few intelligent questions to ask is: who exactly benefits from the various weapons sales, logistical support contracts, race war, police militarisation, balkanised America and so on?

Surely, it is, Harvey. One might not need probe further than the first you mention, as the others will be exposed when one does. I would only switch 'race war' with police 'militarisation' to better show their true order of revealing.
To all the genuine lefties on this board: wouldn't it strengthen your cause to have Trump win? (Providing a rallying cry as GWB did)

To respond to tabitsbo as though I was a lefty, I say no, it wouldn't. A Trump presidency won't be beneficial to any regardless their political leaning. I mean to no one at all. Seriously. Not the rich, or the poor.

A Trump presidency will be catastrophic for our country. We will be seen as the wealthiest, most coercive, militarily bullying nation on earth and we will be being led by a megalomaniacal narcissistic

I doubt Hillary will be indicted, and I would be surprised if she is, but Trump will be convicted of fraud in his Trumps U scam, that's a certainty.

Interesting, Mr. WRex, about the wiki for "Accelerationist." "External shocks"

I must admit, superficially, I first felt Trump might bring us a comedy, and was humored by the thought; now I deeply feel like it would be more like a disaster flick, but without the happy ending.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:17 pm

Harvey » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:41 pm wrote:I guess one of the few intelligent questions to ask is: who exactly benefits from the various weapons sales, logistical support contracts, race war, police militarisation, balkanised America and so on?


Who exactly benefits from the false assumptions embedded in this question? Does exactly mean you're going to get one answer? These are all large-scale multi-sector industries, with the exception perhaps of "balkanised America," which is a limited-use myth at best if you ignore the simultaneous signs of "homogenized America."
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

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Ed.: The headline on Google News offering up the annunciation of Hillary [the long journey from Seneca Falls], coupled with some off-stage cries for Warren to become Veep and Hillary’s own announcement that she will not go “insult-for-insult” with Trump, all signal — like the bell in the kitchen — the degree to which the last vestiges of political involvement by the masses of people in the future of the Presidency, i.e., our particular angel food brioche , is ready to come out of the oven.

How coincidental it is that the woman who is so deeply embedded with the Zionists is the bulldozer on the 49th anniversay of the attack on the USS Liberty.

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An under-the-radar startup funded by billionaire Eric Schmidt has become a major technology vendor for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, underscoring the bonds between Silicon Valley and Democratic politics.

The Groundwork, according to Democratic campaign operatives and technologists, is part of efforts by Schmidt—the executive chairman of Google parent-company Alphabet—to ensure that Clinton has the engineering talent needed to win the election. And it is one of a series of quiet investments by Schmidt that recognize how modern political campaigns are run, with data analytics and digital outreach as vital ingredients that allow candidates to find, court, and turn out critical voter blocs.

But campaigns—lacking stock options and long-term job security—find it hard to attract the elite engineering talent that Facebook, Google, and countless startups rely on. That’s also part of the problem that Schmidt and the Groundwork are helping Clinton’s team to solve.

The Groundwork is one of the Clinton campaign’s biggest vendors, billing it for more than $177,000 in the second quarter of 2015, according to federal filings. Yet many political operatives know little about it. Its website consists entirely of a grey-on-black triangle logo that suggests “the digital roots of change” while also looking vaguely like the Illuminati symbol:

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“We’re not trying to obfuscate anything, we’re just trying to keep our heads down and do stuff,” says Michael Slaby, who runs the Groundwork. He was the chief technology officer for president Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign, a top digital executive for Obama 2012, and the former chief technology strategist for TomorrowVentures, Schmidt’s angel investment fund.

He explained that the Groundwork and its parent company, Chicago-based Timshel—which according to its website is named for a Hebrew word meaning “you may” and is devoted to “helping humanity solve our most difficult social, civic, and humanitarian challenges”—are “all one project, with the same backers,” whom he declined to name.

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“… People around the world will wonder what democracy is all about when a race for a presidency ends up as a contest between the two most disliked people in the field who are both proxies for the more or less same small social segment. The “Not Hillary” voices will not die down. A seemingly racist Trump with otherwise unpredictable policies may be less damaging to the world than an unreconstructed neolibcon Clinton.”

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“…. The oligarchy wants Clinton to be prez. She will give them everything they want – create more wars, force greater austerity cuts domestically, give a free ride to the Wall Street banksters – and she will do what Obama has done…. keep significant portions of the ‘liberal’ base demobilized while all of this is happening.

But Hillary can’t win because her negatives are so high UNLESS she has an opponent so hated, so controversial, so despised, so lacking in experience – thus Trump enters the ring. The perfect foil. ….”

