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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:28 pm

Grizzly » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:26 pm wrote:This is complete lunacy. There is no evidence of a serious hacking attempt. The USG is acting the role of a teen aged drama queen. One that could become seriously detrimental to most of humanity, if things are continually ran without out ANY attempts at 'Statesmenship', diplomacy, or vision. We are methodically causing g a situation for who knows, what political ends. America, especially the 'Democrats', have lost the plot...





I know worse than 9/11

never seen anything like it :P

Now that's it's about Trump ....We need a upstanding CIA!!
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby Elvis » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:04 pm

Binney tells Washington’s Blog:

I expected to see the IP’s or other signatures of APT’s 28/29 [the entities which the U.S. claims hacked the Democratic emails] and where they were located and how/when the data got transferred to them from DNC/HRC [i.e. Hillary Rodham Clinton]/etc. They seem to have been following APT 28/29 since at least 2015, so, where are they?

Further, once we see the data being transferred to them, when and how did they transfer that data to Wikileaks? This would be evidence of trying to influence our election by getting the truth of our corrupt system out.

And, as Edward Snowden said, once they have the IP’s and/or other signatures of 28/29 and DNC/HRC/etc., NSA would use Xkeyscore to help trace data passing across the network and show where it went. [Background.]

In addition, since Wikileaks is (and has been) a cast iron target for NSA/GCHQ/etc for a number of years there
should be no excuse for them missing data going to any one associated with Wikileaks.

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Too many words means they don’t have clear evidence of how the data got to Wikileaks.



Binney is great, thanks for posting that.

Whoever gave the DNC emails to Wikileaks did us all a favor, so if it was "Russia"—thanks, "Russia"!

It seems obvious to me that the "Russians did it!" charge is a deliberate distraction from both the content of the emails and the real, proven election hijinx of both U.S. parties, not to mention the dubious vendor/operators of voting machines.
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:12 pm

Do you believe emails are worse than the crime of 9/11?

or the forged yellowcake documents?
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby SonicG » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:53 am

On the Eastern Shore, a 45-acre Russian compound kept its secrets close
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/on ... 4bf41c254b

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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby Sounder » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:13 am

elvis wrote...
It seems obvious to me that the "Russians did it!" charge is a deliberate distraction from both the content of the emails and the real, proven election hijinx of both U.S. parties, not to mention the dubious vendor/operators of voting machines.


We are collectively so afraid of seeing our own idiocy and duplicity that we must project it onto others.

The true enemy of a western exceptionalist is themselves.

The question is; how long until the fraud collapses and will the rest of the world survive our petulant crybaby demands and inchoate lashing out?

Even this headline is laughable; 'ohhhh, when daddy gets home, you are going to get punished.'



But at least I don't have that head exploding disease anymore, -since I got my lobotomy.
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby Searcher08 » Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:36 am

seemslikeadream » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:12 am wrote:Do you believe emails are worse than the crime of 9/11?

or the forged yellowcake documents?


How does one compare security breaches of corrupt criminal-filled organisations with Mr Atta's Flying Circus?

How does one compare documents which appear to be forged by people inside the CIA with information supplied to Wikileaks from someone within an Alphabet agency?
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Dec 31, 2016 9:34 am

the docs were not forged by someone in the CIA ..I can't believe you are saying that


they weren't security breaches ...9/11 was planned

and now the same people are going to be in the new White House Gen. Yellowcake Flynn is not CIA, he is military

what I am saying is everyone is forgetting that they got away with it

And now that Trump's in there WILL BE ANOTHER 9/11....LIHOP this time

why anyone is cheering that the same people that help start the war in Iraq are now in the White House to start a war with Iran is beyond me

In an explosive series of articles appearing this week in the Italian newspaper La Repubblica, investigative reporters Carlo Bonini and Giuseppe d'Avanzo reveal how Niccolo Pollari, chief of Italy's military intelligence service, known as SISMI, brought the Niger yellowcake story directly to the White House after his insistent overtures had been rejected by the Central Intelligence Agency in 2001 and 2002

