Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby backtoiam » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:33 pm

I usually attempt to post articles in their entirety for data base purposes but I cannot do justice to the formatting this guy uses. I would butcher it up. This guys articles are dense with links because he does a lot of research and ties a lot of loose ends when he writes. It takes a while to fully digest one of his articles.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/08/2-powerful-videos-6-minutes-clinton-lying-looting-rogue-secretary-state-conducted-election-fraud-escalate-dictator.html
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Grizzly » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:45 pm

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While I listen to this guy trying not to hold an opinion, but being open to what he has to say, I'm struck at how much his demeanour reminds me of Erik Prince of Blackwater fame... and it doesn't help in the last minutes of the Q&A where he says, (at the 15:45 mark) ..."there's no difference between patriotism and law" ...something about the way he glints and smiles while citing that, made my skin crawl.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Grizzly » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:34 pm

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:15 am

I was so fucking angry about this last night:

Hillary Clinton Picks TPP and Fracking Advocate To Set Up Her White House

TWO BIG ISSUES dogged Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary: the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement (TPP) and fracking. She had a long history of supporting both.

Under fire from Bernie Sanders, she came out against the TPP and took a more critical position on fracking. But critics wondered if this was a sincere conversion or simply campaign rhetoric.

Now, in two of the most significant personnel moves she will ever make, she has signaled a lack of sincerity.

She chose as her vice presidential running mate Tim Kaine, who voted to authorize fast-track powers for the TPP and praised the agreement just two days before he was chosen.

And now she has named former Colorado Democratic Senator and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to be the chair of her presidential transition team — the group tasked with helping set up the new administration should she win in November. That includes identifying, selecting, and vetting candidates for over 4,000 presidential appointments.

As a senator, Salazar was widely considered a reliable friend to the oil, gas, ranching and mining industries. As interior secretary, he opened the Arctic Ocean for oil drilling, and oversaw the botched response to the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Since returning to the private sector, he has been an ardent supporter of the TPP, while pushing back against curbs on fracking.


The TPP would enhance the ability of corporations to sue to overturn environmental regulations, but Salazar helped a pro-TPP front group, the “Progressive Coalition for American Jobs,” argue the opposite.

In a November 2015 USA Today op-ed that Salazar co-wrote with Bruce Babbitt, the two men argued that the TPP would be the “the greenest trade deal ever” by promoting sustainable energy. Both Salazar and Babbitt cited their former positions as interior secretaries to boost their credibility.

The following month, Salazar authored a Denver Post op-ed with two former Colorado governors also affiliated with PCAJ, arguing that the agreement would protect the state’s scenic beauty: “And as a state rich with natural wonder and a long history of conservation, Colorado can be proud that the TPP includes the highest environmental standards of any trade agreement in history.”

Shortly after leaving his post at the Obama administration, Salazar appeared at an oil and gas industry conference to argue in favor of fracking.

“We know that, from everything we’ve seen, there’s not a single case where hydraulic fracking has created an environmental problem for anyone,” Salazar told the attendees, who included the vice president of BP America, another keynote speaker at the conference. “We need to make sure that story is told.”


The EPA acknowledged in 2015 that fracking has contaminated drinking water wells. And methane, a gas with a climate impact 86 times that of carbon dioxide, is known to leak from fracked gas infrastructure.

Salazar is on the leadership team of a business group in Colorado fighting against a pair of ballot initiatives that could limit fracking. The Denver Post referred to the group as the “political equivalent of a tested military reserve unit that the [Denver Chamber of Commerce] calls into action when it believes business interests in the state face a serious threat.”

Environmentalists are alarmed. “If Clinton plans to effectively tackle climate change, the last thing her team needs is an industry insider like Ken Salazar. Salazar’s track record illustrates time and again that he is on the side of big industry, and not of the people,” Greenpeace USA Democracy Campaign Director Molly Dorozenski said in a statement.

Salazar currently works as partner at WilmerHale, a D.C.-based law and lobbying firm. His clients are not public, but his firm lists his job as giving “policy advice to national and international clients, particularly on matters at the intersection of law, business and public policy.” Staff at the firm have been involved in TPP negotiations.

