What's Happening? It? (TRIGGERS UPON TRIGGERS)

[guruilla]

Not sure if this is anything, I wound up here because they ping-backed my blog . The site is called Warning: The Truth About Child Protective Services and The Staggering Impact on Society. At first I thought it was an anti-conspiracy theory site because of this article: Breaking News: Alex Jones Admits Pizzagate is Fake

What's weird is that other pieces at the site are pushing the #Pizzagate narrative pretty hard, including a copy of the recent SOTT piece that's been cited already at this thread. I can't make head or tail of the site, actually, and I'm posting it here as a curiosity, mostly, with a big ?

The essay in question is a long one (I only skimmed it), but this passage stood out as, a) it sums up a line of "reasoning" about Pizzagate that seems self-contradictory (how exactly is Alex Jones backing away from Pizzagate evidence for debunkers of C-Theories that it is fake?); b) it mentions the death of Monica Peterson which Plutonia referred to a few pages back).

December 5 Alex Jones Breaking News: The Washington Post noted that one of the main proponents of the Pizzagate theory was the far-right radio host beloved by President-elect Donald Trump, Alex Jones. Alex Jones repeatedly told his nut job listeners in a video that Clinton was involved in a child sex ring and that her campaign chairman, John Podesta, indulged in satanic rituals.

“When I think about all the children Hillary Clinton has personally murdered and chopped up and raped, I have zero fear standing up against her,” Jones said in a YouTube video posted on Nov. 4. “Yeah, you heard me right. Hillary Clinton has personally murdered children. I just can’t hold back the truth anymore.” Jones eventually tied his comments about Clinton to U.S. policy in Syria.

The Jones video, viewed more than 427,000 times, was deleted December 6 because Jones realized Pizzagate is fake news.

Now Jones is making some sense and telling his listeners that Pizza Gate is Fake and is A Diversion From the Greater Crimes.

It doesn’t matter that Jones lies about his most egregious greater crimes claims, he fired Joe Biggs and is finally doing the right thing by backing away from his role in spreading the “Pizzagate” lies.

As a matter of fact the Pizzagate witch hunt is spreading around the globe. Great Britain is experiencing one “Pizzagate” after another, and in Haiti, where these crack pots are now accusing Hillary of murdering Monica Petersen.



Ms. Peterson previously worked for the Colorado Human Trafficking Council’s Data & Research Task Force and was the assistant director at the Human Trafficking Center in Haiti. She died on November 13th, 2016. The director, Professor Claude d’Estrée, of the Center on Human Rights Education, posted the following message on Facebook after her death.

“I am heartbroken to report that Monica Petersen died today in Haiti. She was a recent graduate of the Korbel School, a Research Fellow and an Assistant Director at the Human Trafficking Center, and had moved to Haiti to teach and start an NGO.”

So what makes the news important? Well, unsubstantiated rumors are spreading that Petersen’s death was a result of her work in uncovering child sex rings and sex trafficking networks in Haiti related to the Clinton Foundation in Haiti.

The rumor gained widespread attention after a post on Reddit, The Donald sub, and The Political Insider.

Fortunately, we have a number of reliable common sense websites which are ready, willing, and able to debunk these rumors and conspiracy theories. One of the most popular fact-checking and debunking websites is http://www.Snopes.com. David and Barbara Mikkelson are the unassuming California couple who are honest referees to help us, “ordinary folks,” sort out the “news” from the 24-hour cable gasbags, partisan talk radio hosts, chain e-mails, blogs and Web sites.

The real truth seekers at Snopes investigated a comment made by d’Estree at the memorial service: “(She) decided to take on one of the demagogues in the field of human trafficking. Produced a 110-page analysis of human trafficking in Haiti – 2 years of research. We were looking for someone who was smart enough and maybe brave enough to publish her work. I will continue to seek out and publish it for her. We are in a state of shock. We may never know what exactly happened to her,” that the conspiracy community believed was referring to Clinton when in fact he was allegedly talking about Siddarth Kara.

Suddenly, the non-existent investigation was supposedly confirmed. Efforts to correct the record were dismissed and then on November 18th Professor d’Estrée cleared things up and announced that, “it was best to ignore rumors circulating about Petersen being killed for investigating sex trafficking in Haiti that may have been related to the Clinton Foundation, we do not support any of the rumors that have been circulating around the internet..”

