2016 Election Day Night

[stickdog99]

Trump isn't anti-establishment. He is the establishment.

He's clearly an outsider as in, he's not a career politician. You can't just gloss over that. That's not how things usually work. A non-politician does not normally win Presidential elections. (I did read your entire comment, I'm not just seizing on this one small part.)

Of course he's wealthy and has connections, I mean, what would a true outsider look like? A farmer from Peoria nobody's ever heard of? There are barriers to entry to the Presidency that few outsiders are positioned to overcome, and he is one of the few.

Anyway. I am indeed hoping he gets things done because I agree with what he proposes to do.

Tell us please exactly what he has proposed to do that you agree with?

Build an unbuildable wall?

Lower taxes on billionaires?

Anything else?

"I don't know what I will actually do, but I know it will be the awesomest!"

[stickdog99]

ok I'll give you that but what about gays loosing their rights?

Honestly, that's way down on my personal priority list. I understand why it would be more important to someone who is personally affected by it. I'm a Libertarian-type social liberal, I think gays should be able to do whatever they want. But I'm not going to vote against someone who checks all the boxes on my high-priority issues over something down at the bottom of my list. There's no perfect candidate.

Yeah, because the basic human rights of others are so trivial. Especially compared to big, important things like lowering business taxes to "allow" large multinational corporations to have their symbolic headquarters in America.

[brekin]

We needed an "outsider". Someone who wasn't "part of the system". "Anti-Establishment"

Washington (CNN)To shape his administration, President-elect Donald Trump is drawing squarely from the "swamp" he has pledged to drain.
Trump's transition team is staffed with long-time Washington experts and lobbyists from K Street, think tanks and political offices.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/ ... index.html

It's a far cry from Trump's campaign, which ended only Tuesday night, and message that he would "drain the swamp" in Washington. He has advocated congressional term limits and proposed a "five-point plan for ethics reform" that included strengthening restrictions on lobbying, including five-year bans for members and staff of the executive branch and Congress from lobbying, and expanding the definition of lobbyist to prevent more revolving door activity.
But he has so far fully embraced lobbyists within his transition, and all signs point to a heavy influence from longtime Washington Republican circles on his transition. And with Trump mostly skipping detailed policy proposals during his campaign, these they can have a powerful impact on his agenda.
Why it's difficult to predict what Trump will actually do as president
Why it's difficult to predict what Trump will actually do as president
Leaders in his transition include former Rep. Mike Rogers, former Reagan Attorney General and Heritage Foundation fellow Edwin Meese, former President of Heritage Edwin Feulner, former Bush administration official and lobbyist Christine Ciccone, former Dick Cheney adviser Ado Machida, former Senate Budget Committee staffer Eric Ueland and former Sen. Jeff Sessions' chief of staff Rick Dearborn. The effort is chaired by New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Trump counts former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and Sessions as close advisers.
Lower level staffers assigned with crafting different departments are also heavily drawn from K Street, the center of lobbying in Washington, and congressional staff, according to a staff organizational chart obtained by CNN.
Welcome to Trump's America
Sources close to the operation say Sessions and the conservative Heritage Foundation have had a strong role in shaping the transition, in addition to staffers from the Bush administration, K Street and Capitol Hill.
At a Heritage Foundation event Thursday, John Yoo, a Berkeley Law professor and scholar at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, got a warm reception from the crowd by cracking about the closeness.
"I'm surprised there are so many people here because I thought everyone at Heritage was working over at transition headquarters," Yoo said on the panel about Trump's win. "I asked the taxi cab driver to take me to Trump transition headquarters and he dropped me off here, instead."
The crowd let out an appreciative laugh.
Insiders seek to sway Trump's policy direction
Trump's policy is likely to be shaped largely by Republican stalwarts. Trump's policy positions throughout the election have been thinner than traditional campaigns, and he has made contradictory statements at times or has changed his state policy goals amid criticism.
Meese told CNN that in general, the transition is going "very well," and suspected the heavy involvement from key Heritage personnel shows that his think tank will have a strong influence on Trump. With Trump having less experience in some areas of policy, he will have to draw on others' expertise to craft his positions, Meese said.
Early in the transition process, staff including Chairman Chris Christie held a series of meetings on K Street in Washington with different industry groups and key lobbyists.
How a bill becomes a wall
How a bill becomes a wall
Sources in those meetings said the conversations were top level, but when asked about specific policies, the transition team signaled they would be open to input from K Street.
In one financial services meeting, an attendee asked about Trump's past positions on reinstating Glass-Steagall, legislation that regulated banks. While the GOP platform called for reinstating Glass-Steagall and Trump's campaign manager at the time promoted it, Christie told the financial services lobbyists gathered that Trump is often open to changing his mind when he gets input from people with expertise.
Trump meets with Obama at the White House
Lobbyists around Washington feel that the Trump administration could be heavily influenced by their input, as his campaign's policy positions were considerably thinner than Hillary Clinton's, and some of his promises could be open to interpretation.
It also helps K Street that the Republican Party is far from united on policy. Establishment Republicans and allies of House Speaker Paul Ryan expect Ryan's "Better Way" agenda to drive much of Trump's administration, as Ryan has been working to promote it for years in the House and has even toured the country touting it.
But social conservatives and farther right Republicans like the Heritage circle have seen hope in Trump's campaign promises and closeness with Sessions -- signaling hard-line positions on immigration and social issues.
Fighting with K Street to fill jobs
Both sides are trying to influence his policy development and have representation on the transition team. Trump's Cabinet appointments could signal which way he's leaning.
Trump strongly considering Steve Bannon for chief of staff
Donald Trump strongly considering Steve Bannon for chief of staff
A senior aide to Vice President-elect Mike Pence said that the former congressman would have a strong role in Trump's administration working with Congress and on legislation. But the aide also said that the transition would have to find people outside of Washington to staff the administration.
"This campaign was an outsider campaign. It would be foolish to go ahead and place a whole bunch of DC insiders into roles, right?" the adviser said. "So it'll be a mix."
Trump is also competing with lobbying shops themselves for some of the top talent in Washington. Having prepared mostly for a Hillary Clinton presidency, Washington had been hiring Democratic talent. After Trump's surprising win, K Street is also trying to staff up with the best GOP policy staff from Capitol Hill and around DC.
James Wallner, group vice president of research at Heritage, said he is encouraged that Trump will heed the recommendations of his organization for two reasons. One is that their ideals line up with many of his campaign promises, and two is that Heritage has made an effort to craft all of their recommendations in an easy-to-use manner.
"You don't have time to digest a huge tome of material to have some moment of enlightenment to say, 'Oh I've figured out how to solve our health care problem.' You really need actionable type information that you can then process and make up your own mind on how to proceed and how to advise people to proceed," Wallner said. "As long as President-elect Trump appoints people to this administration that are going to do things that are consistent with the promises he made while campaigning for this office that the American people clearly supported, then I'm optimistic about where we're going."

