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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:57 pm

82_28 » 14 Jul 2016 18:35 wrote:I understand that the surveillance could have been connected to a network, but why? I am not espousing "hoax first" but why? At least there would have had to have been a built-in failsafe system, no? If the system crashes that shit ain't monitoring shit then it isn't monitoring anything when it comes down to it. If this is true, keep this in mind would be criminals, psychos etc. There are probably a lot of public places then that security can be brought down. Makes no sense to me.


Good point. If you can shut down security cameras with a simple DoS attack, that would be a big help to many criminals.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Novem5er » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:18 pm

A lot of video security systems these days don't record to tapes; they record to a hard drive on a server somewhere, which allows for remote viewing (not that kind!) and easier backup. Unless the server is "on site", then all the video is actually being fed to an ip address on a remote server, which is what allows people with the ip and the user/pass to view the video feed. I believe Comcast offers this service to both business and residential customers, where they maintain the server.

It's possible that the college outsourced their video surveillance needs, which means the video server should not be on the same site as their web server. However, if they kept everything in-house, then it's possible that they put everything on the same server/network. This is obviously not a smart thing to do BUT they probably never thought that they'd be victim to criminals that also would coordinate a hack or DOS attack to cover up their physical crime on campus. Security and web traffic SHOULD be on separate networks, but people can be lazy, incompetent, or lack the budget to build separate networks.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Karmamatterz » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:22 pm

It's possible that the college outsourced their video surveillance needs, which means the video server should not be on the same site as their web server. However, if they kept everything in-house, then it's possible that they put everything on the same server/network. This is obviously not a smart thing to do BUT they probably never thought that they'd be victim to criminals that also would coordinate a hack or DOS attack to cover up their physical crime on campus. Security and web traffic SHOULD be on separate networks, but people can be lazy, incompetent, or lack the budget to build separate networks.


Exactly.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Novem5er » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:48 pm

MacCruiskeen » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:00 pm wrote:
All good questions, Luther. I can't answer any of them.

I am beginning to suspect that ALL of the shooting was done by that single gunman filmed on the street, and that he had finished shooting by about 9:05 pm. Did he fire at all after entering the school and running upstairs? Did he ever fire a weapon from any "elevated position" at all? Note that Dallas Police Chief Brown has already said that twelve (in figures:12) police officers fired their guns. Cacophony and confusion.

PS Brown himself does not give the impression of being a complete bastard or a shameless liar. It's important to remember at least two things: 1) Brown himself was not present at the "stand-off". 2) The FBI will be in overall charge of this cover-up "investigation".

It's perfectly possible, and indeed likely, that "Chief" Brown himself is being fed a yarn and forced to regurgitate it to the public.


This post gave me whiplash, considering its source. Good job, Mac, for catching me off guard :thumbsup

IMO the Dallas PD is mourning five of their own and they will do / would do anything for revenge against the attacker and to make sure that guilty parties are not protected. I can't imagine officers of any level there being knowingly part of a cover-up that would let the people who murdered their fellow officers go free or unquestioned. Cops are known to close ranks to protect their own . . . I can't imagine them closing ranks to protect someone who murdered one of their own. This is mostly why I've given Brown the benefit of the doubt so far - absolutely he's said things that ended up not true; but as I've said before, the difference between a lie and a mistake is intention.

Now, if their investigations are actively being blocked by the FBI, that's a different story - a story we've seen in countless Hollywood movies, too.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby stickdog99 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:33 pm

Once again, just as in Orlando, we have no clear video evidence of what happened. It just so happens that broadcastify's servers went down that night.

It just so happens the El Centro's cameras turned off during this event.

It just so happens that both shooters are conveniently dead, and the details of both events are conveniently murky.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Novem5er » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:58 pm

^^^ I'll admit that those coincidences are mighty smelly.

The thing about dead criminals, is that there's no trial and no need for evidence. Yet, in the case of Aurora, you'd think that they'd at least want more evidence for the prosecution. I guess they didn't need it; which again is awfully convenient.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:14 am

Clarence Thomas, the Dallas Bus Driver

DART bus driver Don Washington pulled right into trouble Friday at the 7-Eleven on Ross Avenue. nA crowd of more than 100 people had gathered outside the downtown store after a gunman opened fire on police during a demonstration against officer violence.

Protesters, some of them inches from police lined up in front of the store, yelled obscenities and racial slurs. "Shoot me! Shoot me!" one man cried.

Washington had volunteered to drive people to safety, away from the chaos following the gunfire. But he had second thoughts as he surveyed the growing disorder from the intersection of Ross Avenue and Griffin Street.