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Democrat Primary Open Thread: California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, and South Dakota

The last Super Tuesday.

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‘It was just chaos’: Broken machines, incomplete voter rolls leave some wondering whether their ballots will count Los Angeles Times. Third-world stuff.

The “wonderful” US corporate “democracy” fully exposed thanks to Bernie the unbalanced evolution of homo sapiens

Bernie’s legacy: One of the most valuable donor lists ever Politico. And if Sanders turns his list over to the DNC, or any Democrat Establishment creature, I’m going into götterdämmerung mode.

Hillary Clinton, Democratic nominee: Now the left begins to bargain with a painful reality — and a hopeful future Salon (BB). Rome wasn’t burnt in a day!

Sanders supporters pushed Clinton to the left—now they have to keep her there Quartz. Let’s focus on what’s achievable.

Newly released poll results show informed millennials leading a winning majority in support of Amendment 69 ColoradoCare (the campaign site). I’d love to see Sanders campaign for this.

Pelosi endorses Clinton, says female VP pick would be ‘fabulous’ Politico. That’s another straw in the wind for Warren… Or Gillibrand?

Connecticut Rejects Request For Records About Anthem-Cigna Merger David Sirota, International Business Times. Stench arising from home state of Dan Malloy, co-chair of Democrat Platform Committee.

Defiant Sanders camp: It ain’t over Politico but Inside the bitter last days of Bernie’s revolution Politico. Press going into full pull-the-wings-of-the-fly mode. They always do.

Shut Down the Democratic National Convention Chris Hedges, Truthdig. I’m 100% certain there are more productive things to do in Philly than that.

KING: Hillary Clinton did not win the Democratic Primary, she won a secret survey of party elites NY Daily News

Clinton’s hard-won nomination comes after learning the lessons of 2008 Guardian

Bye-Bye, Bernie Bloomberg

Dick Morris Is in Talks to Join the Trump Campaign New York Magazine. Morriss, of course, is the strategist who introduced Bill Clinton to triangulation. One big happy!

GOP senators say party could still deny Trump the nomination Washington Examiner (Re Silc).

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Nordic » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:02 am

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Karmamatterz » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:41 am

A Trump presidency will be catastrophic for our country. We will be seen as the wealthiest, most coercive, militarily bullying nation on earth and we will be being led by a megalomaniacal narcissistic.


I Am, please list any U.S. president since Wilson who was NOT a narcissist.

Then please demonstrate (predict the future) how Trump will be worse than George W. Bush, Poppy, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, (will let you off the hook on JFK but likely he was a narcissist also) etc, etc..

Followed by that go through the rest of the murderous assholes and thieves who have lived in the White House all the way back to Wilson, including the Democrat that chose to nuke Japan.

Really, the U.S. is NOT using it military to bully half the planet? Are we living on the same planet?

For crissakes all the dramatics over Drumpf and people fucking forget their history lessons.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby brekin » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:45 pm

Karmamatterz » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:41 am wrote:
A Trump presidency will be catastrophic for our country. We will be seen as the wealthiest, most coercive, militarily bullying nation on earth and we will be being led by a megalomaniacal narcissistic.


I Am, please list any U.S. president since Wilson who was NOT a narcissist.

Then please demonstrate (predict the future) how Trump will be worse than George W. Bush, Poppy, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, (will let you off the hook on JFK but likely he was a narcissist also) etc, etc..
Followed by that go through the rest of the murderous assholes and thieves who have lived in the White House all the way back to Wilson, including the Democrat that chose to nuke Japan.
Really, the U.S. is NOT using it military to bully half the planet? Are we living on the same planet?
For crissakes all the dramatics over Drumpf and people fucking forget their history lessons.


Trump is seriously dangerous because he openly incites the populace to be racist, misogynistic, patriarchal, xenophobic, anti-press, greedy, violent, vindictive, and basically cruel. He is a demagogue whose policies (such as they are) pale in comparison to the ethos he represents. Forget about overseas policy and bullying the rest of the planet (which his very election will be the death knell to diplomacy) if he gets elected there will be race riots and other riots which we haven't seen before even in the civil rights era because even George W. Bush, Poppy, Reagan, Nixon, Johnson, JFK, pretended to be sympathetic to minority rights, poverty, women's issues, workers rights, etc. (Reagan, yes the least of them, but still he could play along somewhat) where Trump basically says tough shit to that and he will make America great by being tough on China. Which as he poisons the domestic sphere and tanks the economy internationally (he's already alienated China and Latin America) will force him to go to war big time, domestically and internationally, to reframe why America still ain't quite Great Again. All Trump can do is constantly employ a blame rhetoric on more and more created villains and try to fire them when something goes wrong, that we have learned from history, is the colonels original recipe for a tyrant.

