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by 82_28 » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:03 pm
by Elvis » Sun Feb 05, 2017 6:29 pm
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by SonicG » Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:23 pm
“You got a lot of killers,” Trump shot back. “What, you think our country’s so innocent?”
After O’Reilly said he did not “know of any government leaders that are killers”, Trump suddenly turned to the Iraq war, seeming to equate George W Bush with Putin, though he did not name the former president.
“Take a look at what we’ve done too. We’ve made a lot of mistakes,” he said, adding, falsely, that he that he opposed invasion. “I’ve been against the war in Iraq from the beginning.”
“A lot of mistakes,” Trump continued, “OK, but a lot of people were killed. So a lot of killers around, believe me.
by seemslikeadream » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:47 am
1. SIGNING BLIND
4 hours ago
Report: Trump Not Briefed on Order That Gave Bannon NatSec Seat
REUTERS/JONATHAN ERNST
President Donald Trump complained that he was not fully briefed before signing an executive order that gave chief political strategist Stephen Bannon a seat on the National Security Council, the New York Times reports. The executive order, which gave Bannon an unprecedented security role for a non-military advisor, was reportedly one of a series of orders crafted by Bannon and policy director Stephen Miller. Trump reportedly signed the order without fully understanding the power it would grant Bannon, and grew angry when he later learned the order's full significance. Other White House staff, including Chief of Staff Reince Priebus have also reportedly expressed concern over what they viewed as a lack of checks on Bannon's and Miller's powers. Priebus has since drafted a 10-part checklist of steps and approvals an executive order must receive before it is signed into action, the Times reports. Bannon, the former head of alt-right website Breitbart, has been credited with some of the Trump administration's most controversial moves, and reportedly told allies that he had a narrow time slot in which to push his own agenda in the White House before other advisors put a check on his influence
The Trump administration has sprung a leak. Many of them, in fact.
By Paul Farhi February 5 at 4:56 PM
Every presidential administration leaks. So far, the Trump White House has gushed.
Unauthorized transcripts of phone conversations between President Trump and the leaders of Mexico and Australia went public last week. So did details about the administration’s stage-managing of Trump’s Supreme Court pick. Drafts of executive orders, including one that would grant legal protection to people and businesses that discriminate against same-sex married couples on moral or religious grounds, also slipped out before they were ready for prime time.
The leaks have been a bonanza for news organizations, particularly mainstream outlets such as the New York Times, The Washington Post, NBC and the Associated Press. The pattern of leaks to these organizations suggests the leakers are seeking not just wide distribution of confidential information but are hoping to gain the credibility conveyed by establishment news organizations — the very news outlets that Trump has frequently derided as purveyors of “fake news.”
They also suggest the extent of rivalries and some possible misgivings within Trump’s inner circle about policies and would-be policies. Leaks, after all, are often designed to isolate a rival or to whip up public pressure to derail a decision.
The Post was first to report on Trump’s conversation with Australian prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, in which Trump blasted a refugee resettlement agreement and bragged about his election victory before abruptly ending the call.
Trump on Australia call: 'We have to be treated fairly' Play Video1:32
During a meeting with steelworkers, President Trump addressed his Feb. 1 call with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, on Feb. 2 at the White House. (The Washington Post)
The Times broke the news that the administration was preparing an order permitting the CIA to reopen secret “black site” prisons in which terrorist suspects were once tortured. The newspaper also described the White House’s attempt to set up a reality show-like competition to gin up the suspense about Trump’s Supreme Court appointment.
AP was first with a story that Trump, in a call with Mexican president Enrique Peña Nieto, had threatened to send U.S. troops to Mexico to stop “bad hombres down there.”
Smaller news outlets have tapped into the leaky pipeline, too. The Nation magazine, primarily known for its liberal commentary, reported last week that the White House was circulating the draft of an executive order that would permit “sweeping” discrimination against gay and transgender people based on religious or moral objections; the Nation even reproduced a copy of the leaked draft document.
The breadth of the leaks has surprised — and, of course, delighted — journalists, who say it gives the public an unfiltered view of what those in power are thinking and doing. The leaks of Trump’s calls to Turnbull and Peña Nieto may have been the most surprising of all; it’s rare for transcripts of presidential phone calls or details of meetings with foreign leaders, especially potentially embarrassing exchanges, to leak so soon afterward.
“Given Trump’s erratic nature and lack of experience, especially in foreign affairs, these leaks may be more important than ever,” says David Corn, a reporter with the muckraking Mother Jones magazine. “They give us a sense of how he’s doing his job” and what important advisers such as Stephen K. Bannon and Jared Kushner are telling him to do.
