What is #Pizzagate?

[mentalgongfu2]

I've already told them that Jeff Koons fights child abduction because his child was once abducted, but they just want to be sad about a made-up lava devil that lives underground.

[JackRiddler]

It's now being established as uncontested history that Nixon's campaign worked behind the scenes to sabotage the 1968 peace talks that could have ended the American war in Vietnam -- an outcome that would have also surely swung the election against Nixon. There was no deal, Nixon extended the war by another five years, about two million more people died as a direct result. The extension of the war into Cambodia caused that country to collapse and be taken over by the Khmer Rouge, another democide followed. The living primary architect of this crime against humanity is Henry Kissinger. In a historically conscious society, in a place where the value of life is understood, this would be a huge issue. A trial would follow. Better paths for an eventual world, one without the sicknesses of "geostrategy" and war, might open up.

So a lot more people think it's important to waste their own time by projecting their unprocessed shadow lives on to randomly chosen figures from the art world. Can't really say that I care about their time. It's not like minds this damaged could be doing anything particularly constructive without undergoing some serious work on themselves.

The defamation of various people is of course a problem. There are all kinds of entertainment genres that the #pizzagate obsessives could instead consume to bring at least temporary satisfaction to their hidden desires, without smearing randomly chosen others. But it's a big world full of problems.

The real sin here, once again, is that completely fabricated bullshit scandals are being added to the general noise, generating and absorbing an endless cycle of outrage, foreclosing on other possibilities for public attention. Over and over and over. Now the banner has been taken up by the viral freelance forces of the lucky people home-schooled by the Alex Jones show. You're doing the work of the corporate/state distraction propaganda machine -- for free! There is no sense of what's real and what matters. There is no sense of what constitutes evidence and how to deploy it.

It's a kind of insulation even for people named who might actually be criminal in some real fashion. Like, fantasy scenario, what if Damien Hirst turns out to be some kind of money-laundering mafioso? Who the fuck will care about that when morons have already put him on their fantasy power chart as a satanist artist on Qatar's payroll! And this could go on and on as a list. Every big bad actor seems to have the insulation of a ridiculous fabricated scandal to dismiss (Obama's birthplace, Clinton's "Benghazi," etc.)

Poor Mark Lombardi. Poor everyone who ever tried to do honest research on the ruling beasts.

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[divideandconquer]

What do you make of the first part of this video...the mainstream report?

https://vid.me/ZKAj

[tapitsbo]

Barracuda already told us (in between trying to distract us with unrelated logos) that was a family-friendly symbol and not a valid cause for suspicion.

Seriously though, the more intriguing aspects of Pizzagate had nothing to do with any supposed email code.

[Luther Blissett]

Yeah but if it hadn't been for the "code" and ignorance of performance art, we never would have gotten to any of the other philistinism or stuff about the underground lava devil.

Any survivors yet?

[barracuda]

Barracuda already told us (in between trying to distract us with unrelated logos) that was a family-friendly symbol and not a valid cause for suspicion.

Ugh, don't take my name in vain. All I said was... no match.

hearts.jpg

trying to distract us

This happened long before I entered your life desu.

[mentalgongfu2]

Seriously though, the more intriguing aspects of Pizzagate had nothing to do with any supposed email

@tapistbo

What, pray tell, are these aspects more intriguing than the alleged exposure of a secret, satanic, cannibalistic network of child-trafficking criminals tied to a DC pizza joint and Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman?

@Searcher08

I couldn't get that chart to enlarge, so it is not readable for me at the moment. What is it supposed to show, exactly? "Overlap" is a broad and vague term.

[tapitsbo]

I don't see why an "email code" is make-or-break as far as that goes, mgf2.

there shouldn't be anything sacred about your name, barracuda. the same logo with the hands has been brought up in other trawls of pro-child abuse sites

just like the pro-sex-with children social media accounts that conspicuously feature many of the same symbols as the pizzagate materials...

but this is more of conversation for others to take up since a lot of your posts for the past decade and beyond seem to be mostly erudite gaslighting to help talk make sure talk about certain sensitive subjects goes off the rails.

And you were crudely trying to distract, highlighting a different logo we both know wasn't the one under discussion, among other things. Rude!

Yet your angle here isn't clear, there's no evidence for the summary/take you gave us a while ago. (Was it an advisory against talking about the suspicious pizzagate material? You gave several of those I recall. But why? )

[JackRiddler]

What is it supposed to show, exactly? "Overlap" is a broad and vague term.

