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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:14 am

ELECTION 2016
A Dire Prediction for Trump's First 100 Days

Putin's power grab is a blueprint for Donald Trump's budding kleptocracy.

By Travis Nichols / AlterNet December 15, 2016


If Trump is sworn in as president, there will be a terrorist attack on U.S. soil within his first 100 days. [Editor's note: Or anytime early in his term; the results would be the same.] In response to this terrorist attack, pundits will say America must rally behind the president, that we must put the disputed election, the CIA intelligence of tampering, the bruised egos and hurt feelings behind us and come together to fight the outside threat. And we’ll do it, and Trump will no longer be the unpopular buffoon in office with a giant asterisk and no mandate. He will be entrenched on the throne.

The attack will happen either because groups that have been plotting for years recognize the first days in the reign of a uniquely unqualified puppet of corporate interests as an opportunity (see here), or it will occur with the complicity of Trump’s corporate interests and their shadowy intelligence services in order to shore up support for their uniquely unqualified stooge.

The daily revelations of Trump’s ties to Russian intelligence services and business interests, as well as his appointment of Russian “Order of Friendship” winner Rex Tillerson as secretary of state, make this dire prediction plausible.

Why? Because it’s happened before.

In the fall of 1999, just months after then-unknown former FSB agent Vladimir Putin had been sworn in as prime minister of Russia, someone began bombing apartment buildings. Over the course of two terrible months, hundreds of people died in the series of explosions around the country and thousands were injured. As Masha Gessen tells it in her book The Man Without a Face, “panic set in all over the country.” The majority of the country assumed Chechen terrorists were responsible. Paranoia became the national mood and vigilante surveillance the national pastime. Into this chaos stepped Vladimir Putin.

“Putin made one of his first television appearances,” Gessen writes, “‘We will hunt them down,’ he said of the terrorists. ‘Wherever we find them, we will destroy them. Even if we find them in the toilet. We will rub them out in the outhouse.'...His popularity began to soar.”
Putin never looked back. Over the next 17 years, Putin ,  the uniquely unqualified newcomer to political office , became a global authoritarian. Russia was never the same.

Since those fateful days, experts around the world have come to agree that the Russian government was complicit in the terrorist bombings that swept Putin into power.

In the U.S., reporters as ideologically far apart as the National Review and the New York Review of Books have come to the same conclusion.

From the National Review:

“The evidence is overwhelming that the apartment-house bombings in 1999 in Moscow, Buinaksk, and Volgodonsk, which provided a pretext for the second Chechen war and catapulted Putin into the presidency, were carried out by the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB).”
From the New York Review of Books:

“The evidence...makes an overwhelming case that Russian authorities were complicit in these horrific attacks.”
Primarily and most astonishingly, the evidence is simple. The FSB was caught red-handed planting bombs in an apartment building.

Again, from the National Review:

"...a fifth bomb was discovered in the basement of a building in Ryazan, a city southeast of Moscow, and those who had placed it turned out to be not Chechen terrorists but agents of the FSB. After these agents were arrested by local police, Nikolai Patrushev, the head of the FSB, said that the bomb had been a fake and that it had been planted in Ryazan as part of a training exercise. The bomb, however, tested positive for hexogen, the explosive used in the four successful apartment bombings.”
And from the NYRB:

“Residents of an apartment complex had reported unusual activity in the basement and observed that three people in a car with partially papered-over license plates had unloaded sacks whose contents they couldn’t make out. A professional bomb squad arrived and discovered that the sacks contained not only sugar but also explosives, including hexogen, and that a detonator was attached. After the sacks were examined and removed, they were sent by the local FSB to Moscow. The entire apartment building was evacuated. Local authorities found the car used by the three who had planted the explosives, a white Zhiguli, in a nearby parking lot. To their astonishment the license plates were traced to the FSB.”
In case that isn’t enough, there’s also conclusive evidence the FSB had advanced knowledge of the previous bombings, and at the very least, refused to step in to stop them. And Hexogen, the ingredient found in all of the bombings, as well as the sacks in Ryazan, could at the time only be obtained from government facilities controlled by the FSB.

So, to summarize: In 1999 the FSB, the same organization now suspected of tampering in the U.S. election to tip it in favor of Donald Trump, was caught in the act of planting bombs in civilian apartment buildings in Russia in order to sow chaos and consolidate power for its disputed leader of choice.