Other reporters say the leaks reflect a certain degree of chaos within the new administration, with factions warily circling one another. At the top of the organization is an executive who has himself flouted White House norms, which may be setting a certain tone. “I tend to think chaos begets chaos begets chaos, and that’s what we’re seeing here,” said a reporter familiar with some of the senior players.
But others see the leaks as whistleblowing — an effort to expose Trump’s initiatives before they become policy.
The draft executive order expanding religious objections to gay and transgender people was probably leaked because the leaker was alarmed that such a policy might be enacted, said Sarah Posner, who broke the story for the Nation. She notes that there was no leak of Trump’s most controversial order to date, a ban on travel and immigration from seven Muslim-majority countries, and the secrecy caused disruption and controversy. “I think [the proposed religious order] was very concerning to a lot of people inside and outside of government,” she said.
If so, mission accomplished. Trump hasn’t signed the religious-objection order, and the White House hasn’t indicated when or if he will. Similarly, the administration appears to have pulled back its plans to revive the “black site” prisons after the Times disclosure of it incited pushback from Congress and Cabinet officials.
Of course, the leaks could also be trial balloons launched by the administration.
Neither Trump nor his top officials have challenged the veracity of any of the major leaks. A few weeks before taking office, however, Trump demanded an investigation into who leaked to NBC News a top-secret report about Russian hacking of Democratic officials during the campaign.
This record suggests that mainstream news organizations are getting a reliable flow of unauthorized information. But reporters say such information needs to undergo the journalistic equivalent of extreme vetting.
“Careful news organizations don’t just throw unverified leaks into the world,” said David Sanger, a veteran White House and national security reporter for the New York Times. “Reporters want to understand the motives [of the leaker] and the context of what’s leaked so that you’re not just simply becoming the handmaiden to someone’s private agenda. You have to dig into it and ask questions about it, starting with, ‘Why am I seeing this?’ ”
Given Trump’s management style and the competing “power centers” within his administration, “I don’t see [leaks] simmering down anytime soon,” said Corn. “It’s going to be a continuing problem for him and his administration. But it’s going to be good for the public. And it’s going to be very good for journalists.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyl ... a8f9d8809d
Is Donald Trump A Good President? He Sits In His Bathrobe And Watches Television Instead Of Working, Aides Claim
BY CRISTINA SILVA @CRISTYMSILVA ON 02/05/17 AT 9:48 PM
Trump's travel ban sparks global protests
President Donald Trump stops working at 6:30 p.m. and then spends his evenings alone sending tweets out into the social media universe, watching television in his bathrobe or walking around the White House, trying to learn the interiors of his new home. The New York Times published a revealing portrayal of Trump's first days as president Sunday night that did not cast the new administration in a flattering light.
"Aides confer in the dark because they cannot figure out how to operate the light switches in the cabinet room. Visitors conclude their meetings and then wander around, testing doorknobs until finding one that leads to an exit. In a darkened, mostly empty West Wing, Mr. Trump’s provocative chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, finishes another 16-hour day planning new lines of attack," the article began.
In his first two weeks in office Trump has insulted world leaders, dismissed the nation's system of checks and balances and carried out a handful of his most controversial campaign promises, including a travel ban against seven Muslim-majority nations and initiating the process of building a border wall. Trump is working from the White House with only a small inner circle by his side, with his wife, Melania, and his youngest son, Barron, opting to stay living in the family penthouse in New York City. At times, his unusual style has prompted critics to question who really is in charge of the new administration. Polls show Trump has the lowest approval rating of any first-term president in modern history.
“We are moving big and we are moving fast,” Bannon told the New York Times. “We didn’t come here to do small things.”
After losing the popular vote but winning the election in a contentious election, Trump entered the White House with little support. Just 34 percent of Americans said he would be a good or very good president while 36 percent said he would be a poor president ahead of Inauguration Day. In contrast, 63 percent of Americans thought former President Barack Obama would make a good or very good president after he won in 2008.
Chris Ruddy, the chief executive of Newsmax Media and an old friend of the president’s, told the New York Times: “I think, in his mind, the success of this is going to be the poll numbers. If they continue to be weak or go lower, then somebody’s going to have to bear some responsibility for that.”
