FourthBase » Mon Nov 14, 2016 11:29 am wrote:Yo, guruilla, almost everything you write here is, I think, spot-on. Except the opening stuff about good guys, public reaction, and timing.
I don't think it's time to crack open any champagne bottles or shout about any revolution just yet, FB. What good guys are we talking about here?
I wish I could be more in agreement because the stuff you uncovered here had a big impact for me and inspired, or at least coincided with, a deeper level of engagement in getting to the bottom of this foul pizza box of a society. But at what point does awareness of a hidden and deeply appalling aspect of social reality lead to action, or to activism? I'd say not before our understanding is complete, and we appear to me to be decades, if not centuries, away from that moment, collectively speaking: i.e., for any sort of "cavalry" of good guys to emerge with any sort of social impact that doesn't just shakes things up on the surface and make it easier for the bad guys to secure a new underground layer.
Guess who knew about all this shit long before 4chan/Reddit did? Trump. The FBI. The NYPD. Wikileaks. The tinfoil evangelical right. It ain't gonna be decades or centuries. We are at the very end of waiting decades and centuries. It's going to be months, weeks, days. There is circumstantial evidence enough, just the stuff on Reddit briefers alone, to indict. The harder proof will be discovered later, and enough may already be in the hands of non-corrupted authorities to cinch a conviction for some. What is happening now is that the publicly viewable circumstantial evidence is still being crowdsourced and has much more room to metastatically grow into proof of its own. At the same time, the core of -- forgive me -- redpilled Americans is growing and growing, so that when it does tip, when it is time to break the bad news officially, enough Americans will have already become aware and ready to see consequences. The problem is, it's not just the would-be Hillary Clinton administration. It's also, probably, the Obama administration. Which, technically, has control of the military and other world-ending technologies. Shit could get very freaky, very apocalyptic in the non-just-uncovering sense, and Too Real in a sudden. Unless the "good guys" have them not just in Check but Checkmate, total checkmate. And I believe that to be the case. Otherwise, I would already be dead, lol.
So who are the good guys. I'm one. You can be the good guys, too. I implore you to be, because what the world is going to need is a tinfoil left that insists on everyone remembering that it ain't just this or that coven of pseudo-leftwingers being ultimately evil, there is also this or that coven of pseudo-rightwingers. You guys need to be coming at this same issue from the other side, flanking the evil with reminders and new crowdsourced research about Franklin, Finders, Churches, Presidio, etc. Instead, at the moment, we are figuring it all out here still. That's okay. But pretty soon you are going to have to tell the people here trying to discredit or divert you all away from thinking about Pizzagate to fuck off. Degenerate art? Yep! Sorry, satanic babyeating childraping cannibal cults are not the kind of thing I would rush to defend from any neo-Nazis who want to hunt down and exterminate such ghouls. At that point, we are in Watch on the Rhine territory, the fucking Kratman book. But this is another reason for everyone good in here to get their asses in gear and join the Pizzagate sleuthing without fear. Because we are going to need good, woke tinfoilers from the left to keep the campaign for justice against the ghouls free from racism, sexism, homophobia, antisemitism, etc. To keep the Nazis down and out. I would say that is my biggest fear right now. I have no fear that the ghouls won't be caught, all of them who are alive will be caught. I have little fear that the ghouls will crash the world first before they lose everything, creating a nightmarish literal dog eat dog world that is just perfect for their sick desires. I have quite a bit of fear that it'll just be the right wing doing the cleaning up, that it will be falsely framed as nothing but a left/right dichotomy, and that the Nazis will take power eventually. So, everyone who is not a total dupe or a ghoul, please,
get in here, and help.
The thing with white hat good guys vs. black hat bad guys (as I tried to suggest with the taboo stuff) is that they prop each other up just as much as democrat & republican do. Simply put, once he’s killed off the bad guy, every good guy
becomes the bad guy. It’s just the way of the id and the superego.
Trump is a great illustration, and in your hopeful prospectus, Trump IS the good guy we’ve been hoping for. Some people in my Faceborg feed even believe he is going to rout out all the pedophiles! Well maybe he will rout some of them out, but if so, it will only be to install his own. It’s all just warring mobster factions. Trump is the reactionary id that emerged as a reaction against the Clintons and the Obama neoliberal superego clique. Now that he’s overcome those guys, he can climb up his tower and don his crown and he becomes the superego. He’s Kek: the frog prince.
It works in reverse too, the prince shows he’s really a frog underneath the moment he has enough power to start abusing it. The superego is just a cover for the drives of the id, a way for the id to get what it wants: the power and the glory.
I’m not arguing against doing anything, however. If this sort of stuff shows up in our own lives, then we can confront it and expose it and bring about some change there; but what counts above all, IMO, is seeing, confronting, exposing our own programs of power-abuse. Eradicating the villain out there isn’t ever going to achieve that. It can even have the opposite effect: it’s called self-righteousness. Every black hat believes he’s a white hat. He
knows it: because he’s using all his power and force (his rage) to eradicate a greater evil.
I know psychology doesn't interest most people at RI, though, so another way of looking at it is to factor in the vast historical backstory to the current abuses coming to light. It’s not this or that bunch of people. It goes back to ancient Greece and ancient Egypt and beyond. Degenerate art, IMO, isn’t so much a case of art that’s degenerated, but how degeneracy has always used art as both a cover and a delivery device; how culture itself is toxic because of those early programs of abuse that began millennia ago, pre-historically even.
It does seem as though we are reaching some sort of critical mass in terms of these cultural abuse programs coming to light; but a) outrage, indignation, fury, aren’t going to be enough to eradicate the behaviors, only some of the people doing them (and then only the ones who are insufficiently hooked into the higher power to avoid the “purge”); and b) it’s not just a question of the people who are actively committing the crimes, it’s the thousands upon thousands of enablers who really don’t care (though they say they do, and even believe it) and who far outnumber those of us who do care. The ones who “will fight to the death to protect the matrix”–those guys.
And then there’s the victims; even assuming we could identify and route out every perpetrator down to the last mom, pop, aunt, and brother (which probably wouldn’t leave many people left), what about the victims? How are we going to ensure their healing so they won’t pass on the abuse?
This is beyond massive. It’s so vast that being able to see it as it is and not go insane is itself a heroic feat and, in my opinion, the only thing that really can or needs to happen: see the world as it is.
I've heard a Native American belief that it will take seven generations of complete, one hundred percent abuse-free child-raising. Does anyone see that happening in the next two hundred years? I don’t. What I see is a kind of massive changing of the guard, combined with a coming out of the closet for the satan-elite. Whether it’s either/or or both/and, is really hard to predict. People are being acclimatized, that’s clear to me, and outrage isn’t going to shake them out of that numbed out indifference because it’s not a rational or conscious thing. When people are exposed to too much truth, too fast, they shut down.
At the same time, the core of -- forgive me -- redpilled Americans is growing and growing, so that when it does tip, when it is time to break the bad news officially, enough Americans will have already become aware and ready to see consequences
No offense, but red-pilled Americans sounds like an oxymoron to me. Red-blooded and wrathful, maybe, but that’s not the same thing at all.
It’s really essential not to underestimate how endemic the problem of child sexual abuse is. It’s NOT just some satanic elite. They may take it to extremes and they may have created a whole hidden (though not really) culture to push the themes and memes that incept such behaviors in new generations of kids across the whole class spectrum. But ordinary, everyday sexual interference with children is literally everywhere. In my view, we have no real inkling of how prevalent it is because it’s literally unthinkable.
It is a lot easier to fool people than show them how they have been fooled.