"I don't think I want to deal with this," he remembered thinking. "At that time, I wanted to turn around and go back."
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Washington decided to stay — and do what he could to help calm things down. The longtime bus driver was a few hours into his shift Thursday when he learned of the attack downtown. An hour later, he got to the East Transfer Center near Pearl and Live Oak streets and learned a DART officer had been killed and three others were wounded. "I was startled. I was appalled," he recalled. "Now it's on my mind heavy. What officer? Who? And I'm looking for names."

He knew Brent Thompson, the man who became DART's first officer killed in the line of duty. He knew Misty McBride, who was among the wounded. "Those officers have assisted me time after time," he said. "I shook hands with them on many occasions."

By the time Washington parked near the 7-Eleven, police were ready for trouble. Two of them had pulled their Tasers from their holsters. "I remember there was one guy who was pretty much toe to toe with the officers, and I was trying to get him on the bus," he said. "He was pretty much keeping the crowd roused, and getting him out of here would pretty much calm the situation."

Although he was unable to get the man to cooperate, he persuaded other people to board the bus. "Everybody down here: We're going to take you home," Washington shouted into the crowd as he walked through it. "We're not going to leave you stuck."

But the man who was stirring up the crowd was more interested in arguing than he was in going home. He asked Washington whether he thought justice had been served after the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin in 2012 in Florida.

"I want your honest opinion, sir," the man said.

"I can't address that, I wanna get people home," Washington said.


"Not as a black man, but as a man," his interrogator continued. "As a man. As a man."

"What's been done will be investigated," Washington countered. "We all know it's going to be investigated."

He moved on, looking for people in the crowd who were ready to leave.

Finally, he was able to drive the first load of passengers to safety as chaos continued spreading downtown.


A few buses had been on their normal routes and regular stations near El Centro, the epicenter of the mayhem. Throughout the night, transit officials struggled to locate drivers, sometimes depending on GPS to confirm their locations.

Before an officer escorted a driver and her passengers to shelter, he asked her to pull her bus into the street so police could use it as a shield.

And while officers cornered the gunman on the El Centro campus, Washington made his way back to the 7-Eleven to help shuttle more people away from danger.

The man who had argued with him before continued to defy his and officers' requests.

"He was back and forth with the officers," Washington said. "He was the guy I wanted on the bus."

Before 1:20 a.m., Washington emerged from the crowd at the 7-Eleven, walking alongside the man he was trying to get on the bus with his hand on his shoulder.


The driver was determined not to start his second trip from the store without him.

After boarding the bus briefly, the man jumped off when a woman began videotaping in front of the store. He and his friends huddled around her, yelling into the camera. But Washington followed them and herded them on the bus again.

"This guy went to the back of the bus, and he had almost like a protest of his own," Washington said. "He was standing up on the bus. He had everybody roused."

As he made his second run, the crowd at the convenience store had dwindled to about a dozen people. Amid all the noise coming from the back of his bus, Washington got his passengers across downtown and to the transfer station.


"Everybody was able to get home," Washington said. "It was a little slow, but we were pretty much on schedule."
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:26 am

Meet the New & Improved Story

Four of the five police officers fatally gunned down last week in downtown Dallas by Micah Johnson were shot from the street, said law enforcement officials with knowledge of the ongoing investigation.

The fifth officer — Dallas police Sgt. Michael Smith — was shot and killed when Johnson fired from the second floor of El Centro College, where he sought refuge, one law enforcement official told The Dallas Morning News.

The painstaking investigation continued to inch forward Thursday as the city marked one week since the deadly shooting that also wounded nine other officers and two civilians. Dallas police, the FBI, Texas Rangers and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are working together.

The law enforcement officials, who spoke on the condition that they not be identified, helped The News create the most accurate public accounting of the shootings to date.

Dallas police Officers Lorne Ahrens, Michael Krol and Patrick Zamarripa of the southwest division were all slain when Johnson fired into a crowd (note that this does not tells us WHO slew these officers) of cops and protesters around 9 p.m. July 7 on Main Street just west of Lamar Street. The shots came at the end of what had been a peaceful protest of police shootings of black men around the nation.

At least three fellow officers and one civilian, Shetamia Taylor, were wounded at the same time. Another civilian was wounded during the shooting but has not been publicly identified. (Note no mention of who actually wounded any of these people.)

Police officers originally believed that multiple shooters were firing from all sides because bullets from Johnson’s automatic or semi-automatic rifle skipped off the pavement, broke apart and wounded officers, one law enforcement official said. This contributed to the chaos as gunfire repeatedly erupted, echoing amid the buildings as people ran for safety. Police in the streets at the time said they thought they heard more than one shooter.