Surely, we’d never accept such a blatant power grab or allow ourselves to be manipulated so easily here in the U.S. Surely there’s no way that the people complicit in bombing their own people would be left free to hold onto power, and even if they were, that we would let evidence of them tampering in our own presidential election slide? Right?

Travis Nichols works for Greenpeace. He is the author of Off We Go Into the Wild Blue Yonder and The More You Ignore Me.
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Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:24 pm

8bitagent » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:18 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:39 pm wrote:
stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:22 pm wrote:BTW Mac, love the Keith photoshop. Yours?


No, Robert, it's not photoshopped. That is Olbermann's own Twitter avatar. Seriously. He chose it. Here's his Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/keitholbermann?lang=de

Keith Olbermann has 676,000 followers. (File under: Stories That Should Be In The Onion.)


Keith should stick to sports. Or barking at 2006 era Dubya. He's self parody at this point


I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but I am loving Olbermann's GQ rants, The Closer and especially The Resistance. The twitter avatar is just ... perfect. Spot-on reflection of what he is projecting. Why do I love it? I've always found it puzzling how many on the American Left (yeah, that's a fuzzy designation, I hope you get what I mean) shy away from public displays of patriotism. Michael Moore struck a similar pose about twelve years ago, but even then I found his personal display to be somewhat shy, a little too sensitive, even meek.

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It's not that I don't understand the reticence, it probably has something to do with the quote frequently misattributed to Sinclair Lewis about fascism coming to America wrapped in the flag, but I think there is a duality at play where Keith, who I sincerely doubt is unaware of the quote, is using the flag as both an ironic fuck-you and an unironic statement of truth. I can also understand why that would gross the fuck out of a lot of intelligent people - but I love that Keith doesn't care, that he understands at a time like this if you want to speak out against someone like Trump, you can't afford to be shy, sensitive or meek - you've got to come out balls-to-the-wall, top-of-the-mountain, Howard Fucking Beale. Sam the Goddamn Eagle.

Now, while I think his style is a work of batshit brilliance, that doesn't mean I'm in lock-step agreement with the entirety of his content. I don't believe he is correct in swallowing the CIA-fueled, MSM-rubberstamped judgment that the election was stolen by Russia. He's doing himself, his audience, and his country a disservice by hyping the distraction from the fact the theft was homegrown - a fact Dubya-era Keith was well aware of and had no problem broadcasting inconvenient stats like exit poll discrepancies in Ohio in 2004. Regardless, we are getting President Donald Trump. So I think Keith is taking the right approach because I agree with his larger point: Trump is worse than George W. Bush. I really hope I'm wrong, it seems to me, and I never thought I'd write these words, that having the next four years be just like during Dubya would be a best case scenario. But I have a feeling the Elite pulling Trump's strings have other plans in mind. And, in an area where I don't believe anyone is pulling his strings, I think Trump has given ample demonstration that he is way more racist than Bush.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:33 pm

I like them too....... :)

Michael and Olbermann

very hesitant to say that though I get beat up for anything I post now days :P
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:42 pm

stillrobertpaulsen » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:24 pm wrote:
8bitagent » Thu Dec 15, 2016 4:18 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:39 pm wrote:
stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Dec 14, 2016 8:22 pm wrote:BTW Mac, love the Keith photoshop. Yours?


No, Robert, it's not photoshopped. That is Olbermann's own Twitter avatar. Seriously. He chose it. Here's his Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/keitholbermann?lang=de

Keith Olbermann has 676,000 followers. (File under: Stories That Should Be In The Onion.)


Keith should stick to sports. Or barking at 2006 era Dubya. He's self parody at this point


I'm probably in the extreme minority here, but I am loving Olbermann's GQ rants, The Closer and especially The Resistance. The twitter avatar is just ... perfect. Spot-on reflection of what he is projecting. Why do I love it? I've always found it puzzling how many on the American Left (yeah, that's a fuzzy designation, I hope you get what I mean) shy away from public displays of patriotism. Michael Moore struck a similar pose about twelve years ago, but even then I found his personal display to be somewhat shy, a little too sensitive, even meek.
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Ach, it's disappointing to hear that from you, Robert. Say it ain't so.

Patriotism (n): Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name. In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit it is the first.

- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary (1911)


No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

- Barbara Ehrenreich, "Family Values": The Worst Years of Our Lives: Irreverent Notes from a Decade of Greed (1991).


I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality cult.

- Albert Einstein, My Credo (1932)


There's a huge difference between a) loving your native country and wanting to see its people happy and free; and b) bellowing "Russian scum!" at the camera, as the execrable Olbermann did. That's just breathtakingly crass demagoguery, and dangerous too: because it's warmongering.

Wrapped in the flag.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:55 pm

Dammit, Robert: Keith Olbermann is deranged:

Keith Olbermann ‏@KeithOlbermann ·4 hours ago

And how a graceful speaker completely fails to grasp the invasion of this country by a foreign power.

PaulaInTulsaOK @PaulaInTulsaOK

BarackObama is giving realDonaldTrump a master class in public speaking, diplomacy, class, grace and decorum.



https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/stat ... 76?lang=de



jesus christ...

Keith Olbermann ‏@KeithOlbermann · 6 hours ago

We know who you fucks are, and who you work for. You have become the thing you and the rapist Assange once pretended to fight.

WikiLeaksVerified Account ‏@wikileaks

CIA's "mop up man" Ken Dilanian is the NBC 'reporter' used to channel claim about president Putin + US election


Olbermann's "patriotism" (contd.):

Keith Olbermann verified account ‏@KeithOlbermann 15. Dec

So you, Rep Pete King, can bury this, you Un-American Fuck? #SelfDeport


Megyn Kelly @megynkelly
.@RepPeteKing: It’s the job of the intel community to come brief us instead of leaking to press.


Keith Olbermann ‏@KeithOlbermann · 15. Dec.

The Electoral College: It's as if 83,549 days ago Alexander Hamilton foresaw the advent of Trump, the Russian Whore


oh ffs...

Keith Olbermann ‏@KeithOlbermann · 14. Dec.

We're reenacting the years before WW2. Putin is the Hitler. Donald Trump is appeaser Neville Chamberlain


- right, enough of this (and there's tons more evidence at his repulsive Twitter account, including his demagoguery on film).

Keith Olbermann is not a "patriot". Nor is he merely ridiculous, as I had thought.

Keith Olbermann is a warmongering fascist.
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Postby Agent Orange Cooper » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:14 am

Wow. He has lost his mind!
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Postby PufPuf93 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:27 am

Agent Orange Cooper » Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:14 pm wrote:Wow. He has lost his mind!


I have been partial to Olbermann since he was a baseball writer but agree.

Olbermann is way over the top in hate when he should be a voice to tone the rhetoric that supports of those I thought he abhorred.

Time to retire Keith. Ugly talk. I don't think I have ever observed the USA so unraveled. :mad2
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Postby stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:06 pm

MacCruiskeen » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:42 pm wrote:Ach, it's disappointing to hear that from you, Robert. Say it ain't so.

Patriotism (n): Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name. In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit it is the first.

- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary (1911)


No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

- Barbara Ehrenreich, "Family Values": The Worst Years of Our Lives: Irreverent Notes from a Decade of Greed (1991).


I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism. Privileges based on position and property have always seemed to me unjust and pernicious, as did any exaggerated personality cult.

- Albert Einstein, My Credo (1932)


There's a huge difference between a) loving your native country and wanting to see its people happy and free; and b) bellowing "Russian scum!" at the camera, as the execrable Olbermann did. That's just breathtakingly crass demagoguery, and dangerous too: because it's warmongering.

Wrapped in the flag.


Sorry, I only recently saw this. Also sorry to disappoint you. Just to make sure I'm not being misinterpreted, I'm not saying that I'm going to strike a pose like this any time in my personal life, or on my blog for that matter. I happen to agree with Bierce, Ehrenreich and Einstein and my general attitude toward patriotism tends to mirror that of Bill Hicks, "It's a round world last time I checked." But until civilization summons the cajones to wrench up from our collective subconscious into consciousness the understanding that unless we change the way money works, all the flag-waving, gun-toting, and loyalty pledges won't change a damn thing, we're going to have to contend with watching our collective fate be determined by the economically ensconced and argued over by the ideologically imprisoned. So from my perfect perch in the peanut gallery, I'm enjoying watching Moore and especially Olbermann don their Captain America gear to counter the MAGAlomaniacs. Again, as I stated earlier in the section of my quote you deftly omitted, my approval regards style more so than content, so it's quite possible our disagreement is really more out of taste than philosophy.