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The CIA analysts thought the first report ‘very limited’ and ‘without the necessary details.’ INR analysts in the Department of State assessed the information as ‘highly suspect.’ … The immediate impact on the American Intelligence community wasn’t very gratifying for Pollari … Gianni Castellaneta advised him to look in ‘other directions’ too, while the minister of Defence, Antonio Martino invited him to meet ‘an old friend of Italy’s.’ The American friend was Michael Ledeen, an old fox in the ‘parallel’ intelligence community in the US, who had been declared an undesirable person in our country in the 1980’s . Ledeen was at Rome on behalf of the Office of Special Plans, created at the Pentagon by Paul Wolfowiz to gather intelligence that would support military intervention in Iraq. A source at Forte Braschi told La Repubblica : “Pollari got a frosty reception from the CIA’s station head in Rome, Jeff Castelli, for this information on uranium. Castelli apparently let the matter drop . Pollari got the hint and talked about it with Michael Ledeen.’ We don’t know what Michael Ledeen did in Washington. But at the beginning of 2002, Paul Wolfowitz convinced Dick Cheney that the uranium trail intercepted by the Italians had to be explored top to bottom. The vice-president, as the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence tells it, once again asked the CIA ‘very decisively’ to find out more about the ‘possible acquisition of Nigerien uranium.’ In this meeting, Dick Cheney explicitly said that this piece of intelligence was at the disposition of a “foreign service.”


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But committee staff sources say that before the cooperation ceased, the committee had received from Feith’s office internal memos suggesting that the office may indeed have been conducting unlawful activities. In particular, Democratic staffers are interested in a secret December 2001 meeting of two Feith deputies, Larry Franklin and Harold Rhode, with Ghorbanifar in Rome. The meeting also included members of a foreign intelligence service (Italy’s SISMI). The catch is that it wasn’t reported in advance to the intelligence committee or the CIA, in possible violation of Section 502 of the National Security Act, which says that anyone conducting intelligence activities must inform the committee and the agency


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Nicolo Pollari is testifying before a parliamentary committee over reports that Italy wilfully gave the US and UK evidence that turned out to be false....

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Laura goes into the Italian role in creating and disseminating these documents, referring to the La Repubblica series on the subject, but somehow neglects to mention the crucial American angle -- and the key role of American neocons, i.e. Michael Ledeen, in funneling the information contained in the Niger forgeries to Washington. Someone legitimized these fake documents by doing an end run around the CIA and the mainstream intelligence community, and injected a fabrication into the American intelligence stream. Who was it? La Repubblica fingers the Office of Special Plans, and names names, including Ledeen, Harold Rhode, and Larry Franklin, the confessed spy for Israel.

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... en#p622818

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The Italian newspaper La Repubblica has recently published an exposé alleging in essence that the Italian military intelligence agency SISMI (Servizio per le Informazioni e la Sicurezza Militare) at the specific behest of Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi provided bogus intelligence to the Bush neocons in order to curry favor with the U.S. and to abet the relentless drive for war between 9-11 and the March 2003 invasion. This follows an Italian parliamentary report released in part to the public in July concerning the forged Niger uranium documents at the heart of the Plame Affair. These, which purport to show a deal between Baghdad and Niger for the purchase of huge quantities of yellowcake, were it seems produced in the Italian capital.

The report names four men as the likely forgers of the documents (Michael Ledeen, Dewey Clarridge, Ahmed Chalabi and Francis Brookes) and suggests that the forgeries may have been planned at December 2001 gathering in Rome involving Ledeen and SISMI chief Nicolò Pollari. Also in attendance at that meeting: Larry Franklin, Harold Rhode, Manucher Ghorbanifar, Antonio Martino and others including a former senior official of the Revolutionary Guard in Iran. Here is a true rogues' gallery.

Michael Ledeen: neocon columnist, National Review Online contributing editor, specialist on the thought of Machiavelli and on Italian fascism, former employee of the Pentagon, the State Department and the National Security Council, was involved in the transfer of arms to Iran during the Iran-Contra affair. Active in the American Enterprise Institute, Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), and Center for Democracy in Iran (CDI). Advocates regime change by force in Iran and Syria.


who side is Putin going to take...is he going to side with Bibi's chump?
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jan 03, 2017 8:17 am

Snowden document suggests NSA could have proof of Russian hack
Looks like the NSA has a history of positively identifying Russian hacks.

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The FBI, CIA and President Barack Obama all agree that Russia hacked the DNC and asserted its will on the US presidential election -- but the winner of that contest isn't so sure. "It could be somebody else." Donald Trump told reporters over New Years. "Hacking is a hard thing to prove." Except, as it turns out, US intelligence has a pretty good track record of tracing security breaches back to the Kremlin. According to a new document leaked by Edward Snowden, the NSA has successfully traced a hack back to Russian intelligence at least once before.

