What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:54 am

slomo » 19 Nov 2016 14:50 wrote:I want to add one more bit of Pizzagate data. It's small, but it was enough of a contextual datum to push me onto one side of the debate. (While I have thought from the start that the whole thing was super creepy, I've still wondered whether we had enough of a view of the overall context to really evaluate the seemingly damning evidence that may, in the final analysis, have been cherry picked either to discredit the Podestas or else as a wild collective paranoid flight of fancy.) The artist who painted the murals at Comet has other work that can easily be googled. All of it is seemingly of an occult nature, depicting obvious scenes of sex and potentially sex magic. To me, these images seem similar in spirit to many of the images on AC's Thoth Tarot deck. Photos of the artist himself show eyes that (to me) demonstrate an occult practice (compare, e.g. with photos of Helena Blavatsky). My feelings/intuitions aside, the murals at Comet are part of a body of work whose themes should really not overlap with a venue that is serious about being "family friendly". Too many of the artists associated with Comet have obvious occult themes in their work. This to me suggests that the jokes made on Instagram represent more than just bad taste. The context renders them something else.



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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby guruilla » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:26 am

Of all of this data, the police sketches supposedly linking the Podestas to McCann is the weakest and I think the most likely thing to be unadulterated well-poisoning. Why would two of the most powerful players in Washington who (if they belong to high-power pedophile-rings) have unlimited access to children do their own kidnapping? It makes no sense at all.

slomo wrote:I want to add one more bit of Pizzagate data. It's small, but it was enough of a contextual datum to push me onto one side of the debate. (While I have thought from the start that the whole thing was super creepy, I've still wondered whether we had enough of a view of the overall context to really evaluate the seemingly damning evidence that may, in the final analysis, have been cherry picked either to discredit the Podestas or else as a wild collective paranoid flight of fancy.) The artist who painted the murals at Comet has other work that can easily be googled. All of it is seemingly of an occult nature, depicting obvious scenes of sex and potentially sex magic. To me, these images seem similar in spirit to many of the images on AC's Thoth Tarot deck. Photos of the artist himself show eyes that (to me) demonstrate an occult practice (compare, e.g. with photos of Helena Blavatsky). My feelings/intuitions aside, the murals at Comet are part of a body of work whose themes should really not overlap with a venue that is serious about being "family friendly". Too many of the artists associated with Comet have obvious occult themes in their work. This to me suggests that the jokes made on Instagram represent more than just bad taste. The context renders them something else.

Yep. To re-post my comments to you from our discussion elsewhere (& in the hope of nullifying Joe H's shamelessly reactionary attempt at baiting; god save us from the hipster-guardians of "free expression" who see a witch hunt in every attempt to place things in deeper context):

The only context that I can see some might argue was exculpating would be the culture at large in which Comet Pizza is embedded, which might insist this is all just dark humor plus coincidence plus projection. But what’s missed here (& what I talk about in this week’s podcast with an RI-er) is that it’s the culture that’s under examination here, not just individuals. In fact I am not so interested in naming the guilty players as identifying this “exculpating context” that gives rise to the atrocities (IMO).
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When people talk about all of this being “just” people making really sick jokes or “entitled assholes with a warped and dark sense of humor,” or even people carried away by negative fantasies which they are projecting onto inconclusive tidbits of gossip, or whatever, the thing that’s never, ever, addressed is how people got that way in the first place: where the dark fantasies are coming from. What I’m saying is that even to imagine that these sorts of things are occurring is, in & of itself, a symptom of severe psychological damage or in-toxication, and so ought to be seen as inferring some original cause in that person’s childhood that itself probably relates to sexual abuse.

It could be that, since children are so much more vulnerable & sensitive to interference (that they experience it at such a vastly deeper level of intensity), that relatively minor forms of abuse generate profound dissociative nightmare experiences internally, even if, looked at from the outside from an adult perspective, aren’t “so bad” (compared to SRA scenarios, I mean). BUT, and here’s one more thing, if these children grow up to be adults and never address, integrate or heal those traumatic & deranging experiences, they might well end up acting them out on other children, not as they actually happened, but congruent with their own subjective, nightmarish experience of what happened, complete with demons, gargoyles, tunnels, dungeons, and all the rest.

Now that I write this down for the first time, this may be something like an explanation for how these horrendous practices became part of human culture to begin with: the translation of subjective, affective trauma undergone by children into adult re-enactments that literalize the forms of abuse and render them as a true adult horror show. I think Lloyd de Mause touches on this with his essay about memories of the placenta being projected out by Jew-fearing Nazis in terror of a devouring sea beast…. http://primal-page.com/ldfetal1.htm
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:56 am

slomo » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:50 pm wrote:The artist who painted the murals at Comet has other work that can easily be googled. All of it is seemingly of an occult nature, depicting obvious scenes of sex and potentially sex magic. To me, these images seem similar in spirit to many of the images on AC's Thoth Tarot deck. Photos of the artist himself show eyes that (to me) demonstrate an occult practice (compare, e.g. with photos of Helena Blavatsky). My feelings/intuitions aside, the murals at Comet are part of a body of work whose themes should really not overlap with a venue that is serious about being "family friendly". Too many of the artists associated with Comet have obvious occult themes in their work. This to me suggests that the jokes made on Instagram represent more than just bad taste. The context renders them something else.


Question, who is the artist who painted the murals & do you have any direct links to pictures of them/him? It's late and my google-fu is running low.
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Postby Freitag » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:42 am

guruilla » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:26 pm wrote:Of all of this data, the police sketches supposedly linking the Podestas to McCann is the weakest and I think the most likely thing to be unadulterated well-poisoning. Why would two of the most powerful players in Washington who (if they belong to high-power pedophile-rings) have unlimited access to children do their own kidnapping? It makes no sense at all.


