Trumpublicons: Foreign Influence/Grifting in '16 US Election

[seemslikeadream]

oh look what the pizza man has brought to the table

do appreciate the bumps ..thanks!

get use to it the hearings are not far off

and I am not going anywhere

you can be as mean as you what to me...go ahead ...don't bother me at all

[seemslikeadream]

FBI covered up Russian influence on Trump's election win, Harry Reid claims
The senator called for James Comey to resign for withholding information revealed in CIA report that Russian operatives gave hacked emails to WikiLeaks
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Outgoing Senate minority leader Harry Reid called for James Comey’s resignation and compared him to FBI founder J Edgar Hoover. Photograph: Michael Reynolds/EPA
David Smith
Saturday 10 December 2016 13.34 EST First published on Saturday 10 December 2016 12.39 EST

The FBI covered up information about Russia seeking to tip the 2016 presidential election in Donald Trump’s favour, a senior Democrat claimed on Saturday, after reports emerged about spy agencies’ investigations into hacks of US political parties.


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Harry Reid, outgoing Senate minority leader, compared FBI director James Comey to the agency’s notorious founder, J Edgar Hoover, and called for his resignation.

A secret CIA analysis found that people with connections to the Russian government provided emails, hacked from the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s campaign, to the whistleblower website WikiLeaks in the final months of the election, according to a Washington Post report published late Friday.

“The FBI had this material for a long time but Comey, who is of course a Republican, refused to divulge specific information about Russia and the presidental election,” Reid told MSNBC on Saturday. Comey testified to Congress in July that he was no longer a registered Republican, though he belonged to the party most of his life.

“Everyone should know WikiLeaks was involved from the very beginning,” Reid continued. “They leaked the information as if it was run by one of the great political operatives in America when in fact it was run by the political operatives in Russia.

“Russia has a pretty good way of cheating. Look at what they did with athletes,” he added, alluding to the long-running doping scandal of Russian Olympic athletes.

Pressed on whether he believed Comey had information on Russia’s influence and sat on it, Reid replied: “That’s right, that is true.”

“I am so disappointed in Comey. He has let the country down for partisan purposes and that’s why I call him the new J Edgar Hoover, because I believe that,” Reid added, calling for the director’s resignation.

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“I think he should be investigated by the Senate. He should be investigated by other agencies of the government including the security agencies because if ever there was a matter of security it’s this … I don’t think any of us understood how partisan Comey was.”

Comey had previously angered Democrats when, 10 days before election day, he sent a letter to Capitol Hill leaders indicating the FBI had located additional emails potentially related to its investigation of Clinton’s private email server. Two days before the election, he sent another letter saying the review was complete and that he stood by the bureau’s original conclusion finding no criminal wrongdoing.

A month before the election, the US government formally accused Russia of a campaign of cyber-attacks against Democratic party organisations, with an intention to interfere in the US election. Intelligence officials did not specify that a Trump victory was the ultimate goal at the time. On Friday, Barack Obama ordered a review of evidence that Russia had interfered in the election.

Gene Sperling, a former national economic adviser to Obama and former president Bill Clinton, tweeted: “So at end of close election, FBI deeply hurt HRC [Clinton] based on no evidence, while CIA sat on clear evidence of Putin interference for Trump.”

On Saturday Adam Schiff, the ranking member of the House committee on intelligence, said in a statement that though he could not “comment on or confirm any intelligence briefings … one would also have to be wilfully blind not to see that these Russian actions were uniformly damaging to Secretary Clinton and helpful to Donald Trump.”

He added: “I do not believe this was coincidental or unintended.”

Trump himself curtly dismissed the reports of the CIA findings. “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction,” his transition team said in a statement. “The election ended a long time ago in one of the biggest electoral college victories in history. It’s now time to move on and ‘Make America Great Again’.”

The comment earned widespread derision. David Axelrod, a former top adviser to Obama, tweeted that Trump’s “blithe dismissal only deepens concern”, and John Dean, the former White House counsel under former president Richard Nixon, described the response as “remarkably inadequate”. Dean called for the intelligence report on Russia’s role to be made available to the 538 members of the electoral college before 19 December, when they formally vote to elect the next president.

Senior Democrats demanded a congressional investigation next year. “Reports of the CIA’s conclusion that Russia actively sought to help elect Donald Trump are simultaneously stunning and not surprising, given Russia’s disdain for democracy and admiration for autocracy,” said Chuck Schumer, Reid’s successor as Senate minority leader.

“The silence from WikiLeaks and others since election day has been deafening. That any country could be meddling in our elections should shake both political parties to their core.”

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Schumer threw down a gauntlet to Republicans to back the investigation. “It’s imperative that our intelligence community turns over any relevant information so that Congress can conduct a full investigation.”