To be fair, Obama also quit his work day at 6:30 p.m. but then he started up again after dinner. "I'm a night owl. My usual day: I work out in the morning; I get to the office around 8:30 a.m. to 9 a.m.; work till about 6:30 p.m.; have dinner with the family, hang out with the kids and put them to bed about 8:30 p.m. And then I'll probably read briefing papers or do paperwork or write stuff until about 11:30 p.m. and then I usually have about a half hour to read before I go to bed . . . about midnight, 12:30 a.m. -- sometimes a little later," he once said.
http://www.ibtimes.com/donald-trump-goo ... ng-2486791
by seemslikeadream » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:06 am
In filing, 97 tech companies oppose Trump's immigration ban
Elizabeth Weise , USATODAY Published 1:17 a.m. ET Feb. 6, 2017 | Updated 60 minutes ago
President Donald Trump says those against his travel ban are putting the country in danger. About 100 technology giants, including Microsoft , Google , Facebook and Apple , have signed onto a legal action against the ban. Newslook
SAN FRANCISCO — Expressing their discontent over President Trump's executive order on immigration, 97 tech companies — including giants Apple, Google, Microsoft and Facebook — filed a joint court brief Sunday opposing the new rules.
The amicus brief, filed Sunday evening in the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco, lauded the drive and creativity of USA's immigrants and said that while protecting the nation through increased background checks was important, maintaining America's fundamental commitment to welcoming immigrants was also critical.
"The beneficiaries are not just the new immigrants who chose to come to our shores, but American businesses, workers, and consumers, who gain immense advantages from immigrants’ infusion of talents, energy, and opportunity," the case states.
Cited in the brief as among the immigrants who have brought new discoveries and innovation to the U.S. are Nikola Tesla (alternating current electricity), Isidore Rabi (nuclear magnetic resonance), Giuliana Tesoro (flame-retardant fiber), James Naismith (basketball), Levi Strauss (blue jeans) and Charles Feltman (the hot dog).
"The experience and energy of people who come to our country to seek a better life for themselves and their children — to pursue the 'American Dream' — are woven throughout the social, political, and economic fabric of the Nation," it states.
The brief represented a rare moment of unity in an industry that can be fractious and rarely speaks with one voice.
Airbnb aims #WeAccept Super Bowl ad at refugees, immigrants
The list of companies that signed include some of the most powerful in the tech world. Besides Apple, Facebook, Google and Microsoft, other companies taking part were Airbnb, Box, Dropbox, Etsy, Github, Glassdoor, Kickstarter, LinkedIn, Medium, Mozilla, Pinterest, Reddit, Salesforce, Square, Twilo, Yelp and Zynga.
The brief is in support of a lawsuit filed in federal court last Monday by Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson. It asked that key provisions of the executive order be declared unconstitutional. Tech firms have complained that Trump's order has created havoc in an industry that is global and has a large number of foreign-born engineers in others working in the U.S. and abroad.
President Donald Trump used his preferred platform to criticize the judge who blocked his administration's travel ban on immigrants. Video provided by Newsy Newslook
"The Order effects a sudden shift in the rules governing entry into the United States, and is inflicting substantial harm on U.S. companies," the brief states. "It hinders the ability of American companies to attract great talent; increases costs imposed on business; makes it more difficult for American firms to compete in the international marketplace; and gives global enterprises a new, significant incentive to build operations—and hire new employees—outside the United States."
In the filing, the companies note that immigrants or their children founded more than 200 of the Fortune 500 -- companies that include Apple, Kraft, Ford, General Electric, AT&T, Google, McDonald’s, Boeing, and Disney. Immigrants also make up 28% of Main Street business owners -- and 18% of business owners nationwide -- as well as 16% of the U.S. labor force, they say. "Immigrants do not take jobs away from U.S. citizens—they create them," the filing states.
Senior Judge James Robart of U.S. District Court in Seattle on Friday issued a nationwide restraining order temporarily blocking the travel ban put in place by President Trump last week, allowing refugees and visa holders from seven Muslim-majority nations to gain entry to the U.S..
On Sunday, an appeals court declined to reinstate the restrictions.
Meet James Robart, the judge who halted Trump’s immigration ban
A large group of lawyers from tech companies met last Tuesday to discuss possible actions they might collectively take to fight the executive order. The amicus brief appears to be the fruit of that meeting.
There was no immediate response from the administration. On Saturday, President Trump tweeted, "I have instructed Homeland Security to check people coming into our country VERY CAREFULLY. The courts are making the job very difficult!"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news ... /97538208/
by Luther Blissett » Mon Feb 06, 2017 11:11 am
Elvis » Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:29 pm wrote:82_28 wrote:
That shit needs to be stopped at the border.
Other countries The Trumps have taken advantage of the US for long enough.
by Freitag » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:25 pm
Trump ignites political fight over U.S. banking law reforms
By Sarah N. Lynch and Lisa Lambert | WASHINGTON
U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday ordered reviews of major banking rules that were put in place after the 2008 financial crisis, drawing fire from Democrats who said his order lacked substance and squarely aligned him with Wall Street bankers.