Johnson then made his way north on Lamar, back to where he had parked his black SUV with its hazard lights blinking.

There, he sneaked up behind DART officer Brent Thompson in front of El Centro and fired. An eyewitness video that went viral showed Thompson peering around a column as Johnson shot at him multiple times.

Johnson then shot out the glass doors of an entrance to El Centro but could not enter. He turned onto Elm Street and walked a short distance to where he gained entrance to the school. Johnson was wounded but how is still not known. Inside, he made his way upstairs and traveled through the school to a window on the second floor that overlooked Elm.

Johnson fired out the window and killed Smith in front of the 7-Eleven on the corner of Elm and Austin streets.

...

The robot was damaged but not destroyed. The robot is armed with a video camera.

Law enforcement officials also said that a photo circulating on the internet of Johnson’s body is real. The photo shows Johnson's corpse with a bloody face. He wore a tan body armor vest and a dark brown short sleeved shirt. The walls -- what appears to be sheetrock -- fell down around him.

It is unclear how many shots were fired but Brown has said that 11 officers fired their weapons that night. ...

ATF led the search of Johnson's home because he had threatened to use a great deal of explosives, the first law enforcement official said. No live explosives were found, police have said.
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby backtoiam » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:57 am

I keep asking myself the same question over, and over, and over, and over, and over. What in the hell are these perps getting ready to do to us that they think this rise in intensity is needed? They don't do this shit for no reason. Every scam has purpose. What is the purpose of this scam? Every scam is conducted to reach a goal. What is the goal?
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby stickdog99 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:59 am

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/he ... r-zone.ece

The panic had begun to subside. There was no sense in worrying anymore. The statistics final was almost over for Ramazan Arabaci's summer school session at El Centro College. The class, on the eighth floor of El Centro's Building A, normally ended at 8:30 p.m. But Arabaci was giving his students extra time to complete Thursday's exam. Apart from those wrapping up, a student waited patiently to chat with the professor, while a few more lingered in the eighth-floor hallway. Then, gunshots. Or was it something else? Tear gas canisters, perhaps?

The students were aware of the protest march going on that night. For one thing, parking was hard to get, with so many cars filing into downtown Dallas. Yet the seven students in Arabaci's class had no idea that floors below, Micah Johnson had targeted law enforcement officers in and around the El Centro campus, the result of his rampage five dead, and 11 more injured.

Three El Centro students - Daniela Ruiz, Kerry Griffiths and Karla Fierro - told The Dallas Morning News their stories Wednesday, giving a glimpse of the terror and confusion that reigned Thursday night. "We didn't know the seriousness of the situation," Ruiz said.

Griffiths, 25, arrived in the Dallas area three years ago from Kingston, Jamaica. Statistics was her last class at El Centro before heading off to TCU. Fierro and Ruiz were both full-time students at UT-Arlington, trying to squeeze some extra credits in over the summer. Fierro, 20, is studying criminology and criminal justice; Ruiz, 24, is an incoming senior in communications, with a minor in broadcasting. Griffiths was hanging out, waiting to talk with Arabaci after all the exams were in. Arabaci did not respond to The Morning News' requests.

"And while waiting, I heard a lot of noise," Griffiths said. "I knew it was shots, because I'd heard shots before. And one guy was like, 'No, this is the police trying to calm the crowd with tear gas.' But no, those were shots. There were, I think, 15 I heard at one time."

Griffiths left the classroom and headed to the other side of the building, near the elevators, to look under some blinds at the end of a hallway.

"I could see people running," she said. "I saw police out there with their guns."

At that point, though, there wasn't any panic for Griffiths. She went back to class and sat down, thinking the situation, however terrible, would be brief. So she informed Arabaci about what she saw, and the professor waited until everyone was finished, about 20 minutes or so, before the group decided to leave - on two trips of the elevator.

Fierro and three other students went first; while on their way down, one student tried to get in contact with someone on the elevator's emergency phone. As soon as the line picked up, the doors opened onto a chaotic scene in the first-floor lobby: glass everywhere, with the doors heading into the lobby from the street destroyed. An alarm was going off. What they saw was the aftermath of Johnson trying to shoot his way into El Centro twice, first on Lamar Street and again on Elm.

The four stayed in the elevator for a moment, until shouts asking if someone was on the elevator.

"We responded yes," Fierro said, "and that's when they told us to come out with our hands in the air."

Ruiz and Griffiths' group came next - to a similar reception.

"I've never had a gun pointed at me, so to have more than 10 ... it felt like a war zone," Ruiz said.