The call poses a dilemma for Republicans who have increasingly rallied around Trump and do not want to be seen undermining his legitimacy. Trump has repeatedly praised Russian president Vladimir Putin and rejected the intelligence community’s findings. In a recent interview with Time magazine, he said: “I don’t believe they interfered. It could be Russia. And it could be China. And it could be some guy in his home in New Jersey.”

In its report on the CIA conclusions, the Post quoted an unnamed senior US official who had been briefed on the intelligence agency findings. “It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favour one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” the official said. “That’s the consensus view.”

CIA agents told senators it was “quite clear” that putting Trump in the White House was Russia’s goal, according to officials who spoke to the Post.

Meanwhile, a New York Times report suggested that the Republican National Committee was also hacked. “We now have high confidence that they hacked the DNC and the RNC, and conspicuously released no documents” from the RNC, the Times quoted one senior administration official as saying.

A senior administration official told Reuters: “That was a major clue to their intent. If all they wanted to do was discredit our political system, why publicise the failings of just one party, especially when you have a target like Trump?”

The Kremlin has denied accusations of interference in the US election. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has denied links with Russia’s government.

At the White House on Friday, deputy press secretary Eric Schultz said Obama had called for the cyber-attacks review, for release before inauguration day on 20 January, to ensure “the integrity of our elections”.

“We are going to make public as much as we can,” Schultz said. “This is a major priority for the president.”

Michael McFaul, former US ambassador to Russia, said that during the election, Republicans had wanted to “avoid the subject altogether and the Obama administration did not want to appear to be influencing the election”.

“Now that the election is over, we need a serious , independent, bipartisan investigation to know the facts.”

Bruce Riedel, a 30-year veteran of the CIA, now director of the Brookings Intelligence Project, called the situation “unprecedented”.

“A foreign adversary has been caught trying to influence an American election. The intelligence community must have certainty that the evidence is concrete to support the conclusion. But revealing the evidence may not be in the national interest and undermine future capabilities to monitor Russia’s next attack on the nation.”
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[MacCruiskeen]

From a Guardian screed by Jonathan fucking Freedland posted here with approval by seemslikeadream (as just one small turd in an ongoing torrent of raw sewage):

Bruce Riedel, a 30-year veteran of the CIA, now director of the Brookings Intelligence Project, called the situation “unprecedented”.

“A foreign adversary has been caught trying to influence an American election. The intelligence community must have certainty that the evidence is concrete to support the conclusion. But revealing the evidence may not be in the national interest and undermine future capabilities to monitor Russia’s next attack on the nation.”
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Chuck Schumer Calls For Investigation Into Russian Interference In The Election
“That any country could be meddling in our elections should shake both political parties to their core.”
12/10/2016 11:16 am ET | Updated 43 minutes ago

Sam Levine
Associate Politics Editor, The Huffington Post

WASHINGTON ― Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) has demanded a congressional investigation into Russia’s involvement in the 2016 presidential election.

The incoming Senate minority leader believes it’s necessary after The Washington Post reported on Friday that the CIA had concluded that the country had worked to help Donald Trump win the presidency.

In a secret assessment, the CIA reportedly concluded that Russia wasn’t only working to undermine confidence in the election, but working to help Trump.

“Reports of the CIA’s conclusion that Russia actively sought to help elect Donald Trump are simultaneously stunning and not surprising, given Russia’s disdain for democracy and admiration for autocracy. The silence from Wikileaks and others since election day has been deafening. That any country could be meddling in our elections should shake both political parties to their core,” Schumer said in a statement. “Senate Democrats will join with our Republican colleagues next year to demand a congressional investigation and hearings to get to the bottom of this. It’s imperative that our intelligence community turns over any relevant information so that Congress can conduct a full investigation.”

Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), the incoming No. 3 Democrat in the Senate, also called for an investigation on Saturday.
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[MacCruiskeen]

but you do love Socha Faal ...right?

No. You dreamt it. Seems like an American dream, and you would have to be asleep to believe it.

[slomo]

SLAD: what is your opinion on Wikileaks release of the Podesta emails? Not your interpretation of any individual email, but the veracity of the dump itself. The real thing? Or forgeries (of Russian origin or otherwise)?

[seemslikeadream]

oh it's real

[seemslikeadream]

but you do love Socha Faal ...right?

No. You dreamt it. Seems like an American dream, and you would have to be asleep to believe it.

I took out the snark as you were posting ...a second too late I see

but keep up the insults ...you are so very good at it and they are very entertaining maybe even bring back your pal and do another pile on

you can even continue to yell at me...


why not

[brekin]

All of this may point to a big Establishment Intelligence War being played out between the FBI & CIA.

[seemslikeadream]

yea I think so but I am not supposed to be posting/copypasting about it for some strange reason

I do hear that pizza is much more entertaining and mac seems to be digging it, at least he doesn't complain about it


I know he loves me and just can't quit me....