I agree it makes no sense, but such an uncanny resemblance is pretty hard to ignore.
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Postby SonicG » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:32 am

Podestas and McCann? Because...the thrill of the hunt?



Thank yodhehvavheh that there are trigger warnings on this thread because that trailer is triggering all kinds of shit...

Sorry to derail and make light of this...trust me, it tears me up on all sides...I really don't know what else to do except crack-wise and hope it is all a bad bad dream...
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Postby tapitsbo » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:32 am

It makes tons of sense to me if it was an exercise in pushing limits right out in the open, as many of these people's activities appear to be

(also the sketch could have been setting them up guilty or not... many possibilities)
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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby guruilla » Sat Nov 19, 2016 1:45 pm

tapitsbo » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:32 am wrote:It makes tons of sense to me if it was an exercise in pushing limits right out in the open, as many of these people's activities appear to be

(also the sketch could have been setting them up guilty or not... many possibilities)

There's a strategic reason for that (pushing limits in the open), a la Savile, which has to do with gaining people's semi-conscious consent. I don't see how that applies here, which sounds more like a pair of sergeants doing a foot solider's work. Or two Mafia dons deciding they felt like having a holiday lark and playing bagmen.
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Postby divideandconquer » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:12 pm

Perhaps it's both: "thrill of the hunt" and the thrill of "pushing limits in the open" Having said that, I think it's more likely "unadulterated well-poisoning" but who knows with these sick fucks...

What about the suspicious death of Monica Peterson a few days ago? She was investigating the Clinton Foundation for human trafficking in Haiti.

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Postby Jerky » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:32 am

If you seriously think this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oicUO0sz08c

...is "not for the weak of heart", or that it serves as a smoking gun for anything other than the increasingly desperate state of America's collective mental health (and not in the way that you think), then I don't know what to tell you.

(and then I read the rest of what you wrote, about the summer court and the illuminati and demons and faeries, and I thought to myself... wtf am I doing with my life?!)

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MayDay » 18 Nov 2016 15:35 wrote:I gave you a smoking gun in the Apes video. The Neutered Noel. It's not for the weak of heart. Images of kids dressed up in pizza suits interspersed with images of torture and sexual violence.

This is bigger than mankind. Spiritual forces are indeed active behind the scenes. They aren't even necessarily demonic, at least not in my understanding of what demonic is. They are of the earth. Old, wild, utterly non-human. They show up in mythology as faeries and other entities. One of the courts, what would be referred to as summer court in human mythology, is behind what many refer to as the illuminati, or the western cabal. They want to enslave humanity, and it wouldn't be the first time they've done so. They revel in every excess, lust, greed, envy, pleasure, pain, it's all taken to extremes. They play with us through the humans they control. Their ultimate goal is to break down the barriers between our field of perception and their realm.

There are all sorts of faeries/ spirits/ entities coexisting with us. The vast majority of them mean us no harm. This isn't about God and the Devil, although they do use 'satanic' imagery when it suits their purposes, such as causing vast swaths of the populace to dismiss the very notion that something is amiss. The right wing christians attempting to expose this don't realize the damage they are doing by injecting their belief system into the dialogue. All that will do is turn reasonable, intelligent, non-religious people off to further inquiry.
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Postby Jerky » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:43 am

Wow. Looks like the nuts are choking on smoking guns these days.

Hey! Smoked nuts! Yummy!

Anyhoo, along comes the dreaded Snopes to deflate the balloon being bandied about by the lip-smacking ghouls of the alt.right and alt.reality milieus.

http://www.snopes.com/monica-petersen-killed/

Note I didn't say it was "popped", because Snopes is being cautiously conservative by saying it's only "unproven" that Peterson was killed by the Clintons' unstoppable army of blood-thirsty killing machines.

Those kooky Clintons... they're so busy killing their enemies, it's a wonder they ever find the time to kidnap, rape, kill, cook and then eat all those children! Let alone all those ceremonies with Epstein and Abramovic! What a hectic sked!

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divideandconquer » 20 Nov 2016 02:12 wrote:Perhaps it's both: "thrill of the hunt" and the thrill of "pushing limits in the open" Having said that, I think it's more likely "unadulterated well-poisoning" but who knows with these sick fucks...

What about the suspicious death of Monica Peterson a few days ago? She was investigating the Clinton Foundation for human trafficking in Haiti.

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Re: What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

Postby Nordic » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:48 am

"Besta" pizza.

Besta means "beast" in Portuguese.
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Postby Nordic » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:51 am

What an ODD synchronicity.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2620104

De Blasio reads book to kids that mirrors fund-raising probe

When you make something secret, you make it special.

That was the bizarre lesson Mayor de Blasio — whose questionable fund-raising tactics are at the center of an ongoing criminal probe — delivered Saturday to a group of children at a Queens library.

Hizzoner read from the illustrated children’s book “Secret Pizza Party” at the Woodside branch of the Queens Library alongside library boss Dennis Walcott and City Councilman Jimmy Van Bramer.


“The book was neither fun nor cute,” mom Jen Bee wrote on Amazon. “Yeah, that’s not what I want to teach my child. It sounds like something a pedophile would say to their victim.”
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Postby Nordic » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:54 am

Saw this in a comment somewhere:

"James Alefantis is a corruption of J’aime L’enfants (I love children in French)"
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Postby Nordic » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:58 am

The police drawings that so resemble the Podesta bros in the Madeleine McCann case were suppressed for five years:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... years.html
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Postby Jerky » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:29 am

http://nerdist.com/adam-savage-helped-p ... -prop-was/

You should be very proud of yourselves.

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