[8bitagent]

Trump isn't anti-establishment. He is the establishment.

He's clearly an outsider as in, he's not a career politician. You can't just gloss over that. That's not how things usually work. A non-politician does not normally win Presidential elections. (I did read your entire comment, I'm not just seizing on this one small part.)
Of course he's wealthy and has connections, I mean, what would a true outsider look like? A farmer from Peoria nobody's ever heard of? There are barriers to entry to the Presidency that few outsiders are positioned to overcome, and he is one of the few.
Anyway. I am indeed hoping he gets things done because I agree with what he proposes to do.

Theres no doubt he has all the hallmarks of the ultimate RI candidate, on paper...a television actor turned pres candidate talking about 9/11 Truth and Saudis, attacking Bush for orchestrating Iraq war lies, making television ads calling out "the global elite/nwo/stringpullers", talking about his rivals dad involved in JFK, and pretty much a literal pipeline to Alex Jones and the conspiracy world.I just think people are worried about his playing to strong elements that may not exactly be good for civil liberties.

The ultimate RI candidate on paper? Have we been reading the same forum?

Trump is the stock caricature of the villainous capitalist, and has been for literally decades.The little guy on the Monopoly game is a socialist compared to him. A television actor? He's been playing himself for also literally decades. Even if he's constructed his identity from spare parts of other evil barons, he's fused into it a long time ago.

Look, Freitag voted for Trump because he agrees with him. Fine, I can accept that. Even though I doubt Freitag is part of the Trump family and that is the only people who are going to benefit. But acting like Trump was the person who was going to use RI's data dump as his State of the Union speech is fucking ridiculous.He was honest with his base and played with the fringe. If parts of the fringe are now having buyer's remorse, well they were the stupid ones who traded the country for a conspiracy infomercial.