According to The Intercept, a classified excerpt from page from the NSA's internal wiki shows that the NSA once verified that Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya's email account had been targeted by Russian Federal Intelligence Services a year before her 2006 murder. On the surface, that sounds about as vague as the current statements we have about the DNC hacks, but how its listed in the wiki reveals a lot.

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The information is classified as "Top Secret Signals Intelligence" -- a term that denotes the tracking of signals as they travel from place to place. In other words, the NSA knows Politkovskaya's email was hacked by Russian operatives because they were able to trace the hack back to Russian intelligence. It's still vague. The entry itself doesn't specifically say how this trace was accomplished or provide the evidence -- but the existence of the entry shows that the NSA is wholly capable of tracing such hacks back to their source.

It's not hard proof that Russia interfered in the US election, but it's certainly evidence that US intelligence agencies are capable of gathering such proof. Unfortunately, it's also an indicator that such evidence is typically classified -- and not something the company is likely to release if it risks showing its hand to foreign operators. Whatever evidence US intelligence officials may or may not have, the doubts of the President Elect will be either verified or strengthened soon. Donald Trump is scheduled to take the oath of office on January 20th.
https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/02/sno ... sian-hack/


TOP-SECRET SNOWDEN DOCUMENT REVEALS WHAT THE NSA KNEW ABOUT PREVIOUS RUSSIAN HACKING
Sam Biddle
December 29 2016, 9:37 a.m.
TO DATE, THE only public evidence that the Russian government was responsible for hacks of the DNC and key Democratic figures has been circumstantial and far short of conclusive, courtesy of private research firms with a financial stake in such claims. Multiple federal agencies now claim certainty about the Kremlin connection, but they have yet to make public the basis for their beliefs.

Now, a never-before-published top-secret document provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden suggests the NSA has a way of collecting evidence of Russian hacks, because the agency tracked a similar hack before in the case of a prominent Russian journalist, who was also a U.S. citizen.

People hold pictures of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya during a rally in central Moscow, 07 October 2007. Hundreds of Russian opposition activists rallied in central Moscow under a heavy security presence to mark the anniversary of the killing of investigative journalist Politkovskaya. AFP PHOTO / DMITRY KOSTYUKOV (Photo credit should read DMITRY KOSTYUKOV/AFP/Getty Images) People hold pictures of Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya during a rally in central Moscow on Oct. 7, 2007. Photo: Dmitry Kostyukov/AFP/Getty Images
In 2006, longtime Kremlin critic Anna Politkovskaya was gunned down in her apartment, the victim of an apparent contract killing. Although five individuals, including the gunman, were convicted for the crime, whoever ordered the murder remains unknown. Information about Politkovskaya’s journalism career, murder, and the investigation of that crime was compiled by the NSA in the form of an internal wiki entry. Most of the wiki’s information is biographical, public, and unclassified, save for a brief passage marked top secret:

Russian Federal Intelligence Services (probably FSB) are known to have targeted the webmail account of the murdered Russian journalist Anna Politkovskaya. On 5 December 2005, RFIS initiated an attack against the account annapolitkovskaia@US Provider1, deploying malicious software which is not available in the public domain. It is not known whether this attack is in any way associated with the death of the journalist.

Although the NSA document does not specify the account, Anna Politkovskaya was known to use the email address annapolitkovskaia@yahoo.com.

In response to a query from The Intercept about the hacking of Politkovskaya’s account, Yahoo replied in a statement: “We can only disclose information about a specific user account pursuant to our terms of service, privacy policy and law enforcement guidelines.”

The year after her email was hacked, Politkovskaya was murdered, a crime that was widely suspected, though never proven, to be a Kremlin reprisal for her reporting on Chechnya and criticism of Vladimir Putin.

This hack sounds more or less like a very rough sketch of what private firms like CrowdStrike allege the FSB perpetrated against the DNC this year, and presumably what entities like the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence have, behind closed doors, told President Obama took place.

What’s particularly interesting here is the provenance of NSA’s claims: The section is classified TS/SI, meaning Top Secret Signals Intelligence, the interception of signals (broadly construed) as they pass from one point to another, including anything from tapped phone calls to monitored internet traffic. That is to say, the NSA knew Russia hacked Politkovskaya because the NSA was spying. Thanks to the Snowden revelations, we know there are many powerful, overlapping government spy programs that could allow the NSA to observe communications as they unfold.

Unfortunately, in the case of this wiki there’s no indication of exactly what sort of SIGINT was collected with regard to Politkovskaya, or how it incriminated Russian intelligence — all we have is the allusion to the evidence, not the evidence. The NSA declined to comment.