[MacCruiskeen]

SLAD, for page after page after page after page you post torrents of copied-and-pasted entirely-unsubstantiated warmongering crap from the likes of Corn and Freedland and HuffPo and WaPo and the WSJ and the Daily Beast and "Bruce Riedel, a 30-year veteran of the CIA, now director of the Brookings Intelligence Project"; you pepper it all with cretinous LOLs and ROTFL-smileys; and finally you accuse me of loving Socha (sic) Faal...

... and then when I react to all that with the merest trace of irritation you whinge about being insulted?

Answer: Yes. You do.

I hate to break this to you, SLAD, but you are not in fact The Queen. It`s just a dream.


Not Her Majesty, just dreaming.

[seemslikeadream]

see you can't quit me

merest trace of irritation

[DrEvil]

What bullshit. What has happened to RI?

Listen, I admire and respect Putin more than anyone in the US government right now.

Except maybe for Tulsi Gabbard.

Seriously, you guys are "this close" to posting photos of monster trucks covered in American flags and memes like "kick their ass, take their gas".

I've got some WMD's in Iraq I'd like to sell you. I take PayPal.

Obama is a piece of shit, Trump is a piece of shit, Clinton is a piece of shit and Putin is a piece of shit.

Putin isn't standing up to the US out of any kind of moral conviction, he's doing it because he wants Russia to become a superpower on par with the US, preferably trashing the US in the process.
He has just as much imperial ambition as your average neocon, he just hasn't had the opportunity or resources to do anything about it until now.

A fragmented west mired in internal bickering and a weakened NATO (disclaimer: I fucking hate what NATO has become too) is just what he wants. It will allow him more room to maneuver and play empire.
He's just as much a fascist fuck as the rest of them, and thinking that Russia doesn't meddle in other countries affairs just as much as the US is just naive. Putin was a KGB foreign intelligence officer of the Soviet Union for 16 years - a trained liar and manipulator. He is not a good guy.

Tl;dr: America bad != Russia good.

[seemslikeadream]

go eat some pizza mac you seem a little hungry for something and there's 69 pages to eat your way through
why does my 6 pages upset you so much ...maybe I just post to irritate you...ever think about that?

Russian cyberspies likely behind DNC breach move on to German election
Fancy Bear has been allegedly targeting political parties in the country using spear-phishing attacks
By Michael Kan | Follow
U.S. Correspondent, IDG News Service | Dec 8, 2016 9:18 PM PT

Germany is worried about cyberattacks meant to influence the upcoming election.

A group of suspected Russian cyberspies blamed for interfering in the U.S. election is also attempting to influence the upcoming vote in Germany, according to the country's domestic intelligence agency.

The Russian hacking group known as Fancy Bear or APT 28 has been targeting political parties in the country, Germany's Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV) intelligence agency said in a statement Thursday posted online by Politico.

The hacking activities have led to a surge in spear-phishing email attacks directed at German politicians, the agency said.

Fancy Bear is one of the elite Russian hacking teams that allegedly hacked the Democratic National Committee and stole sensitive files that were later leaked online, according to U.S. security firms.

To steal passwords, Fancy Bear has been known to send fake emails, pretending to be from Google, that ask the recipients to type in their login information. Earlier this year, the hacking group directed this kind of attack against aides working for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, according to Dell SecureWorks.

Later, during the presidential race, leaked emails from Hillary Clinton aide John Podesta and former Secretary of State Colin Powell were published online through WikiLeaks and a hacktivist site called DCLeaks – potentially influencing voter opinions about the presidential candidates.

In Germany, Fancy Bear has been attempting to promote propaganda and disinformation under the guise of hacktivism, according to the country's BfV intelligence agency. The objective is to destabilize the government and help support extremist groups, it added.

"We are increasingly finding aggressive cyberspying," Hans-Georg Maassen, head of the BfV intelligence agency, said in a statement. He warned that the attacks will attempt to discredit German politicians by spreading the misinformation over social media.

In October, U.S. intelligence agencies also blamed Russia for sponsoring hacks meant to tamper with the U.S. election. However, the Russian government has denied any involvement.

Despite the denial, Russia will continue to sponsor these kinds of election-influencing hacks in Europe, said Dmitri Alperovitch, CTO at security firm Crowdstrike. The goal has been to prevent tighter integration among countries belonging to the European Union, he said.

"The blueprint Russia has been using for these hacks has been quite successful to further their objectives," he said.
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[slomo]

oh it's real

Well, then: many of those emails are quite damaging to Clinton. Not the pizza emails, but ones that speak to actual abhorrent views held in private, and collusion of the worst kind. I was actually kind of shocked when I viewed the worst ones assembled in one place. Keep in mind that I voted for Clinton, and yet now I am of the opinion that her administration would have been an abomination, although nominally better for certain interests that are labeled "progressive". Trump is also an abomination, but at least we know what we're getting with him.