No Brekin, Im saying from say, what we were thinking in 2005/2006 at the height of the anti Bush era ...a populist candidate talking about Iraq war lies, evil Bushes, 9/11 truth, the fed, global elites, etc that ...hey, sounds like an "RI" candidate

Of course, the very Bush Cheney neocons he humiliated and opposed seem to now be rushing to be a part of a Trump campaign. Glenn Beck went from apologizing for his right wing bullshittery and hating BLM Tuesday night on MSNBC to congratulating Trump and wanting to support him today.

RI data dump stuff was used to derail Clinton. I noticed a number of Black and Latino Christians were suddenly turned off to Clinton when all that "spirit cooking" "satanic/pedo" stuff came out the week before the election. Regardless if it was true or not. Alex Jones had a direct hand in the Trump win, as did many other conspiracy sites who went full tilt Trump.
It was genius what he did...to scrape off Bernies base in the midwest and east coast rust belt, spread conspiracies against both the neocons and Clintons, and base his presidency on 4chan and insanity.

[Luther Blissett]

Trump isn't anti-establishment. He is the establishment.

He's clearly an outsider as in, he's not a career politician. You can't just gloss over that. That's not how things usually work. A non-politician does not normally win Presidential elections. (I did read your entire comment, I'm not just seizing on this one small part.)

Of course he's wealthy and has connections, I mean, what would a true outsider look like? A farmer from Peoria nobody's ever heard of? There are barriers to entry to the Presidency that few outsiders are positioned to overcome, and he is one of the few.

Anyway. I am indeed hoping he gets things done because I agree with what he proposes to do.

Tell us please exactly what he has proposed to do that you agree with?

Build an unbuildable wall?

Lower taxes on billionaires?

Anything else?

"I don't know what I will actually do, but I know it will the awesomest!"

De-automate all of the automated jobs from now into the future.

[Belligerent Savant]

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We needed an "outsider". Someone who wasn't "part of the system". "Anti-Establishment"

Washington (CNN)To shape his administration, President-elect Donald Trump is drawing squarely from the "swamp" he has pledged to drain.
Trump's transition team is staffed with long-time Washington experts and lobbyists from K Street, think tanks and political offices.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/ ... index.html

And this should be surprising to NO ONE here.

Yes, I get the disdain for the optics of TRUMP as a presidential brand (though I'm admittedly flummoxed by some of the emotions on display here --- have we become an offshoot of FB, for chrissakes?), but rest assured folks, he will be absorbed by the EMPIRE just like the rest, and -- particularly given the spooked look in his eyes after his chat with 'Bama -- will dutifully take his place, perhaps with a few Trump-like accents thrown in to keep up the theatrics of it all, and perform his ROLE.

Also: I'd venture a guess and say that wire-hangers won't need to be deployed anytime soon, nor marriage licenses rescinded, despite the proclaimed horrors of such scenarios transpiring under the Trump brand.

We'll find out soon enough, won't we?

[brekin]

Trump isn't anti-establishment. He is the establishment.

He's clearly an outsider as in, he's not a career politician. You can't just gloss over that. That's not how things usually work. A non-politician does not normally win Presidential elections. (I did read your entire comment, I'm not just seizing on this one small part.)
Of course he's wealthy and has connections, I mean, what would a true outsider look like? A farmer from Peoria nobody's ever heard of? There are barriers to entry to the Presidency that few outsiders are positioned to overcome, and he is one of the few.
Anyway. I am indeed hoping he gets things done because I agree with what he proposes to do.

Theres no doubt he has all the hallmarks of the ultimate RI candidate, on paper...a television actor turned pres candidate talking about 9/11 Truth and Saudis, attacking Bush for orchestrating Iraq war lies, making television ads calling out "the global elite/nwo/stringpullers", talking about his rivals dad involved in JFK, and pretty much a literal pipeline to Alex Jones and the conspiracy world.I just think people are worried about his playing to strong elements that may not exactly be good for civil liberties.

The ultimate RI candidate on paper? Have we been reading the same forum?

Trump is the stock caricature of the villainous capitalist, and has been for literally decades.The little guy on the Monopoly game is a socialist compared to him. A television actor? He's been playing himself for also literally decades. Even if he's constructed his identity from spare parts of other evil barons, he's fused into it a long time ago.

Look, Freitag voted for Trump because he agrees with him. Fine, I can accept that. Even though I doubt Freitag is part of the Trump family and that is the only people who are going to benefit. But acting like Trump was the person who was going to use RI's data dump as his State of the Union speech is fucking ridiculous.He was honest with his base and played with the fringe. If parts of the fringe are now having buyer's remorse, well they were the stupid ones who traded the country for a conspiracy infomercial.