But that this evidence existed at all is important, and more so today than ever. Simply, the public evidence that the Russian government hacked the Democrats isn’t convincing. Too much of what’s been passed off to the public as proof of Kremlin involvement is based on vague clues and educated guesses of what took place. Signals intelligence could bridge the empirical gap.

Adm. Mike Rogers, the current NSA chief, has already publicly claimed that Russia was behind the attack. “This was a conscious effort by a nation state to attempt to achieve a specific effect,” Rogers said in November, without specifically mentioning Russia.

NSA whistleblowers have so far given the best idea of what the NSA’s signals intelligence on Russia, today or in 2005, could look like. Earlier this year, Snowden tweeted that if the Russian government was indeed behind the hacking of the Democrats, the NSA most likely has the goods, noting that XKEYSCORE, a sort of global SIGINT search engine, “makes following exfiltrated data easy. I did this personally against Chinese ops.” Snowden went so far as to say that nailing down this sort of SIGINT hacker attribution “is the only case in which mass surveillance has actually proven effective.”

The ex-U.S. intelligence personnel who comprise the group Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, including fellow high-profile NSA whistleblower William Binney, echoed Snowden’s assessment earlier this month:

The bottom line is that the NSA would know where and how any “hacked” emails from the DNC, HRC or any other servers were routed through the network. This process can sometimes require a closer look into the routing to sort out intermediate clients, but in the end sender and recipient can be traced across the network.

Signal interception can take many different forms, and again, there’s no way to know exactly what the NSA had intercepted surrounding Anna Politkovskaya. But we know intelligence is being gathered on a fine enough level to pin the breach of a single inbox on the Russian government. If the NSA could use signals intelligence to track a specific hack of an American email account in 2005, it’s not too much to assume that, 10 years later, the agency possesses the same or better capability. And signals intelligence is the type of evidence that the American people are owed from the federal government today, as we contemplate a possible confrontation with Russia for interfering in our most important of democratic processes.
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/29/top ... n-hacking/
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby JackRiddler » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:48 am

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The NSA has not weighed in on these allegations about "Russia" or "Russians" (Russian intelligence services or Russian state) being responsible for the DNC and Podesta e-mail exposures. Not that this would mean the publication of the DNC and Podesta had any effect on the U.S. election - since it most demonstrably did not. But the NSA has not weighed in on the allegations that the DNC and Podesta e-mails were not handed to Assange by a leaker, but in fact provided by "Russians" or "Russia" or "RIS". It has not made a statement regarding that "CIA"-DHS-FBI allegations that "Russia"/"Russians"/"RIS"/Putin's devil-soul were the ones who sent phishing mails to Podesta and DNC, which allowed a hack of their e-mails. Why not? Can you think of anything more important for this agency to report upon -- if it were true?

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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:52 am

Thursday Jack


McCain plans Russia cyber hearing for Thursday
By JEREMY HERB and CONNOR O’BRIEN 12/30/16 10:23 AM EST

Senate Armed Services Chairman John McCain has scheduled a hearing on cyber threats for Thursday, where the issue of Russia's election-year hacking will take center stage, a source familiar with the committee's planning told POLITICO.

Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, National Security Agency and Cyber Command Chief Adm. Mike Rogers and Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence Marcel Lettre are scheduled to testify, according to the source.

The timing of the hearing — three days into the new Congress — is in the same week that President-elect Donald Trump says he plans to be briefed by the intelligence community on the Russian hacking.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/j ... ing-233059



and could someone tell Assange McCain is a republican :)


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange warned it would be a "stupid maneuver" for Democrats to continue to hound President-elect Donald Trump for Russian hacking on various Democratic agencies.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/ ... d-maneuver




but Assange could be a hologram at this point so I guess it really doesn't matter :P


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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:09 am

Donald Trump Plans Revamp of Top U.S. Spy Agency
President-elect works on restructuring Office of the Director of National Intelligence, tweets again his doubts that Russia hacked Democrats

By DAMIAN PALETTA and JULIAN E. BARNES
Updated Jan. 4, 2017 9:48 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON—President-elect Donald Trump, a harsh critic of U.S. intelligence agencies, is working with top advisers on a plan that would restructure and pare back the nation’s top spy agency, people familiar with the planning said.

The move is prompted by his belief that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence has become bloated and politicized, these people said.

The planning comes as Mr. Trump has leveled a series of social-media attacks in recent months and the past few days against U.S. intelligence agencies, dismissing and mocking their assessment that Russia stole emails from Democratic groups and individuals and then provided them to WikiLeaks for publication in an effort to help Mr. Trump win the White House.