Though the order was short on specifics, financial markets embraced Trump's signal that looser banking regulation is coming and pushed bank stocks higher. The Dow Jones U.S. Banks stocks index closed up 2.6 percent. .DJUSBK [.N]
At a White House forum on Friday with U.S. business leaders, including JPMorgan Chase's (JPM.N) CEO Jamie Dimon, Trump said his administration expects "to be cutting a lot out of Dodd-Frank."
That will involve a lot more than issuing an order, said former Democratic congressman Barney Frank, co-author of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform law that raised capital requirements for banks, restricted their trading by means of the "Volcker Rule," and created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to guard against predatory lending.
Trump "can’t make any substantial change in the financial reform bill without Congress,” Frank told Reuters. "The language in the order doesn’t do anything. It tells the secretary of the Treasury to give them something to read. The tone of it is to weaken the bill.”
Trump and other critics of the Dodd-Frank law say its regulations have hindered lending. At the meeting with CEO's on Friday Trump said, "I have so many people, friends of mine, that have nice businesses that can’t borrow money...because the banks just won’t let them borrow because of the rules and regulations in Dodd-Frank."
Despite such criticisms, recent data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis showed U.S. commercial-bank lending at a 70-year high, climbing steadily since late-2010.
Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren who lobbied for the creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau accused Trump of forsaking middle and lower-income individuals to help banks.
"The Wall Street bankers and lobbyists whose greed and recklessness nearly destroyed this country may be toasting each other with champagne, but the American people have not forgotten the 2008 financial crisis - and they will not forget what happened today,” she said in a statement.
Trump's adviser leading the deregulation effort, National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, was previously a top official at Goldman Sachs (GS.N). Billionaire investor Carl Icahn, meanwhile, is counseling Trump on regulation across the government.
One order signed by Trump requires the U.S. Treasury Secretary to submit possible regulatory changes and legislation modifying Dodd-Frank in 120 days, according to a White House official.
Trump's pick for Treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin, also a former Goldman banker, has yet to be confirmed by the full Senate.
Meanwhile, a memo tells the Labor Department to review a "fiduciary rule" for brokers offering retirement advice that was finalized in 2016. While early reports said Trump wanted to push off the rule's implementation, originally slated for April, by 180 days, the order did not mention any delay. The Labor Department late on Friday said it was considering legal options for delaying.
Representatives of the six largest U.S. banks – JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N), Bank of America Corp (BAC.N), Citigroup Inc (C.N), Wells Fargo & Co (WFC.N), Goldman Sachs Group Inc (GS.N) and Morgan Stanley (MS.N) – either declined to comment or did not have an immediate comment.
by seemslikeadream » Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:31 pm
Conway used 'Bowling Green massacre' days before MSNBC interview
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... -interview
Vann R. Newkirk II @fivefifths
Wearing my Bowling Green pin to work today
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Cyrus McQueen @CyrusMMcQueen
When Trump mentions millions voted fraudulently in the election, remind him millions also died fraudulently in the Bowling Green Massacre...
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by 82_28 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:07 pm
by seemslikeadream » Mon Feb 06, 2017 3:49 pm
Donald Trump BANNED from giving historic address in British Parliament's grandest hall
The Speaker vowed to block an address in the 11th Century Westminster Hall as he slammed the President's "racism and sexism"
BYDAN BLOOM
17:14, 6 FEB 2017UPDATED19:09, 6 FEB 2017
Video thumbnail, Donald Trump BANNED from speaking in Parliament's oldest and most prestigious hall
DONALD TRUMP BANNED FROM SPEAKING IN PARLIAMENT
Donald Trump is set to be banned from giving a historic address in the British Parliament's grandest and most prestigious hall.
The House of Commons Speaker today announced he did not want to give the US President permission to speak in the 11th Century Westminster Hall when he makes a state visit later this year.
John Bercow slammed Trump for "racism and sexism", his undermining of judges and his migrant ban.
He added that although he does not have as much say over a speech in the glittering Royal Gallery in the House of Lords, "I would not wish to issue an invitation".
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn tweeted: "Well said John Bercow. We must stand up for our country's values. Trump's State Visit should not go ahead."
Women MPs vow to boycott Donald Trump's speech if he addresses Parliament
It comes after 163 MPs signed an internal petition demanding Trump be refused the honour due to his migrant ban and comments on torture and women.
The Speaker said he would not give Trump permission to speak in Westminster Hall (Photo: REUTERS)
Barack Obama addressing both Houses of Parliament in Westminster Hall in 2011 (Photo: PA)
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As the oldest part of Parliament, Westminster Hall is where Kings and Queens have lain in state for centuries.