No Brekin, Im saying from say, what we were thinking in 2005/2006 at the height of the anti Bush era ...a populist candidate talking about Iraq war lies, evil Bushes, 9/11 truth, the fed, global elites, etc that ...hey, sounds like an "RI" candidate
Of course, the very Bush Cheney neocons he humiliated and opposed seem to now be rushing to be a part of a Trump campaign. Glenn Beck went from apologizing for his right wing bullshittery and hating BLM Tuesday night on MSNBC to congratulating Trump and wanting to support him today.

RI data dump stuff was used to derail Clinton. I noticed a number of Black and Latino Christians were suddenly turned off to Clinton when all that "spirit cooking" "satanic/pedo" stuff came out the week before the election. Regardless if it was true or not. Alex Jones had a direct hand in the Trump win, as did many other conspiracy sites who went full tilt Trump. It was genius what he did...to scrape off Bernies base in the midwest and east coast rust belt, spread conspiracies against both the neocons and Clintons, and base his presidency on 4chan and insanity.

Ok, got you. Thanks for clarifying. I was reading what you wrote as RI endorsed candidate or RI-like candidate which may not be your intention. And I still think RI endorsed or RI type message or as you say "ultimate RI candidate on paper" is something we don't want floating around. I do believe some RI people did think that very thing, some who are still vocal, some are surprising quiet as of late. But it was far from consensus.

And Trump was never ultimate RI candidate, he was probably the ultimate InfoWars candidate if anything. If he had been speaking like Jeff Wells from Trump Tower 6 months after 9/11 happened then I think there would be more credence. But things move too fast now though. Too many people get committed to certain narratives/conspiracies to explain everything and stop thinking. 2016 was not 2006. Someone with status just making gestures "that we should" look into 9/11, UFO's, JFK assassination, etc. is just pandering now. And you don't even have to say or do anything specific, but just make the slightest gesture, nod, in those directions and the isolated and lonely conspiracy base will fall on their knees in gratitude and disbelief. Trump was masterful at "thinking out loud" what "some people are saying". It's like a super model saying she's heard the the silver age of comic books was the best. What does it cost her? What does she gain?

Talk is cheap, but it can buy you so much. Trump was probably always the real Establishment candidate, but by proxy. It's like the mafia going, you know people want to get tough on crime, they want investigations, they want the hits to stop, so lets run one of our guys as Attorney General and have him rail against us and even take down some guys so it looks like things are changing but now we have infiltration at the very top. (I wonder if this didn't happen with Giuliani who himself was from a mob family.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudy_Giuliani#Early_life

You know its probably possible Trump could demolish the opposition, because it was probably akin to the Apprentice where they had been working for him or his bosses for some time. He hasn't come to challenge the system, but to streamline it. So, instead of Trump being the anti-establishment candidate, he may just be the establishments downsizer. Jeb, your fired! Hilary, your fired! Gingrich, your hired. Christie, your hired.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Interesting comments on youtube Re: the above clip; a few examples:

Liam Redmond1 day ago
Bill Burr's right about Hillary Clinton and the Bilderberg meetings though

Liam Redmond1 hour ago
+roxoto Thats right. Either that or they've got an unhealthy fixation with actual pizza.

soberpunk1 day ago
You do know he was poking fun at the idea, right?

Liam Redmond1 day ago
+soberpunk He's not actually. He just has to make it seem kinda humorous because its such a foreign concept to so many people. He mentioned it the last time he was on as well. He brought it up himself out of nowhere for God's sake. If he was poking fun at it it would've had some kinda context within the rest of the conversation. You're reacting like the rest of the people in the audience btw. They're all going "You can't be serious" too. Listen to Burr's podcasts he goes on about this stuff all the time and he's not just poking fun at the idea.

soberpunk1 day ago
+Liam Redmond Look up the definition of Satire.