"I was scared they were going to shoot, because of panic and stuff like that," Griffiths said. "I was kind of scared to go out, too, because I'm black. ... I'm not scared of cops; it's just because of what happened. But I was thinking - because of my skin - I might go out and they might shoot me. So, I let some of my classmates go first. I didn't go last; I kind of pushed myself in the middle."

Ruiz said what happened next was like a movie - a swarm of officers guarding the exits while another officer yelled "move, move, move."

In separate batches, the groups were whisked outside, lined up against the exterior of Building A at the southeast corner of the campus.

And then, they waited.

"You could see in the garage, in front of the El Centro building, and there were a lot of snipers," Griffiths said. "Every single place you looked, you could see guns pointing out."

Someone received an email from El Centro, telling students to stay in place. The building was on lockdown; these students were already outside. El Centro officials said that around 50 students observed lockdown procedures on the seventh and eighth floors of Building A. El Centro officer John Abbott, injured by glass shards when Johnson attempted to shoot his way in, helped evacuate 30 students from in the seventh floor at some point during the standoff.

One of Ruiz' classmates took to his smart phone - Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, e-mail - trying to piece together what was happening.

No one, including law enforcement, seemed to have a good understanding of what was underway, the trio said. Was there another shooter? What about bombs? Was there a subject on the loose?

"To see that all around you, you don't even know what to think," Ruiz said.

Under guard, they stayed up against Building A for 30 minutes - until it was deemed safe to move them across Main Street into the bowels of the Texas Club parking garage.

And then, a two-hour wait.

Eventually moved from a stairwell to the basement, the students were questioned individually by police: "Did you see the shooter? Had we heard anything of this before?"


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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:42 am

The Brainwashington Post is now really struggling to catapult the propaganda. When reading this, just remember that The Deceased Designated Culprit has been tried and found guilty by no one, except "law-enforcement sources", most of them unnamed.

During Army days, Dallas shooter was a mediocre marksman

By Frank Bajak, Garance Burke, Reese Dunklin and Juliet Linderman | AP July 15 at 2:01 AM

DALLAS — Micah Johnson was a mediocre marksman, seemingly more interested in eliciting laughs from friends in his Army Reserve unit than in honing his infantry skills, former squad members say.

But the young black [??] man showed striking tactical acumen in the deftly choreographed assault that killed five police officers in downtown Dallas last week during a peaceful Black Lives Matter protest.

Such was his skill that police thought multiple snipers were attacking. Moving stealthily in body armor, Johnson [sic] displayed textbook tactics, taking cover behind columns, skirting the line of fire, assaulting rather than retreating after his initial volleys.

“He kept the police at bay and was able to flank an officer during an assault, a tactic that he was trained on,” said Retired Army Sgt. Gilbert Fischbach, Johnson’s former squad leader in Texas. “He certainly had enthusiasm and motivation that he never had while I was training him.”

Fischbach and other former comrades were stunned to learn that it was Johnson who pulled off the attack in revenge for police killings of black men. The popular, happy-go-lucky friend they remembered as cultivating many colorblind friendships had [according to authorities] become a police-killer whose own life was taken by a robot-delivered bomb.

Some who knew him say Johnson was never the same after his best friend in the 284th Engineer Company filed a sexual harassment complaint against him in Afghanistan in 2014. Accused of stealing the female soldier’s dirty panties, he was disarmed, placed under 24-hour escort and sent home early, his aspirations to a military career over.

The Mississippi-born Johnson, whose parents divorced in 1996 when he was 5, had dreamed as a boy of being a police officer or a soldier, relatives said.

Friends and acquaintances described him to The Associated Press as a gregarious, even “goofy” extrovert — a far cry from the man authorities described as a loner and President Barack Obama called “demented.”

Fischbach said most of Johnson’s Army Reserve friends were white, and he never showed any signs of racial dissension.

He was not bookish, preferring Xbox to academics. Johnson graduated in the lower fifth of his high school class and withdrew from community college in 2011, three weeks after registering for classes.

One friend, Justin Garner, recalled seeing a dark side to Johnson when Johnson called asking to be picked up at a party. Johnson said he got into an argument and was afraid he might hurt someone, Garner said.

No one saw it coming, Fischbach said, when Johnson was caught stealing the panties of the female squad mate who had been his buddy.

Fischbach thought the “betrayal” revealed “something deeply rooted in him that was wrong.”

In her complaint, the woman sought a protective order and asked that Johnson receive “mental help” but neither apparently happened. Johnson got an honorable discharge in April 2015, according to the attorney who handled the case, Bradford Glendening.

Johnson was deeply changed when he returned home, his mother Delphene Johnson told TheBlaze, a news site founded by conservative talk show host Glenn Beck.