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Nordic » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:13 pm

I'm seeing something happening here and everywhere. People, including directly above this comment, are projecting what America already is doing onto Trump.

Who is actually inciting war with China? And Russia? Not Trump.

Who has already destroyed diplomacy abroad and is the world's biggest bully since the Roman Empire? Not Trump.

In fact Trump has stated he thinks going to war with Russia would be completely stupid and that NATO should be abolished. Who else is saying this? Not even the liberal Darling Bernie "Hugo Chavez is. Dead communist dictator" Sanders is saying anything remotely like this.

Why the projection? Why is the hatred people are directing at Trump NOT aimed at those people who are ACTUALLY DOING the very things that they are so terrified trump will do?

It's weird.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Harvey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:48 pm

JackRiddler » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:17 am wrote:
Harvey » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:41 pm wrote:I guess one of the few intelligent questions to ask is: who exactly benefits from the various weapons sales, logistical support contracts, race war, police militarisation, balkanised America and so on?


Who exactly benefits from the false assumptions embedded in this question? Does exactly mean you're going to get one answer? These are all large-scale multi-sector industries, with the exception perhaps of "balkanised America," which is a limited-use myth at best if you ignore the simultaneous signs of "homogenized America."


I thought long and hard before replying. In the end I'll let the question stand, probably for the reasons you identify among others. My sense of irony doesn't seem to translate but on the face of it the question 'who exactly' does include an awful lot. On a scale of culpability, where are you Jack? Where am I? If that isn't a good question, what is? How do I work my way down, how do you? Who are those for whom the question is genuinely meaningless?

And show me a single portion of any western country which isn't balkanised, from the smallest family unit on upward.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Harvey » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:51 pm

Nordic » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:13 pm wrote:I'm seeing something happening here and everywhere. People, including directly above this comment, are projecting what America already is doing onto Trump.

Who is actually inciting war with China? And Russia? Not Trump.

Who has already destroyed diplomacy abroad and is the world's biggest bully since the Roman Empire? Not Trump.

In fact Trump has stated he thinks going to war with Russia would be completely stupid and that NATO should be abolished. Who else is saying this? Not even the liberal Darling Bernie "Hugo Chavez is. Dead communist dictator" Sanders is saying anything remotely like this.

Why the projection? Why is the hatred people are directing at Trump NOT aimed at those people who are ACTUALLY DOING the very things that they are so terrified trump will do?

It's weird.


Same phenomenon with Obama frankly. It's as though history begins again each election cycle. The positive way to see this is that simple maintenance as usual is now unacceptable. That's a change for the better.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby brekin » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:53 pm

Nordic » Tue Jun 14, 2016 4:13 pm wrote:I'm seeing something happening here and everywhere. People, including directly above this comment, are projecting what America already is doing onto Trump.
Who is actually inciting war with China? And Russia? Not Trump.
Who has already destroyed diplomacy abroad and is the world's biggest bully since the Roman Empire? Not Trump.
In fact Trump has stated he thinks going to war with Russia would be completely stupid and that NATO should be abolished. Who else is saying this? Not even the liberal Darling Bernie "Hugo Chavez is. Dead communist dictator" Sanders is saying anything remotely like this.
Why the projection? Why is the hatred people are directing at Trump NOT aimed at those people who are ACTUALLY DOING the very things that they are so terrified trump will do?
It's weird.


Nordic, I know you know every candidate says they are going to change things, that is what they do. When they get in power though they realize that they really can't change much of anything, and that is often something seasoned politicians have to learn. The only difference then often is to judge them over what they do have power over, and that usually is their influence over people. Trump's influence is completely toxic just as a candidate, he has divided the country just as a candidate. Even when seemingly insane or inept party candidates run the other side can understand why the other side is voting for them because of ideological issues, Trump has no issues except his inner ones, he's a plutocrat who doesn't understand politics and just says what he wants without any understanding of the mechanics of the political process. He talks how the uber rich talk if they really could run things, not just some or most things, but all things. There is an institutional momentum to things in this country that yes bad shit happens but who in the white house or state department is openly calling for banning muslims, punishing women who get abortions, and banning the press? We saw how torture, false imprisonment without trial, global assassination without review, etc. went mainstream in a few couple of years just based on fear mongering, how can people not see electing the supreme hate mongerer to the highest office couldn't make things worse? Yes W was bad, Obama just as much but at least gave a lot of people that good feeling inside. But if you really want to see how bad things could get, though, I guess give the reality show candidate a chance and we'll all find out.