What is it supposed to show? Someone hates artists and Democrats and Ay-rabs. Any of the above might end up on this chart, at random. Education is pointless, thinking is pointless, method is pointless. Seeking truth is pointless! Taking time to question your approach and assumptions is pointless. Disinfo cannot be extinguished. Confusionism will always grow. Confabulated issues already take up most of the public political discourse, and it will get worse and worse. Surrender, Dorothy. People who can draw boxes on computers think they're fucking geniuses. Every night there are 40 murders and lots of necro-porn on the cop shows, especially the CSIs, but for some reason Jerry Bruckheimer is not on this chart. Why not? Because that's wholesome entertainment.

This is more true of "research" than politics by the way:

[barracuda]

the same logo with the hands has been brought up in other trawls of pro-child abuse sites

Show me.

just like the pro-sex-with children social media accounts that conspicuously feature many of the same symbols as the pizzagate materials...

Show me.

but this is more of conversation for others to take up since a lot of your posts for the past decade and beyond seem to be mostly erudite gaslighting to help talk make sure talk about certain sensitive subjects goes off the rails.

Erudite? Lol heem. Try approaching the issue rather than the individual.

And you were crudely trying to distract, highlighting a different logo we both know wasn't the one under discussion, among other things. Rude!

No, you simply have a hard time following the thread. Sad!

Yet your angle here isn't clear, there's no evidence for the summary/take you gave us a while ago.

I disagree. Pizzagate looks like an op created by Bannon (early anti-semitic leanings) and implemented by Kushner (bot approvals), then carried by Milo (anti-Hillary gamergaters) and Cernovich (troll army). People fell for it (useful idiots).

Was it an advisory against talking about the suspicious pizzagate material? You gave several of those I recall.

Nope, I gave no such advisories. Talk about it all you like. I'll do the same, if it's all the same to you.

[seemslikeadream]

don't forget Gen. Fake News Flynn's son!

[mentalgongfu2]

ISeriously though, the more intriguing aspects of Pizzagate had nothing to do with any supposed email

@tapistbo

What, pray tell, are these aspects more intriguing than the alleged exposure of a secret, satanic, cannibalistic network of child-trafficking criminals tied to a DC pizza joint and Hillary Clinton's campaign chairman?

don't see why an "email code" is make-or-break as far as that goes, mgf2.

You don't see it? Because there might be as yet unproven tunnels beneath some restaurants and some Alefantis dude is gay and has a disturbing art collection? And tunnels=child trafficking despite the fact old tunnel systems are common throughout all old American cities for things like defunct metro systems or moving and storing beer, wine and liquor? Can you name one piece of the puzzle you deem make-or-break? Or is PG so compartmentalized that the debunking of any particular piece of alleged evidence has no impact on anything derived from the original conclusion even though it has been shown to be false?

Sorry for the question rant, but the constant goalpost moving of pg is frustrating. Please show the relevant, intriguing part of PG that totally seems legit without the emails. I'm all ears.

Or, as I begin to wonder, is all of PG really just a giant troll? I might be a trolling victim.... Could South Park be right again? I am starting to lean that way.

[BrandonD]

When I put on these weird sunglasses, the comic suddenly changed to a message: "Your authority figures are in their positions because of merit, greater knowledge, greater abilities - certainly not pathological ambition and ruthless criminal tendencies. If the actions of your leaders seem to you immoral or wrong, that is only because you are an ignorant plebe."

[km artlu]

Well said Brandon.
The trick of it is to conflate expertise in a specific technical skill with the rights and duties of a citizen.

[liminalOyster]

What do you make of the first part of this video...the mainstream report?

https://vid.me/ZKAj

1) Semiotics 101 should be taught in US high schools and it'd probably useful if a bit of John Berger (RIP) and Joseph Campbell is part of the syllabus too.
2) Larger questionable theses about a 1980s "satanic panic" entirely discarded, there's still a real historical echo here of hysterical suburban evangelicals frightened by a Motley Crue pentagram crudely painted on the brutalist concrete walls of a local elementary school.

child trafficking despite the fact old tunnel systems are common throughout all old American cities for things like defunct metro systems or moving and storing beer, wine and liquor?

I didn't get much traction when I suggested this before but I'll try again - I could see this particular point as almost-evidence of a deliberate historical notational reference to McMartin. If this is a Bannon viral media-event, why not draw on fragments of historical episodes that have been sequestered to classic "conspiracy theory" such that when they seem to occur again, they provide a huge repertoire for keyboard warriors to mine as well as activate a much larger and grander conspiracy?