His father, James, said he “became a loner” and “didn’t like people.”

By April 2015, Johnson was joining protests over apparently unprovoked police killings of black men and showing interest in black nationalist groups.

He visited the Dallas-based Huey P. Newton Gun Club, which has carried out armed citizen patrols of Dallas neighborhoods, and met the owner of the city’s Pan-African Connection Bookstore. The people he talked with in both places said he seemed polite and level-headed.

Johnson’s father recalled talking to his son about police brutality and his son’s distrust of white cops. But neither parent recalled him ever talking about killing police officers.

“My message to him,” his father said in TheBlaze interview, “was that there’s good and bad in everybody, every race. But law enforcement is the law, and ultimately you have to obey it.”

As videos of black men killed by police continued to surface, authorities said, Johnson made plans for an assault, keeping a journal of combat tactics and gathering bomb-making materials.

The day of his bloody rampage, he told his mother he was heading out to the protest but revealed little else, his mother told TheBlaze.

“I told him to stay out of trouble ... and he said, ‘I will,’ ” she recalled. His last words were “I love you.”


Hours later, cornered by police downtown, Johnson mocked them. [,authorities said] He said he wanted to kill whites, especially white officers, and asked how many he had shot.

Learning what had happened, his mother could not believe it.

“I was like, you know, you’ve got to be lying. Not my son. He got upset when we ran over a squirrel.”


Associated Press writers Nomaan Merchant and Will Weissert in Dallas and AP researchers Monika Mathur in Washington and Rhonda Shafner and Jennifer Farrar in New York contributed to this report.

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:09 am

Comrades described him as a bad soldier, and during a shooting test, he returned the lowest possible rank.

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'I loved him to death, but that guy was not really a good soldier. There were certain technical skills you need as a soldier that he was lacking, like shooting, if you can believe it,' [his friend and Army colleague Justin] Garner said.

Johnson did poorly in the required rifle test, scoring the lowest rank of 'marksman' after shooting at silhouetted targets from as far away as 300 meters, according to Garner, who said he [i.e.Garner, not Johnson] got the highest ranking.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... grace.html


Lots of very strange details in this report, about the woman he allegedly "sexually harrassed" in the army by stealing her panties:

Fischbach said Johnson developed a crush on a squad mate when the two met in 2009 in Texas.

They became best friends, but she made it clear that it would not grow into anything more intimate, he said.

'They were very good friends. Pretty much inseparable,' he said. 'We even had to break them up a few times' because it was distracting others.

Johnson's mother, Delphene, recalled that the young woman had visited and stayed overnight at the family's house in Mesquite numerous times over two years.

Johnson and the woman even 'slept in the same bed,' his mother told TheBlaze
, a news site founded by conservative talk show host Glenn Beck.

But the relationship took a sharp turn after she filed a sexual harassment complaint against Johnson while they were in Afghanistan.

The AP is not identifying the woman because of the complaint, but it has made repeated efforts to talk to her and Johnson's family.

'She bought me birthday and Christmas gifts,' Delphene Johnson said in the only interview she has granted.

Johnson's mother gave a different account of the fractured relationship between her son and the woman.

Once overseas, the woman had done 'things that she should not have been doing with someone in a higher ranking. He called her out on it,' the mother said in TheBlaze interview.

Fischbach said he knew of no evidence to substantiate that claim.


[...]

Johnson originally faced removal from the Army altogether, said Texas-based defense attorney Bradford Glendening, which was 'highly unusual' since sexual harassment cases typically wind up with a soldier receiving counseling.

The case ended in September 2014, when Johnson signed paperwork agreeing to receive a 'less than honorable' discharge from the Army, Glendening said.

But Johnson wasn't discharged until April 2015, and Glendening said last week he was told that Johnson received an honorable discharge.

The Army has not released Johnson's discharge forms and has refused to answer any questions while it reviews the case.

Glendening is no longer discussing the case either, saying he could face military prosecution if he violates a gag order.


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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby Elihu » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:31 am

The Brainwashington Post is now really struggling to catapult the propaganda


i don't think so. i'd say they're doing just fine
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:07 pm

Elihu, nothing will stop the hacks from catapulting the propaganda, whatever the story happens to be. They have salaries, mortgages and school fees to worry about. Nothing else concerns them. "Truth" is now a joke word, "truther" a term of contempt. Regurgitating the Authoritay is what journalists now do for a living. Why would they risk doing anything else? Times are hard and getting harder all the time.

Any film of that historic "brick corner" yet? When does the school re-open?
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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

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Maps of El Centro College campus: http://tinyurl.com/hb9zx8k
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