Members of the presidential transition team are not required to disclose their finances — meaning we may never know if and how much Salazar is paid for all of the advocacy outside his salary at WilmerHale.

Salazar has long been criticized for his connections to the industries he regulates. For example, in a 2010 Salon post, Intercept co-founding editor Glenn Greenwald highlighted Salazar’s connections to BP, noting that “even as BP continues to spew oil in unfathomable quantities into the Gulf,” Salazar was waiving environmental reviews and approving new wells in the Gulf of Mexico.


Fucking piece of shit. Trump is throwing it and the people and planet are being fucked. This dumb shit wanted to honor the Manhattan Project with a national park.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:16 am

Defenestrate that motherfucker.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby 82_28 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 2:53 pm

Hahaha. True, true, Luther. I was just a young buck back in Colorado but I noted he was disliked by both Democrats and Republicans. It was right around the time Ben Nighthorse Campbell switched from D to R.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Nighthorse_Campbell

Nobody could understand how a native American would do such a thing.

I have already said it, but I personally know friends of the Clintons and are very active in the Colorado politics bullshit. Colorado is, believe it or not, a tangled mess -- like what else isn't? Colorado has always been deeply conflicted politically. You got Denver, the resort towns and then all the rest. Which isn't much. The second largest city is the single hot bed of right wing causes in the country. But, point being, I bet you could dredge up a ton of shit on Clinton of which all I would be able to do is give anecdotes. Salazar played to the right wing radio set which was the most liberal station in the city (850 KOA) a looooooooooooooong time ago. See Alan Berg.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:25 pm

There's a corruption movie for each and every state (and 50+ just for NYNJ).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTiIi3x-N4s

Damned if this trailer doesn't make 2004 look OLD OLD OLD.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby dada » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:23 pm

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:36 am

Dada I've definitely seen stuff exactly like that being touted around in professional circles.

With the manqués Salazar and Kaine, let's try to guess her Supreme Court justice appointment.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby FourthBase » Sat Aug 20, 2016 6:37 pm

It's the alt-right douchebag at Anonymous Conservative (one of the two or three alt-right douchebags I have the stomach to browse semi-regularly) but up to half of this entry overlaps with an RI perspective. Obviously people here, including me, will strain an ocular muscle rolling their eyes at the all-the-bad-guys-are-leftists bullshit and Soros-is-the-almighty-wizard tripe. But if this dark web thing is even somewhat legit, then it would take the cake as far as Hillary Being Seriously Dangerous, so, IMO, it belongs in this thread as unpalatable food for thought.

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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Luther Blissett » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:49 am

That wasn't on the dark web, it was just 4chan. I believe the screenshots were posted about a dozen pages back. The poster went on to holler about some racist shit towards the end.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby NeonLX » Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:03 pm

backtoiam » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:33 pm wrote:I usually attempt to post articles in their entirety for data base purposes but I cannot do justice to the formatting this guy uses. I would butcher it up. This guys articles are dense with links because he does a lot of research and ties a lot of loose ends when he writes. It takes a while to fully digest one of his articles.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/08/2-powerful-videos-6-minutes-clinton-lying-looting-rogue-secretary-state-conducted-election-fraud-escalate-dictator.html


Fucking WOW. Amazing stuff. "The Emperor's New Clothes", indeed.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:44 pm

Image

Army pulls training slide that named Clinton as 'threat"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/24/politics/ ... on-threat/
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby kool maudit » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:14 am

I mistakenly published a few stray thoughts in the Trump thread to much aggrieved emoting, so I learned my lesson and will remain here.

Anyway, here is Matt Yglesias – kind of a dubious little sea-cucumber, but a Democratic partisan nonetheless – on Hillary's neocon backers and the insults they have absorbed from the Trump campaign:

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/17/12494052/h ... on-neocons

"Trump hasn’t even tried to court neoconservative support. On the contrary, he’s gone to substantial lengths to exaggerate the extent of his historical differences with them, pretending to have opposed regime change operations in Iraq and Libya that he in fact supported."