P.S. Also, for those who want things to "completely fall apart to expose what is really happening" do you really think if it gets to the point where everyone realizes what is what, that anyone could then do anything about it?
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Karmamatterz » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:19 pm

(he's already alienated China and Latin America)


Oh, but when the dollars flow and commerce is chugging along just about all narcissist government leaders will make a deal. The club is filled with murderous fucks that have no problem with creating situations to get cheap or slave labor. Commerce brings them wealth, wealth brings power. I bet many of the totalitarian leaders of the world would get along handsomely with Drumpf.

Can't disagree with how he incites the public. When he is not over the top and being a complete buffon he does as the average Joe would comment, say it as it is. People of sick and tired of political correctness and politicians that lie. Why else do you think people like him so much? It's not for his hair or tan.

If Drumpf gets credit (rightly or wrongly) for economic growth and job creation a lot of people won't care about his faults and ugly side.

So the establishment club this time has lathered up a pig with a lot of lipstick? Ok. So the others he ran agains in primaries and the dozens of his predecessors weren't quite pigs with liptstick. They still did well at helping the rich man's club further global hegemony through bullets, bombs, missiles (gotta love those drones, thanks Obama!), manipulation and assassination. What's worse assassinating a a foreign leader or talking sexist trash? Approving a drone strike that takes out little kids and innocents or bitching about illegal aliens crossing our borders?

Just trying to be reasonable about this. I know Drumpf is a major dickhead selfish prick, he just has a different hair dresser and shape of lipstick on his snout.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby conniption » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:20 pm

Hillary Clinton's election fraud finally exposed. California stolen from Bernie Sanders!

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Transcript: Dear citizens of America. As most of you already know, Hillary Clinton defeated Bernie Sanders in the California democratic primary by 12.6 points on June 7th 2016. 55.8% for Hillary Clinton and 43.2% for Bernie Sanders, but recently leaked information shows mass election fraud across the state. The shear mass of the election fraud that took place in California was staggering and is unlike anything we have seen in decades. It is estimated that 2 out of every 3 of Bernie Sanders votes were not counted during the California primary election. We will explain in detail exactly how the election was rigged and provide our sources. Let's begin.

The true results of the election is estimated to be 69% to 31% in favor of Sanders. This is a land slide 38 point victory for Bernie Sanders. So how did Hillary Clinton manage to syphon 50 points from Sanders? Using 3 simple election fraud methods simultaneously.

Method 1: Bernie Sanders is heavily favored among NPP voters; in fact, this demographic is the main factor in Bernie Sanders' 38 point landslide victory. The Democratic Party ordered all NPP voters to use provisional ballots during the California election, and these ballots were thrown out and not counted toward the election. A newly-trained California poll worker speaks out about her experience at her training session in the following footage.

Method 2: Bernie Sanders is also heavily favored among young Americans and new voters, but many of these young or new voters were registered as Democrats during the voting process, so the fake ballot tricks could not work. Many young or new voters were instead purged completely, finding that their registrations had magically vanished or switched to Republican. Without the young voters, Bernie Sanders was forced to compete with Hillary with old democratic voters, but these are Hillary's strongest demographics; this put Sanders at a crushing disadvantage.

Method 3: Flipping the electronic voting machines. There are many reports of voting machine irregularities across the state. Poll workers in Los Angeles and Orange County report that Bernie won the electronic votes in their precincts by well over a 2 to 1 margin, the opposite of the result of the vote count. ​The contrast between this and the outcome is indicative of vote-flipping. This result in another 7 figure number of Bernie Sanders votes not being counted; in fact, this is much worse. Millions of Bernie Sanders votes were actually counted as Hillary Clinton votes. This is sickening.
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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby Nordic » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:51 am

So Bernie gave his much-awaited speech tonight where he promises to "transform America" and all of that feel good stuff.

But did I miss something?

I don't see any mention of election fraud, vote flipping, hacked voting machines or having the DNC conspire to select a pre-ordained candidate. You know, the very things that prevented him from actually "transforming America".

Maybe I read through this too fast. Anyone else car to look for the part of his speech that addresses this most fundamental issue of what we call "Democracy"?

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Re: Bernie Sanders running for preznit?

Postby 82_28 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:15 am

I think that's why he's sticking with it. He's been nothing but as gracious as a political candidate can be. At least that's how I view him and his persona. Perhaps the question of vote flipping, he is letting the people who populate the Internet make it more known and won't wade in since he doesn't have to really and if he has a chance he's not going to go negative.

I'm glad he's sticking around. I was fearing he would throw his support behind Clinton with last night's comments.
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