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Re: 9/11

Postby heath7 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:57 pm

Can we at least agree that if 9/11-New York wasn't CD, then it was perhaps the most fortunate coincidence ever (for the PTB that is, in the long run perhaps not)? If the PTB isn't implicated, then 'fate' damn sure is, and it'd be pretty hard to deny, something bigger is steering human events. <br><br>Its much easier for my simple mind to suspect those buildings were brought down somehow by greedy human motives.<br><br>I haven't seen the refutations on this board discrediting the physics professor from Utah who has had dozens of colleagues sign on to his study saying the buildings could not have just fallen the way they did. I'm curious to see how we, as non-scientists, manage to argue against his stance. <br><br>Why woudn't Tucker Carlson just play the video of Building 7 falling if there is nothing to be paranoid about? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=heath7>heath7</A> at: 3/7/06 2:03 pm<br></i>
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Postby Qutb » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:45 pm

"while those who reject CD...in essence, even though many equivocate, accept the Bushie agenda and the racist myth of OBL etc."<br><br>After "Madonna practices Kabbalah and I read she sold her soul to the devil for fame", that is the second most stupid thing I've read on this board. <br><br>And that is saying quite a lot.<br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby antiaristo » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:51 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Pray tell, what "foreign country" might this be?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The United Kingdom. <p></p><i></i>
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Galileo: But It DOES! [revolve around the Sun]

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:54 pm

Wonder how your comments will pass Jeff's scrutiny, Outb...they're certainly more inflamatory than mine.<br><br>But if there's one constant throughout this crisis...as discussed on the forums...whether this one or others....the righties can insult all they want, including anti muslim/islami tirades...but if the lefties 'sink' to the same level....there's an immediate cry of 'foul'!<br><br>BTW...my last comment about telling the truth being 'a dangerous act' was because several of my responses were 'zapped' before that one was 'allowed'.<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Galileo: But It DOES! [revolve around the Sun]

Postby greencrow0 » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:58 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Let's try to dismantle some of the wedge issues, okay?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Jeff, can you let me know what some of the 'wedge issues' are? I will be happy to attempt to dismantle them.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>GC <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby nomo » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:05 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The United Kingdom.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Wait, so you're saying we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq for the wrong reasons? <br><br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :\ --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby antiaristo » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:08 pm

Why did you attack Afghanistan and Iraq? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby thumperton » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:13 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The United Kingdom.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->wasn't it the Mossad guys who were jumping for joy? <p></p><i></i>
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Re: Galileo: But It DOES! [revolve around the Sun]

Postby nomo » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:15 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>But if there's one constant throughout this crisis...as discussed on the forums...whether this one or others....the righties can insult all they want, including anti muslim/islami tirades...but if the lefties 'sink' to the same level....there's an immediate cry of 'foul'!<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Methinks that if you have a strong argument, there's no need for any name-calling.<br><br>Not to mention that there's something to be said about not stooping to "their" level. Keeping the "moral high ground" or some such quaint notion. Let's all just agree to respectfully disagree, and not second-guess each other's motives.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Re: Wedge issues:</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> "controlled demolition" is a perfect example. While many of us can agree 9/11 was an inside job, that doesn't mean CD is universally accepted as definitive proof. And while we keep debating the pros and cons until the cows come home, nothing ever gets done to expose the many anomalies that we <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>do </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->agree upon. <br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re:

Postby Qutb » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:16 pm

"But if there's one constant throughout this crisis...as discussed on the forums...whether this one or others....the righties can insult all they want, including anti muslim/islami tirades...but if the lefties 'sink' to the same level....there's an immediate cry of 'foul'!"<br><br>You're so damn obtuse you're getting on my nerves. I'm disgusted by the anti-Arab/anti-Muslim racism that's been coming from conservative circles these last few years. You and others on this board are indeed sinking to the same level. <p></p><i></i>
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wedge issues

Postby Rigorous Intuition » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:24 pm

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Jeff, can you let me know what some of the 'wedge issues' are? I will be happy to attempt to dismantle them.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>If I may <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/05/let-me-put-it-this-way.html">quote</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> myself: <br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Truth, especially with a capital "T," is elusive at the best of times, and these aren't they. We ought, rather, to be 9/11 skeptics, of not only the official story but also the competing narratives, because if we abandon critical thought and lapse into solipsistic dogma, <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>we become nothing but evangelizing priests of a conspiracist cult</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->. (And if that happens, then my wife is going to say 'I told you so.')<br><br>...<br><br>Microanalyzing keeps us busy. Meanwhile, they get away with it, again. 9/11 is a crime, and as I've said, crimes are not in the end How Done Its, they are Who Done Its. And if we are ever to reach the end, which is justice, then we had better get it through our heads that knowing the mechanics of their magic doesn't get us there.</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>I invite you to make your case for CD. But saying, essentially, <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>If you don't believe as me, you're part of the problem</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, is needlessly and tragically divisive. It's creating a wedge where there needn't be one. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby nomo » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:25 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> Why did you attack Afghanistan and Iraq?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>It seemed like a good idea at the time.<br><br>Or more to the point: we'd planned that many years in advance, and besides why else do you think we spend half our GDP on the military? Gotta get our money's worth.<br><br>But all sarcasm aside, I got the succinct impression that GC was implying a certain third party from the Middle East, much in the way Thumper is referring to a Mossad dance troupe, above. For you to suggest it must have been the UK I thought was rather funny (even though you probably weren't joking.)<br><br>Now, I don't know how many nations were involved in planning the attacks, but it seems clear that the ultimate responsibility for letting/making it happen lies with the US, even if the ulterior motive was a simple as keeping the military/industrial complex a-buzzin'.<br><br>Which reminds me: anybody see the movie "Why We Fight?" Or maybe that deserves its own thread?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby slimmouse » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:27 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Why did you attack Afghanistan and Iraq?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> I saw this comment, John, and in its own right, It could easily be worthy of its own thread.<br><br> Opium, Weapons, and Empire would be my best guess.<br><br> Plus the fact that those behind the New 4th reich simply love a good war anyways, along with the accompanying suffering and population reduction.<br><br> Ole Henry kissinger for instance will probably be soiling his shorts as the first wave of murder begins <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby Qutb » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:33 pm

I've seen "why we fight". I liked it. <p></p><i></i>
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Re: 9/11

Postby slimmouse » Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:40 pm

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I've seen "why we fight". I liked it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> Ive seen that to. Quite liked it myself. In my book, that falls under the Weapons and Empire category.<br><br> After all, you cant beat a good war for draining the average guys earnings ( labour), and relocating it in the pockets of the usual suspects.<br><br> Same as it ever was, I suppose. <p></p><i></i>
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