This an interesting line because it identifies Trump's slipperiness and used-car salesman dishonesty as well as a curious obduracy on the part of his campaign: he won't make a play for these guys. That's an interesting choice in Republican politics.

Anyway, both candidates exemplify American decline, but Clinton's rot is much more structural, much more deeply embedded in the columns of empire. It will probably lead to more suffering, you know, net total. It's a real sort of geopolitical corruption, a real world-scaled kind of corruption.

And I do have to wonder why those who are so compassionate for Muslims potentially losing an emigration-destination are so strangely blank when it comes to Muslims who, like the 18 mentioned in the Atlantic piece linked below, are being blown to pieces in the no-man's-lands created by neoconservative foreign policy.

Blown to pieces, rounded up and sold into sex slavery, burned in cages, dissolved in acid...

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... st/480714/

The US even had Kerry out terming the slaughter of Shia Muslims by ISIS as a genocide, but I mean, as soon as ISIS or similar gets cornered in Aleppo with all their American weapons, and the fire is raining down, they suddenly show us little boys and cry stop. So, I mean, fuck the Western consensus sideways.

And may the one closest to its norms be defeated in November.
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Re: Hillary Clinton is Seriously Dangerous

Postby Searcher08 » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:58 am

kool maudit » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:14 pm wrote:I mistakenly published a few stray thoughts in the Trump thread to much aggrieved emoting, so I learned my lesson and will remain here.

Anyway, here is Matt Yglesias – kind of a dubious little sea-cucumber, but a Democratic partisan nonetheless – on Hillary's neocon backers and the insults they have absorbed from the Trump campaign:

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/17/12494052/h ... on-neocons

"Trump hasn’t even tried to court neoconservative support. On the contrary, he’s gone to substantial lengths to exaggerate the extent of his historical differences with them, pretending to have opposed regime change operations in Iraq and Libya that he in fact supported."

This an interesting line because it identifies Trump's slipperiness and used-car salesman dishonesty as well as a curious obduracy on the part of his campaign: he won't make a play for these guys. That's an interesting choice in Republican politics.

Anyway, both candidates exemplify American decline, but Clinton's rot is much more structural, much more deeply embedded in the columns of empire. It will probably lead to more suffering, you know, net total. It's a real sort of geopolitical corruption, a real world-scaled kind of corruption.

And I do have to wonder why those who are so compassionate for Muslims potentially losing an emigration-destination are so strangely blank when it comes to Muslims who, like the 18 mentioned in the Atlantic piece linked below, are being blown to pieces in the no-man's-lands created by neoconservative foreign policy.

Blown to pieces, rounded up and sold into sex slavery, burned in cages, dissolved in acid...

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... st/480714/

The US even had Kerry out terming the slaughter of Shia Muslims by ISIS as a genocide, but I mean, as soon as ISIS or similar gets cornered in Aleppo with all their American weapons, and the fire is raining down, they suddenly show us little boys and cry stop. So, I mean, fuck the Western consensus sideways.

And may the one closest to its norms be defeated in November.


I've noticed all sort of 'resonances' happening as we get nearer the election, with a lot of people who had previously been in a "this is a two party kayfabe, this shit-show itself is what needs to change" now veering over to polarised positions "STOP HILARY! or STOP TRUMP! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS! HENNY PENNY! HOW CAN YOU LET THIS HAPPEN?! And the more that this happens, I'm noticing less and less nuance and more and more hysteria. On the left (many friends of mine are US Liberal or Progressive), debate and discussion has more or less stopped on Facebook. It is more like exchanging of pre-printed 'meme / article' tickets which are then rapidly adopted, just by mimesis. So on a Monday, what is a piss-poor Talking Points Memo thought piece, has, by Thursday has become accepted truth, e.g. that Trump is an actual Russian agent working for Putin.

There has been very little coverage of the Youtube shitlords and cringe vids phenom, so it might be worth starting a thread on that - this place is getting more echochamber-y than an early Elvis track.



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