Then again, I really think your priorities and sense of scale is way, way off. You think Keith Olbermann is a "warmongering fascist"? With what fucking army? With what state, what means of production? He doesn't even have his own cable TV show anymore! Ah yes, he's got a Twitter following of 676,000, 99% of whom don't even own a fucking handgun because they're too busy protesting the laws that allow it! Now, if Hillary Clinton were the President-elect and Keith was bellowing, "Russian scum!", then you and I would be in agreement that he was being an active cheerleader in a current warmongering campaign. I would be extremely disappointed that instead of just being an impassioned ideologue he was merely a partisan putz, and I would call him out for it.

But here is reality as I see it: Russia is yesterday's news. There isn't going to be a war against Russia by the US during the interregnum and it certainly isn't going to happen afterwards. China is the new scum; the upcoming administration's eyeball-to-eyeball sabre-rattling target intended to maximize profits, even at the risk of WWIII. Do you have a problem with that? If so, you might consider being as vocally virulent toward the warmongering fascist who made that so, rather than the youtube muppet caterwauling about a hack that was most likely a leak. A true sense of priorities should dictate calling out fascists that are actually in a position (or preparing to assume a position) to wage war. Or do you really think Trump is just same ol'-same ol'; no significant escalation in the creeping fascism that constitutes the US of A?
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Postby Luther Blissett » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:32 pm

The typeface in that centered(!) letter to the electors on the first page is Archer: cutesy typeface of the 21st century.
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Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:44 am

stillrobertpaulsen » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:06 pm wrote:But here is reality as I see it: Russia is yesterday's news. There isn't going to be a war against Russia by the US during the interregnum and it certainly isn't going to happen afterwards. China is the new scum; the upcoming administration's eyeball-to-eyeball sabre-rattling target intended to maximize profits, even at the risk of WWIII. Do you have a problem with that? If so, you might consider being as vocally virulent toward the warmongering fascist who made that so, rather than the youtube muppet caterwauling about a hack that was most likely a leak. A true sense of priorities should dictate calling out fascists that are actually in a position (or preparing to assume a position) to wage war. Or do you really think Trump is just same ol'-same ol'; no significant escalation in the creeping fascism that constitutes the US of A?


We are at war with Eastasia. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Orwell got the texture and emotional mix of the society all wrong -- Huxley had that straight -- but he had a grasp of the geopolitics, where the wars would be, what the major power blocs would be. Of course, 1984 is a sub-set within Brave New World, no contradiction necessarily.

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Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 22, 2016 12:58 am

Apropos and timely:
http://cn.nytimes.com/usa/20161222/pete ... ina-trade/

Mr. Navarro, 67, a professor at the University of California, Irvine, who holds a doctorate from Harvard, is the only credentialed economist in Mr. Trump’s inner circle. He is the author of a series of jeremiads, including a 2012 documentary film, “Death by China,” in which an animation of a Chinese knife stabs a map of the United States and causes blood to run freely. Mr. Navarro has said that China is effectively waging an economic war by subsidizing exports to the United States and impeding imports from it. Mr. Trump, influenced by Mr. Navarro’s work, described this on the campaign trail as “the greatest theft in the history of the world.”

Mr. Trump has said he will persuade Beijing to change its policies by applying pressure, including designating China a currency manipulator; enforcing existing trade laws more vigorously; and, if necessary, imposing a 45 percent tariff on Chinese imports. In a statement, Mr. Trump described Mr. Navarro as “a visionary economist” and said he would “develop trade policies that shrink our trade deficit, expand our growth and help stop the exodus of jobs from our shores.”


Eh, what's a trillion in debt to China? A bit of QE should fix that, right?

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-debt-to- ... wn-3306355

The U.S. debt to China is $1.157 trillion, as of September 2016. That's 30 percent of the $3.901 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. The rest of the $19.5 trillion debt is owned by either the American people or by the U.S. government itself. For more, see Who Owns the U.S. National Debt?

China holds less U.S. debt than the record $1.317 trillion it held in November 2013.