It is where ex-President Barack Obama addressed both houses of Parliament in 2011 and is a venue previously used by Nelson Mandela.
Speaker Bercow said he is one of three "keyholders" that would agree to any address in the historic hall. The other two are the Lord Speaker and Lord Great Chamberlain.
Today he told MPs a Westminster Hall address "is not an automatic right - it is an earned honour."
He added: "Ordinarily we are able to work by consensus that the hall would be able to be used for an address by agreement of the the three keyholders.
"Before the imposition of the migrant ban I would myself have been strongly opposed to an address by President Trump to Westminster Hall.
A Westminster Hall address "is not an automatic right", the speaker said
"Our opposition to racism and to sexism are hugely important considerations", he said
"After the imposition of the migrant ban by President Trump I am even more strongly opposed to an address by President Trump to Westminster Hall."
There was cheering and applause by MPs as he made the announcement in the parliamentary chamber.
It is a blow to Prime Minister Theresa May, who helped make the earlier-than-usual offer of a full state visit and has cosied up to Trump's White House in hope of a UK-US trade deal.
Nearly 2million people signed a petition to prevent the state visit and no plans for a Parliamentary address had yet been drawn up.
A Downing Street spokesman said: "We look forward to welcoming the President to the UK later this year. The dates and arrangements for the state visit will be worked out in due course.”
The Speaker added: "We value our relationship with the United States. If a state visit takes place, that is way beyond and above the pay grade of the Speaker.
"However, as far as this place is concerned I feel very strongly that our opposition to racism and to sexism and our support for equality before the law and an independent judiciary are hugely important considerations in the House of Commons."
Tony Blair, Nelson Mandela and Bill Clinton in Westminster Hall in 2003 (Photo: Press Association)
The Speaker said he also didn't want Trump in the glittering and golden Royal Gallery (Photo: Getty)
After his announcement, veteran anti-establishment Labour MP Dennis Skinner bellowed: "Two words - well done".
Labour MP Stephen Doughty, who started the 'Early Day Motion' signed by 163 MPs, said after the Speaker's comments: "Our Parliament stands for liberty, equality and independence from government. We choose who we honour.
"After Trump's comments and actions on women, torture, refugees and the judiciary - he does not deserve to be honoured in the place where Mandela spoke and Churchill lay at rest.
"It is vital we stand up for those principles not only here but across the world. Mr Speaker has made that crystal clear today."
Stephen Doughty said: "He does not deserve to be honoured where Mandela spoke"
Labour veteran Dennis Skinner declared: "Two words - well done!"
Former Deputy Labour leader Harriet Harman, who had vowed to boycott any speech, said: "Speaker Bercow just cancelled Trump visit to parliament. A proud moment for Commons. Racism and sexism not welcome here."
Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron said: "This is the right decision by the Speaker. The Prime Minister might wish to kowtow to the nasty misogynist that now sits in the Oval Office but no-one else does. We do not want him to speak to us. He is not welcome.
"Trump should be under no illusion. We are snubbing him."
Mr Bercow also opposed Mr Trump speaking in the House of Lords' Royal Gallery - despite raising no objections when Chinese President Xi Jinping did just that in 2015.
China's President, Xi Jinping addresses MPs and peers in Parliament's Royal Gallery
The Speaker did not object when China's President addressed the Royal Gallery in 2015 (Photo: Getty Images Europe)
He said: "So far as the Royal Gallery is concerned, and again I operate on advice, I do not perhaps have as strong a say in that matter.
"It is in a different part of the building although customarily an invitation to a visiting leader to deliver an address there would be issued in the names of the two speakers.
"I would not wish to issue an invitation to President Trump to speak in the Royal Gallery."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/do ... ic-9768931
by seemslikeadream » Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:26 pm
trumpty dumbty too much for the torture guy‘Torture Memos’ Author, Former DOJ Attorney John Yoo, Says Trump Has Gone Too Far
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tor ... mp-n717346
by RocketMan » Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:48 am
by seemslikeadream » Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:41 pm
WATCH LIVE: Trump official to be grilled over Trump immigration order
http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... tion-order
How to listen to the livestream of the hearing on Trump’s travel ban today
Federal judges will hear arguments today over whether to restore Trump’s immigration and refugee executive order.
http://www.recode.net/2017/2/7/14529970 ... livestream
by Karmamatterz » Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:43 pm
As a matter of fact, I think these all might be photoshopped.
by Blue » Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:29 pm
RocketMan wrote:Has this been hashed out here yet? Wow...
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