[Elvis]

Although it really is quite an anti-capitalist film.

I agree. The plotline of IAWL, really, is an evil greedy banker loses out when the townfolk finally come together to win justice.

It reminds us that people can do the right thing, and that one person can make a difference. Not every movie has to be a downer. I also kinda of like the playful 'woo' aspect (the angel).

The best recommendation for IAWL that I know of is the FBI memo:

On May 26, 1947, the FBI issued a memo stating "With regard to the picture 'It's a Wonderful Life', [redacted] stated in substance that the film represented rather obvious attempts to discredit bankers by casting Lionel Barrymore as a 'scrooge-type' so that he would be the most hated man in the picture. This, according to these sources, is a common trick used by Communists. [In] addition, [redacted] stated that, in his opinion, this picture deliberately maligned the upper class

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_a_Wonderful_Life

All that said, I'm not a huge fan of the movie or anything and don't feel any need to watch it again. However, one of my favorite movies is Capra's It Happened One Night — another Capra movie about class, and imo very entertaining. Gorgeous B&B photography, too.

[Burnt Hill]

Its a Wonderful Life.
Is pro Humanity and anti-capitalist.
(And perhaps local to me).
If it is propaganda it is the kind we need more of.
Also it has a greater social impact now than it ever did when it was released.
No one demands you leave your critical thinking skills at the door.
It is perfectly fine to be moved by pictures such as this.
It may be essential.

[PufPuf93]

At what point does knowledge of what's behind the "art" or inside the artist start to become more important than one's enjoyment of it? I haven't stopped enjoying movies & TV shows (just rewatched True Detective season one, enjoyed it a lot), but I've become a lot more consciously on the look out for manipulations, dissembling, concealment, cultural toxins which the work itself may be just a delivery device for, like cigarettes & nicotine.

I just finished watching the 1946 Frank Capra classic, It's A Wonderful Life, for the first time. It inspires. It uplifts. It encourages. It instills faith. It promotes good as more powerful than evil and hope over despair, and despite its lack of culturally debasing content, or because of the lack, I sort of enjoyed it. But I feel like I'm missing something. Aside from the underlying or even blatant racism in every film of that era, I failed to see the "manipulations, dissembling, concealment, cultural toxins", etc." that must be present. Or is it possible that such a mainstay of wholesome family viewing is just that, a mainstay of wholesome family viewing and I should shut down and watch it like everyone else? I really wish I could.

"We raced up to Silver lake in the High Sierra --- where Wally Beery, Al Roscoe, and I used to fish and do crazy things with Beery's plane. We found that Beery's two-story lake cabin had been smashed into kindling by a hurtling avalanche of snow. But lake fishing proved too slow --- too much time to think between strikes.

We went fishing for the fighting steelhead in the Klamath River, near the Oregon border, staying at "Van" and Esther Van xxxxx's Lodge on Orleans Bar. But it wasn't fishing I wanted or reading, or playing the piano. I wanted to work, to make films, to wake up in the morning knowing I was needed somewhere".

From Page 223 The Name Above the Title An Autobiography by Frank Capra estimated from about 1937.

Van is my grandfather and the Lodge the first place I lived. I have a register from the immediate post WWII years that has names like Capra, Fred McMurray, Eddie Cantor, etc. The clientele was mostly Hollywood and San Francisco elite and San Francisco and Marin doctors. My grandparents had the resort from 1921 to 1959. The highway was constructed, prior access was by mule, horse or foot, in 1921. My grandparents had run the local store that was owned by a mule packing company (my grandfather had been a professional baseball player then mule packer) from 1911 until starting the resort. Herbert Hoover was also guest and the only thing I have ever bought on ebay is a photo of Hoover fly fishing at the riffle named for the resort from the early 1920s. Hoover liked the area enough that he bought an inholding in what became the Marble Mountain Wilderness on Wooley Creek flowing into the nearby Salmon River and built a cabin still owned to this day by the Hoover Institute.