One of the people familiar with Mr. Trump’s planning said advisers also are working on a plan to restructure the Central Intelligence Agency, cutting back on staffing at its Virginia headquarters and pushing more people out into field posts around the world. The CIA declined to comment.

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“The view from the Trump team is the intelligence world has become completely politicized,” said the individual, who is close to the Trump transition. “They all need to be slimmed down. The focus will be on restructuring the agencies and how they interact.”

In Twitter posts on Wednesday, Mr. Trump referenced an interview that WikiLeaks editor-in-chief Julian Assange gave to Fox News in which Mr. Assange denied Russia had been his source for the thousands of emails he published that had been stolen from Democratic organizations and Hillary Clinton advisers, including campaign manager John Podesta.
Mr. Trump tweeted: “Julian Assange said ‘a 14 year old could have hacked Podesta’—why was DNC so careless? Also said Russians did not give him the info!”

Mr. Trump has drawn criticism from Democratic and Republican lawmakers and from intelligence and law-enforcement officials for praising Russian President Vladimir Putin, for criticizing U.S. spy agencies, and now for embracing Mr. Assange, long viewed with disdain by government officials and lawmakers.

“We have two choices: some guy living in an embassy on the run from the law…who has a history of undermining American democracy and releasing classified information to put our troops at risk, or the 17 intelligence agencies sworn to defend us,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.). “I’m going with them.”

But for Mr. Trump and some supporters, the accusations that Russia hacked Democrats are seen as an effort to delegitimize his election.

Since the November election, Mr. Trump has published close to 250 Twitter posts. Of those, 11 have focused on Russia or the election-related cyberattacks. In each of those tweets, Mr. Trump either has praised Russian President Vladimir Putin—last month calling him “very smart”—or disparaged the investigation into the hacks.


This stands in contrast with his posts on other issues and countries, such as North Korea or China, where his views on national security risks line up more squarely with U.S. spy agencies.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence was established in 2004 in large part to boost coordination between intelligence agencies following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Lawmakers and intelligence experts in the past have proposed cutting or restructuring the ODNI. The President’s Intelligence Advisory Board, a White House panel, recommended in a classified report in 2010 that the agency be downsized and closely focused, according to the Congressional Research Service. The report didn’t result in legislation. Officials said change has proven difficult in part because its mission centers are focused on core national security issues, such as counterterrorism, nuclear proliferation, and counterintelligence.

“The management and integration that DNI focuses on allows agencies like the CIA to better hone in on its own important work,” said Rep. Adam Schiff (D., Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the House intelligence panel, who believes dismantling the ODNI could lead to national security problems.

Mr. Trump’s advisers say he has long been skeptical of the CIA’s accuracy, and the president-elect often mentions faulty intelligence in 2002 and 2003 concerning Iraq’s weapons programs. But his public skepticism about the Russia assessments has jarred analysts accustomed to more cohesion with the White House.

Top officials at U.S. intelligence agencies, as well as Republican and Democratic leaders in Congress, have said Russia orchestrated the computer attacks on the Democratic Party last year. President Barack Obama ordered the intelligence agencies to produce a report on the hacking operation, and he is expected to be presented with the findings on Thursday.

Russia has long denied any involvement in the hacking operation, though Mr. Putin has said releasing the stolen emails was a public service.

The heads of the CIA, Federal Bureau of Investigation and DNI James Clapper are scheduled to brief Mr. Trump on the findings on Friday. Mr. Trump tweeted late Tuesday that this meeting had been delayed and suggested that the agencies still needed time to “build a case” against Russia. White House officials said Mr. Trump will be briefed on the hacking report as soon as it is ready.

Among those helping lead Mr. Trump’s plan to revamp the intelligence agencies is his national security adviser, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who had served as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency until he was pushed out by Mr. Clapper and others in 2014. Also involved in the planning is Rep. Mike Pompeo (R., Kan.), whom Mr. Trump selected as CIA director.

Gen. Flynn didn’t respond to a request for comment on Wednesday, and Mr. Pompeo declined to comment.

Gen. Flynn and Mr. Pompeo share Mr. Trump’s view that the intelligence community’s position—that Russia tried to help his campaign—is an attempt to undermine his victory or say he didn’t win, the official close to the transition said.

Gen. Flynn will lead the White House’s National Security Council, giving him broad influence in military and intelligence decisions throughout the government. He is also a believer in rotating senior intelligence agencies into the field and reducing headquarters staff.