Liam Redmond22 hours ago (edited)
+soberpunk I get what satire is. For Burr to be satirical about this the idea would have had to have proper context within the conversation beforehand but the Bilderberg thing was mentioned completely out of left-field. It wasn't relying on a familiar premise to people. The definition of satire includes the words "in the context of", but there was no particular context for what Burr was bringing up. If they had been talking about conspiracy theories or something and then Burr brought up about the Bilderberg meetings and Hillary Clinton in a not so serious way then it would possibly be satire. However in this case he mentioned Bilderberg and the idea was so completely foreign to people that it came across as awkwardly comedic and he had to rely on making it seem like a semi traditional joke.

ibladesi17 hours ago (edited)
Yeah it was kind of disturbing how Conan tried to shut that down... but Bill Burr knocked it out of the park either way. Worst part was when I remembered how they were announcing Patrice O'Neal benefit tickets/dates then and there. Sort of good thing Conan screwed up the website.. I got my tix - panic buy style (now how to get to NY and scheduling). Patrice is the best best best. I'd give an eye to benefit his fam. .. Oh.. and http://billburr.com/podcast/ for him talking about the weirdness of doing this show.

Anthony James1 day ago
"...they dress up like Yaks and have those Eyes Wide Shut parties." XD LMFAO im crying

[8bitagent]

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We needed an "outsider". Someone who wasn't "part of the system". "Anti-Establishment"

Washington (CNN)To shape his administration, President-elect Donald Trump is drawing squarely from the "swamp" he has pledged to drain.
Trump's transition team is staffed with long-time Washington experts and lobbyists from K Street, think tanks and political offices.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/ ... index.html

And this should be surprising to NO ONE here.

Yes, I get the disdain for the optics of TRUMP as a presidential brand (though I'm admittedly flummoxed by some of the emotions on display here --- have we become an offshoot of FB, for chrissakes?), but rest assured folks, he will be absorbed by the EMPIRE just like the rest, and -- particularly given the spooked look in his eyes after his chat with 'Bama -- will dutifully take his place, perhaps with a few Trump-like accents thrown in to keep up the theatrics of it all, and perform his ROLE.

Also: I'd venture a guess and say that wire-hangers won't need to be deployed anytime soon, nor marriage licenses rescinded, despite the proclaimed horrors of such scenarios transpiring under the Trump brand.

We'll find out soon enough, won't we?

Trump did look spooked, way out of his element. A "holy crap, this is actually real now?" moment

Even some of the people championing Trump as the anti neocon anti globalist outsider are worried hes going to have his cabinet filled with neocons. Which is exactly what will happen.

The elite will most likely hand deliver an ugly event, most likely a massive terror event or series of events to steer him toward what they want. 9/11 on steroids. Probably race riots ala LA 92 or Watts for the cherry on the top. We see what happens to Presidents and President locks when they even get a little hair out of line. The "Soros mind controlled a leftist assassin" would be the headline news on InfoBreitTrump TV

[8bitagent]

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Interesting comments on youtube Re: the above clip; a few examples:

Liam Redmond1 day ago
Bill Burr's right about Hillary Clinton and the Bilderberg meetings though

Liam Redmond1 hour ago
+roxoto Thats right. Either that or they've got an unhealthy fixation with actual pizza.

soberpunk1 day ago
You do know he was poking fun at the idea, right?

Liam Redmond1 day ago
+soberpunk He's not actually. He just has to make it seem kinda humorous because its such a foreign concept to so many people. He mentioned it the last time he was on as well. He brought it up himself out of nowhere for God's sake. If he was poking fun at it it would've had some kinda context within the rest of the conversation. You're reacting like the rest of the people in the audience btw. They're all going "You can't be serious" too. Listen to Burr's podcasts he goes on about this stuff all the time and he's not just poking fun at the idea.

soberpunk1 day ago
+Liam Redmond Look up the definition of Satire.

Liam Redmond22 hours ago (edited)
+soberpunk I get what satire is. For Burr to be satirical about this the idea would have had to have proper context within the conversation beforehand but the Bilderberg thing was mentioned completely out of left-field. It wasn't relying on a familiar premise to people. The definition of satire includes the words "in the context of", but there was no particular context for what Burr was bringing up. If they had been talking about conspiracy theories or something and then Burr brought up about the Bilderberg meetings and Hillary Clinton in a not so serious way then it would possibly be satire. However in this case he mentioned Bilderberg and the idea was so completely foreign to people that it came across as awkwardly comedic and he had to rely on making it seem like a semi traditional joke.

ibladesi17 hours ago (edited)
Yeah it was kind of disturbing how Conan tried to shut that down... but Bill Burr knocked it out of the park either way. Worst part was when I remembered how they were announcing Patrice O'Neal benefit tickets/dates then and there. Sort of good thing Conan screwed up the website.. I got my tix - panic buy style (now how to get to NY and scheduling). Patrice is the best best best. I'd give an eye to benefit his fam. .. Oh.. and http://billburr.com/podcast/ for him talking about the weirdness of doing this show.