My first exposure to freemasonry was from Colonel "Bob", a retired military guy from San Francisco. He would stay several months each year and part of my day would be spent hanging out on the porch with him. "Bob" would draw out and make forts and military battles in the dust with sticks and pine needles and I would patiently listen though not interested. He told me about the Masons and showed me his 33 Degree pin, only over 20 years later did I grasp the concept of Masons. He had a girl friend "Ruthie", a blonde woman, who would come down and they would go off and later come back and Ruthie would give me See's chocolate and fruit flavored bonbons. Later Ruthie tried to commit suicide and was flown to away and never came back. She was a Hollywood actress, how prominent I have no idea, and by the time I thought about it, no one was left that might know who she was. Ruthie and Bob were having an affair while her husband fished and got caught. I didn't understand until much later.

Near the Hoover cabin there was a private lodge with a sign "The Society of the Aeth" and an Egyptian anhk, said to be owned by San Francisco fishermen. No one knew the fishermen and this mysterious place was commented on whenever we drove by on the way to fish or camp or hunt. The property is now (and for the past 30 plus years) an exclusive kayak school and resort. In the biography of Paschal Beverley Randolph by John Patrick Deveney is told of a brief time Randolph spent in San Francisco and that his followers there formed a sex magick society. To Randolph, Aeth is the physical manifestation of all-pervading universal "fluid" that unites all levels of the universe to God. Ever since I read Deveney's biography I have wondered if these now long gone mysterious San Francisco "fisherman" were followers of Randolph and sex magicians. No one I have met knows the history

There was a gold rush era Episcopalian church there from the 1860s to early 1960s. Adjacent to the resort was an Episcopalian property called locally "The Rectory" that was used as a summer camp for Episcopalian seminary students. Episcopalians would often eat and socialize at my grandparent's resort. My grandmother was the only one who partook of religion. My older sister born 1946 has silver baptismal bowl inscribed "from Frank Capra".

I was an out of place student in the local two room elementary school and the decision was made was that I was to go to the San Rafael Military Academy (owned by the Episcopalians) in Fall 1966. I was 13 and entering 8th grade. I wrote about this some in the Occult Yorkshire thread (edit to add:but more about the other boarding school I attended near San Francisco founded by a VP of the Ford Foundation associated with likely Fabian schools in the UK) . The faculty was Episcopalian, retired military, and "other". There were two young seminarians that supervised each dorm. I learned to be anti-war (Vietnam) and of Bishop James Pike from those seminarians (Pike was a hero and local to them). Most of us at RI know of Bishop Pike from Philip K Dick, I became overtly aware of PKD several years later with The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch. SRMA was creepy with much bullying in form of things like mass punishment. Several kids tried to commit suicide. There was a 12 year old that entered 7th grade and ended up being repeatedly raped by the other students. Still other students knew (me) but did not know where to go or what to do, largely because of fear. Someone finally did take action and that student didn't come back from Christmas break. Nine 7th and 8th grade students lost weekend pass privileges and had to march off demerits. I believe older students and may be others were involved but in any case the affair was taken care of quietly. With hindsight, institutional adult failure was rampant and overlooked. Also the "other" members of the faculty were mostly bachelors in their 30s to 50s. Two took special interest in me in that I spent private time with them and took trips to San Francisco or elsewhere but nothing inappropriate ever occurred. With hindsight this may have been grooming. SRMA closed permanently in the early 1970s. I attended 8th and 9th grades, 66-68, and discovered the Haight-Ashbury and smoked pot and took lsd for the first time as a student at SRMA.

[OP ED]

continuing off-topic.

I don't even know how many decks I own now, I sort of collect them, so there are many.

Then you may enjoy these. Not tarot, the attributes are all different. I jokingly call it my 'Bavarian Illuminati' deck.

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Although I don't use cards anymore. I find they make my prescience foggy.

You ever wonder, if you immerse a society in a great deal of what we call fortune telling, that you could cloud the whole process? I wonder that sometimes.

And you ever get the feeling, it's all like working the well-worn paths of a tourist trap? I get that feeling sometimes. I say go with the ouija. Or even better, the automatic writing. 'Free' hand.

Here's one from the instruction manual

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I do some auto writing/drawing. There are pictures from my journals in my thread in the data dump if you want to see what my process looks like.