It reduced its holdings to allow its currency, the yuan, to rise. It's loosening its peg to the dollar. That will make the yuan more attractive to forex traders in global markets. Long-term, China wants the yuan to replace the U.S. dollar as the world's global currency. China is also responding to accusations of manipulation. For more, see Currency Wars.

Before February 2014, China had been strengthening the yuan in response to U.S. pressure. But it reversed course when the dollar rose 25 percent in 2014 and 2015, dragging the yuan with it. China needed to lower the yuan to remain competitive with other emerging markets. Their currencies were free-floating. For more, see Asset Bubble and Yuan to Dollar Conversion.

China has consistently held more than $1 trillion in U.S. debt since 2010. That's when the Treasury Department changed how it measures the debt. Before July 2010, Treasury reports show China held $843 billion in debt.

That makes it difficult to make long-term comparisons. (Source: "Major Holdings of U.S. Treasury Securities," September 6, 2016.)

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Postby JackRiddler » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:05 am

8bitagent » Thu Dec 15, 2016 3:56 am wrote:We're witnessing the Idiocracy meta-reality twilight zone happening...and its glorious. What better way to get back at America for centuries of slavery, genocide, war, and evil than having a reality tv star baby
now the most leader of America and the most powerful person in the world?


What do you think you're doing? Who do you think is this "America" that's going to get punished now?

At least in the legend of Nero he was actually the emperor. Rome cruised right on past the Crisis of 68 to another three centuries plus of practicing slavery, genocide, war and evil -- on others, you understand? The reality of the thing you think you're celebrating -- that you think you're watching on a movie screen -- is more of all of the above.

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Postby mentalgongfu2 » Thu Dec 22, 2016 1:52 am

Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business (1985) is a book by educator Neil Postman.

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Postman distinguishes the Orwellian vision of the future, in which totalitarian governments seize individual rights, from that offered by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World, where people medicate themselves into bliss, thereby voluntarily sacrificing their rights. Drawing an analogy with the latter scenario, Postman sees television's entertainment value as a present-day "soma", by means of which the citizens' rights are exchanged for consumers' entertainment.

The essential premise of the book, which Postman extends to the rest of his argument(s), is that "form excludes the content," that is, a particular medium can only sustain a particular level of ideas. Thus rational argument, integral to print typography, is militated against by the medium of television for this reason. Owing to this shortcoming, politics and religion are diluted, and "news of the day" becomes a packaged commodity. Television de-emphasises the quality of information in favour of satisfying the far-reaching needs of entertainment, by which information is encumbered and to which it is subordinate.


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Postby stefano » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:24 am

stillrobertpaulsen » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:24 am wrote:It's not that I don't understand the reticence, it probably has something to do with the quote frequently misattributed to Sinclair Lewis about fascism coming to America wrapped in the flag, but I think there is a duality at play where Keith, who I sincerely doubt is unaware of the quote, is using the flag as both an ironic fuck-you and an unironic statement of truth. I can also understand why that would gross the fuck out of a lot of intelligent people - but I love that Keith doesn't care, that he understands at a time like this if you want to speak out against someone like Trump, you can't afford to be shy, sensitive or meek - you've got to come out balls-to-the-wall, top-of-the-mountain, Howard Fucking Beale. Sam the Goddamn Eagle.

It irritated me because I thought he was making a visual reference to this:
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(Huh. Part of the filename is 'blacksNewOrleans'.)

Seriously you don't find anything remotely annoying about him calling his show 'The Resistance'? Like he's John Connor fighting SkyNet, by getting paid well to record a bit of video every other day or whatever? Looks to me like he had a spontaneous orgasm when the results came in, because he knew there was a gig in it for him. I wonder how long he waited before he called his agent.
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Postby stefano » Thu Dec 22, 2016 3:29 am

JackRiddler » Thu Dec 22, 2016 6:58 am wrote:
Mr. Trump has said he will persuade Beijing to change its policies by applying pressure, including designating China a currency manipulator; enforcing existing trade laws more vigorously; and, if necessary, imposing a 45 percent tariff on Chinese imports.

I seriously doubt he'll do anything at all to imperil the purchasing power of the American upper and middle class - the fight for whose support has been the point of US politics for some decades now. For the same reason he can't do anything substantial about illegal immigration. Suburban Americans have got used to low-wage gardeners and housemaids, and cheap shit from China. I can't imagine government trying to change that.
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