Anthony James1 day ago
"...they dress up like Yaks and have those Eyes Wide Shut parties." XD LMFAO im crying

Now that Patton Oswalt and Louis CK I feel have begun to lose relevance and bite(cant say I love "Edgy" comedians who begged their audiences to vote for Hillary)
I think I found my new fave comedian. Thanks for posting that. Loved the Bohemian Grove joke.

It is funny to think...as others have mentioned, this was the moment Trump became president. People always say Trump is a loser. He never actually loses.
His loss of a billion dollars in the 90s, his bankrupsies, "losing wives", losing his NFL bid. Its never truly losses.
- He's never going to run.... - Ok well he wont win a single state - Ok well he wont win the GOP Nomination - Ok well god dammit, he sure as shit wont win the Presidency right?

Trump so far, keeps proving the pundits wrong. All because of this dinner roast moment of "We'll see Barry, we'll see"

[mentalgongfu2]

Bill Burr talks about Bilderberg quite a bit (say that 3 times fast). Listen to his podcast, or old episodes of Opie and Anthony. He and the late Patrice O Neal were the "conspiracy guys" of the show. Don't look to him for expert analysis; he'll be the first to admit he doesn't read at all and just hears shit and thinks about it. But the mere fact he acknowledges the existence of Bilderberg and draws the conclusion that all these powerful people aren't just meeting to play Canasta makes him a bit of an outlier from the mainstream, I suppose.

Really, that's what is so fucking ridiculous - acknowledging admitted/proven facts and drawing obvious conclusions makes one a "conspriacy theorist...." Saying "Bilderberg" is akin to saying "Illuminati" to these small-minded observers that make up the American public. (A lot of work has gone into creating this false equivalency, I'm sure). And I'm not necessarily saying the Illuminati doesn't exist, but we KNOW the Bilderberg Group exists, and they sure aren't playing card games.
To paraphrase Vonnegut, who probably lifted it from a real life GE researcher, why should they play made-up games when there are so many real ones going on?

[82_28]

Well, first and foremost his "properties" are going to have to be protected along with all their "inhabitants". There is nothing you can do about that. 24/7 Secret Service patrols at all fucking times. And no matter what. I am trying to semi-sorta figure out the angle on that, but no way any of his branded properties survive in the state they are. Perhaps he turns into a new brand?

If you think about it. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, means he is attempting to actually brand this country with his ego. And he is doing so. There will be push back but like I said in the first fucking "TRUMP is seriously dangerous" thread. I said, this guy ain't going away. And yes indeed. I seriously do not like to be right about anything. But I was unfortunately right about this.

And then you got Pence. That helps, right?

We are so seriously fucked.

I will say watch Colbert's bit last night where he became very serious about this shit and went on for about 20 minutes. Nobody laughed in the audience. Everyone was palpably scared and not in a humorous mood.

I never call for violence of any sort but something is going to fucking happen and either "way" it will not be good. We are dealing with fucking racism here that simply will not go away by wishing it away, nor fighting it, it won't. Like cockroaches it does not go away. I sorta thought shit was "better" than this. Whatever. Here we are.

[mentalgongfu2]

Also, with all the Trump fellatio and aggression toward "snowflake" protesters I'm seeing on the alt-right sites I check, I dearly hope they are solemnly dissappointed if and when Trump proves himself to be just another tool and alienates them all when he has to make practical decisions. They were prepared to be bad losers, so now they're gonna be bad winners instead, can't even stop pitying themselves in victory. A week ago they were promising armed rebellion when Clinton would inevitably steal the presidency, and now they advocate attacks on Trump protesters and call them whiny babies. Pot, meet kettle. The hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife and eat for days on the spoils.

Even without taking pleasure in that well-deserved come-uppance of Trumpeteers, I think the best we can hope for is that Trump really is a lying sack of dung (masterful though he may be at selling manure) with a giant ego such that he will both forgo his election promises and fight with Republican leadership enough to create some legislative gridlock. I am truly frightened by what a Republican agenda can accomplish with both houses and the executive if Trump manages to cooperate with the ideologues. I'm optimistic it won't happen.

[seemslikeadream]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1SaD-gSZO4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsi-qvFE4M

[PufPuf93]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1SaD-gSZO4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hsi-qvFE4M

Michael Moore is prescient in how he nailed the POTUS election.

An anger management tool.

Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio - where the election was lost.

I enjoy and have respect for Samantha Bee as well.