As for Ouija:

Totally off-topic, but in response to some earlier posts in this thread:

That's funny. I meant literally mocking, in that I get spreads that appear to reflect me asking something.

As far as divining, I don't mess with that much nowadays unless as a favor to someone else and that's easy enough to use even regular playing cards.

I don't even know how many decks I own now, I sort of collect them, so there are many. If I want perspective on a personal issue that suggests divination I usually just threaten Ouija.
Much more direct. Continual use seems to have the opposite effect on the board.

I've been wanting to get the Thoth deck, but for now I have Gilded Tarot, which seems pretty good for meditations and personal reflection.

As far as that dang Ouija goes... Do you take any precautions? I had a pretty frightening experience with my board when I was young, but I guess that's what happens when you hand a kid matches, gasoline, with no safety manual or fire extinguisher... I've always been a bit scared to use it again but still curious about it. Would definitely do things differently.

I don't use "precautions". I find my general lack of affect and belief is a decent defense against smaller etheric parasites. For the bigger sort, knowing how to talk to them is enough.

(The usual rule is do not summon that which you cannot dismiss)

I suppose you could count being experienced in multiple forms of woo as taking precautions but I don't think of it like that. I enjoy encountering the creepiness. My specialty when I actively witchdoctor is removal of odd things from physical locations and persons. What the profane call exorcism. I have a collection of minor poltergeists and a large stack of favors owed that I may eventually cash in.

(Although I abhor money, I have occasionally accepted payment in the form of sex, drugs and/or rock and roll)

My advice is not to use Ouija if you're afraid of it. Your fear is blood in the water and even the smallest imp can be bothersome if you feed it enough.

[dada]

It's a Wonderful Life.

George Bailey is having a bad day. He gets very drunk at the neighborhood bar, crashes his car, and decides to jump off a bridge. Happens to the best of us.

He's a good citizen. A family man, 'lives the dream.' Follows the rules. Why do injustices happen to everyday people? Poor sap. We sympathize.

Guardian Angel with comic style intervenes. Believable, although a bit over-the-top. It's a movie. We can allow a certain amount of cinematic license.

We learn, and George learns, that if he'd never existed, his absence would leave the world a poorer place. He saved his little brother, who in turn saved his army buddies. And he rescued his wife from becoming a librarian. A horrible, horrible fate. Everyone in the bar would be jerks, too. George made the bar a fun place.

So life is worth living. At the end, the community bands together to pay the debt that George was blamed for. This is the part that chokes us up. It hits us, because we know things don't always turn out that way. We're as surprised as George is. This is the way things should be. Why is it so strange that the community should gather to protect one of their own?

It strikes a chord because this is the most unbelievable part of the movie. The christmas miracle. It's as fantastic as the end of Dickens' Christmas Carol, when miserly old Ebenezer opens his heart to the world. We all know that in real life, Scrooge would wake up on christmas morning and say, "Jesus, what a horrible dream. My butler must have spiked my tea last night. I'm going to fire that guy. Well, time for work."

[Elvis]

And he rescued his wife from becoming a librarian. A horrible, horrible fate.

Still laughing...thx...


Good review.

[Heaven Swan]

Wow. This thread has really gone off the rails. What happened to Pizzagate? Wait a minute, was this a Pizzagate thread? The title is What's Happeneing? It?....

Has RI ever considered having a social, whatever thread? I know there's a lounge but does anyone really go there? Tarot Cards. Old movies???

And good you're back in one piece FB. Really glad you're ok. Suggestion- you could start an 'Adventures of Fourth Base' thread and talk about what happened, whatever you feel comfortable with talking about that is.

[Perelandra]

And he rescued his wife from becoming a librarian. A horrible, horrible fate.

Still laughing...thx...

Good review.

LOL, good stuff. This whole page made me smile, thanks guys. PP93, your posts are always interesting. Maybe you should start a blog, I'd read it.

[MacCruiskeen]

one of my favorite movies is Capra's It Happened One Night — another Capra movie about class, and imo very entertaining. Gorgeous B&B photography, too.

Yes! I love that film. The acting and cinematography are both great. Those close-ups when they start to fall for each other are incredibly intense, and there's no music to break the spell.