The lobby of the CIA Headquarters Building in Langley, Va. Donald Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies’ assessments of Russian involvement in cyberattacks has some lawmakers questioning his goals.
The lobby of the CIA Headquarters Building in Langley, Va. Donald Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies’ assessments of Russian involvement in cyberattacks has some lawmakers questioning his goals. PHOTO: LARRY DOWNING/REUTERS
Current and former intelligence and law enforcement officials have reacted with a mix of bafflement and outrage to Mr. Trump’s continuing series of jabs at U.S. spies.

“They are furious about it,” said one former senior intelligence official, adding that a retinue of senior officials who thought they would be staying on in a Hillary Clinton administration now are re-evaluating their plans following Mr. Trump’s election.

Current and former officials said it was particularly striking to see Mr. Trump quote Mr. Assange in tweets.

“It’s pretty horrifying to me that he’s siding with Assange over the intelligence agencies,” one former law-enforcement official said.

Paul Pillar, a 28-year veteran of the CIA who retired in 2005, said he was disturbed by Mr. Trump’s tweets and feared much of the intelligence community’s assessments could be filtered through Gen. Flynn.

“I’m rather pessimistic,” he said. “This is indeed disturbing that the president should come in with this negative view of the agencies, coupled with his habits on how he absorbs information and so on that don’t provide a lot of hope for change.”
http://www.wsj.com/articles/lawmakers-o ... 1483554450



Report: Trump plans to shrink top intelligence agencies, including CIA

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ov ... dni-2017-1


Trump Reportedly Now Wants to Cut Back the CIA Because He Thinks Intelligence Is Too Politicized

Donald Trump, who famously does not use email or speak a foreign language or apparently travel much outside the Trump-themed hotel circuit, has some ideas. This should end well.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... cized.html



Trump Sells America Out To Putin With Plan To Cut The CIA
By Jason Easley on Wed, Jan 4th, 2017 at 6:51 pm
President-elect Trump is planning on cutting the nation's intelligence agencies in another move that is a direct sellout designed to empower Russia and Putin.




don't forget the CIA did NOT create the Niger Forgeries
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Re: US Punishes Russia for Election Hacking Ejecting Operati

Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:32 am

U.S. obtained evidence after election that Russia leaked emails: officials

The headquarters of the Democratic National Committee is seen in Washington, U.S. June 14, 2016. REUTERS/Gary Cameron

By Arshad Mohammed and Jonathan Landay | WASHINGTON
U.S. intelligence agencies obtained what they considered to be conclusive evidence after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

U.S. officials had concluded months earlier that Russian intelligence agencies had directed the hacking, but
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-r ... SKBN14P04P had been less certain that they could prove Russia also had controlled the release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

The timing of the additional intelligence is important because U.S. President Barack Obama has faced criticism from his own party over why it took his administration months to respond to the cyber attack. U.S. Senate and House leaders, including prominent Republicans, have also called for an inquiry.

At the same time, President-elect Donald Trump has questioned the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia tried to help his candidacy and hurt Clinton's. Russia has denied the hacking allegations.

A U.S. intelligence report on the hacking was scheduled to be presented to Obama on Thursday and to Trump on Friday, though its contents were still under discussion on Wednesday, officials said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-r ... SKBN14P04P



Hearing starts at 9:30am
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Postby kool maudit » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:36 am

Protect the CIA!

(reads Rigourous Intuition in 2017... truth is stranger etc)
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Postby seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:39 am

Are you accusing me of wanting to protect the CIA?

If so.......

Wy are you spreading lies about what I am posting?

What is your motivation?



NO

protect the TRUTH

the CIA did NOT create yellowcake

TRUMP'S GUY - Gen. Flynn's good buddy DID - MICHAEL LEDEEN


with his good buddies

(Dewey Clarridge, Ahmed Chalabi and Francis Brookes) planned at December 2001 gathering in Rome involving Ledeen and SISMI chief Nicolò Pollari. Also in attendance at that meeting: Larry Franklin, Harold Rhode, Manucher Ghorbanifar, Antonio Martino and others including a former senior official of the Revolutionary Guard in Iran.

Pollari ....SISMI..... Niger Yellowcake REJECTED by the CIA in 2001 and 2002

THAT IS THE TRUTH


why do you have a problem with the truth kool maudit?
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Postby kool maudit » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:11 am

I don't know, seemslikeadream. Maybe the US election drove me mad or something similar happened but in a different direction. What a strange year was 2016!
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