Also Mr Deeds and Mr Smith and Meet John Doe.

dada's summary of IAWL is really funny, but I do like and admire Capra's best films, and I think he's too often sneered at. Ray Carney defends him well:

For a reality check, I'd remind a contemporary viewer that the subversiveness of Capra's work was not lost on the real-world subjects of his movies. Following an advance screening of Mr. Smith Goes to Washington in Washington D.C., legislation was introduced in the Senate whose ultimate goal was to block the release of the film and to persuade Columbia to destroy the negative.

[MacCruiskeen]

My most meaningful memory of IAWL was the look of scorn I got from a hardcore Marxist friend during a film class because I was crying. (First time I'd seen it.) I recall it was introduced by the professor as an example of the 'necessary lie' movie, the kind of thing America had to tell itself in order to feel exceptionally good and just. Although it really is quite an anti-capitalist film.

It still makes me cry, though not as hard as the 'Marseillaise' in Casablanca.

Yes to all that. I've known that kind of "hardcore Marxist" too, and it's a brutal distortion and misunderstanding of Marx's ideas to imagine that facing reality means dismissing all feeling or losing all ability to feel. I presume that "look of scorn" came from a man, by the way. This is not irrelevant. Something I remember hating back in the 80s was the cackling that would break out in cinemas whenever some particularly gross act of violence took place on the screen. Of course those cacklers were always blokes.

[dada]

Perhaps we could say this thread is like a handkerchief, and there are markings on it that appear to be some sort of pizza-related map?

Has RI ever considered having a social, whatever thread? I know there's a lounge but does anyone really go there? Tarot Cards. Old movies???

Yes, the lounge is really the social, whatever thread-space. I go there fairly often, and I usually see between one and five guests viewing at any given time. Occasionally none, sometimes more. Sometimes a day or two will go by between posts, sometimes there are a half dozen posts in one day. I'd say it averages out to about a post per day.

It's a high quality space, with a casual, relaxed atmosphere. Posters seem to be more un-selfconscious and spontaneous, whether they're interacting or just riffing on whatever is on their minds. And it's always been that way. I enjoy it immensely. Recently I went browsing through old lounge threads, and had a grand old time.

See, now I'm making it sound too appealing. Forget I said all that. The lounge is an arbiter's grounds. No, even worse. Echoing halls filled with beetles and mummies.

[Nordic]

Thanks for that account, Puffpuff93. Really interesting and well written.

[PufPuf93]

And he rescued his wife from becoming a librarian. A horrible, horrible fate.

Still laughing...thx...

Good review.

LOL, good stuff. This whole page made me smile, thanks guys. PP93, your posts are always interesting. Maybe you should start a blog, I'd read it.

and Nordic says:

Thanks for that account, Puffpuff93. Really interesting and well written.

Is not "It" organized but hidden pedophilia at high places?

Thank you Perelandra and Nordic for the nice words.

I do well to make the occasional rambling trips through the past with touch points related to RI.

More thought of the anhk on the sign for "The Society of the Aeth" as my first hint to the mystery of Egypt.

When one is 13 years old and unnaturally and unexpectedly away from home, how does one tell their parents about shit like what happened to Jon xxxxxx who went away home back to Idaho and never returned after Christmas break?

What did Jon and the school tell his parents?

What is a healthy friendship between a 14 year old boy and a 50 year old man within an environment where abuse, mostly older boy on younger boy, was rampant, part of a long culture, and ignored or allowed by adults in charge, be they clergy or military?

I built internal walls and never told my folks about Jon, who lived six doors down the hall; and the lsd was part of a reveal and crisis in my late teens. As desperate as I was to get out (and did to another boarding school mentioned in the Yorkshire and Tantra threads in sophomore year), some ways especially in the eyes of my parents I thrived in that sick place with some spots of light

PS Great review of IAWL dada.

[Burnt Hill]

"This is the way things should be. Why is it so strange that the community should gather to protect one of their own?"

I love this.
It shouldn't be so strange.
And it absolutely is not in many communities.
The idea of a diseased culture being birthed by diseased individuals is abhorrently false.
Abuse exists, it is not the prime motivator of the spirit of man.